Should we create a new yugoslavia?

>had a relatively wealthy economy under yugoslavia
They didn't and they live better lives now than before. So stop lying you dirty commie. Them being in yugo is why they were and do not live like Austrians.

Croats like us and the rest of ex-yu should do what Slovakia and Poland have done. We must de-regulate and lower taxes, this way our economy would boom like crazy.

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Fuck off amerifat

>They didn't and they live better lives now than before
They did, plus now all of their young and educated are moving away, that was not the case before.

Plus yugoslavia wasn't communist, it was a more moderate version of socialism.

You are a fucking butthurt guy that didn't realize that you are now a buch of irrelevant shitholes with stagnant economies and literally the worst place to live in europe besides moldova and ukraine and you could've been like switzerland if you wasn't so bindly nationalistic and stupid.

You are all the same shit speaking the same language. This is literally a shame how the same language people can be so eager on killing themselves and be proud of it.

Also by "like Switzerland" i meant that Yugoslavia could've become a confederacy with a high level of autonomy in the regions that would solve the shits like the ethnic cluster in bosnia.

So.... uh, not much love for old yugo then?

How come Polacks speak English on chan, but when they come to my country (vacation) they pretend they don't know/speak it? Every. Goddamn. Fucking. Time.

>They did
No proofs? They didn't, as shown by the graph.

>that was not the case before
Sure it was, brain drain has always been an problem, especially after Tito died and the american gibbs stopped comming.

Yugo was communist in every sense and there is no moderate socialism, it was plain socialism.

>you are now
We were that before. You can see our economy tanking when the american gibbs stop and we all with ussr again.

Stupid stupid wc man. We can't understand the serbs, we can understand slovaks on the other hand, only further showing how we are not the same nor similar with the southerners. Only croats-serbs are similar, the rest are not. Stupid blind commies, thinking you know more about us than we do.

Also, we were created of "free" federations, this is why we could leave and did. We were in theory an confederacy.

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>No proofs? They didn't, as shown by the graph.
gdp directly corresponds to the living standards especially considering that western yugoslavia was heavily industrialized and most of industry had been in yugoslav hands so it was a home-made industry and products, not a german factories you have now that do not even pay taxes there

>brain drain has always been an problem
look at charts showing croatia's population

>We were that before
no yugoslavia was like a normal country before. It was even more respected than countries that currently occupies it, majority of them a total corrupt failures.

>We can't understand the serbs, we can understand slovaks on the other hand

Sure you don't. Don't make me laugh. You all are speaking serbo-croatian (in fact south slavic) and yugoslavia was made the same way as germany - united a tribes that spoke german/yugoslav even if they all spoken in different accents and dialects.

Also:
>We were in theory an confederacy
in reality though you are bunch of conflicted shithole countries with no future that does not work and sleeped the 30 years of possible development instead of developing you brainwashed your kids with your nationalistic shits and how are you so different than serbs, which in fact you are not.

You are to serve us speaking polish, we aint going to speak the english to you.

You wanted to kill yourself with serbs now you clean our hotel rooms

>gdp directly corresponds to the living standards
And they before the crisis had an far better GDP than ever before in yugo. The growth alone after the war was astounding, something Yugo could never provide.

Their fertility rate went down, it's also overpopulated, like much of europe. Oh and blame the welfare state for supporting this.

Implying we weren't an corrupt shithole where only corruption allowed for more income.

Phahaha a pole telling me that. Were I to start speaking slovene in Zagreb, no one would understand me a bit. Were I to do that in Bratislava, it would and did work. Sorry misinformed commie, we are not the same, was it not for austria, we would probably be western slavic.

>implying we would have developed at all in yugo after tito
>implying our GDP was not falling in most SFRs
>implying we did not sing nationalists anti foreign culture songs in yugo school
>implying your words without any proof hold any weight

Kek sore commies always make me laugh. Sad how you retards don't know shit and dare spread these lies to ex-yugo ex-commies. Funny little WC man. Go wanting for max 500€ pay somewhere else.

