Why did ancient philosopher never wrote anything about whiteness? Is it because it's just a last centuries meme?

Are you sure he didn't mention it in any of his rants about young boy's bodies, or deities?

Wut? Greeks saw Romans as any other barbarian tribe. The first greek of note to find out its not the case was Pyrrhus. Romans were greekaboos and pretty mich straight out shipped tons of sculptures and art from Peloponesus to Rome. The only good part for greeks was that because romans were such a greekboos, they preserved greek culture and it eventually took over when western part of the empire fell. Primitive for greeks was anyone who didnt speek greek

I suspect they had little to no interaction with niggers back then, and only very limited exchange with Asians in a given lifetime.

Travel wasn't as easy as jumping on the next £49 Ryanair flight out of Athens to Timbuktu or Constantinople. It meant weeks/months/years of extremely arduous and dangerous journey.

I do think there were a few comments by various ancient philosophers concerning race, and I recall reading Roman soldier accounts of dealing with Africans during their campaigns there. They made the same observations we do today: they were childlike in nature, dull minded, and lazy. Which really shouldn't come as a surprise.

Back then, by a very large margin, the problem of White people was other White people. Greek philosophers were more concerned about other Greek states than they were about Africans.

of course it's a modern construct
Tacitus back then was saying the Germanic tribes were "like none but themselves", and he was probably just describing southern Germanic tribes, not even Sueiones and iron age Scandinavians as a whole

The concept of "white" arose in America to differentiate between niggers and non-niggers. They needed a word that encompassed all the different ethnicities except the undesirable ones.

Kek look at his nigger nose

Jews introduced the word to get rid of the actual heritage of the different people. Like irish, italian, german, English etc. These are all different people but the jews ruined them by lumping them together.

Greeks considered those that are considered to be 'white' today to be subhumans basically, and in reality they were correct. At least at the time.

The huwhite race is an Amerimutt meme, no sane person would ever associate himself with literal subhumans just because they share the same skin color.
If you take some Nords, put them into the Sahara for 100 generations until their skin is naturally black, would they suddenly stop being Nordic? According to mutt science the answer is yes
Obviously differentiating between Celtic, Germanic, slavic etc and their various subgroups is pointless when you are a Frankenstein's monster of every race under the sun

See also "people of color", good luck finding a Chink outside the US that would put himself in the same group as niggers lol

Tl;dr: Any self respecting European falling for merimutt race "theory" should be gassed

Socrates was known to be uggo as fuck and everybody kept making fun of him about that. Even in dialogues written by plato which were heavily sugarcoated to portray socrates as a good guy

Epicurean Principal Doctrine #6
>In order to obtain security from other people any means of procuring this is a natural good.

Epicurean Principal Doctrine #32
>Those beasts which are incapable of making binding agreements with one another not to inflict nor suffer harm are without either justice or injustice; and likewise those peoples who either could not or would not form binding agreements not to inflict nor suffer harm are without either justice or injustice.

Some peoples are incapable of not chimping out, and genociding every last savage is not only acceptable, but good.

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The word racism didn't exist until the early 20th century

Before the Jews started all that shit, race was thought of as nationality bc nations were mono-ethnic

It’s not a meme Hans. The borders of Europe are not some static entity, they change, and often quite rapidly. Your own country being a great example. You used the example of nordics in the Sahara for generations still being Nordic, but for some magical reason Europeans being in America for generations are no longer european? There has been gene flow throughout Europe, and I do not deny that there are many different ethnicities in Europe, there are many of you who are not as pure as you like to claim. How about the red army raping half of Germany? How about the genetic cluster fuck that is the UK. How about Alsace-Lorraine? Are they celts or Germanic? Zoom out a little bit, are the French Gauls or franks? All the categories within the white race are real and valid, but I think it’s rare to find somebody who perfectly fits in a little box. In the past maybe less so when travel was difficult, but certainly within the past century or two, there has been some blending. Pewdiepie and his Italian girlfriend have a baby, and it’s a pure Nordic Swede according to you, but if they give birth in the US, it’s just another amerimutt I guess, is that how it works? I do not deny that 56% mutts are real, I see them and they’re disgusting, but the attitude of no white people, and that white people is a useless identifier seems to be a misguided idea on here

They just assumed any government would prevent invasion. They didnt feel the need to explain it.

