'Ten times cheaper': Russian space company testing iodine rocket engine.
Russian spacecraft manufacturer Energia is developing an electric propulsion rocket engine which runs on ‘pure’ iodine. The new thruster can make rockets smaller, lighter and cheaper. Engineers have patented a method of using iodine for electric-powered spacecraft propulsion, the Energia Space and Rocket Corporation said on Thursday. The company, based in the Moscow region, is the nation’s main builder of space rockets and components for the International Space Station (ISS). It said the idea to use ‘pure’ iodine for space exploration was first proposed in the 90s, but thorough research started only several years ago.
So where is the prototype or proof of concept? All i see is a Soyuz rocket.
Adrian Price
Looks like a spinny fairground ride to me m80
Leo Rogers
cool. it would be nice if both parties got over their differences and quit trolling each other
Levi Robinson
>testing
okay
Carson Nelson
the joke is that rocket tech was dead a decade ago, hypersonic flight is now possible because we (the USA) figured out how to manufacture the components in such a way that they don't melt at speed (it's not even a secret, we're already shitposting about it at every airshow and tech con) you dumbfucks don't even have that PR on your radar. we're so far ahead of everyone else it's hysterical; makes your whole post laughable.
>we're so far ahead of everyone else it's hysterical; SURE YOU ARE. SO STOP BUYING RUSSIAN TECHNOLOGY YOU DUMB FAT FUCKS. see image in that post moron,
Stop comparing SpaceX with very limited lift capability to the mighty powerful Russian technology. RUSSIAN rockets can lift 10 times what pussy SpaceX can.
> Switching to iodine can potentially make the process “ten times cheaper’, while the engine itself will be smaller and less heavy, the company said. Furthermore, xenon-run engines are incapable of long-distance flights, like going to the Moon.
Do you even read your own propaganda you fucking triple nigger?
Jose Nelson
Russia can't even launch satellites without their rockets exploding. This is literally fake news.
Cameron James
WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU RETARDS WASTING IODINE
DUMBEST CAUCAZOIDS EVER HOLY FUCK YOURE GOING TO BE DECIMATED BY OFF PLANETARY FORCES FOR WASTING PRECIOUS ELEMNTS THAT AID IN HUMAN DEVELOPMENT FOR STUPID FUCKING EXPERIMENTS WHEN YOU CAN JUST USE FREE ENERGY ITSELF YOU STUPID BITCH CUMSKIN RETARDED FUCKS
Ethan Murphy
POTENTIALLY >POTENTIALLY POTENTIALLY >POTENTIALLY
HAHAHHAHAHA SL*VSHITS BTFO
Luis Perry
user do you have brain problems?
Lucas Foster
>dumbass doesn't know space isn't real
Yikes
William Sanchez
Dude what.....
Jayden Edwards
>itt: fags who can't into space This isn't a booster engine you dumb fucks. The iodine engine is an exo-atmospheric propusion system looking to replace decades-old xenon-based electric propusion systems. It's a low-thrust, high-specific impulse engine use for orbital maneuvering and deep space propulsion that was proposed ages ago. This is nothing groundbreaking, or new.
Levi Sullivan
Iodine will only replace Xenon rockets, which only produce small thrusts and are ONLY used by satellites and deepspace crafts. Those engines cannot and will never be able to lift cargo to LEO. OP is a fag
>figured out how to manufacture the components in such a way that they don't melt at speed (it's not even a secret not hard. All you gotta do is just use the air as an insulator.
Daniel Gray
bruh just go back to using krokrodil for a fuel source.
Go mother Russia! Only you can save us from liberal/Jewish lunacy.
Jordan Walker
Alex Jones is a Russian agent. He's selling all of his pure crystal iodine X2 to Russia to fuel their rockets. Mueller, get on this!
Dylan Kelly
>the experiment is planned for 2022
Jacob Martin
It's an ION engine similar to the Hall effect thrusters used on satellites. They cen't be used in the atmosphere, but are great propulsion and maneuvering thrusters for satellites and space stations.
Was in cold war due to cross contamination of technical details, is less so now. Launch vehicles and engines do count as advanced weapons technologies for ITAR though which is more of a fucking headache than a safeguard for most things.