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At least you are more entertaining than gypsies. Also, didn't croats want to ban you and the czechs?

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They didn't because we feed their inefficient economy that would be kosovo if not us.

>if not us
hahaha heard some german big spenders say "nechste jahre, wir gehen nach Slowenien" after some polacks camped on the road next to our apartments. You really are the beggar tourists. You are ruining their economy if anything, congrats.

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Not sure how since you bring everything from your home. And by ''everything'' I mean even bread.

>And they before the crisis had an far better GDP than ever before in yugo
But who cares about the inneficient economical bubble that artificially inflated their gdp for a while to then come back to the actual level?

Ukraine before 2009 was also better than under soviet union, but it is also not the case anymore.

>Their fertility rate went down, it's also overpopulated, like much of europe

Croatia is literally wasteland is more than 2x times less densely populated than colder northern poland

>Kek sore commies always make me laugh

Yes you all laugh at the state of Bosnia, Serbia or Croatia.

Plus I'm no communist I'm just saying that yugoslavia could've transist itself into a market economy without splitting.

You were like bunch of monkeys released from a cage, as long as the dictatorship was holding you by pussy you were calm but when it was gone, you started killing, robbing and kidnapping and proving one chunk of land is the "chosen" one.

Literally the most stupid region of europe. Too much of turkish genes and albanian cross breeding.

I'm not believing you are slavs.

Is it true that Yugoslavia was actually a decent country? Never really bothered to research it but my dad said it was a lot better than what those countries look like today and it was about the same living standart as the GDR.

Us, means Poles, Czechs, Germans, Austrians, Brits.

Croatia is just a tourism all industry = gone.

Yes it was a very decent country, especially in comparison with PRL or Soviet Union. It was a liberal socialism

>artificially inflated their gdp
But it didn't. American interventionist economic policies backfired and as the entire worlds economy revolves around them, everyone paid the price.
Also, ukraine was btfo by their little civil war.
And how I do love when welfare states are proven disasters as it is in this case.

>wasteland
There you go, now you're getting it. Also a lot of hills that cannot be built upon.

Yugo could never transit into an market economy, it killed people like Kavčič for even suggesting it.

Wasn't it plato that said that dictatorships will hold multiple cultures and democracies will hold homogeneous communities? Well he was spot on, diasporas are ruining our countries and we are keeping them alive via our welfare state, when in yugo they were forced to work or die. Again, the problem is the welfare state, we would flourish was it not for it and yugo would have an stagnant or falling economy.

Also, guess what, we didn't orb or steal from anyone, you can pin that on the southerners, we only left that shithole while we still could and we still got infested by those mongrels in the end, which is costing us dearly.

Also, they aren't slavs, they are pure europeans.

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>liberal socialism
No it wasn't.
It was also better due to american money for staying neutral.

Yugoslavia was decent country and now it could be major player in europe politics and economy. Now it is a bunch of retard and unimportant countries. Good work cucking yourself...

No, fuck off, mutt.
Nobody on the balkans wants another yugo except servs and delusional monkeydonians.
Tito is boiling for the eternity in turkish sperm in hell and all of the idiots and boomers who praise should go there and make him company.

>mfw banned from sea because of some shitposting pole
You're not going to ban us, r-right guys?

They started cracking down on you guys in 2014 and confiscated your sausages and other food items. They probably won't outright ban you tho. But they do hate you you freeload.

Your entire countries were made by the american jews that suggested a dissolution of yugoslavia, you are all jew made countries, that wouldn't exist if it wasn't for them.

> American interventionist economic policies backfired and as the entire worlds economy revolves around them, everyone paid the price.

which proves my words if was a bubble.

>There you go, now you're getting it. Also a lot of hills that cannot be built upon.

Bullshit, the hills are actually small and north croatia is literally a giant plain.

>Yugo could never transit into an market economy, it killed people like Kavčič for even suggesting it.

