Exercise your freedom to CARRY CONCEALED with WISDOM or loose your FREEDOM!

the situation you describe works for criminals who pretty much are bluffing
works much less like you describe if it's a crack or meth head, bent on shooting at the first chance he gets, go figure the reasons why
so open carrying is a double edged sword
it might prevent the least determined criminals from acting, but it might as well make you a prime target of the most dangerous criminals

1. "Get shot first" theory. Which is debatable
2. Maintain element of suprise
3. Discrimination by agents of the left. This would include police harassment.
4. Legality varies place to place

Do any one of you have statistics of knife violence per country ?

I conceal carry a sig p938. It’s pretty small. I’m like 5’8. 130 pounds. The definition of a Manlet. If I open carry someone could just sucker punch me and take my gun and since I’m not a super big guy there isn’t a whole lot I can do against someone that’s like 6’ and double my weight. So I don’t show my hand. If someone robs a store I’m in I’m not a likely threat because of my size which gives me an opportunity to get to cover and line up a shot. It also means I get the element of surprise in a situation where I need it. I don’t look like I would carry a gun. Some dude tried to get too close after I told him I wouldn’t bum a cigarette and he tried to get in my car. Having a pistol ended that confrontation. Never leave home without one. Man woman big or small. It is the great equalizer. Niggers run when you pull a gun.

>"Get shot first" theory. Which is debatable
It's only debatable if you assume incompetent niggers are the ones doing bad shit. In any other scenario the guy with the fuddy five on his hip is going down before he even knows there's a problem.

good post.

One more, now that i think of it.

This varies by state, but alot of places are (in my state at least) unenforceable gun free zones. So i can legally carry there, but the eatablishment could force me to leave under threat of tresspass if they knew i had a gun. So fuck them i still carry and they dont know shit about it.

>the most dangerous criminals
they dont do crimes of opportunity

That doesn’t mean you aren’t standing in the way of their plans if they had any.

nevadacarry.org/open-carry-safety.html

That's not what's happening in real life though.

have you ever shot yourself or someone else in the dick/balls?

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Where do you conceal it that it's easy to access even while sitting in a car?

unless youre john mclane, it doesnt even matter

This is a good answer right here.

a criminal is most dangerous when he's not bluffing as to whether he'll harm you
drugs can make people dangerous like that
and druggies are well known for crimes of opportunity

>not what's happening in real life though
>literally, first two stories are of people being the target of aggressions precisely because of open carrying, so to steal the guns
>stopped reading there
yeah, right...

If you're still not carrying appendix, you can't be salvaged.

>Niggers run when you pull a gun.
You pull it, you better use it.
You show it, you better use it.
If that nigger was some leftist shitbag, you would be in jail for brandishing.

>niggers should be allowed to do whatever they want
Get fucked faggot.

Serious question: does keeping a mag fully loaded like that for extended period of time weaken the springs?

Yes.

>a few cases are representative of the whole situation

Way to miss the point of the article. I'm done here.

I carry at 4:30. Kidney carry is best. Easier to walk around and do stuff. The only downside is sitting and bending over. I've tried kidney carry, but it's always jamming into my leg or torso. I'll try it again today while I'm out walking around. See if I can stand it.

The way the law in my state is written means that the gun being your car at all is considered concealed. So you need a cpl to drive with one. That also means though that it being unholstered on your seat easily accessible isn’t considered brandishing a weapon because it is in your car. Concealed. Anyways. My point is that I take mine out of my holster and set it on the seat next to me. Easily within reach. Then put it back upon exiting my vehicle. I also have a kidex holster under the steering column but I keep a different pistol there.

I am nogunz so I have no idea wtf you're talking about

Cool thanks friend just wondering. As I told other user I am nogunz so all this is fascinating to me

But that is exactally what makes it debateable. The get shot first theory works in a mass shooting with a determined attacker that is committed to his selected target.

The deterrence argument only holds water for the proverbial dindu attack, but said dindu attack is 1000 times more likely than being caught in a planned mass shooting.

Also, i dont care for deterrence becuase it just means the dindu will go pick a weak target to victimize instead of getting smoked by a ccwer.

Its a fucking magazine leaf.

You can always say "He was coming at me, I pulled it, and before I could pull the trigger, his whole demeanor changed. He just turned and ran, and there was no long a threat so I just holstered and went about my day. I was just about to call you guys and report it, but I had to re-compose myself after all that stress!"

If it is just because you are young and your family isn’t into it that’s fine. But if you are of legal age you need to get your concealed permit. It’s loke 50$ in most state tops. You can buy a decent gun for a reasonable price. Try the sig p938 (my daily driver) or an m&p shield. There are ranges that let you shoot before you buy. Just do it. It could save your life. Or relieve social anxiety.

