Would you accept or reject instumentality on political and philosophical grounds?

You guys know that this movie is one of the animes that pisses kikes off the most? It incorporates knowledge from the Zohar, The kaballah.

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there is no quick rundown, really. Then ending involves all mankind being turned to tang, souls collected together as one being without individual personalities, which is depicted as warm and blissfull while maintaining individuality is the harsher, but correct option.

I find no reason for not considering a government a construct whose purpose is aiding living life of the individuals forming the community

if the point of life is living, why would I support instrumentality, which plans on making people not live life, but rather something else, as a form of government?

Define instrumentality first, because in the theological sense it's not what you're thinking of after watching EoE - in that sense, no I would not accept it.

Neon Genesis Evangelion, 26 episodes and a film to end it. Got theatrical reboots some years back that are different, three out currently with a supposed fourth i. the works. Evanglion 1.11, 2.22 are okay, 3.33 is shit.

Sure but I only want to merge with 2D anime girls though, not 3DPD.

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I would accept anything that makes me immortal the only true enemy is time with enough time you could figure out how to escape the communist tang and be on your own like 5th dimensional being turn into yourself into an angel

Neon Genesis Evangelion. If you're watching it, first watch the show, then watch the movie "End of Evangelion".
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It's a violent and psychologically horrifying coming-of-age story with a lot of Freudian and Judaeo-Christian aspects in a post-apocalyptic sci-fi/mecha context made by a depressed wreck of a visual genius and it changed anime forever. The characters are all psychologically damaged and a good amount of time is given to exploring the characters as well as the conspiratorial plot and action. There is a lack of real clarity as to what is going on, and the viewer is left to piece a lot of things together. A main theme is the necessarily painful nature of human relationships.

REJECT

THE LORD CREATED EACH SOUL TO BE AN INDIVIDUAL THAT CHOOSES WHO THEY BOND WITH

I would bring oblivion

>can i get a quick rundown
There you go:
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This is actually pretty accurate, even though it's a lulzy video that has nothing to do with it.

Or you could just accept that being on this plane of existence as an individual even for a limited time and having a soul is a far greater option than going back to the prebiotic soup hoping that you'll manage to get out on your own. You won't. Shinji realized the importance of it all, which is why even when the whole world was against him and everyone he loved fucked him over - he still chose to preserve his and their egos. NGE is about love and forgiveness. NGE is a Christian anime.

>god sends monsters or “angels” to end humanity
>humanity reverse-engineers them and disguises them as robots
>succeed defending against angels with a few close calls
>god jacks off like never before and births a twink out of his androgynous cockhole and blesses him with the power to make protag gay(er) AF
>some bullshit
>some more bullshit
>CONGRATULATIONS, SHINJI!
>boss of corporation had the weapon to end humanity embedded in his gloved hand the whole fucking time
>boner for the first time in years and he basically turns the planet’s peoples to Tang and basically the sea is a self-aware dickless armless pacifist
>but it’s a good thing because peace
>everyone except protag because show creator’s projection of his aloneness and suffering
>so deep
>also redheads are fucking crazy
>THE END

Maybe he was so pussy that he couldn't accept it, maybe he felt unworthy of being on the same level as everyone else

>being turned to tang
lel
you're not wrong

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this

i just watched the end of evangelion and i didn't understand it
what happens after the third impact? everyone just turns into somekind of shared consciousness unable to act upon the world?
also, after lilith dies (for whatever reason she does), are shinji and asuka left in a completely empty planet, just waiting for death? or are they supposed to be the new adam and eva? (like in the bible not the angels or whatever they were)

Primordial soup, "the source", call it what you will. But basically humanity went back to what it was before it all started. As for Asuka, brah, there are so many fucking theories... I'm not tackling that one, don't want to divide all of Jow Forums by 0.

Everyone has been integrated into the LCL sea. People who are strong enough can individuate themselves back into existence as with Asuka and Shinji. The LCL sea seems like a state closer to death than to bliss.

Humanity was becoming an ascended being, since we as a collective are basically one of the angels, and Shinji's rejection triggered the transformation to end. Its unclear whether others will emerge from the sea in the end.

Only someone who wanted to fucking kill them self (like the creator of the show did) could come up with instrumentality and try to convince you it’s in any way a good thing.

>instumentality
>What about other famous thinkers?
How bout you learn to spell before acting like a clueless s-oy

Also, the way I understood it is that after Shinji realized the importance of the individual soul (or the ego, semantics really) everyone could be back given enough time, as soon as they'd realize that they did exist at one point and would choose to exist again. It was a bit open ended, but that's how I understood it. Neon Genesis Evangelion is a fucking masterpiece, whether you'll agree with my interpretation of it or not, mean it too. It really activated my almonds as a kid.

