Men Going Their Own Way

Shaming white men for not trying to out-breed cockroaches is the equivalent of bailing out the Titanic with a teaspoon. You can't maintain or increase the population of a race that has a recessive genetic skin trait in a society that shames and ostracizes those with that skin trait who teach their children own-group preference. If by some miracle we were able to reverse the current birth rate trend anytime soon, doing so would only produced a shitload of cucked white people who are still stuck in a system of multicultural indoctrination.

Our people have to be red-pilled first. The logical thing to do is wait for true consequences of multiculturalism to manifest until a majority of whites are awoken to the realization what diversity actually means, unite in defense of our culture, and then exterminate the cockroaches.

Sometimes you have to take a step back to move forward. Just be patient and don't get divorced raped while you wait for the inevitable white unification.

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This, also when you get married you're dependent on the system, gotta be a good boy, gotta keep your head down at work, gotta never say or do anything that will cut off the flow of shekels you need to keep your family going

In the old days, marriage was burdensome but society worked hard to make it tolerable. Now society is against you, so to get married is to put yourself in the hands of a system that doesn't have your interests at heart.

Women aren't by nature terrible, but the system creates perverse incentives for women to totally fuck you over, if you had the option of putting a house and a few hundred thousand dollars in your pocket with a few strokes of a pen, you might be tempted too.

Set your emotions aside and be rational about this. Women are cute and pretty and having a family is a nice idea but unless you're Amish or somehow on the edge of our outside the System it's just not a good idea.

Agreed. I'm not saying that multiculturalism is the ultimate red-pill. I'm saying that the CONSEQUENCES of multiculturalism are the ultimate red-pill.

Only when white flight is no longer possible will our people finally wake up.

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>going MGTOW
>not just taking women's rights away

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Itt: poor WN attempt to control mgtows.

What I fucking hate about you guys is your opiniom towards casual sex
>"W-we are not going to get marry because every woman now is a whore, jews ruined family!
>W-what do you mean I should not support the same reason why I am not marrying now? Don't be stupid, that's not what MGOTW is about"
In the end you are use to nobody, just a leech.
But if you don't have sex (becauaw, you know, you actually respect your beliefs) then I support your kind.

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>then I support your kind.
When did i ever ask for your support?

>A man isn't inherently valuable.
>The only way for a man to become valuable is to transform himself into a tool for other people to use.

You're mentally enslaved and you don't even realize it.

tradcucks are delusional

lol what a bitchass whiny post is that?

hey you fucktard, you "man going your own way", you are not ment to outbreed them, you are ment to cull their numbers.
Capische?
Cull their numbers.
That is what single childless men like you are for, as fighting material or slaves. So whats it gona be? Fighter or slave?

Because believe you me a society that wants to live life and reach the stars will make use of you one way or another.

I would simply pressgang you into a group of marauders that simply has one mission: Kill all the none-whites.

The real power is money anyway and what we have right now is a load of disaffected men who are taking care of their own lives, who are buying up their own homes and avoiding the trap of marriage and fatherhood, would save literally millions not raising a family and who have nothing to spend that money on.

If you want people who can make change you need to control the flow of money, men hording their cash for a rainy day depresses the economy, it keeps it out of womens hands and despite men earning more women spend way more than men, which shows you there's huge swaths of wealth transfer from men to women, and when that runs dry all their spending runs dry.

Keep yourself safe, set up your own home and land and be independent so you don't need to rent from anyone, get some trade skills or a career and climb the corporate ladder, take what you can get and give nothing back. Let the system collapse in on itself while you have a comfy seat to watch the whole thing implode.

You have no obligation to help a system that literally hates and resents you, and will take your assets and children away at the drop of a hat. If you want to "save" that system you're both cucked AND insane. Whatever is left afterwards, the ashes, maybe something can rise from that again. But that'll be past our time, or job is to watch the decline, like giant fireworks show made just for us.

>the real power is money

no you idiot the real power is numbers in people!
What else is your money for if not paying others to do what the right people would do for you anyways.

and there goes the next one to be pressganged.

mgtow is the epitome of "fuck you" to people like you kek

1000 niggers armed with pistols vs 100 white men armed with assault riffles. Who wins?

