Chose one and only one ;

If we take immigrants from 3rd world, it will only speed up the global warming
>Finland 8.5 tons of CO2 emission per capita
>Afganistan 0.7 tons per capita

Also, the fertility rate in Afganistan is one of the biggest in the world (more than 4) compared to finnish below 2. Afgans are biggest 3rd world immigrant group here.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_carbon_dioxide_emissions_per_capita

Immigration and all activities that increase the population are worst crime aganist enviroment. If an enviromentalist doesn't support population decline (not to extinct of course) he is not an enviromentalist.

>Then explain why the U.S. has illegal immigrants despite the fact their border is one of the most advanced in the world
Politics and length of the border.
Also it’s easier to defend a country than continent.
I am from Poland and my country’s border can be defended easily

Advanced border?
Youre a laugh m8

>I wish they would, but they never will.
If the situation becomes as dire as you think, they'll appear.

>You just can't monitor the whole perimeter of a country, let alone an entity duch as Europe or the U.S
>But Romans could do it in the year 100 without drones, advanced weaponry and machine learning
Kill yourself.

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>We cannot contain them
That's where you're wrong.

And if the jews won't let you, they won't let us either.

I agree, and I do not support the growth of population.

I think you underestimate the size of the problem. They will climb walls, break barriers and use their friends as bullet shields to get those sweet, sweet gibs.

I was just trying to make the point that borders can only do do much so stop millions of savages.

The situation is almost here friend, only ten more years and you'll see them come by packs of 10 000.

And romans totally weren't taken down by hordes of nordics and barbarians, in fact the roman empire is still going strong as of today.

False dichotomy. Your options are NOT the only ones. We can exterminate the shitskins, or ban them from our countries. You are a VERY low IQ individual.

Yeah, in fact a lot of politicians are seriously considering genociding nigge- oh wait, none of those powerless buffons will lift a finger to stop them. And how did banning illegals work out for you? Not so clever now are you?

>and be realistic, you're never gonna hear a president say "We will shoot any migrant boat on sight/" I wish they would, but they never will.
You can hear this in Eastern Europe.

>And romans totally weren't taken down by hordes of nordics and barbarians
That was 400 years after the limes was made, faggot.

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It is why we are selecting politicians to fight off the invasion. You're still not clever. By the way, shitskins deliberately invade white countries because they want to increase their carbon footprints. So, the best thing to do is kill them, and SEND back all of the ones who previously invaded, citizen or not. The only true choice to be made is the best method of disposing of the skitskins.

Niggers will just walk in by forests or find another way, thinking that making immigration illegal won't do anything, except make them more violent.

Point still stands, you know you're wrong, just stop arguing with me if your best argument is a brainlet wojack.

Name one politician with a realistic way of disposing of niggers that has any serious influence, because as far as I'm aware, "we" are not even making 3% of the west population, so goo luck getting a nigger killer in any real position of power.

The biggest problem these shitholes have is uncontrollable population growth, global warming pales in comparison to that. As for us, all we need to do is stop them from coming here. Where there is a will there is a way

>I hate immigrants, they should stay in africa
I think you mean to say
>I hate africans, they should stay in africa

faggot

>the Roman military was so effective because it used advanced logistics
>Therefore we must use advanced military logistics
>B-but the Roman empire fell to the Barbrarians 500 years after it was founded, under very different circumstances.
>advanced logics and millitary tactics are useless
No wonder the French have so many jokes about the Belgians being retarded.

No offence retard but it's a lot easier to contain niggers in africa than it is to stop global warming.

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The decline of birth rates will come with modernization (lower death rates) sadly, a lot of them still live in mud hutts, I'm afraid we won't see a declining population growth rate before ~2040.

Your point being?

The circumstances are going to be worse this time, because it's not a few nords, it's an entire fucking continent, try to think a little more next time.
>belgian jokes
Oh no whatever will I do??

Politicians can't, and won't stop niggers, how many times will I have to say it?

How about the third option: Hate immigrants and stop feeding Africa.

I love the Talos Principle.
It's honestly among the best videogames I've ever played.

as many times as you like retard, if scarcity of basic resources was being heightened by nogs swarming our beaches we'd have coastal defences up in 3 months.

