What is 5G and why is it dangerous?

5G means Generation Five

So it is basically meaningless

Its purpose is to deliver more bandthwith than 4.5

It only sucks because it also uses part of the WiFi spectrum. LEAVE MY WIFI CHANNELS ALONE
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

MIND CONTROL RAYS

Fuck off with buzzwords you stupid cunt

Suck my tailpipe kangaroo.

All that said, 5G sounds ridiculously complicated and I bet it is going to be plagued by technical problems for some time. It might even flop completely, I wouldn't be surprised.

mwrf.com/blog/5-things-you-should-know-about-5g-cellular

2.5G was already ridiculously complicated

5G is nothing, compared to 2.5G

They use the same Modulation methods, but only with much more frequency ranges to play with

G4 is known to cause all kinds of ailments and diseases - strokes, cancer, dementia, all kinds of neurological problems. The fear of G5 is understood in that it causes even worse diseases and health problems. It is also known that in the Telecom bill of 1996, wifi regulations are completely free of any health insurance standards. They can roll out this RF pollution without any studies of the risks involved.

And larger QAM constellations, thanks to better RF TX/RX manufacturing processes

but for what purpose? Are These those poles that get built in every town?

INTERNET OF THINGS
they're laying the lines for the coming era of augmented reality
basically we're faggots and deserve everything we've got coming

Yes. And closer together too. A higher density of utra high RF emitters.

so this are the mexican intellectuals everybody talks about

cool

You guys are idiots

Anything beyond 2.5G is the same plain old shit

The only thing I can concerned with 5G is that it uses the same RF spectrum as Normal WiFi

You guys are just some dumb patethic larpers

>The only thing I can concerned with 5G is that it uses the same RF spectrum as Normal WiF
Standard wifi uses a spectrum within the bounds of 1 to 4 GHz. G5 is 24 to 90 GHz.

its a fucking sonar for scanning inside of buildings. They will literaly know what is inside of your property - remotely. So you loose all privacy basically

Nice to see a Mexican using a meme flag

Jajajaja, no mames, que pinche loser

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5G will be exponentially more powerful, higher frequency, closer proximity and they'll be on every street corner, if we dont stop it coming in we're literally all dead
it's already been proven to increase cancer rates even in early studies

when is musk giving us free internets

Visible light is also part of the RF spectrum. Yet we dont get cancer by it.

Stop pretending to be idiots

>harmonics
>lower than the intended frequency
Die in a fire, you dumb fucking normie.

memeflag bitch gtfo lol mexicans are godtier in telecommunications, Carlos slim topped the charts for worlds richest 4 years straight from 2010 to 2014 , currently 7th place

can you avoid it by moving out of City into a village?

>even further out of range from normal people and small businesses
woot, more monopoly shit producing stupid high frequency radios
and i thought 200MHz was high

You could avoid it by building a faraday cage

Take the concept from a Microwave box. It does not allows microwave radiation to escape it.

praise QAM

you mean in 50 years when they got a Problem with you they create a pack of Virtual pitbulls or zombies who hunt you so you will run on the main street and get overrun by a car or something?

>hurr i'm a dumb slavnigger and i don't know anytingz about radio communications

I thought the same thing, but sounds like propagation has been surprisingly good in trials that have been done. Technologies like beam forming can make up for a lot of shortcomings of the spectrum. For example can have an antenna with say 256 individual antenna elements all at slightly different angles to take advantage of multipath, which increases the chance of at least one of the paths will reach the user equipment in non line-of-sight situations (for example, one beam may be reflected/blocked completely, one may be passing through foliage or another moderate attenuator, one may have to bounce off 3 solid surfaces, one may only have to bounce off a single surface, etc.).

It's still going to require a pretty dense infrastructure, though.

>faraday cage
i want one, i can't make my hobo radio transmitters without constant interference from le 88-104MHz FM trash

fucking hell, use shortwave you niggers

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Why shill for ("such minor differences")?
If it wasnt bad why support it in online forums?

Well, I think you could build one using just plaik wood and thin vermin mesh

The vermin mesh must be metallic, and depending on the hole size, is the frequencies you can block.