Have faith in your own people. If history has proven anything, the white race is incredibly good at warfare.

>Because believe you me a society that wants to live life and reach the stars will make use of you one way or another.
Im waiting
>I would simply pressgang you into..
Attempt at your own peril

yes, its the ultimate "fuck you dad" ideology of being a loner who was failed by everyone and now fails everyone himself.
And thats why ideologies like facism formed to force recruit such people so that their otherwise useless lifes have a meaningfull end at least. You will follow or you will die. You are a "for sure dead man" vs a "maybee dead man".


if you think in confrontations like this you think wrong.

White folks have always been about quality rather than quantity when it comes to reproduction. We have few children but invest more time and effort into raising them. There was never any "white birth-rate replacement levels" problem. That was always just an excuse to bring in Mr Shitskin and family.
Go ahead MGTOW, enjoy being bachelors, some of us have enough kids to cover your lack. A person shouldn't have children unless they really want to anyway, they would do a bad job. Just do me a favour and don't neglect your responsibilities in other areas of family, you may have nephews/nieces or young cousins, assist them. The guidance of a kindly uncle can go a long way if parents are deficient and that uncle can often offer some unique advice and support if he's not tied down himself.
This is a hard question to solve. There is nothing inherently evil in service. Only the cause it serves matters. I personally am very bigoted when it comes to women, i do not view them as equal "the current generation anyway" and am trying to raise a better version. Yet i feel no greater pleasure in life than simply being a dumb attentive bodyguard dog while my female children roam about the world. Very knightly, very satisfying, very ironic.
Much of a mans life is spent firmly holding the reins, making decisions, enacting progress. Where else to take leisure but in the relinquishing of such burdens.
The best leader, is one who can fill any place that the group needs him to and has no shame or ego to stand in the way of mucking in.

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So im the ultimate weapon and you will somehow force me to do something i dont want do? What if start killing (fertile) white women and children everytime your attempt to force me or kill me fails?

Son... You post this shit everyday. Who broke your heart?

I can respect that. Thank you for contributing to my thread like an adult.

who said you are the ultimate weapon you pissant little incel? You are wormfood we will turn into cannon fodder. As i said its a "for sure dead man" vs a "maybee dead man" Mr schlomostein. You won't kill anyone other then the ones your superior points his finger at.

stop larping.

kill yourself faggot

so if im the poorest quality weapon but good enough against non-whites why havent you used the weapons better than me yet?

and as i said it is "no corpse pile of white woman and children" if you leave me alone vs "for sure a corpse pile" if you fail to kill me or force me after you attempted to

the only ones larping here are the MGTOW incels their unability to do anything with their life is an ideological choice.

They are out of the evolution dead material. So you better make use of that dead material.

your own wives should consider putting poison in your food if they dont like the odds of your retarded plans

yes you are a very poor quality weapon and we won't use better weapons not untill we need to use them up. Useless little incels like you get weaponized not just to get used as weapon but also to get dispersed of. So maybee in the end you are a warhero or dead. Thats modus operandi of human societies since there is such a thing as society.

so now the incel who hates women hopes a woman will act in his favor by stabbing the ones in the back that would end his pathetic existence either by death or glory?

Stacey will still fuck Chad; don't get scammed by White (Knight) Nationalism you useless morons

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It is just common sense.
Life is a story about a child growing up. It requires, to make a good tale "person", that all the correct characters be present in order to shape the main protagonist and lift him/her from normality.
The "bachelor uncle/brother" is certainly one of the members of the cast, whose scripted budget, lack of dependents, and neutral position and interesting lifestyle, give him the highest potential to alter the mental and physical state of the young relative he interacts with.

I have seen this in much classical historical literature. Sherlock Holmes for example, is a very prominent example of the bachelor in enduring western fiction. MGTOW is canon for people of light.

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for the amount of bitching about white genocide going on it would appear that you need to use those weapons kek, also if you want me dead just use them on me too (you better not fail).

Not having a wife and children enabled me to save my money and create a very profitable business. I employ many white fathers. Furthermore, I have donated sperm to several sperm banks, sperm that is considered desirable due to my height and college credentials.

If you enjoy reading, read this.