>article starts with two cases of open carrying encouraging exactly what you try to debunk as not habbenin'
>SCREW YOU GUYS, I'M GOING HOME
kys, retard

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I'd like to see some evidence of this actually happening. I've seen lots of videos of people getting killed, but never in such a scenario. Most videos I've seen are from Brazil and SE Asia, which isn't applicable because they don't have the same gun laws, and a lot of the time they're knife attacks. Most videos I've seen of robberies in the U.S, the criminals run the moment someone starts shooting back, which implies they didn't intend on any resistance or most importantly, to kill someone.

Niggers might be dumb, but I think they know the difference between an armed robbery charge and a second degree murder charge. Basically life in prison without parole, or the potential to get out in a few years, depending on the state. My point being, the unstable ones who just attack people randomly; it's not going to matter if they don't see your firearm or not, you're going down if their intention was to kill you. I also think that scenario is very rare. You're more likely to end up in the middle of a robbery, in which case I reckon open carry as a deterrent would be more beneficial in protecting you.

The only video I've seen where someone killed another for the purpose of robbing them was somewhere in Asia. The guy was at an ATM and the robber just stabbed him in the neck from behind, took his money and left. In this scenario, open or concealed, it wouldn't matter, you're dead anyway.

Ding ding ding. He tried to get in my car. IE carjack me. I grabbed my pistol and he ran. I wouldn’t shoot someone in the back anyway.

I am a felon, I was young and did stupid things. Shame too because I live in Arizona which I hear is a good state in which to carry

No.

If some nigger is trying to get in my car over a fucking cigarette my life is in danger. I was completely justified pulling it. I was not justified to pull the trigger because he ran. I know the laws where I live well regarding firearms.

Appeal for your rights after 7 years is up. You are legally allowed to do so in most cases.

i had to go to the local craft/art supply store with my niece for some poster board and there was some loudmouth douchebag who was open carrying some ridiculous chrome plated like 10inch 44mag revolver.
we get it bro, youre fucking c o o l dude, super turbo badass
it wasnt the gun, it was his obnoxious fucking attitude WHILE having the gun.

>Niggers might be dumb, but I think they know the difference between an armed robbery charge and a second degree murder charge.
They don't and neither do most leftists as seen by the Charlottesville debacle. The average person can't even spell "involuntary manslaughter" properly and niggers can't even read it.

If you're starting from an assumption the bad guys aren't going to shoot anyone, why even bother carrying?

Concealed carry isn't nearly as important to retaining our freedom as just owning many guns.

Thanks I will look into it. On another note there is a shooting range here that lets you rent a gun and shoot it. So at least I could go there and pop off a few to at least get the feeling of what it's like

Loose freedom is the best freedom

Yeah, you need to learn your gun laws. He would have had no legal trouble at all in GA

i miss soccer mom threads

Is that a 9mm? A real American patriot would never use a caliber that is denoted in the globalist metric system.

what if )))))everyone is armed(((((

Wow!

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Go start one I'll bump it

You to be able to legally own to go rent one m, unfortunately. So you’d better be a good goy until your time is up. Then appeal through the courts. Best of luck.

Putain mais ce que tu es malhonnête sale fils de pute. Va te faire enculer. Parler à un enculé de français n'est qu'une perte de temps, surtout sur les sujets sur lesquels ils n'a aucune connaissance. Tu n'as jamais vu une arme à feu de ta vie. Je te file un lien vers un article qui prouve que quelques cas isolés n'est pas représentatif de ce qui ce se passe pour des millions de personnes. Tu ne veux rien savoir, alors je dis je me casse, pas besoin de perdre mon temps.

Mais non, tu en veux encore, et bien j'encule ta famille et tes morts aussi, sale merde, ça te va ?

Dont JUST SHOOT, OODA loop!

The OODA loop is the decision cycle of observe, orient, decide, and act, developed by military strategist and United States Air Force Colonel John Boyd. Boyd applied the concept to the combat operations process, often at the operational level during military campaigns. It is now also often applied to understand commercial operations and learning processes. The approach favors agility over raw power in dealing with human opponents in any endeavor.

wouldn't lending you a gun be considered letting you, a felon, "have custody of a firearm"?
if so, even that doesn't seem legal...

every day, brother.

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My line of work is not compatible with wearing a gun on my side. not because of rules or regulations but because it would be severely cumbersome and obtuse. unless i shove a Taurus PT111 up my asshole its not worth it.
My gun stays in my truck and if i cant go run to my truck to get the thing to blast a nigga i guess im fucked

>je dis je me casse
non, mais ça, tu l'as déjà dit, fils de singe
allez, remonte dans ton arbre, et fissa
si tu y trouves ta truie de mère, pense à l'enculer
qui sait, en y allant assez fort, peut-être qu'elle te pondra un petit frère?

