ITALY WTF NO! NO! NOOO!

>Germany instituting the Funk plan without panzers to back it up.
The state of impotent Germs

But how will this play out? Will the 5s fight back? how much time before tension gets too high?
It is obvious to me that italians like the strong leader figure and therefore are flocking to salvini but how much a breakage between 5s and Lega will cost us? can we afford it?
I think Salvini is hiding most of his power level and he has to engage in narratives that are not his own. He would like to gtfo every nigger but he has to say that instead he just wants them to be redistributed in europe but as we all know it's just a way o keep the 5s on their side.
I am the first one who would like to see him with absolute majourity and come out as the new Benito but isn't this dangerous fiddling with the 5s, they own the south basically.

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I will vote for lega again and again

This man is a hero and a master

Makes me want to return to italy once ive drained germany of its precious geld

>But how will this play out? Will the 5s fight back? how much time before tension gets too high?
the only thing he needs to do is to let them do the RDC: as soon as terroni will see that it's not a free gibsmedat, M5S will lose a shit tons of votes.

It's a meme party which is composed by every kind of different people with different ideas United only under the flag of anti estabilishment.

Their fan base is possibly even worse than the PD one since their leaders and Beppe Grillo Made these people believe like robots at every kind of thing they say, they succeeded into creating an alternate reality in which only what people hear from 5 stars base is true. Who talks bad about them is either a pd elector or an uniformed monkey.

Every single city governed by them has been plagued by their inexperience (this doesn't imply the mayors are bad and corrupted people but they lack political experience to deal with shady shit and real corruption) and also every single time there's a scandal inside the party they (((suddenly))) stop being transparent and clear and hide informations and stop talking with their electors.

Once their electors realise that they're puppets they'll just do the right thing and vote salvini.

AVE SALVINI

according to the most recent polls, that sadly mean jack shit, the old "centre-right coalition" made up of Salvini, Berlusconi and Meloni would gain the absolute majority of the House, if we were to vote tomorrow. In such case, Salvini would have by large the majority share of the right-wing parliament seats, and could act without having to make deals with a quasi-socialist party who flip-flops their positions on a weekly basis.

I'm finally reaching the point where coming on Jow Forums doesn't depress me anymore. People are waking up everywhere. Good job Italy!

Why do pol in such love with corrupt reactionariy mafiosos? I'm from country which ruler happened to be one of them. And you know, how it's turned out.

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Pic related is the percentage of people who agree with Salvini's immigration policies among the electors of every party

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Nothing.

Yep, he's a political animal, Di Maio is seen as a leader only by a handful of terroni who will ditch him in a second if he fails delivering the gibs, and whenever someone from their party backs down when Salvini&Co display leadership and authority they lose millions of votes in a blink of an eye. Meanwhile today Lega managed to place Borghi and Bagnai as president of the financial reports at the Camera and president of the finances at the Senato, kek.

>demonstrating he can cuck them as much as he wants without consequences making everybody understand who's boss
lol, that's the reason I voted Trump

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There are no honest politicians in this country, we have to choose the best of the worse

Who are the leu scum (I'm guessing liberals)

Meanwhile in Moscow.

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Let's be honest, the polls mean something, this is the trend, and the trend is that the league is so much liked that they could easily take 30% in an election,the 5s should take a 180 degree turn to change that, even if Fdi and Fi get 7% each they would be 100 times better than m5cucks and salvini+giorgia would overpower berlusconi so much that his cuckservatives policies would not matter anything.
The question is wether salvini is trying to get to new elections and what the 5s will do once they realize it

5s can gain something from this situation anyway, we'll see if they can fagocitate and alter the remaining left as the rats jump the sinking PD ship. (Raggi antifa pandering serves to this purpose imho)

Either way, progressivism is dead

The interesting thing is that even the relative majourity of the main leftist party (PD) agrees with salvini.
Only crasso and boldrina are left by now

Yes, LeU means Liberi e uguali (free and equal) and this pretty much explain everything you need to know about it.

We also have the Soros party which is called +Europa (more Europe)...

Will he deliver on his federalist views though?

Is Movimento Libertario a meme party or can it become somewhat serious like The Congress of the New Right and Liberty in Poland?

>the polls mean something, this is the trend,
polls usually differ from election results at time by even 4-5 percentile points, usually because the undecided who voted null at the polls choose their vote literally at the last minute.

>Salvini read the art of deal. I'm sure of it.
The book ghostwritten by a kike who has turned on Trump and is shitting on him now?

> the best of the worse
How the fuck this is best? Italy now way more better place to live than Russia, and believe me it is not because of the people or climat. Corruption is worst thing that could ever be in the government system. And you just want to increase it?

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I think the opposite is happening, a few of the 5s supporters are going back to pd since salvini is boss right now. They gained 1,5 % in this month, not that they are a threat anymore but 5s is bleeding heavily

Total meme

Holy shit! Q predicted this!