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>so now the incel who hates women hopes a woman will act in his favor
No, i would have them act in their favor, they will need that poison for themselves otherwise before i get to them.

Nothing is inherently valuable. Take the nihil pill.

>Nihilism is inherently valuable

Fucking idiot.

MGTOW IS A FUCKNG PSYOP.
THIS HAS BEEN KNOWN FOR MANY MONTHS.
WHITES MUST BREED.
ANYTHING SUGGESTING OTHERWISE IS BULLSHIT.

This. The blackpill is freedom. Go full Cynic and crush bullshit wherever you find it.

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You won't get to anyone because youre a loner and a loser and don't have the means or courage to act by yourself against an organized body of society. Best losers like you can do is to drive a truck in some pedestrians where you won't find white women and children.

congrats for being a semen donating drone.
You give money and cum to Moloch. Youre a real hero you are.

no seriously what you describe is dreadfull.

like i said im waiting for your attempt to make me a fighter or a slave or a corpse or whatever and we will see what happens then, you should have already done that by the way you are trying to project the situation

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>the blackpill is valuable
>freedom is valuable
>going Cynic is valuable
>crushing bullshit is valuable
>nihilists are intellectually superior because we find value in not valuing anything

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Going MGTOW is the equivalent of taking business advice from a man with serial bankruptcies. Mgtow is for loser by losers.

He's larping as a person with authority. People don't fantasize about what they already have, so he clearly has none.

>bailing out the Titanic with a teaspoon.

Precisely. Glad someone else finally gets it.

How many serious long term relationships have you been in? What was the relationship like, what goals, and interests did you share? Why did the relationship end? What did you argue about the most? What is/was the social class, education level, and employment level of both you?

dont care if its a larp or not

>not fucking enough roasties to realize they are all full of shit
Oh you poor incel

>confuses inherent with personal value
>calls others smolbrained

>How many serious long term relationships have you been in? What was the relationship like, what goals, and interests did you share? Why did the relationship end? What did you argue about the most?
none
>What is/was the social class, education level, and employment level of both you?
near homeless college dropout semi-neet

way to early for that now. For now we watch and enjoy the show. Untill its time you will be old anyway and regred wasting your life. No one needs to force you then anymore anyway.

Your bullshit argumentation makes no sense.

kek

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Don't make assumptions because I'm going to take everysingle one apart with the following sentences.
I have a great relationship with the best woman on the planet. She is from a rich Scandinavian country and she quit everything (well paid job, friends, and family) to move to me and marry me when I was not in a good financial position. On top of that, I became seriously rich by marrying her. I could live comfortably off interest for life now. Not that I care about that, just mentioning it since you faggots only care about money and are scared of losing it.
This was a while ago, we have kids now and she is a happy fulltime mother.

You will never be as happy and fulfiled as me. You don't have the attitude for starters.

I'll answer some of those questions.

I'm 43 years old. I had seven long-term girlfriends before I became MGTOW - three in high school, two during college and two after college. The longest relationship was nearly five years. I became MGTOW before I even knew it was a thing due to a realization after a pregnancy scare, when my last girlfriend faked a pregnancy to manipulate me into proposing marriage to her immediately after my first business became successful and I started making a lot of money.
>she told one of her friends that she faked the pregnancy and it got back to me

I now live the life of a bachelor and I intend to do so either for the rest of my life or until the law changes in such a way as to protect me from being financially raped by divorce and family court.

So mgtow is something you've grabbed onto to give some meaning to your miserable life.

>not just taking women's rights away
Tell me how that's working out for you

>- three in high school, two during college and two after college.

LOL
you SUCK at relationships

am i suppose to believe if your story is true at all that it was all these 7 girls were the wrong one?

Its you. Youre a useless piece of shit and to provide tax money for big gov is everything you are good for.

Haha!

What a fucked up story.

what else did you expect.

MGTOW IS A CHAD PLAN TO EXTERMINATE ALL INCELS

DON'T LISTEN ANONS

BIG WORLD WIDE INCEL REBELLION SOON

>Tell me how that's working out for you

Women in germany afraid of going to work
Women in germany afraid of going out alone at sundown
Women in germany who hang around with nigs and dune coons get raped and murdered
Women in germany rather stay at home with their chad BF shuting their dumb mouths now

works out good so far. Promissing potential here.