So it was a case in most of east europe at the time, but the times have changed since then.

>Wasn't it plato that said that dictatorships will hold multiple cultures and democracies will hold homogeneous communities?

Switzerland is everything but a homogenous society. Confederacy works if people are civilized you didn't pass the test.

>Also, guess what, we didn't orb or steal from anyone, you can pin that on the southerners, we only left that shithole while we still could and we still got infested by those mongrels in the end, which is costing us dearly.

I'm talking about yugos in general not the slovenes specifically. Serbs were too busy fighting Croatia and it was like a obstacle separating them from you. If they captured Croatia they would go for you either way.

>Also, they aren't slavs, they are pure europeans.

The pure europeans are basques, not a cluster of turkic people

Blame nato and billybob, checkabro
If Americans were openly told that they were killing Christians on behalf of cjild molesting islamics, it woulldnt ha e happenned.

Exactly. Even if they're all retards, except tiny Slovenia, united they are a much stronger force.
The communism was bad, of course.

So many lies in one single post.

Not really, it influenced they US lower strata wealth. It's Keynesian economics 101. Croatia was not influenced by that bonus and had no gains from it, only losses as the US plunged into debt.

Those hills are not "buildable" terrain due to clay under the soil. Something very common in dinaric area. But hey, you seem to know everything, so tell me more.

Also swiss have cantons, literally countries inside countries. They are pure democracy. Anything socialist cannot be that. Oh and high IQ people pass the test, not jugos.

You forget, croatia entered the war in october 22, when our war was long over. They let us leave, as they only wanted their clay to be returned and to convert the croats into serbs.

Read the pic retard, only the I haplogroup is native to Europe.

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Yes because the economy in 1991 during the worst period was bigger than Austria, Israel and 2x that of Greece

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>It's Keynesian economics 101
So jewish.

>Croatia was not influenced by that bonus and had no gains from it, only losses as the US plunged into debt

Croatia was a basically a result of the american bakers.

>Those hills are not "buildable" terrain due to clay under the soil. Something very common in dinaric area. But hey, you seem to know everything, so tell me more.

This is the shittiest excuse you could find. The Dutch build a land out of nothingness and you can't build because there is a fucking clay underneath, pathetic.

>Also swiss have cantons, literally countries inside countries. They are pure democracy. Anything socialist cannot be that.
Denmark, Sweden, Norway

>You forget, croatia entered the war in october 22, when our war was long over. They let us leave, as they only wanted their clay to be returned and to convert the croats into serbs.

You are still commiting the same error of calling serbs and croatians and you differently. You have to acknowledge that you are serbs and serbs are you. It was your conflict based on irrational nationalism which ruined countries like germany and yugoslavia.

I wouldn't say slovenes are really yugos tho.
They don't speak serbia-Croatian
They're white
They're high iq
Their country is not trash
They are the opposite of the rest of ex yu.

>Croatia was a basically a result of the american bakers
>basically blank words with no references.

Hahaha i know, it's the regulations from yugo, as I said, we must drop them.

The nords are not socialist if that is what you are aiming at. They are welfare states that are going into debt as we speak, they are falling apart
youtube.com/watch?v=zhE_68GMJIk

But we are not serbs, besides plain genetic, cultural and language differences, I don't know how to explain it to you. Same as If I claimed you and gypsies are the same.
And I can say the same for you leaving the ussr, your irrational nationalism ruined your country.

>They don't speak serbia-Croatian
They do, they just pretend they are not, but so are serbs and croatians

>They're white
they are balkan, therefore non-white

>They're high iq
higher, but sill low

>Their country is not trash
yes, but it was always better, it was a rich region of yugoslavia, croatia was rich too, but slumped into endless recession.

>They are the opposite of the rest of ex yu.
not really, they are just catholic yugos.

Nords are very socialist, just because they have a stable market economy does not make their country or societies non-socialist.

Only the eastern retards thought that socialism could be achieved only by the total closing of the economy to the outside world.