Jayden Hill
>iodine powered rocket oops, looks like elon forgot to imnovate and russians got an edge
Ayden Phillips
Well, US bought (a scaled down?) versions of Energia engines, including all of the engine design. For some reason, they couldn't make it, but were continuing to buy them from Russia for Atlas V rockets. I bet many of the engines ideas were used by NASA / SpaceX, but if anything, they could just make those engines themselves with enough effort.
Adam Rodriguez
>it's a russian vaporware thread not on Jow Forums What interesting times
Andrew Davis
America doesn't have any production industry any more. We don't even produce raw materials in a meaningful amount. We buy materials from other states and sell them to Asian sweatshops to turn them into products we buy on credit. We don't even make light bulbs ffs We're not making rockets anytime soon.
Nathaniel King
bot really, we are just super effecient
Dylan Rivera
>electric propulsion rocket engine which runs on ‘pure’ iodine. How is it different from xenon engines on upper stages of satellites? Is it more efficient?
Asher Sanchez
>'Ten times cheaper': Russian space company testing iodine rocket engine. >Ten times cheaper >Russian tech Gonna be honest, this is pretty worrying. Not because they pose a threat necessarily, but because their rockets are probably shoddily constructed trash heaps.
Matthew Bailey
>Build iodine rockets >rockets blast off >turn russia purple
They have documentation, but they didn't set up tooling to make 'em. Whole point of RD-180 engine from American point of view is the fact that Russian engineers built 'em for peanuts, Russian engineers or machinists are cheaper workforce than untrained workforce in western countries, like waitress or janitor for example. It is about saving money and increasing profit margin for Lockheed Martin. Atlas V replacement is already on horizon with Vulcan and there are other alternatives like Delta IV Heavy and Falcon 9 Heavy.
>America doesn't have any production industry any more. Lockheed Martin in 90's decided to use cheaper foreign labor. US has always had domestic alternative for launcher if necessary. Also Ariane 5 is available from a puppet state if necessary.
It is low thrust engine for use in space. It couldn't lift itself from a launch pad. Low thrust and long burn time with low fuel consumption gives a lot of delta v for a probe.
Christopher Jackson
>EAT SH*T ELON MUSK I bet he is actually glad about it. He likes competition it creates better products. That's why he's a genius and Op's a fagget as usual.
Henry Edwards
>rocket engine which runs on ‘pure’ iodine > not running on pure zelyonka тьфy! тьфy нa вac!
. . . it's an alternative to Xenon-working-material electric thrusters for station-keeping and satellite missions, you fucking mongoloids. this isn't the engine that gets you off the ground. this is the engine that keeps you off the ground once you're up there.
Seriously this board shouldn't discuss anything even remotely technical.
James Robinson
We need to make a Chad chlorine rocket.
Elijah Peterson
Test Scheduled in 2022.
Oliver Moore
itt: stupid butthurt americans mad at our countries transformation into shit-tier nation
David Perry
>"""""""""""""in development"""""""""""""""" >"ten times cheaper" without giving any actual numbers *yawn*
Josiah Campbell
So it's just a Hall Effect thruster but they fed it iodine instead of xenon.
Literally fake news. Iodine engines have nothing to do with rockets like Soyuz or Falcon 9. Russian rockets are too expensive for launching commercial satellites and this won't do anything to fix that.
I'd say take it to /sci since this board is full of retards, but after reading your post i can tell you fit right in here.
Gavin Lee
The very reason why commercial operators use Russian rockets is the fact that those are cheap. Russian labor is cheap, but if potential subsidies from western governments are removed when using Russian rocket, it isn't necessarily cheap anymore and insurances may become an issue.
Zachary Perry
>Limited lift capability. Ivan FH can outlift proton 3x and soyuz nearly 10x
Finland knows the deal. This is an ion engine you retards and xenon is used just fine to get probes to mercury and to asteroid belt both locations Slavshit never reached because their rockets are just repurposed ICBMs R7 and Proton are both obsolete.
Luke Lee
Fuck off with this childish bait. You cant use anything but a fuckin hardcore beast of a rocket motor with proper fuel and oxidizer in our atmosphere. This engine only works if you already got to space. The hard part is getting there, shitlord.