(You)

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no m8, i already have meaning in my miserable life, mgtow just comes naturally to me

no m8, i already have meaning in my miserable life, mgtow just comes naturally to me

Seems like a bizarre response, to adopt some ideological lifestyle, because of one failed relationship. What were you like, did you love each other and both feel like you wanted to be together and have a family?
Sounds like you were just keeping women around without wanting to do anything serious with your life.

>this guy called me out on my bullshit so i show some total unrelated clip of Merkel - Checkmate!

the only ones who buy your sperm are fat antifa femenists who make cum cocktails because they read it in VICE magazin.

Anyone can rise from the ashes to reach some modicum of satisfaction in life. If you aren't from Africa or some third world shithole, that applies even more.

Grave digger - Warrior's revenge

confirmed for illiterate

MGTOW isn't the answer, shunning whores and not settling for anything less than a traditional woman is.

Don't fuck whores, don't give them any attention except scorn.

i'm phone posting as fast as possible

>MGTOW isn't the answer
Whats the question?

>tradcon fantasies

that train left station long ago for 90% of these incel losers this is not and was never an option.

The best use you can make for them is like the moslems do it by weaponizing their incels.

There is no answer, that's the answer.
You take some things that help you enjoy your existence, ignore the rest as much as you can, and run with it.
With a bit of luck it will work out close to how you wanted.

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lol look at this little faggot

refuses to get weaponized so he sits in his shitty flat and thinks thats his big revenge on the world listening to gay ass larp metal.

fuck off with your calming pats

yeah "we need more leasons from this anonymous spicc barbarosa to feel better about our own shit lifes"

you pathetic vermin.

im waiting for you to come and try to weaponize me user

>please take care of me user
sounds like you think this is some process where you can imagine a father figure into you faggot.

>Sounds like you were just keeping women around without wanting to do anything serious with your life.
Here I meant relationship wise, not with your business or other aspects of your life.
From what you've told me it looks like you didn't trust each other. You were not clear on what you wanted from each other and had no common vision of a future. And you seem like you're a bit too obsessed with money/materialism and what you can get from others, instead of what you can give to someone else. Not surprising since you're a yank.
Though I notice this with all the mgtow/pua people online.

>please take care of me user
what the fuck? i said come and try.

>barbarosa
How could you possibly know his name and ethnicity within 2 minutes of me posting that video? His YouTube name is bar bar. It's almost as if you've watched a lot of MGTOW videos and are so familiar with him you recognized his voice nearly instantly.
Now why would you watch that many MGTOW videos?
Having trouble with women, are we?

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I only sniff vagina if there is coke on it. Can I be mgtow?

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Absolute Chad.

Artificial wombs will make women obsolete for reproduction purposes.

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>women in Germany still vote for Merkel
Good job, Kevin

Is that what you actually think is happening? Kek

Don't interrupt his LARP, that's all that he has in his shithole of a country

>the persons on the image are black

cause everyone knows what fucking frauds and phonies these people are and thats why everyone is laughing at your dumb shit.

thats what a naughty unsupervised boy says when he wants attention from dad.

doesn't matter what they vote for. I voted for Merkel myself since she realy fucks shit up and its great.

>shithole of a country
>uses memeflag

i smell shame and jewishness

>dodges the question

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How to fix women

Most likely not.
Most men would want to see their woman carry their baby. It changes you as a man to know that your woman and your child inside her are yours to protect. An artificial womb will not give you that experience, which is a defining male experience.

It is an option, but not locally. Snatching up a trad wife from a 3rd world nation is surprisingly easy.

Gotta work for it though.

ok mommy kek

not my question

This is pretty typical lol. Besides the odd divorcee most Mgtow/MRA types don't have much real world experiences with females. Mgtow is basically just Incel + extra delusion, at east the incels don't put a spin on their inability to succeed with women.

there is no question here. Its like if i ask if you still fuck dogs.
That shit is on youtube for years now do you think people wouldn't know what certain trends are. MGTOW was a pathetic trend but it documented itself along the way.