All right Jow Forums This is my view on a perfect society.
>A representative democracy where freedom of speech without restrictions is a basic human right. >A centrist economic system where businesses such as Alcohol,drugs,gambling and guns are government property where they are highly controlled. Everything else is private owned. >Free or at least cheap education and healthcare is a human right but richer families can pay more for better schools and hospitals. >LGBT people are mentally ill and should be seen as such. Similar in Russia, it's legal to be gay but normalization of it is forbidden. >Right to own firearms for either sport or for home protection as long as you have done a bunch of tests or done military service. If you have commited a violent crime then you are not allowed to own firearms. Automatic weapons and explosives are forbidden. Semi automatic rifles need to have a maximum amount of 10 rounds per magazine. Semi automatic pistols need to have a maximum amount of 15 rounds per magazine. All other rifles such as pump shotguns, lever action rifles or revolvers are perfectly legal. >Nationalism and patriotism is a must and preservation of our culture is an importancy if it fits into modern society. If it ain't broke don't fix it. >All healthy males and females that have turned 18 are required to do military service. They need to fit the criteria during training or they can't finish their training. >Affirmative action and forced diversity is a big no no in my society. Only the qualified can get the job. >Migration is strictly controlled where only refugees from nearby countries can seek asylum. Immigrants can only come if they seek work. If immigrants commit any crime before gaining citizenship then they get deported. In order to gain citizenship, they need to have tons of knowledge on our laws,culture and country in general and need to have lived in the country for at least 5 years.
Skin color doesn't mean shit to me. Only culture and values does. If you're a piece of shit, I'll treat you like a piece of shit. If you're kind and respectful then I'll respect you back.
Xavier Sullivan
Sweden yes
Adrian Johnson
wow you so fucking boring OP
Wyatt Nguyen
I still don't get why the melanin in your skin matters so much. I've met nice people and piece of shits from all races and don't get why I should be a dick to one race but nice to another.
Daniel Ramirez
How am I boring exactly?
Christopher Allen
russia is a perfect society
>respect the elderly generation >respect women, with not too much radicalism (they are still perceived as mothers at the first place) >respect different religions and understand the difference between faith and fanatism
Sweden and the rest of the EU could learn a whole lot from Russia even if they have their flaws as well.
Sebastian Reyes
nordic countries are maternalistic (high social care/ country is the "mother" etc etc) unforunately neo-liberalism raped our countries in the ass :'(
>Sweden and the rest of the EU could learn a whole lot from Russia even if they have their flaws as well. the reason why EU is so much nicer than the US is because various countries, cultures, people live quite close to each other so we exchange values and norms. US on the contrary are stuck on hteir own continent, so they are waving their dick over the oceans.
Jonathan Hernandez
>representative democracy >compulsory military service hmm, might wanna think that through. you supercede a bunch of nationalistic/socialistic qualities with representative democracy. the citizens could easily vote out any of your supposed social safeguards cause of muh-freedoms and muh-laziness. there is no happy middle ground between centralised and decentralised government. your 'perfect' society wouldn't last 2 generations as such. that is why there are no actual representative democracies and the media pretty much cows the populace while richfags push buttons.
Chase Sullivan
Pretty much. There have pretty much always been war in Europe for most of history but the only time the Europe have truly had peace is when they established the EU. The EU today has become corrupt though and if they don't change their ways, then it will end up collapsing in it's own weight.
Asher Johnson
Yeah, that's when it gets tricky. Maybe you could put it in a sort of constitution that can't be changed or something.
Henry Robinson
Gentlemen, this is far-right political view, by Swedish standard.
Hahaha haha hahaha haha
Jose Cox
>A centrist economic >guns are government property where they are highly controlled SHALL
Carson Evans
Yeah pretty much. I'm a conservative in Sweden but anywhere else I would be a liberal lmao.
Luke Hughes
Gun STORES are government property. Not guns in themselves.
Levi Hill
EU founded '93. '99 Serbia brutalized by EU/NATO warmongers for having tried to cleanse their territory of non-Europeans. You've only founded a greater means of your own common destruction as a continent. Having left colonies with infatrstructural advancements and then suffering their overpopulated invasion on your home territory.
Thomas Campbell
Sweden wants to leave the EU because of all the random bullshit that the EU courts spew out from their mouths. Why the fuck should a German council in Brussels tell our politicians what to do with their country. Our own politicians know more about their own country than what they do and they should make all the decisions.
Camden White
Because if you're a universalist while they remain ethnocentric you're just being an idiot cuckold giving away your tribe's resources so that you can feel better about yourself. Look no further than 56%land, the moment they think they can get away with it they start openly gloating about disenfranchising you and saying that what's yours is "theirs" now.