It's a good question. Don't even limit it to the ancients. Even in the Middle Ages, I don't recall reading about racial theories or anything.

Niggers were called Αἰθίοψ (burned face).

There are lots of references in ancient greek works to flat nosed woolly haired Αἰθίοψ. Which vary obviously contrast with the default normal white greeks.

Aristotle mentions a woman from Elis whose child had an Αἰθίοψ father. Plutarch relates a story of a Greek woman who was the great grand-daughter of an Αἰθίοψ. Menander’s reference to those who are far from their homes and without friends-Αἰθίοψ and Scythians- suggests that the Greeks were well acquainted with these two facial stocks. Theophrastus states that the “man of petty ambition” had an Αἰθίοψ slave. One of the pupils of Herodes Atticus was a Negro.

byzantines even settled mideastern christians in Greece. Race wasn't a big thing back then

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Limpieza_de_sangre

It's sort of hard to predict that your descendants are going to be batshit insane.

americans invented whiteness.

it was a black less time

It's colonial slang for European.

They did spoke of races and compared them between each others but obviously not the XIXth century scientific racism. Only retards believe people were raceblind until the xixth century when an evil white man suddenly woke up saying "wtf I hate black people now"
Look up what one of the biggest scholars of the religion of peace thought about black people (Ibn Khaldun).

But Irish-Americans are a real plague. I live in a city in England across from Ireland, to which many Irish people moved, my recent ancestors are a good portion Irish, my accent is heavily influence by Irish, But I'm clearly not Irish. Some mutt though, separated by thousands of miles and hundreds of years, reckons he's just as Irish as mick the potato farmer. It's good to keep your heritage in mind but, as with most things, they take it to far and become a stereotype.

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Also, instead of white say European, normalising the phrase white is how they managed to get black europeans, asian europeans etc. Only By taking back 'European' as an ethnonym can we stop the nonsense.

They did talk about race though. You'd know if you were at all knowledgeable about the culture you've stolen.

Romans weren't Greekaboos they thought they were a bunch of effete homosexuals.

Because white people im europe were literal backward savages until well into the 1000s, civilization spread very slowly and those barbarians were mostly germanic/proto slavic.

Greek and Romans would qualify as shitskins by Jow Forums standards, closer to Persians than germans, and race commentary was focused around them instead of eurocentric.

sick bait.

White is a bullshit idea, instead we must divide according to civilisation or culture sphere. European, East Asian, Middle Eastern, Indian, etc. Too much immigration in short period of time => clash of culture and civilisation.

Whiteness is an amerimutt invention. Ancient philosophers would write about the different races of europe but it wasn't until the amerimutts appeared that the idea of pan europeanism took hold. Basically since the mutts couldn't call themselves irish or british or german or italian or any other european race they decided there was only one european race, the white race. That allowed them to larp as european when in reality they are all mongrels.

Because, my dear children, back then, whiteness was a given.

Niggers never made their own boats. So they couldn't just hop on one and sail here. There were also no commercial airlines or ferries that took them here. And even if they made it here, you could rob and kill them, and (1) you were not punished for it, because they weren't citizens, and (2) people probably even thanked you for averting the danger.

Remember, this was long before law and order, and you were probably killed outright if you wandered into another village and didn't speak their dialect.

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Close, whiteness is a jewish invention to pretend that 'whites' are all racist black haters who only hate people because of their skin color.
Befor 'white' was as wide spread of a thing all of the different caucasoid races hated each other on american soil too.

Yanks.

There's some legitimacy to the idea that many of us are distantly genetically related and of course there is obvious cultural similarity but "europeanism" or "whitism" is full retard. Its a step below globalism.

the greeks literally invented the concept of the atom

What if the philosophers were actually blacks?

>scouser
>not a paddy

what are you doing in germany papadopoulos?

then they'd be philosophizing about how black dick is expensive

"white" is a term created for americans to not feel like mutts.

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They had no real concept of White, just Hellenic and everything else was barbaric.

Because it's bullshit. Bitching about skin color what a waste of time.
They were much smarter than you think back in those times.

It was more about what city you were from since Greek City States hated each other.