I know the rules of the game are:
>Chose one and only one
but in reality that is a false dichotomy.
I don't agree with your premise that we can't stop them from entering the West. We have the most sophisticated militaries in the world that could turn the continent of africa to glass several times over.
Option three would be:
>I hate immigrants, they should stay in africa
>I don't care about global warming
>Let them die there, survival of the fittest and they lose.

False dichotomy.
You've been kikeposting all day, I'm ashamed of your flag.

Yes, yes keep giving your money to sand people who want to conquer your countries.

Don't use solar energy to run your country with your country's own resources.

>And if the jews won't let you, they won't let us either.
Seems like we both need to rid ourselves of the jew mr waffle man

>circumstances
This is a Roman soldier in the year 500 :
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Vs. a barbarian in the year 500 :
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This is a soldier in the year 2018 :
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Vs. a "refugee" in the year 2018 :
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You didn't even understand my point.
Are you legitimately retarded?

People who invest in credit default on the euro, like the big short will get rich, Each individual's countries currency will be decided by it's gdp, nationalist sweep

This would kill a few, but bring them here faster I'm afraid.

youtu.be/tLgobo3DMhA

I really doubt this, but it's only an opinion, this never happened before so therens no way of saying with 100% certainty how things will go.

Read my first reply.

Same for you.

I dream of it my friend.

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>you will never get a game like talos principle again
>until a year or two after serious sam 4 when they release talos principle 2

Have you played the DLC? I am halfway through it (I imagine) and it's been pretty great so far, a bit dissapointed croteam/devolver didn't show us anything at E3.

Mais je croyais que tu aimes les bites noires?
Donc c'est quoi ton problème?

>Same for you.
The jew has been named and scrambles for arguments where everyone sees there are none.

Yeah, the DLC was a real wild ride. The star world puzzles were crazy hard, but once I solved them, I felt retarded for not seeing how simple they were.

try responding

I accept your point that there is currently no political will to protect our borders but don't accept that we are unable to protect our borders.
Do you think 100 million africans trying to enter europe illegally all at once would do this via peaceful means?
I don't and therefore think a miltary response would be inevitable.
The reality is that they would come in much more manageable amounts which would easily be stopped.

I was meaning to say that I hate niggers as much as the other guy, but just doing jackshit while posting on Jow Forums won't do anything, jew filled governments won't try and stop niggers, so the only way we have to limit them is by making Africa kind of acceptable to live in. Starving niggers will only result in them coming faster and being more agressive, the number of deads would be almost insignificant seeing as they would be helped by lots of jew financed associations on their way to europe. I hate both jews, niggers, abd recognize that global warming has to do with all of it.

First time I played, I went full on Elohim worshipper to see what would happen, got the tower ending the second time though. I thought they could have done a better job with the Elohim worshipper route.

You are most likely correct, but a non negligeable part would still get across.

Why is this our problem?
>also global warming doesn't exist

We don't owe them anything.
We better cleanse the corruption from our governments and protect our borders.
If niggers want whitey to fix their Africa, they should sell it to us.

>If we don't stop unicorns we will have no choice but to accept millions and millions of black migrants from Africa.

You don't have to let these people in at all.

Getting rid of corrupt governments would be the best option, but seeing who gets the most votes here, it's not likely to happen.

>yeah brah like just tell em to go away
Brilliant, user, why had we not thought of this before???

>be realistic, you're never gonna hear a president say "We will shoot any migrant boat on sight/"

Presidents have done far worse in recent history than that. Just look at what America was doing during the Arab spring. Arming genocidal proxies in an attempt to take down governments that they don't want to continue to exist, even though by doing this you would create dangerous power vacuums which would allow people to start committing genocide and setting up slave markets.
Then there was that little event where the USA completely destroyed Iraq under false pretences, only to them build it up again and then have it destroyed again but this time with one of their proxies.

The previous administration of the USA was absolutely ruthlessly brutal in a way that easily matches the brutality of Hitler and Stalin so actually killing a bunch of illegals really isn't off the agenda.
Western governments like to pretend that they are all about tolerance and fairness, but, when it suits them, they will happily start committing atrocities.