>being this retarded
My bad, you're an commie, carry on...

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Also you are not Serbs, nor Serbs are Serb, you are yugoslavians.

butthurt intensifies as hard truth cannot be taken.

Dude Slovenian and Serbian/Croatian are not even close. Serbs and Croats speak exactly the same language, they say a couple things here and there in different accents and officially pretend they speak unique languages.
Slovene is not even close to serbian/Croatian tho.
Also; they don't look like Serbs and Croats do.

>very socialist
untrue
>stable market economy
You seem to not understand that socialism is the opposite of capitalism, they cannot co-exist.

hello titoist.

>truth
>without proofs
Butthurt commies will be butthurt.

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>we are still independent
The ultimate state of turbo cucks that suck American ass for breakfast and lunch.
Yeah independence was good, but we aren't independent if we are in EU and getting nigger Christians from Africa. Fuck you stupid.

Yeah capitalism is the opposite of economy and opposite of production. Name one company that was created after 1991 you Jew that isn't a foreigner company and doesn't trades foreigner products.

>we are still independent
Whom are you citing there Milane? You must be retarded beyond help if you think I ever claimed that, even Zmagos pic should tell you I want out.

Sure, Sistem TV d.o.o.. We also get quite a lot of our own start up companies yearly you retard. Also guess which companies are now in serious debt and pay their workers shit - hint hint, national owned and yugo created companies.

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>untrue
true

>You seem to not understand that socialism is the opposite of capitalism, they cannot co-exist
You seem to not understand there is something like "thrid way" and socio-democracy.

>hello titoist.
He was like the smart one in a cage filled with monkeys.

>Butthurt commies will be butthurt.
You still have no arguments whatsoever so you call me a commie, even though i despise it.

You seem to be forgetting that right wing Christians wrote all open border laws, entered EU, were first member of EU and sold everything in Slovenia.
Christianity and capitalism is the definition of parasitic organism, there hasn't been any value to your scum in thousand years.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Janez_Janša
>Christian democrat
>Janez Janša
>he supported the government's efforts for the integration into EU and NATO.
>November 2004 to November 2008. During the term characterized by over-enthusiasm after joining EU, between 2005 and 2008 the Slovenian banks have seen loan-deposit ratio veering out of control
>President of the European Council 2008

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lojze_Peterle
>Prime Minister of Slovenia from 1990 to 1992, Leader of the Christian Democrats
>In 2002, Peterle became the 13th member of the steering committee of the Convention on the Future of Europe, which drafted the Treaty establishing a Constitution for Europe.

>true
untrue

Third way is not socialism. Welfare is not socialism. Might be leftism, but not socialism, or else the church is socialism incarnate, or at least it was.

He got lazy towards the end and went senile doing noting but rotting. You are only jelly.

>implying you aren't pro commies and raving what could have happen and what nots, that have never happened before nor could they.

>Sistem TV d.o.o..
Do your puny IQ brains even understand the most basic of questions? You are trading 100% foreigner channels with your gay loser private company that uses cables underground build by foreigners or our national telecommunication systems. That's a 100% foreigner company.

>right wing Christians
>SDS
>Socialni demokrati
>right wing
Phahahahaha retarded metelkova trash. They are lefties larping as right wingers. And you are even bigger trash than they are.

So you would have us block all trade and only create our own goods? My oh my, you really are brain dead. Go read up something about economics čefur, you are a waste of our welfare money.
Also note how yugo regulations are strangling new companies and you have to wait up to 2 years to start you own company and them pay more taxes than you can afford.

Also here you nigger, most are slovenian made service providers that work worldwide and make an hefty profit:
sl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gazela_(nagrada)

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What are you talking about? Those are Christian Democrats, like Merkel, not Social Democrats.