Metal sheets block everything. Large hole vermin mesh (chicken wire) block only low frequencies.

thats it, i am getting this for christmas, ill be known as the cageboy

i dont think it can block out such specific range, but idk, ask the mexicans

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>hobo shack made from sheet metal
i'm already bitched out by the local government more often than i'd like to be, so i decline building an "UNAUTHORIZED STRUCTURE" on my own property that i bought, i maintain and i watch.

Nowhere near enough bandwidth.

>5g is dangerous youtube/MSM says
>5g is x youtube/MSM says
5g is X the jews say
Well, no. It's the same as any other radio signal, its creating competition for jews, which in term, cause these stupid fads of "its bad for you goy"
In reality, its getting them off their ass and forcing them to provide us with better connectivity
Already Verizon and such are having to re-open unlimited plans, just to compete until upgrades are bought/placed.

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>we need 25000 channels
how about no

you don't need to build a faraday cage if you want to protect something from EM radiation. you can simply create a gaussian surface by wrapping any thin film of metal over whatever it is you want to insulate. just make sure the layer of metal is continuous.

>same as any other radio signal
no
look up "terahertz wave DNA damage"
thats one thing i worry about with the constant push upwards in frequency

>tinfoil igloo
seems legit

>metal sheets

ahh I get it now, so this guys are geniuses actually protecting their 50" screen tvs from a carington event building their sheds with metal sheets

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For data rates of 1Gbps you do. Verizon's 5G uses like 800MHz of spectrum in the 28GHz band.

While it is technically true that you will get shorter bandthwidth, the reality is that we dont depend that much on "bandwidth" as we used to do.

Because we send symbols, we can rely on modern modulation schemes such as higher QAM constellations.

Take the example from Television.

We used to use a y Mhz signal, and NTSC encoding back in the days.

Now we use ATSC signal, the same 6 Mhz channel width, but we can encode more than one channel on that 6 Mhz portion, and with a much better picture resolution than we used to.

it works though

>y Mhz
6 Mhz

>128MB/s for a fucking phone
nigger, my broadband is like 2MB/s down. what kind of normie phone user needs that much bandwidth for anything other than 16k EHD video that isn't even noticable on their tiny screens.

please explain

Here is a link for all the faggots yelling "SCHIZO!"

journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0105225

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>journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0105225
>brain implants
>chemical injections
>nothing about 5g
bait

5G is a buzzword. The technology itself is unfeasible and requires mini-towers and receivers to be installed intermediately rather than large towers spaced over areas.
Effectively what Comcast does to allow its "free wifi" by turning their customer's router into a hotspot, but with 5G they're trying to gain the right to install these mini-towers on property that they don't own.

I'm already tired of having to edit my fucking wireless channels every once in a while cause there's too many fucking retards with Comcast routers blasting signals.

Regardless of the irrelevant technical aspects of 5G, the point is so telecom companies can avoid having to maintain/install lanlines and pay for utility poll licensing.
There really is no point for 5G existing. They could just as easily install wifi routers on telephone poles, but the point is to loophole around having to acquire license from the state to use utility polls.

Technically, telecom companies don't have any right to blast their cellular signals onto or through your property. Its kind of an unspoken agreement that they are, so long as they abide to FCC jurisdiction.

I enjoy Jow Forums but sometimes the bullshit gets too much and I have to speak out. The demographics & race realism stuff is great, but lately I've been seeing antivax, flat earth, cell phone cancer, etc.

I thought Jow Forums used to be good at filtering out the cranks but perhaps that's just not the case anymore. Easy territory for shills and slide threads...

There's a limit, higher order modulation schemes also require better signal to noise levels. Sure technology and signal processing improves over time, but only so much. 256 QAM on the forward link is one of the improvements of newer 4G LTE Advanced standards. But this in theory only provides a 33% improvement in data rates over 64 QAM, and is generally only achievable within line of site of the tower and pretty ideal RF. It's not a panacea.

Increasing bandwidth is the easiest way to increase throughput. But also usually a pretty expensive way too since it's a limited resource fetching tens of billions of dollars at government auctions. But new technology is opening up high frequency mmWave bands that weren't feasible before.