I CCW so I can stop VIOLENCE.

When a Deputy is talking to someone I circle around and make sure he is ALL GOOD until back-up arrives (to the best of my civilian ability).

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Brother,

That wallet is kinda thick. If you have lower back pain you may consider keeping it in the front......

get a pussy .38 for your ankle.
they make some real super slim shit nowadays

>not dual wielding with drums

68+ will do

do you use any of those cheaper than dirt mags?

Because some of us live in states where open carry scares progressive statists. Also someone may try and steal the gun.

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thats pretty funny desu

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still not gonna work for me, half the time im wearing boots, hate to die fumbling around trying to fish out a fucking pistol from my boot.

no thanks i have to take my cellphone out my pocket because its too cumbersome.

if i cant neutralize a threat with the tools at hand then i dont deserve to live, survival of the fittest. everything around me can be made a weapon in seconds, i dont need a gun if i have a hammer or a brick

Because its socially unacceptable in a post-wild west world

The reason everyone used to open carry is so everyone else knew not to start shit, however since these times law enforcement has become better organized. If you conceal a fire arm you deserve the bullet/knife in the back thats coming for you.

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They are getting Top-Notch training!

Carry 2 pistols

1 open not chambered

1 concealed ready to go

I carry illegaly

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I dont open carry but if I did, and some edgelord faggot tried that he would get his face crushed in by my elbow, along with about 20 hammer fists after that.
You should probably discourage him from saying that, unless you want to see his face crushed into the back of his head.

A CCW is good if you are at dinner, party, coffee shop, gas station, grocery store, doctors office, stoplight, etc.......

When active shooter is on his feet I hope to sneak around to nearest exit, get comfy, then unload 34 9mm rounds into the back of his head and stop the violence.

Quality post, lad. We need more wise responses like this in threads.

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I kind of do wanna see it happen because I tell him every time it wouldn't go the way he thinks it would. Ironically he keeps a gun next to his bed but has a real problem with people carrying a gun on their hip in public for some reason

m&p shield is a really good ccw gun id recommend to anyone. the mod 2.0 m&ps are superior to glock in every way and just as reliable, and the regular m&ps are superior in every way besides the trigger which is about equal. I carry a shield without thumb safety every day and at home I have the full size 5 inch FDE m&p with safety that was submitted for the army modular handgun thing. I originally bought the full size for doing security but man I just fell in love with the m&p. anyone who says glock is better has never spent time on the range with an m&p and are just believing in the meme.

Because they could and you literally have no idea one way or the other. Nobody’s a killer until they are.

also appendix carry rules. for the user who was asking its when you carry your gat up front so you can sit in a car or chair or whatever and still pull it out. it separates the retards who shouldn't CCW from those who should because the former are the ones who are like omg aren't you afraid of shooting your junk off. and of course the answer to that is no because i know how to handle a gun. RETARDS.

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if i cant kill someone with a 5lb 18" pipe wrench then i dont deserve to have a gun.
true story
>be plumber in ghetto
>under house
>crackhead grabs my sawzall with battery and runs off
>crackhead running fast
>mother fucker bitchass punk
>spider crawl like a crackhead from under the house
>chase him
>righteous fury adrenaline
>hum 2Lb aluminum pipe wrench
>nail crackhead from 5ft away
>make him a literal crack-head
>hes bleeding allot
>be christian feel bad call ambulance and police
>be mega christian follow ambulance to hospital and get his name and whereabouts
>find out i caused major trauma to his skull and brain
>be mega catholic and set him up with a room at a catholic charity "homeless house"
>know that i have one dumbass cannon fodder recruit in my upcoming crusade

Nice.

>tfw you look up helsing guns for the first time and realize alucard's are not real

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Can confirm.
M&P>Block
>muh blog 19 reeeeeeee

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mirin those extendos bruv

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We need to insulate ourselves from liability.

I would have wanted to crack that head; but following him to his safe place then showing to Police where he was at is better than all the time, $, and pain you put into it....

We need to insulate ourselves from liability.

We need to insulate ourselves from liability.

I would have wanted to crack that head; but following him to his safe place then showing (((the))) Police where he was at is better than all the time, $, and pain you put into it....

We need to insulate ourselves from liability.

love me some glock 19s with 33rounders.

Unloading (34) 9mm rounds is EXAUSTING!

That would be nice, but it's unrealistic and thus a moot point. There will always be people that won't carry, or at least won't open carry when given the option. Unless you could make it mandatory to be armed when in public, but again, that's unrealistic.

Talks shit but would never does it because he know better...... Reality vs fantasy

never tried the P64 mags from them. i've run some of their stuff in my CZ52 and they seem to be fine.

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