Can't even compose a cognitive sentence, wants to lecture us on cosmology

Heh well put.
>violent and psychologically horrifying
What I found disturbing with it is how lighthearted it is half of the time. There's some seriously heavy stuff interspersed with those cute anime scenes with weird, wacky anime character interactions and retarded humor that anime tends to have. Even when they try to make a serious anime, they still have to have those. The tone is all over the place. It's kind of eerie.
It's like there was some conflict among the artists. Some of them trying to do their artsy pantsy psychological stuff, the others trying to make a cool robot show and some others trying to make everything cute.
Pretty sure the show makes a point that it's a bad thing. It's sort of talking directly to otakus about escapism even.

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>Social action, like all action, may be...: (1) instrumentally rational (zweckrational), that is, determined by expectations as to the behavior of objects in the environment and of other human beings; these expectations are used as "conditions" or "means" for the attainment of the actor's own rationally pursued and calculated ends; (2) value-rational (wertrational), that is, determined by a conscious belief in the value for its own sake of some ethical, aesthetic, religious, or other form of behavior, independently of its prospects of success;
I suspect much is lost in translation from the German. I doubt the premise that that rationality and morality are different.

>context: im old
You'll like it.

youtube.com/watch?v=reivWgRmUU8

watching. i notice this had 26 vids, people say its 28 ep. am i good, are 2 of them 2 parters?

the EoE movie is sometimes counted as two episodes by some, not sure why. That might be the case here.

you have some reading comprehension problems brah

>ID: EO/e (...)
End of Evangelion. Brah...

Because it's listed by the author as 25' and 26'

24 episodes. Then the budget cut episodes (25,26) that diverge greatly with the movie End of Evangelion; what should have been the start to begin with. Those final episodes are worth a watch regardless, unless you really, really, REALLY dislike Shinji by the end of the series.

Death and Rebirth is just a clip show cash grab. Ignore it.

A simple problem if you cant keep your ego i could argue that after you die you were never alive, how many lives were lost since the beginning of life and how many of them are completely forgotten like if they were never alive, how is it fair that an infinite complex system like our brains with more synapses than stars in the universe turn into dust, how is that not a waste the chance to be immortal wins above the obvious better choice that is to keep your individualism

NGE is literally "bad end/game over"

There's no way for me to answer that without getting the scripture involved and somehow I don't think you'd appreciate it at the current stage of your life, so I'll pass.

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Why is Shinji such a dysfunctional little pussy?
Throughout the entire series he acts so traumatized as if he was just rescued from an Egyptian government protest, and the only reason given is that his daddy neglected him.
It's the reason I can't see Evangelion as more than a flashy cartoon.

Braaaaaaaaaaap!

He witnessed his mother's 'death' at a young age and got dumped by his Dad until he was needed.

i doubt he could understand what went on that day
plus his mom was treated as merely being 'stuck' in the machine for weeks after that
and even if he did understand it, he's literally catatonic for half the anime, it's unrealistic and it makes him unrelatable

2nd ep, the 'camera' cuts to some dark room full of characters i dont know. they all have big, down turned noses. i wonder if those are the bad guys

I would reject it.
I don't want to be one being with niggers.

Fair enough my fellow shit poster just to remind you the stages come and go full circle

In the beginning he was just a shy kid, it wasn't until after the horrific experiences he had piloting the EVAs and witnessing the trauma of those around him that he starts to emotionally shut down.

Which is very understandable

11/10 next level bait

Evangelion is anti-Semitic and should be banned

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Those guys are basically the top-jews who think like
this user and think they can achive their goal of immortality.

because he's 14 years old. did you have your shit together emotionally and pragmatically at age 14?

I got this get the other day and when I posted about it on another thread I ended up getting triple 7s. Just saying ya'll.

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oh well, maybe my expectations of how a teen boy should behave are different
reminds me of the diary of a child soldier during the siege of Budapest in 1945
the guy was shot while working as a courier and his biggest worry was to not look like a pussy in front of the hot nurses

>i doubt he could understand what went on that day
Yeah well that might be part of the problem.

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That's what the red wave is going to be.

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that's 100% what shinji would be worrying about too

Definitely, reminder that he got pressured into the EVA for the first time by seeing a cute injured girl about to go do it.

Fuck I'm a jew now I've been hating the wrong so long fags, wheres the goym hate board

I assume that when we die we reach a place that's like instrumentality. A place where you're free of ego or identity and are together with everyone else who has died or not been born. That was my interpretation of the ending at least. That Shinji had to decide between living a life of pain or dying and being at peace yet having none of the pleasures and joys of life.

He has to confront some of his psychological issues while he pilots the Eva though. That's what he's afraid of. He doesn't seem particularly afraid to die.

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the eva is just our adult bodies. the series is saying in essence we're all frightened teenagers operating an adult body and trying to navigate the world successfully at risk of suffering and death

I couldn't imagine a worse Hell than losing my sense of individuality.

Yeah so it's an adult body containing their mother's soul that they get into though a liquid-filled womb-like entry plug shaped like a tampon and it's connected to a power source by an umbilical cable WHAT DID THEY MEAN BY THAT?

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based nips telling us things about ourselves we'd all rather forget because we're cool adults who are totally cool all the time

i would reject because i don't want my consciousness merged with a bunch of niggers, chinks, and poos

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