I'm curious, how big do QAM constellations get these days, in real commercial applications (not just lab tests)?

k, here's some more.

onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1046/j.1365-2869.2002.00314.x

If you actualy googled that and not clicked on dqilymail or some other shitty blog you'd know you were full of bullshit. But then again you are burger so you probably think every fox news article is word from god while smoking weed for muh health. Try looking in ACTAUAL scientific journals like nature thatvhave peer review and some content control? Yes yes i know thats too much for your rather limited stoners brain.

Short wave is from 2 Mhz to 30 Mhz

ATSC is able to reach 20Mbits on a 6 Mhz channel

>SSTV to transmit plebtube video frames
comfy 1955 style

That's one horrible nail

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Best way to explain it, some frequencies effect other frequencies. For example tuning ur radio to where u can pick up radio station faintly even though ur not tuned to the radio stations frequency. Ur tuned into a harmonic of the stations frequency instead, there is much less fidelity.

For example if ur radio station is 103Khz, a harmonic would be 206Khz, and 309Khz, and so on. So u could listen in at lower quality at those frequencies also.

Essentially the lower frequency amplifies the higher frequency because they overlap in a resonance kinda way.

at-least that's my best guess anyway, i'm not sure if this is any bad thing via 5G though, because i don't think a higher frequency can resonate a lower frequency.. not sure though..

A reason for why these 5G towers are bad though is because the more EMF we put into the world the more we essentially microwave cook the planet.

>cell phones aren't a cancer risk
Nice try.

>20Mbits on a 6 Mhz channel

Not nearly enough for modern data networks, though. Wireless providers may have 60MHz or more of spectrum deployed in urban areas to keep up, and customer demand is only increasing. And keeping in mind this is only for their customers and not their competitors, so in actuality you may need hundreds of MHz of spectrum between them all to support all the wireless users in that city.

>Educate me
Lrn2learn fgt pls

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I like to see it this way

Radio is just invisible light

Light by itself does not kill you

But if you had a 500 Gigawatt light in your face, you would be dead

I think Watts are more relevant than frequency

Our central nervous systems and the electrical current going through our brains could also be influenced if people who controlled transmitters all over the world suddenly found golden frequencies that can interfere with our functioning. Just a thought.

Harmoncs are positive integer mu,tiple of fundamental frequency of wave. A is 440hz but when ypou press A key on piano it doesnt generate pure 440hz it generates haemonic sequence od 440 540 640 etc...

Non ionizing radiaton such as radio waves doesnt penetrate deep enough to affect brains, worst that can happen is some localized heating if you are exposed to focused source. (Like putting your hand on slightly hot piece of anything)

Frequency can also damage. Everything has to be moderated. Too much of anything is bad.
Add that there are other lifeforms on this planet capable of hearing and being harmed by things humans can't see, hear, or even feel.

As someone already posted, there are zero health regulation in place for broadband utilities. Its all subjective.

>tuned into a harmonic
go die in a fire
radio channels can bleed into other channels even if there are ZERO hardonics.

Yh that's a good way of looking at it lol, but some frequencies are much more dangerous than others, also we're essentially just building more and more of these microwave towers every day lol. The universe is balance, if we take things to the extreme the scales suffer at the other end and we'll suffer because of it, we'll start to heat up the atmosphere even more and more until some bat shit weather anomaly wipes us all out as a species..

History mofo, do you even know how the AMA rose to prominence?

George H. Simmons (responsible for bringing the AMA cartel to national fruition)
>immigrant journalist
>zero medical practice
>passes on as a homeopathic quack to make money, also a back alley abortionist
>gets a mail order diploma from a Chicago school, claims to have a foreign certification as a doctor which doesn't exist
>snake oil salesman climbs his way to the AMA with zero medical experience, founds the AMA journal
>does what mob bosses in the early 1800s failed to do, creates a consolidated framework of control over medical certifications for physicians, also a controlled medical journal as part of that initiation
>diverts the fees for his mistress who he doesn't hide from wife
>tries to assassinate his wife with drugs, tried to make her suicidal, the bitch didn't croak
>wife him to court publically and drags all his dirty laundry out, causing him to be fired from his own organization in 1924
>faggot had connections to the Rockefellers and other globalists who aided him in cornering the medical market

This was in the 1920s. There are also heavy rumors Rockefellers don't use allopathy but homeopathy, same with the Knight of Malta British bloodline(papist).