Landon James
Eventually, you'll need a continental government because your actually a puny peninsula if you look west-east. Saying the EU is the cause of world peace is ridiculous. That's supposed to be maintained by WMD stalemate. Bombard libya and 2 years later millions of north Africans are swarming the coasts. Constantly threaten Russia and envelop the western Slav nations. The ultimatum is in the mail on Brussels and thats the main reason the disenfranchised nationalists want no part of the EU. Can't avoid the bullet when you're screaming "shoot me, shoot me" for long.
Grayson Parker
I'm not talking about culture and values. I'm talking about THE COLOR OF YOUR SKIN which you can't change. Why the fuck should I disregard another human being because they have more melanin in their skin than me. I judge people according to their values and character. Not the color of their skin.
Ethan Phillips
>All healthy males and females that have turned 18 are required to do military service
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU FUCK YOU. My biggest fear, worth than death is having to shower in front of other people like you do in the military. I could never ever do that.
Luis Barnes
Yeah, I mean Norway isn't in the EU and they're perfectly fine. International trading works well. They have a strong economy. Sweden should be the same in my opinion.
Nolan Johnson
>representative democracy Stopped reading there
Lucas Allen
Then don't shower with other dudes. Shower when nobody else is there. Dumbass.
James Wood
There are much more biological differences between human races than skin color. You're lost if you doubt such a simple reality.
Oliver Price
But why should I disregard someone because they have a different skin color. Let's say they are looking for a job and they meet all the requirements and they are very respectful, kind and formal. Should I disregard them just because they're black?
Julian Brown
Ethnostate for all except jews
Matthew Reed
My view of a perfect society: - techno-imperial rule where the ruling emperor is a genetically augmented super man - right to political speech is earned through merit or military service - state controlled breeding. Genetic engineering widely applied. All young females required to bear two children for the state. Least capable citizens put to chemical castration. - total patriarchal control. Females not educated beyond basic literacy. Female testimony not admissible in court - legal proceeding is inquisitorial, as opposed to the modern western adversarial system. The court finds facts and issue verdict. - presence of racial aliens categorically forbidden. Race-mixing leads to loss of citizenship and permanent exile. - only orphans or children procured by the state may serve in high public office - all strategically critical industries are owned by the state. - no less than 10% of economic output and human talents are dedicated to defense. - compulsory military training. Standing army composed of elite soldiers from dedicated military class of citizens trained from childhood. - AI assisted economic planning. - sexual deviancy leads to capital punishment - education is free, to those qualify - health care is free, to those deemed worthy of it
Sebastian Harris
In the military you all shower together. And even if i do wait until no one is there someone could walk in at any moment. RETARD
Jordan Morales
Race isn't just skin color, dummy. "Culture" can't be separated from race.
Kayden Sanchez
You dont understand the problem this brings, huh?
Stop depending on the state for everything, let people have self determination.
Sebastian Diaz
You are disregarding skin color/race by treating different races similarly. More to the point you are disregarding your own body and genetics. Your mind is bound to it's form which is wholey different than the foreigner and very similiar to it's native people. You disregard nature and in survival that means the worms will get their meal alot sooner.
I didnt even read OP because it is too long the only thing i have noticed is >muh modern buildings
Michael Morales
So what? Why are you so ashamed anyway? Are you fat? you won't be fat anymore once the instructors train your ass off. Or are you just a closet faggot that pops a boner once you see other naked dudes?
Austin Morris
you're retarded
Hunter Stewart
Humans are animals fighting for resources and dominance. You are able to do this more effectively if you work as a tribe. Thus, if you practice ethnocentrism in a universalist society, you will gain more resources and dominance for yourself and your group. This strongly incentivizes such behavior, and leads to a situation where "the first one to do it wins", and conversely, "the last one to do it loses". Whites' obsession with universalism, while all the other ethnic groups that we're inviting into our countries practice ethnocentrism (which they are NOT going to give up on, given how strong the incentive is), means that we are hemorrhaging resources and power and will in the near future be dominated by outsiders. You cannot simply ">tfw too moral to be racist" your way out of this. >jasss.soc.surrey.ac.uk/16/3/7.html
>Immigrants can only come if they seek work How about absolutely no immigrants at all?
Eli Evans
Sometimes you need immigrants to boost the population of workers who can work the shitty jobs.
Thomas Bailey
Or you can make the capitalists boost wages, rather than letting them import foreigners for peanuts so that they can use that extra money to buy a third yacht instead and scream at you that you're "racist" if you oppose in order to keep you quiet.
Your descend to hell begins the day you decide some jobs are too shitty and you need immigrants to do them.