What a bizarre choice. Over population is the root cause of global warming, if you believe in global warming. Too many people needing too much stuff, causing too much pollution.
Migration does not stop that. Only a program of population reduction in those country's, middle east and Africa that are responsible for over population. The west is already doing that, migration will sabotage that effort.

European countries could kill 4 billion invading Africans with ease IF THEY SO WISHED

They'd never make it across the Mediterranean if Europe didn't let them. It's actually not a problem if you abandon the insane moralfaggotry that seemingly dictates you don't have a right to dictate who enters your own country.

What are you saying op, when global warming forces 4 billion niggers north that Europe has no choice in the matter? The current state of affairs won't be tolerated forever, and a few billion nigs would be impossible to for all but the most hardcore commie to accept. By then reality will have set in, us or them.

Your post is retarded

It will not be easy, but we can uncover the corruption piece by piece.
These traitors have been compromised one way or another, if we find out what they're being blackmailed with, we can turn it around.
It's one big hierarchy of people owning people because of the dirt they have on eachother.

The US military specialises in hostile invasions and defence against hostile invasions.
A bunch of migrants with no weapons and little in the way of food won't be a problem for a determined military.
Also, it wouldn't be hard to change the laws so that people have the right to shoot illegal immigrants on sight, or to set up special illegal immigrant hunting units.
Some people are already de-facto illegal immigrant hunters.

>I'm afraid we won't see a declining population growth rate before ~2040.
We will if we, get this, STOP SENDING FOREIGN AID

>yeah brah like just tell em to go away
Italy and Austria have literally just done this.
The UK also said it wasn't going to take in any refugees.

You can contain them. Your weak leaders have just sold you out.

Enjoy your waffles and beer before some random Ahmeds beat you within an inch of your life and gang rape your wife.

>Afgans are biggest 3rd world immigrant group here.
How the fuckers know about Finland in the first place?

>>I hate immigrants, they should stay in africa
obvious choise ofcourse
unless you love african cock in you and your wifes and children because that's what will happen if you don't take care of your enviroment

no, the didn't, that's why the had to leave england and pull back out of germanic clay

Because they're not punished for being in the USA most of the time, in fact they're heavily incentivised.

Imagine a world where illegal aliens were shot on sight, illegal immigrants would drop to near 0%. This will be the realty in an apocalyptic scenario like global warming forcing the 4-5 billion projected inhabitants north....blacks will start getting shot on sight so fast your head will spin, it'll descend into homogenous madness very quickly.

Once global warming hits and the great migration starts it will be actually very easy to stop. It will clearly become an us v them situation. Once white people actually decide to genuinely and I mean genuinely fight something/someone, there's only ever one winner.

Pic related

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>Prove me wrong.
genocide

>>I hate immigrants, they will stay in africa

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I'm sorry if I can't reply to everyone, there are many replies and I try to adress points I haven't adressed before.

The major difference here is that it's mostly civilians, and it concerns europe more than America.
There will be massive uproar if govs start shooting down jamal's kids, trust me.

You are completely correct, but trying to convince niggers to make less kids would be like trying to convince a cat to stop sleeping.

The thing I fear most is that with a new government would clme more corruption, but we can still try.

It won't be counted as an "invasion" as it's civilians. I know the US could potentially take a few ships down here and there, but Europe would most likely not touch them oit of fear of breaking human rights or whathever.

I agree, and I try to convince as many people as I can to stop, but last time we tried this, the entire hollywood/popstar clique made sure aid got sent more and more. And again, they will come faster.

Yes but this time they would be far more and far less educated/compliant. The current immigrants are the nice people, those who may come in the future are actual savages.

If it becomes an us vs them situation as you said, we can stop the largest part, yes, but it would take concentrared effort and possible draft, and it's likely that our govs will try and accept a lot before saying "no more" at which point the gov would be leading a war both with exterior niggers and interior niggers.

As long as we have some way of maintaining some buffer zones so we can mobilise and have access to enough equipment then a few hundred thousand whites could defeat a few billions Africans. They've done a fuckton of projections on this, as long as concentrated pockets of whites can survive we win. and if we don't get most of them within a year then the rest die of starvation because they're not getting feed by us.

