Common Sense Gun Reforms

So you want to use violence and coercion to forcefully put people into jail for doing
something that does not harm to anyone else? For anyone and/or making an inanimate object?

Yah, you're a fucking fascist. Fuck you.

We don't live in Switzerland, so not an argument.

Common sense gun reform:
Since banning citizens from bearing arms is inherently unconstitutional, repeal all gun laws.

>21
Kind of agree.
>Universal background check
Agree if it didn't take nearly a month to complete and have a high chance to confuse you with a serial child rapist who's halfway across the country
>Waiting period
CAN SOMEONE FUCKING EXPLAIN TO ME WTF THE POINT OF A WAITING PERIOD IS!?
>High cap mag ban
High cap mags are unwieldy and as far as I'm aware that mong in the LV shooting was the only one to use them
>Bump stock ban
Bump stocks are horrible for accuracy and uncomfortable to use. This is reactionary logic.
>Firearm safety course
Agreed
>Psychological exam
No and never. 95% of Psychologists would
1. Charge $500 for a 5 minute exam
2. Declare ANYONE of any right wing ideology as mentally ill

You still have to explain why it's not viable to emulate swiss gun laws here in America.

>Must be 21 to purchase a firearm
Should be 25-26 imo. Only people with fully developed brains should have the responsibility. We let people into the army at 18 because they make effective killing machines, not because they are able to make good moral choices.
>Mandatory universal background check
Sure.
>Mandatory three day waiting period
>High capacity magazine ban
Gonna be a bitch to enforce. Depends on the details, but probably worthwhile.
>Bump stock ban
>Must pass a firearm safety course
>Must pass a psychological exam.
ok

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

Not one inch. Burn anti-gun advocates alive.

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We. Are. Not. Swiss.

SHALL

>shall
>not
>be
>infringed

Tell Brock that the lawsuit will allow discovery, and his whole operation will have been found to have violated multiple campaign finance laws. He can try to churn up outrage to distract from it, but he's going down.

I don't understand the point of high capacity magazine restrictions. You can reload significantly faster than someone will be able to realise you're reloading and be able to do something about it, and large drum magazines are notorious for having feeding issues.

That's not a valid argument though. We have many similar laws to Switzerland already. For example, murder and theft are illegal. Why are those okay to copy if we aren't Swiss?

Shall
Not

>Mexican-American War 2.0
>Gun Control
right on dude! breath that crack pipe rip in and hold it

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Suck a dick. The only reform necessary is to repeal all laws limiting the second amendment.

it's a feel good fix, so people can say they did something even though it's been shown that it barely slows shooters down.

Unironically our gun problem is a drug problem, but good luck getting the multibillion dollar pharmaceutical industry to stop demonizing a much smaller industry with far less political and media clout.

>Must be 21 to purchase a firearm
If 18-20 year olds can't be trusted to own a gun than they can't be trusted to vote.
>Mandatory universal background check
They already call the FBI every time someone buys a gun.
>Mandatory three day waiting period
Shootings on Monday instead of Friday now!
>High capacity magazine ban
Impossible to regulate
>Bump stock ban
If there is x amount of bullets fired, and y is the amount of seconds it takes to fire them, the higher x/y is, the less accurate the bullets become
>Must pass a firearm safety course
"I'm your teacher Mr Kikenberg"
>Must pass a psychological exam
"Doctor Nosenstein will now see you Cletus"

None. Fuck off lefty faggot. I won’t give an inch.

NOT

Quoting the amendment is not an argument. I think circumstances have changed enough since our founding that a bit of infringement is warranted. Nobody is seriously threatening our lives or freedom at the moment, so I think we can compromise a bit to keep guns out of the hands of the crazy mass murderers.

if the founding fathers of usa were still alive they would advocate for every citizen to be able to purchase tanks drones and all other sorts of self protection devices, bastardizing the first ammendment is silly
have it or dont

b8

The founders wrote that the people should always have the means to overthrow the government.

>Nobody is seriously threatening our lives or freedom at the moment

im-fucking-plying

>Must be 21 to purchase a firearm
many states already do this for handguns
>Mandatory universal background check
Already in place
>Mandatory three day waiting period
Already in place in some states
>High capacity magazine ban
why?
>Bump stock ban
why?
>Must pass a firearm safety course
These classes are offered already, and shouldn't be the gateway to firearm ownership.
>Must pass a psychological exam.
why?

If youre old enough to die in a war, you're old enough to buy a gun.

wait untill 21 to own a prostitute gun

>The founders wrote that the people should always have the means to overthrow the government.
Now consider how many effective anti-government movements of the last 70 years have been non-violent. We don't need guns to overthrow the government anymore.