>So you would have us block all trade and only create our own goods?
What trade you moron? You aren't trading anything, you are taking bribes and forcing foreigner channels on our lands with their degeneracy bullshit you stupid CHristian degenerate and your gay American/Serbian tubotits channels. Those channels i get for free with my satellite dish, 1000 of them. You are nothing but a little crook parasite. I could pay this if i was stupid to telecom company who build the cables you are using to sell me free channels from foreigners, not creating a single Slovenian channel. So either i pay to cable company or i get the channels with satellite dish. Creating private companies just for sake of growth is the dumbest shit ever. We have underground cables, we send free channels to houses, why would i need a private company intermediary faggot to sell me free channels? You are getting paid by Americans to spread this shit channels across Slovenia. In Yugoslavia we created own channels.

Yes, they work for foreigners worldwide to create American industry with American channels, creating absolutely nothing in Slovenia or anywhere else, just leeching scum that needs to be killed.

>Those are Christian Democrats, like Merkel, not Social Democrats
That is or was NSi with Ljudmila, Janez is an pro-Eu cuckold social democrat. He doesn't even dare bring down the welfare state.

Love how you presume I am christian or the owner of that company or that I like what it offers. Oh and that I wouldn't want to censor it. And note how better people live thanks to capitalism and how we never could live like this in yugo. Was is not for corrupt Miro and the welfare state, we would live like the Swiss.

So you dislike people investing into our country and us getting wages and taxes out of that, while that owner gets hardly anything in return? It's also far less work for the country, meaning less worthless bureaucratic workers, less regulations and taxing of the workers. Also no one besides welfare recipients are leeches that need to be killed. Maybe foreigners that create ethnic tensions where ever they go, they should also be removed, even yugo knew this.

Oh and we are creating new things, look at how our export per year is increasing and how our services sector is booming like hell.

Janez Janša was always anti-Social Democrat, what nonsense are you talking about? He was always with Christian Democrats and Slovenian Democrats and even Social Democrats are anti-Communists, they were the political party running as opposition to Communists during Yugoslavia and Germany and in China...etc. Social Democrats were never Communists, so whatever false propaganda you trying to construct, you don't know anything about politics or history.

Yeah i dislike investing, since investing is stealing and bribery, money created out of thin air in American bank and then they buying our stuff here, while we have to work to create money. A good investor is a dead investor.

He was anti-communist and never anti social democracy. SD is an corrupt meme party, like Janezs'. Like all katolibans were anti-communist, so is janez.

Also being anti-commie does not mean you are right wing or anti leftism. This is why he is much like all parties besides SNS and leftie. SNS being the only party wanting to fuck up the welfare state, ruin the regulations and lower taxes. Now that is right wing, not janez who wants to expand it even.
So sorry, no propaganda here, plain truths.

But it's not stealing or bribery, nor was it created out of thin air. They are also buying our materials to build their companies, paying us for our labor more than anyone else and selling those goods world wide. Look at Denmark, they have so many foreign companies, they are fighting with wage increases to get workers as their country has low taxes and few regulations. How is this not what everyone would want, especially the workers? I'd love to quit my job and work in an company that pays me 2k€ and bonuses for working diligently or singing up for night/weekend shifts, as can be seen in Lek currently, with Swiss owners, who have expanded that company/companies like hell.

If you go against this then you are an maniac that hates the lower class becoming the middle class and living like gods thanks to technological innovations that capitalism in bulk has created.

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He always ran against Social Democrats. Also Social Democrats in Yugoslavia worked by Yugoslavian laws, but they wanted to destroy Yugoslavian laws so they could have Democracy instead of Socialism. Political parties of EU are all the same, since none of them will change any fundamental laws, since first of all they can't even change them, only European Parliament can change the laws. Social Democrats in East Germany at least had the power to terminate laws and change the system to Democracy, so they could unite with West Germany, that was their whole plan, their plan wasn't Communism.