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Italy has always been "healthily" corrupted. We always had an amount of it but that didn't mean many of our politicians made a good job and cared about their country, corrupt or not.
Truth be told, the moment in which we really made a disaster and fucked the country was when we tried to root out corruption leaving us with an uncapable political class, a wee bit of corruption is not the end of the world.

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mani_pulite

Depends if they can play the "controlled opposition" game while still being in gov't.

A la "Italy is't going full fash just because We are the last bastion of the left, support us, comrades"

In your opinion, are the polls subject to tampering and bias?

In the 2016 US election, the polls were dramatically and consistently skewed in the Neoliberal’s favor. So much so, that the prediction markets favored Hilary winning by a ratio of 85-15.

Checked. Based Sminem poster. Sminemposting produces gets at a high frequency. Prased be the Thrice Great!

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Lega and center right would drill their ass if they engaged in that narrative. They would try to appeal the same leftist they spent 10 years insulting as heavily as they can people are not so retarded

In italy polls are fairly legitimate, still not accurate since a lot of undecided people take a stance at the last minute but there is not a significant political bias at least in my opinion.
USA polls where ridiculous I remember reading how they were conducted and it was obvious they were rigged

based

the 5star is collaborating with salvini o every step but media depicts him as the sole culprit due to his "celebrity" status
rhose same people forget that the whole party is workingin the same direction
this coesion confises the media joo who tries to create a singe figure to later indicate as THE BOOGIEMAN/fascist/whitecissomething/naaazi/etc

Nice. Thanks for the info.

Yair Netanyahu is self-hating Jew who will assemble an army of self-hating Jews and join us in our fight against Jews and their low-IQ hordes.

I support The Self-Hating Jew State of Israel, i support Self-Hating Jews and i support father of the greatest Self-Hating Jew of all time.

Doesn't he want regionalism back?
He's fucking based.

Conte and Dimaio are clearly getting pissed at many of the things salvini says, and its clear he's hiding part of his power level by now. Medias are biased against both and nobody listens to them anyway in this country so that's not really an argument.

Yeah someone answer this.

No one is going to talk about the proposal about the self defence law? that is a KEY argument that can change the country (in a lot better way) if done properly.

They absolutely are, and they easily reach that shameful level.
And consider they are often maded on insignifican samples (like let's listen 1000 people to know what 40 million voters think about an argument)
what? no xD do you remember the "yes/no" that sent renzi away for example? the result against the polls prediction were pathetic, they pumped a lot the result in favor of renzi to conditionate the opinions.

> a wee bit of corruption is not the end of the world.
You just not understand the amount of corruption this reactionary policies would lead to. In the 90s we was nation full of hope after fall of leftist hell, there was so much potential here, but now russia is literally feodal oil column. Increasing taxes, retirement age only to compensate loses to oligarchy, which lost because of the sanction for action aimed at ensuring so that this corrupt rats remain in power

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Comment section for salt mining guys, have a nice laugh

>repubblica.it/politica/2018/06/20/news/migranti_salvini_conte_vertice_ue-199487241/

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Stephen Miller in this camp?

He has phased out that issue and is going Pan-Italian...it is wise of him because that issue was holding back the Nationalists. Pragmatism>Ideology now and always.

Are you talking about federalismo fiscale? Someone translate this because I don't know the English term.

The answer is yes, and this would kill all the southern Italy which leeches taxes coming from sane regions.

I knew Italia would be the ground zero for the European Reconquista.
I fucking love you Luigis
I hope my pussy governament and people start to follow your lead.
Sieg Heil

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>what? no xD do you remember the "yes/no" that sent renzi away for example? the result against the polls prediction were pathetic, they pumped a lot the result in favor of renzi to conditionate the opinions.

The polls were really accurate into depicting the trend they were not biased, and if they were they were in a neglectable way

>en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_Italian_constitutional_referendum,_2016

It is good that media is focusing on Salvini instead of M5Cuck. The fact of the matter is that the whole issue of stopping the flood is dependent on M5Cuck and their cuck voter base.

Until a few days ago, I thought Salvini and the Lega Nord was based. Then yesterday happened.

Fuck Salvini, fuck the Lega. Assholes, the lot of them.

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Absolutely. Trump is in reality a front man for an alliance between White Nationalists and Self-Hating Jew Nationalists.

Yes, that states or regions should keep taxes proportional to their industry/how much they brought in.

That's based.

+1 for based Fabrizio "the Sandman" Masia, the toppest of Italians pollsmen

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>be white in white country
>yay (((multiculturalism))) isn't it nice
>import millions of niggers
>suddenly everyone hates multiculturalism
what a shock... Americans could have saved you the experiment

>he doesn't want leftist media and Jewish influenced newspaper filtered

>*dabs on Soros' corpse*
NGOs ARE OFICIALLY FUCKED.
shitty translation included.