Alexander Sanders
>a government I’m out
Jayden Collins
>Sometimes you need immigrants to boost the population of workers who can work the shitty jobs. Lol, but they stay, never heard of chain migration? Those people might even demand special treatment. If you want migrant anyway, at least take those highly skilled people, not those low skilled people
Benjamin Price
>>A representative democracy where freedom of speech without restrictions is a basic human right. >>A centrist economic system where businesses such as Alcohol,drugs,gambling and guns are government property where they are highly controlled. Everything else is private owned.
How do you compute democracy with all the rest of elements of your society? 4 years of what you wrote and then socialists take over?
Dylan Scott
what shitty jobs? every career offers labor for social benefit. if the society is properly patterned than every man would have a distinct domain exclusive of others and be a necessary member. foreign immigrants could only be disruptive in any "perfect society" because perfection entails self sufficency.
Hudson Diaz
Are you Chinaman live in HongKong or whiteman live in HongKong?
David Lee
This is the greatest bullshit ever. As long as wages are not rising faster than inflation there is no labor shortage. PERIOD!!
Besides. If you like progress the best thing that can happen is a labor shortage. People will be forced to innovate and develop new technology.
Jason Jones
ok what i'm looking at and it's just a matter of time those cubes fall out like a jenga
Angel Russell
I get a boner at the thought of other people seeing me naked.
Nicholas Murphy
>le color of your skin maymay XD I'm sure there are no other and more important differences between the races than that.
suuure this is totally like skyrim with different racial abilities
Andrew Hall
Sorry Swed boi, but the only government a utopia can have is a Meritocracy, since by definition that means only those who are qualified and able to perform their duties lead, rather than just the people best able to rally support for themselves through a democracy, in which they might not even understand the position of power that they're running for.
Nathan Lewis
I'm no goddamn gweilo.
Liam Morris
>females that have turned 18 are required to do military service.
LOL are you some kind of Feminist too. Muh strong wahmen. What kind of civicuck garbage is this society?? Fuck out of here with this shit op
problem is that i seriously believe at least 50% of whites worldwide believe this mantra. it just so happens flag related posted it to Jow Forums. they're just fucking air heads who can't reason the importance of social interaction besides being well mannered and feeding on the french revolutionary bullshit till it kills instinctive survival behaviour.
Cameron Cooper
Women are required since we need people who can do the less physically demanding work such as artillery and the airforce while the stronger men can fight in the frontlines. Europe and the Soviet union did this in ww2 and it worked just fine.
David Lee
What European country other than the Soviets used women soldiers on the front lines of WW2? You've watched the Battlefield V trailer too many times.
Ryan Carter
>limits on guns >we can vote >people are allowed to vote on issues they aren't educated on kill yourself op.
Eli Martin
Also, no press freedom, russian passports are easily given to uzbeks and similar sandniggers and, most importantly, church has a very big influence, not like in muslim countries, but definitely more than in normal world. I only listed problems that directly contradict with OP's post
Cooper Hernandez
This is the same weak, neo-con society we have today. Within 2 decades your corporations will overpower your "representative democracy" and use your lax immigration/refugee policy to bring in as much cheap labor as possible, burdening your socialized healthcare and school systems. The original residents are eventually replaced but at least the new farmhands celebrate Lief Erikkson Day.
Zachary King
>Women are required since we need people who can do the less physically demanding work No they aren't. We aren't in desperate need of soldiers, and they would be of better use birthing children for our nation.
Angel Torres
I just said that women aren't able to fight in the frontlines which causes them to have less physically demanding jobs instead. Every allied country in ww2 did this.
Nicholas Edwards
>democracy stopped reading right there
Jordan Bennett
Divine Christian monarchy where all pedos and satanists are hung publicly.
Wyatt Cox
So, what of birthing, family organization, and child rearing? Every woman you're enforcing to serve the government is losing years of reproductive cycle. You're just stereotypically a Swedish cuck and it's like you don't fucking get it. I know there are good honorable Swedes how could you assume a place on a political forum that denounces your social democratic i.e. bolshevist madness?
Camden Peterson
No press freedom is horrible. How is that good in any way. Religion shouldn't be involved with the government either.
Jack Kelly
Don't like the restrictions on firearms but other than that sounds good to me . But lastly needs to exclude non whites
Robert Sanders
Wouldn't that mean that you have to hang 99% of all priests as well?
David Gonzalez
The Vatican is the whore of Babylon anyway so it’s a mute point. A pedo raping under gods name is an abomination.
Carson Adams
I'm all for full integration of church and state and total suppression of "free press". When everyone speaks freely the result is noise and confusion. There can be only one voice.