We don't need to build anything for profit, profit doesn't creates anything anywhere, only gives power to few who exploit workers to build them luxury houses. We don't need foreigners for anything, we had nuclear plant in Yugoslavia, we really don't need those inferior in technology and production American and Germans, all their products were always inferior to our. We had 1,5 million people and build iron, nuclear, hidro, aluminium, coal, better food than they have. We don't need 1000 times more money, we need own production, own houses, own nature, own everything, since they can't contribute a single thing here, only steal and that's what they doing, ruining our companies so they can come with their inferior race, culture, food, industry and fuck everything up. We were century ahead of them in just 30 years, they needed 300 years to crawl out of Indian desert.

Both SDS and SD wanted to have democracy, ask Pahor. And SDS being against SD does not mean they are not themselves social democrats, which they are.

But it does help the poor and middle class far more than the rich, look at how our median pay has been going up like crazy ever since yugo. Then everyone had an pay of about 500€, now we have far more and have gained more faster than in yugo.

Hahaha if their products were inferior, then why did no one buy them? Why do we buy and did buy in austria when in yugo german appliances and not gorenje? Why did we buy pampers and not those rubber diapers we had in yugo? You are crazy to shun trade, when it has brought us so much comfort along with less work due to technology.

And they don't steal anything. This is why S.P.s are loving them, hell, people producing sand are getting filthy rich thanks to them. We also do build our own houses etc.. But we cannot do everything ourselves, isolationism brings only poverty, like NK has it due to isolationism, that is how people starve and live in poverty.

Oh and blame the SD and SDS along with idiots like Levica etc.. who invite foreign culture and races, not capitalism. Blame the idiots who vote for them. Blame the leftists for welcoming these problems, the right wingers would have none of it.

We were not ahead in anything, this is why we were destroyed when we opened our market, our shit products were not being sold as the westerners offered far better goods and services. So we adapted and now we are offering better goods and services, both to them and to our own people. Competition creates better quality and life for all, socialism lacked just that, this is why you paid like crazy for heating in yugo and we still are paying like crazy for both gas and utilities like water or electricity.

They all want democracy so they can get their money out of thin air and they banned all Communistic parties:
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Banned_communist_parties
And even if they were legal, they on own can't change the laws, like i said, European Parliament can change laws and even if you get out of EU, you might still not be able to change the laws, since NATO is American army, they watch you and will kill you the second you will want banking system separated from them, like they killed Gaddafi.

And I could swear we had an socialistična partija slovenija option when we voted not long ago.

They get no money out of thin air, that would cause mass inflation, something both you and I along with every right winger is against.

We can change any law if we leave the EU or plain refuse as Orban and Korwin did.

NATO nor America will do nothing if we leave the jewish bankers. Hell, they tried with Syria and now Iran, one of the few without rotschild banks. Oh and yugo could not protect itself against NATO or the USA.

Also i'm off now, so don't bother replying.

why is findland in the butthurt belt?

Inflation is always caused by private industry when they raise prices, like for example your store merchant raising the prices. If politicians think of a project, they get literal free money out of thin air, since they have le vision, so it becomes valuable and trusted. You as individual aren't trusted or valuable so you get lesser loans(less out of thin air money). Now in capitalism inflation isn't stopped by free market, since free market literally means central banks don't regulate inflation, they don't regulate merchants. Central banks don't create inflation, printing of money doesn't creates inflation, only private industry merchants create inflation. Sure we might say that when bank prints more money that means inflation, but in reality they just trade the worth of what they call future investments. Banks can always take money inside and then money is out of circulation, it means money deflation, but not necessary. It's the worth of things that decides raise of prices. Are you worthy or not? Obviously if you got German mark or dollar then you money becomes less worthy, same like if you got foreign brands of cars, your cars become less worthy, since they can't sell. Bank gives bosses money so they hire you, so they pay you that money they got out of thin air.

The war fucked up everything

youtube.com/watch?v=0RRnCnO1Y2c

There's no way a new Yugoslavia would survive. Also, I've always hated the word Yugoslavia. Something like Slavia would have been better.

>t. European mutt, half-Croat, half-Italian

Based aussie