The atomism of Demokritos was purely mechanical and representative of the elemental system of the ancient greeks.

Read Plato's Republic, it is essentially whiteness incarnate.

>The Ethiopians stain the world and depict a race of men steeped in darkness; less sun-burnt are the natives of India; the land of Egypt, flooded by the Nile, darkens bodies more mildly owing to the inundation of its fields: it is a country nearer to us and its moderate climate imparts a medium tone.

Manilius, Astronomica 4.724

>The appearance of the inhabitants is also not very different in India and Ethiopia: the southern Indians are rather more like Ethiopians as they are black to look on, and their hair is black; only they are not so snub-nosed or woolly-haired as the Ethiopians; the northern Indians are most like the Egyptians physically.

Arrian, Indica 6.9

>As for the people of India, those in the south are like the Aethiopians in color, although they are like the rest in respect to countenance and hair (for on account of the humidity of the air their hair does not curl), whereas those in the north are like the Egyptians.

Strabo, Geography 15.1.13

>Black people resided not in the Nile valley but in a far land, by the fountain of the sun.

Xenpohanes (Hesoid, works and says, 527-8)

>… the men of Egypt are mostly brown and black with a skinny desiccated look.

Ammianus Marcellinus

> It was a market place to which the Ethiopians bring all the products of their country; and the Egyptians in their turn take them all away and bring to the same spot their own wares of equal value, so bartering what they have got for what they have not. Now the inhabitants of the marches (Nubian/Egyptians border) are not yet fully black but are half-breeds in matter of color, for they are partly not so black as the Ethiopians, yet partly more so than the Egyptians.

Flavius Philostratus: c.170 to c.247,

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The Republic is literally about dealing with multi-culturalism.

We humans, for all of our history, lived by our ethnicity and tribe e.g. "Arab, Roman, Mongol, Persian, Turk, Chinese, Visigoth etc..." There was no such thing as race until some north Europeans with inferiority complex made up that shit. And in the last centuries this has caught up in a lot of parts of the world. Which still suffer because of this bullshit. Sure there are genetic differences and distinctions between human populations. But to believe it to be in the same manner as the made up "race" culture is just bullshit. And please don't bombard me with the skull shape theory, this Victorian era "science" is bullshit too.

I challenge anyone to prove wrong.

Pro tip: you can't.

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the quote you just posted proves yourself wrong, dumb arab

There was nono ethnicity or notion of whiteness like today. However Greeks were quite autistic about ancestry. I.e. Olypmics

He was talking about climate not race dumbo

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American whites are most Anglos and Germans.

The blannda'ing mostly just occurs in big degenerate cities.

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Why did all these Greeks and Romans describe the darker shades of skin and hair of foreigners being different from them?

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Because ancient greeks were black.

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Sure we humans have different features and genetics. But it is not enough to classify someone in category A or category B. Meaning you can't classify everyone in a designated race. Because our differences are much more of a spectrum that changes gradually and subtly from a region to another. So it is not useful to classify people into races unless it is the human race.

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Europeans and Mediterraneans had almost zero contact with subsaharan Africa until the 1500s. From what I can see on Wikipedia there were maybe only 3 trips in antiquity that went far enough south to see the dark skinned subsaharans and two of those trips are doubtful that they ever happened.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/European_exploration_of_Africa#Antiquity

If every single person you ever saw in your life was white or Arab you wouldn't know that dark people existed.

>But it is not enough to classify someone in category A or category B

You can easily classify people into different groups
-Humans
_______Evolutionary Climate
_________MicroClimate
___________Clan/Culture
_____________Immediate Family
_______________Individual

This is accurate.

In America our blacks come from unknown ethnicities. We can only describe them as black because we don't know what tribes they came from. They were sold by the African slave traders who came from dozens of different tribes in Africa. It makes perfect sense to describe a real African as a Nigerian or a Zulu or a Tutsi or a Pygmy. But that doesn't make any sense for the American black person.

It's also way too complicated to identify people correctly by their ethnicity when there are thousands of ethnicities out there. Probably made sense in ancient times when you were bordered by only a handful of different ethnicities but it doesn't make sense in today's world where you can see 3,000 different tribes of people walking in downtown London and not a single white person in sight.

>goldstein

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