Nathaniel Garcia
>mfw a child responds with an analogy from a kids game It's almost impressive how effective the brainwashing has been. For all the massive rifts between the races, it's nothing short of incredible that there are still people who believe that all the races are equal minus the melanin.
>Right to own firearms for either sport or for home protection as long as you have done a bunch of tests or done military service. If you have commited a violent crime then you are not allowed to own firearms. Automatic weapons and explosives are forbidden. Semi automatic rifles need to have a maximum amount of 10 rounds per magazine. Semi automatic pistols need to have a maximum amount of 15 rounds per magazine. All other rifles such as pump shotguns, lever action rifles or revolvers are perfectly legal. How about you fuck off. If we have to take a test and all that other licensing shit to be "qualified", then we are clearly law abiding citizens and should have access to ANY firearm we want, regardless of caliber, magazine size, or full-auto capability.
Angel Jones
>heavy church influence >promoting traditional values, while still being separated from the state >a bad thing somehow
Nathaniel Jackson
But that's what Sweden and Venezuela does and they are shitholes or turning into shitholes.
Josiah Gutierrez
The eternal swede
David Hill
This.
Luke Martinez
a planet without any nonwhites and white race traitors is the ideal society
Parker Collins
>those gun restrictions fuck off you pathetic cuckold, why are beta onions slurpers so terrified of guns?
Dominic Rogers
Seems good, but less democracy. It's better to be a little more conservative. Because all democracy came to leftism and SJW. I advise you to read "Policy" by Aristotle. You can find a lot of interesting things in his book. Also, You can read a book by Gustave Le Bon "The Crowd: A Study of the Popular Mind".
Ayden Powell
If you don't control the press others will and it will be serving someone else's agendas. Free press is an impossible ideal.
Jason Peterson
and so the swedish utopia is crumbling down, crumbling down, crumbling down
Benjamin Murphy
>i know you are but what am i???
Jonathan Miller
Excuse me, but You are wrong. We have the same problems as EU, but we are much poorer then you. But, some laws and taxes are better here. I always wonder how do English treats slavs. Do you really hate us or not? The only plus there we have not huge LGBT+ society and there are not so many niggers
Carson Hughes
>We have the same problems as the EU You're not getting blacked
Luis Cook
And the overwhelming majority of anti-Slav sentiment is shills. Obviously people view even white foreigners as "others" but nobody believes the Nazi-tier shit that kikes and shitskins spam on here constantly
Kayden Torres
Correcting it for you: >A representative democracy where freedom of speech without restrictions is a basic human right, and only working men have the right to vote. >A centrist economic system where businesses such as Alcohol, drugs, tobacco and gambling are either banned or highly controlled. Everything else is private owned. >Free (or at least cheap) redpilled education. Private schools allowed >Healthcare is widely available but richer families can pay more for better services. A healthy lifestyle is also promoted, so fatties and druggies get nothing. >LGBT people are mentally ill and should be seen as such. Similar in Russia, it's legal to be gay but normalization of it is forbidden. >Right to own firearms shall not be infringed. Gun training is promoted. Not allowed to own firearms if you have a record. Automatic weapons and explosives are forbidden. Semi automatic rifles need to have a maximum amount of 10 rounds per magazine. Semi automatic pistols need to have a maximum amount of 15 rounds per magazine. All other rifles such as pump shotguns, lever action rifles or revolvers are perfectly legal. >Nationalism and patriotism is a must and preservation of our culture is an importancy if it fits into modern society. If it ain't broke don't fix it. >All healthy males that have turned 18 are required to do military service. They need to fit the criteria during training or they can't finish their training. >Affirmative action and forced diversity is a big no no. Only the qualified can get jobs. >Migration is strictly controlled where only refugees from nearby countries can seek asylum. Immigrants can only come if they seek work. If immigrants commit any crime before gaining citizenship then they get deported. Citizenship only given to people of the same race, and they need to have tons of knowledge on our laws,culture and country in general and need to have lived in the country for at least 7 years. >Serious sanctions for mainstream media lying >NGOs banned
Samuel Myers
Because they can kill people if they fall into the wrong hands?
Nathan Davis
You could say the exact same thing about knives and hammers you retard. Wanna ban those too like the Bongs?
>All healthy males and females that have turned 18 are required to do military service No.
Having to help in a war you don't agree with is entering into that "free speech" area. If America made the draft legal, I'd leave. I'm not offing myself for the Jews.
This is a really nice fantasy you have drafted here, too bad all of it is contradicted by your first rule which is freedom of speech. You can't enforce nationalism in a society where free speech in a representative democracy is protected. Duh. As for everything else, we could just decide to vote yay or nay on these issues. Because that's what a representative democracy is.