I have a hypothesis that things predictably get done when the people at the top of the social hierarchy get affected.
At the top of the tree you can entertain luxury morality, and you experience something of a disconnect between reality and what you think because your immediate lifestyle is so good that all negative concepts are conjured up in the imagination. They are abstractions and things that are dealt with by calm and unchallenged minds.
They are more inclined to believe things that tickle their brains and make them feel happy than they are to entertain thoughts about brutal honesty and brutal practicality as necessities for survival.
When they experience genuine threat and their fight or flight instincts kick in, the game immediately changes.

The working classes were the first to experience the negative effects of immigration and diversity. They aren't very wealthy nor sophisticated people, and they aren't subtle, so their responses were to shout, fight back(skinheads) and/or move out of the area(white flight).

The middle and upper classes, unaffected by this, looked at these working class people as strange and irrational. All their experiences were small in number and mostly good. Diversity for them was a one off guy in university or the "friendly" Chinese people that sell Chinese food to them.

Then diversity started to pour into middle class neighbourhoods, and middle class people started to experience the negative effects. Then you get "the alt right". These people have more money, more skills and are a bit more subtle, and thus, are in a better position to change the culture. They have a bigger social impact, but not big enough to really change the direction of the country.

The big changes will come when the guys at the top get affected by it. When it's their sons, daughters and property getting targeted we will see a real shift in the political currents and, naturally, the upper classes will take the credit for saving the day.

>There will be massive uproar if govs start shooting down jamal's kids, trust me.
But it won't. Liberals don't actually care about anything that doesn't affect them. Look at what happened in Libya.
When's the last time you saw a liberal complaining about the slave markets of Libya? The liberal left don't care. When this shit starts to seriously affect people, they won't care.
Anti-immigration is a big thing right now, it's practically destroyed globalism over night.
>Europe would most likely not touch them
Italy just sent refugee ships back home and Austria blocked illegals with their armed forces.
>The current immigrants are the nice people
They mostly behave like shit heads from my experience.

Op here, had to change computers.

It's not just an hypothesis, it's reality;
My philosophy teacher, who worked in schools of many economy/racial backgrounds, said that the shools with the least "racists" were those with kids who lived in rich neighborhoods, because they didn't see what niggers did, and just believed that everyone is a nice person by default.

The more you talk, the more my hopes go up, but I want to keep a critical point of view on the matter. I know a lot of them do it by trend, and aren't ballsy enough to do anything about it, but about anti-immigration, I believe it's still matched by pro immigration groups.
>Italy just sent refugee ships back home and Austria blocked illegals with their armed forces.
What I'm afraid of is when illegals will be equipped with ak-47s and bombs, without hiding it.
>They mostly behave like shit heads from my experience.
They're nice in comparaison of the rest, as I said in teh OP, they still aren't able to adapt to the western standard when it comes to values or behavior.

>Belgians
Yes they did you pleb. The Roman Empire imploding has nothing to tell us about the effectiveness of their border prior to that. And it was really effective.

try responding, you evasive shill

Quick and consise answer because you're not worth my time;
you say
>romans had borders and tactics that kept invaders out
>it ended up failing
so you say :
>europeans have borders and tactics that can keep invaders out
and I say
>it will end up failing like the roman empire's borders
you say :
>it was a different context so it's not gonna be the same today
and my final answer to you is
>it's a different context so you can't establish for sure if it's gonna work or not
as I said somewhere in the thread, you can stop a big part not not all of them.
and regarding the numbers can make a big difference.
And out of curiosity, who am I shilling for exactly?

one day your disdainity will cost you more than you wish for mountainjew hahaha
how do you think it imploded?
rome was tierd of expantion so they stopped funding their borders because it costed too much and we germanic volk where their sweet sweet pain in the ass including your region that did not existed yet, we made damn shure to make it as costly and difficult for the roman invader to hold our clay, you old remnant of ranaway templars

>it ended up failing
>Dunning-Kruger in full effect
No shit you idiot, as did the Mongol Empire, does that mean their military tactics were not working ?
You claim it's impossible to stop a bunch of beggars from invading your continent when I showed you people in the 1st century with very few means could stop groups of armed intruders. I said the late Roman empire was a different context, because it litterally imploded. I showed you that the difference between the invaders and the defenders has increased dramatically since then, today it's a high-tech army vs. a bunch of unarmed beggars.
You're a massive retard.