It's practically never a problem with the weapon itself.
I'm one of the few Aussies who doesn't believe in a weapons ban, and get triggered every single time people bring up another shooting and says "why haven't they been banned yet".
It breaks the news over here whenever it happens.

Firearm ownership is a duty, not a right. Fuck off with your reforms jew.

No guns for niggers or shitskins

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is a duty, not a privilege*

You do realize you can emulate another country's laws if they have a good idea about how to do something, right?

>Must be 21 to purchase a firearm
Hurr durr you can be 18 and join the army but you can't buy a gun until you are 21. You are a fucking idiot there is no logic in this whatsoever.

>Mandatory universal background check
We already do this. This is fine since it just makes it slightly harder for criminals to obtain weapons. Also prevents the mentally ill temporarily. That being said though criminals will still get them if they want them through the black market.

>Mandatory three day waiting period
Only okay if they are doing that to do a background check.

>High capacity magazine ban
No logic whatsoever in banning these. Definitely not common sense.

>Bump stock ban
Stupid to ban these too.

>Must pass a firearm safety course
This is reasonable. I always tell people who are going to get guns to take a safety course.

>Must pass a psychological exam.
Not really needed unless they have a history of mental illness or criminal activity.

We don't have a government that can be trusted to enforce common sense regulations without using them as weapons against the white populace and as tool to promote Jewish interests. Until such time the Jewish influence on the American government is removed no right-thinking white man could ever possibly be in favor of any increased gun regulation whatsoever.

Death to tyrants.

So you're saying universal Healthcare won't work in America?

You got it baby.

>Must be 21 to purchase a firearm
Must be age of majority

>Mandatory universal background check
Already in place

>Mandatory three day waiting period
Why? Do you honestly think this will make a difference when pretty much every mass shooter has owned their firearm for more than 3 days?

>High capacity magazine ban
Fuck you. Cuck.

>Bump stock ban
Look at you being all retarded and populist and shit.

>Must pass a firearm safety course
Maybe an alright legislation but it depends on how it's written and implemented.

>Must pass a psychological exam.
Fuck no. This will just result in people not being leftist progressives being deemed as mentally unsuitable to own guns.

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Most of those are idiotic OP, not even applied in Canada

So because we aren't being threatened at the moment, we should just give up our defenses? Are you actually retarded? In medieval times, did kings tear down their fortresses when they weren't at war because "well I guess we don't need them right now so that means we never will in the future"? No, because that is a completely and utterly idiotic thing to do. Please, go outside, lay in the middle of a busy highway, and remove yourself from the gene pool.

when?

>get rid of every single "assault weapons" ban as it focuses on cosmetics that libs actually think affect performance

In Canada we have a harder time getting ineffective low caliber weapons that "look like military weapons in movies" then actual high caliber weapons used in militaries lol. This is the state of leftists

>NFA gets repealed
>no age restriction on any gun
>ATF gets disbanded
>money saved from ATF gets used to buy every American a keg of beer,a pack of cigars, and a full-auto AR-15

Probably fake info as everything in /pol is

If someone is willing to sell, you can own it. If you can buy it, you can have it. If you can make it, you deserve it. That's common sense.

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Federal law is that you must be 21 to purchase a hand gun. Not "many states" all of them.
The thing I dont get is the mandatory background check like you said. You go through the FBI. What's better than that? Oh, you mean when two private citizens are buying/selling guns on their front yard, in bum-fuck Alabama. How are you going to legitimately be able to enforce that?
Enforce most of these request, honestly?

The ATF is an evil organization that is obsessed with guns. They often kill dogs and harass American citizens, and have been known to break into people's homes and steal their guns, sometimes shooting their animals.
We need to put a stop to this evil organization by deatroying it and sending every member to jail

You think that if the US govt ever became legit tyrranical, they'd just give up power because people asked nicely? What's it like to live in imagination land?

Ban Democrats from owning guns.

If we need to overthrow the government, we will find a way. Weapons (bombs, guns, etc.) have never been beyond the reach of sufficiently motivated and intelligent people. What I'm saying is that the cost of keeping all of these weapons in terms of innocent lives lost may not worth the gain, which is questionable at this particular moment.

>Buy whatever the fuck you want
>Don't murder people with it

You jest, but in all honesty, if black people weren't allowed to own guns, gun related crime would fall by at least half. God forbid anyone actually address the real internal problems of the black community so a solution can be found though.

>Must pass a firearm safety course
I think what might be good is a short T/F or multiple choice test with purchase to make sure you're not a complete retard.

How about you absolutely go fuck your own mother?

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Hell yeah! I'd vote for that.