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Both Salvini and Conti/Di Mayo know that we are on the verge of a civil war, and to diffuse anger and frustration Salvini is playing the bad guy, while Conti/Di Mayo are playing the good guys trying to patch up the international outrage that Salvini is causing.
Salvini/Conti/Di Mayo are all trying to keep the country in one piece and avoid civil war, all are real patriots if you ask me, but Di Mayo and M5S are the weaker link due to inexperience and plain stupidity.
They play bad guy/good guys only because they know that a civil war will end in a France/Germany military occupation of Italy.
Meloni will stay out of government as a plan B, in case Salvini will fail, and try to collect the voters for a possible democratic solution.

Our situation, political, economic and social, is a lot more desperate of what we may think of, if new election will be called, not Salvini, but real fascism will take power (and maybe it will not be a bad thing), a war with EU will be inevitable.

>Intredasting Savona interview, skip the book presentation up to 43:00 when he start to respond to journalists.
youtu.be/frNIEPyIemU

I remember it differently, like prediction in favour of the maggot about 50-60%, and in general i don't find them trustable

Source? I call bs

youtu.be/qWwayaHQTtM

>Yes
>I mean..no
>I mean..maybe?
The absolute state of PD

Toninelli is surprisingly based

Here you go. The ENF consists of the Front National, the Vlaams Block, the FPOe, the Lega Nord and a few other right wingers. They voted FOR Article 13 and Article 11 yesterday in the EU parliament committee. Funnily enough, if the two ENF reps had voted against it and convinced the other far right guys (ECR) to not abstain but vote against it, the censorship proposal would have failed.

But noooo, the ENF (Lega Nord, Front National etc.) of course voted for censorship. Assholes.

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I honestly believe these Lega groupies don't actually care about the wellbeing of Italy.

>>he doesn't want leftist media and Jewish influenced newspaper filtered

That is not how it works. Facebook is the only content sharing platform which will be left. I doubt it is a right wing platform. All right wing wing platforms will have to shut down.

thanks to your Salvini.

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(((they))) are accidentally making content for us again

can't wait for meme war II

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boy sminem cool

You do realize that if a France/ Germany invade us we would unite in no time? Everyone despise them. And I don't think we're on the brink of a civil war at all, I think we're on the verse of an actual war against Germany.People are PISSED, and not at terroni. And if you think that Russia/the USA would not interfere, you're delusional.

>more og
>leddit mongoloid memes dying
>fritz al-mohamed believes the eu is somehow still the good guy
>actually pretending not to be a subtle eu shill
i sure hope based (((eu))) will allow shrek memes again one day xD.

>a civil war will end in a France/Germany military occupation of Italy.

kek thats never going to happen, kikes would lose too much business

NGOs eternaly blocked. Salvini is much better than i expected.

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What the hell are you even talking about? Memes? This is normie bullshit some kids care about.

We are talking about upload filters for anything you post online. Do you even know what an upload filter is?

Yes, and it's a good thing.
Now Grillini can't quit the government because they would lose too much vote, but staying at the government with Salvini will lead the right wing leaning voters of M5S to Salvini

Meme master Salvini honoring the ancestors with 4D chess

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why would you make a photo of your screen instead of making a screenshot?

yep. him and salvini are a nice combo.

Grillini also have the problem of the maximum of two mandates, who lead the party after this government? Dibbah?

>op do not but some nice greentext tldr about the article

Hey we all are millenials here. We do not read and open the links

I forgot about this. What a bunch of idiots.

It will be a "soft" invasion, with police forces from EU sent to "help" our own police to sedate rebellions, and our beloved Mattarella will elect some (((economist))) guy to help Italy against the rising fascist extremists.
No official declaration of war, so no Russia/USA intervention will be authorized.
If this government fail, we should start to prepare for some sort of armed "resistance"

Get your gun loicense before is too late.

That's the "secessionist phase" you're talking about. Federalism (not sure to what degree, but still, giving more autonomy to the regions) is still in his priorities

>Meme master Salvini honoring the ancestors with 4D chess
Savini is trying to ban memes in the EU... so much for the "meme master"

NEWS

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>Italian Interior Minister Matteo Salvini: "now NGO ship goes to Holland!"

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You shilling attempt didn't work yesterday and won't work today. Lega on its own cannot do jack shit since they have a low amount of MEPs. You don't know what their stand was on it, but you assume anyway that they were for it.

Oh, but I don't know in that scenario if the military would help the palace. Isn't done serious fascist in our police and military forces? All it takes is a strong man(stronger than Salvini), or a fuse to make the happening happening. I think we're that close. Granted, I'd prefer not to (ciao Digos!), but I don't have much hope for a pacific resolution if the EU keeps being this retarded.

kys tajik

Yes, the two mandates policy was thought to avoid "carrierismo". Avoid that M5s politicians would become the new "casta" and work in politic for life. But that policy doesn't permit the creation of a leadership. So M5S is "genetically" fucked

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