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We are due for another Ice Age and this change in temperature is part of its arrival. We may be effecting global temperatures but it literally does not matter; this will happen anyway.

> "I think you underestimate the size of the problem. They will climb walls, break barriers and use their friends as bullet shields to get those sweet, sweet gibs."

What and you think a country willing to violently repel them will go "oh they got over the wall, looks like we have to accommodate them now". Are you actually retarded?

>It's not just an hypothesis, it's reality;
It's interesting that your professor said this. It does appear to be genuinely true.
>I want to keep a critical point of view on the matter.
>aren't ballsy enough to do anything about it,
To think critically lets set up some axioms.
1) We both acknowledge that liberal attitudes require sheltered lives. When the upper classes experience the negative effects of diversity, they will change their attitudes.
2) Historically and in the present, humans do a lot of fighting and a lot of mass murder when it suits them. Governments find it relatively easy to order people to shoot complete strangers, so, there's a very high likelihood that this mass immigration problem will be solved with mass murder.
3) when the main opposition to this type of stuff are now supporters of it, there will be nobody to actually prevent the armed forces and armed citizens from defending their territories.
With this in mind, a genuine armed response to mass immigration can easily be viewed as possible.
>What I'm afraid of is when illegals will be equipped with ak-47s and bombs, without hiding it.
That would provoke more of an armed response as well as collapse support for illegal immigrants. People paint with broad strokes. All of them. Even liberals.
>They're nice in comparaison of the rest, as I said in teh OP
Different degrees of bad then.

It's ironic that the EU often sees itself as a successor to he Roman empire, because part of the reason for the Roman empires collapse was its tolerance of mass migration.
The Goths came into the empire as refugees. The Romans ended up fucking with them and they ended up raiding the countryside, arming themselves and eventually fought and defeated a Roman army before moving into Italy and sacking the city of Rome.

I'd really like another ice age desu.

I wouldn't go so hard on the guy. He's doing well as a devils advocate and he's generally right about the political climate at the moment not favouring brutally practical methods.
Where I think he is making an error is in underestimating just how quickly attitudes are changing and how very, very, very possible it is for atrocities to take place. It's also important to remember that the radical left are experiencing a complete ideological collapse and more and more people are starting to realise this.

When you consider abortion and what the liberals and globalists recently did in North Africa and the Middle East, it becomes immediately obvious that the left don't care about bloodshed, genocide and slavery.
When you look at their anti-White rhetoric and their support for institutionally racist policies, it also becomes obvious that they are basically more racist than Hitler. They can thus no longer claim to be anti-racist and can no longer attempt to spook people by calling them Nazi's, in fact, the Nazis and Fascists actually emerged due to the necessity of opposing leftist radicalism.

That the left now openly hate the White race and treats the White race as an interest group then it is only logical for White people to start operating as an interest group. This collective identity is being thrust upon them every time they are attacked as individuals for being White.
The left have thus tied a rope around their own necks and kicked the bucket out from under their own feet. They have 100% validated everything the far right warned people about.

>The global warming meme is to take away more money from the goyim
I think the theory that the chinese started it is more likely, as they are the ones who benefited the most from the regulations the west imposed on themselves
>if we don't stop global warming, Africa is going to become absolute hell
>implying niggers aren't doing that on their own

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calm down you serial posting spastic

>The Goths came into the empire as refugees
Tell that to the illiterate retard that started this thread.

I don't care about global warming. The earth will Outlast humans. My concern is we're creating a toxic environment for ourselves.

>shitskins deliberately invade white countries

This seems inversely familiar

I choose both because theyre not mutually incompatible and the fact that global warming is man made does not mean the modern world becomes a release valve for poor breeding decisions.

test

Solar can't power a country alone.

Global warming is simply a product of there being too many people. Too much is consumed.

Niggers should stay in Africa and there should be less people overall. To the tune of 2 billion.

Resources are so maxed out that any real global disaster is going to devastate global population. Yall wanna cry over a 30k dead? Wait till we hit half a billion dead.

Humans are a disease. The only real hope for us as a sustainable species is for a group to take over and start exterminating the over populated regions. I think it's going to happen with drones someday. When someone can make the world a better place with the push of a button rather than a finger on the trigger.