So you see there is intense reasons for suspicion and distrust. They purposefully cornered the medical market, and what are they doing with it? Non of it is prevention, its all usurious "medicine", the stuff comes in when you're ill and desperate, not as a methodology of prevention.

Other items we can evidence, the food pyramid and the proliferation of GMO corn fructose and sugar in lots of food staples.
>Food pyramid is carb heavy with lots of sugars
>AMA and adjoining MSM demonized healthy cheap foods for decades despite the science being obvious fake
>American's are the most obese people on the planet, 30-40% of American women are obeast, worser for browner races

As for Vaccines?

>pic related, Knight of Malta

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>every brain is different in one way or another
>magic golden frequency
you know nothing about anything
piss off and provide your intellegence loiscense

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Somewhat relevant to what you're saying, though probably off topic. I'm not sure. I just remember seeing this a while back about conversion between analog and digital signals.

youtube.com/watch?v=cIQ9IXSUzuM

>mwrf.com/blog/5-things-you-should-know-about-5g-cellular
What the fuck was wrong with 3G? 3G will stream youtube etc. in 1080p... what the fuck more do you need on a phone? That's more than enough bandwidth.

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Non ionizing radiation doesn't ionize, but it can still interfere with electronic processes. For example sometimes when i get a text i can hear the beeping on my headset of the electronic signal just as the text is coming in. Because it's harmonically effecting the circuitry in my headset and creating an anomaly. We are circuits too, and if the power of the signal is great enough and the harmonics just right, weird shit theoretically could happen, not just heating of localized area.

>frequency can damage
which is worse, 65GHz at 100 microwatts or 60 hertz at 10GW

Any legit sources on that?

> >>

agreed, who the fuck needs fiber-tier bandwidth on a phone that can't even handle that much data without locking up bad

shcizo shit

It's relative to what you are trying to damage. As it will simply pass through certain things, or reflect.

It's like what's more dangerous, 5GW laser pointer targeting a transparent material, or 100W laser pointing at a black wall.

>people are so dumb and easy to control thats why they buy into these convulated and fake lies instead of my super dumb and simple solutions

You schizos autists are a bottomless mine of parody.

Early applications for 5G (at least 5G using mmWave) are going to be fixed wireless, not mobile. Verizon's plans are to use 5G for the last mile instead of delivering fiber all the way to the home.

How well it will work out remains to be seen.

Mexicans in Mexico read & write English a full magnitude better than the Mexicans who sneak into Burgerville
no mames

Of course "radio waves" aren't strong enough to hurt, but you're employing a buzzword to dismiss health concerns.

You're also omitting other variables associated with the technologies. While the "radio waves" the towers emit might not be detrimental, the other emissions from tower in combination can be.

Yes with other electronics. I tried to find proper source thats not some random blog for wifi and health damn this was hard.

Electromagnetic Safety states that for frequencies from 3 kHz to 300 GHz: “a review of the extensive literature on radio-frequency (RF) biological effects, consisting of well over 1,300 primary peer-reviewed publications published as early as 1950, reveals no adverse health effects that are not thermally related” and “no reproducible low-level (nonthermal) effect that would occur even under extreme environmental exposures...harmful effects are and will be due to excessive absorption of energy, resulting in heating that can result in a detrimentally elevated temperature,” such that at radiation levels low enough to avoid excessive heating it should be harmless [9], [10]. The use of low-level (less than 1μW/cm2) radiation in mmWave airport security scanners throughout the world on thousands of travelers is performed daily under the widely accepted view that the only potential direct biological effect of the nonionizing radiation in this band is heating

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4629874/#!po=1.92308

Like stimulating certain receptors at election time for example

Read Thats as reputable source as you can get on internet today.

>You're also omitting other variables associated with the technologies. While the "radio waves" the towers emit might not be detrimental, the other emissions from tower in combination can be.

Anything can be, it can be we all die tomorrow. There up above is actual source that validates my claims.