If you take these weapons away innocent lives are still lost, more so in fact as legally abiding citizens find themselves unable to protect themselves from criminals wishing to do them harm, and in a world where the most progressive countries try to hide minority and immigrant crime in order to appear less 'bigoted', you cannot trust the police to save you
Ironically it's also blacks that would be hurt the most from gun control since most blacks are unwilling to ever call police

>if black people weren't allowed to own guns, gun related crime would fall by at least half.
You dumb nigger. By definition, they are breaking the law. They will still chimpout with their illegally purchased and obtained firearms.

>Must pass a firearm safety course
>under 18 can purchase a firearm with parent's approval
>give a discount to purchasing a gun if you buy a suppressor in the same purchase
>prior civil service is exempt from firearm safety course if it can be proven that they received an equivalent education from the position they held
>full auto is allowed

>>Must be 21 to purchase a firearm

Failed on the first one. There shouldn't be a magic age where you start having your rights. Rights are rights and they start from birth. Also it's illogical to say that someone can be given a gun by the government and told to go fight America's enemies, but they can't purchase one legally for another three years.

>Mandatory three day waiting period

No, fuck off

>High capacity magazine ban

No, fuck off.

>Must pass a firearm safety course
>Must pass a psychological exam.

No, fuck off

The rest are fine

Underrated post

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>i think
Not an argument
>we don't need them
>crazy mass murderers
You really are fucking retarded, aren't you? I can't believe they still pay for this level of stupidity... Tell your boss you owe him your bluebucks faggot.

>If you take these weapons away innocent lives are still lost
That's a fair point.
>more so in fact as legally abiding citizens find themselves unable to protect themselves from criminals wishing to do them harm
Debatable. You really have to think that there are a lot of criminals going out looking to kill people, instead of just trying to make a quick buck.

The issue in my mind is that we (law-abiding actual or prospective gun owners) seem to be very willing to kill to protect our lives, family, property, etc., so we project that onto our government and fellow citizens. The net result is that our society is quite violent for our level of wealth, and we are quite cynical about the morality of violence.

SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED

>Must pass a psychological exam.
what does this entail?

How about we get people to stop staging mass shooting to demonize guns? I bet the deaths from shooting would drop dramatically then.

I do kind of agree with a safety course, people should learn how that shit works so the media cant scare them with things that aren't exactly true.

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whats the point of a waiting period? you saying I can't plan a murder 3 days ahead?

How about mandatory life in prison/execution for unlawful possession/defaced serial number
Oh wait no that would actually have a measurable effect and disproportionately impact the population segment that does all the gun crime

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Feels good living in a free state. God bless America and god bless the gun show loop hole

So, instead of just keeping our guns and therefore denying the govt the ability to become tyrannical in the first place, you want to ban guns. Which would open up the possibility of that happening thus leading to a second civil war that the American people would be forced to fight with little to no weaponry. I got news for you, as awful as it is that people die from gun violence, exponentially more would die in the above scenario. So yeah, I'm good with some collateral damage here and there if it means that our overall freedom is guaranteed.

Gun deaths will struggle to get lower... considering they only make up 0.004% of all deaths in America a year. 13,000 deaths a year compared to 323 million Americans.

10 day waiting period basically means you can’t get mad, buy a gun, shoot someone that day and day it was a crime of passion
Having a waiting period means if you shoot someone with it then it was most likely premeditated, easier conviction and harsher sentencing

blacks

Doesn't matter how many times you post this thread dickwad, nothing is going to happen. Why don't you ship your ass to Mexico where you can live in a country with strict gun control? I hear it is real safe there. It makes you wonder why so many people risk their lives to come here.

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i agree with all that but make the waiting period longer. i can machine bigger magazines and make bump stops so no biggie

There are 400 million guns in this country. If guns were even half as deadly as you cucks make them out to be, we would have no more room to bury the bodies.

>only people with fully developed brains
careful what you wish for jamal

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OP is the kind of s o y filled faggot that thinks if we make laws they will help. Ask the OP why we don't just make murder illegal.

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> What I'm saying is that the cost of keeping all of these niggers in terms of innocent lives lost may not worth the gain

Imo you should be able to buy full automatic or even howitzers as long as you're thoroughly psychologically evaluated to be stable person.

Common sense gun reform is just to take guns away from blacks

>safety courses
shitlibs will run these courses and disqualify anyone without antifa facial tattoos
if you think I’m 100% joking just look how they’ve infiltrated every other govt institution up to and including literally redit running the FBI’s hillary investigation

oh this copypasta again. sage

The gun show loop hole doesn't even exist.

But free states are indeed awesome

Nice!

>i think
>Not an argument
Let me spell it out for you then, Cletus. When we were founded we had just won our independence by force of arms with the critical assistance of citizen militia, we were surrounded by enemies on all sides, and we had a large and potentially hostile slave population. At the moment, we are surrounded by friendly nations, the entire country is protected by arguably capable law enforcement, and crime is at historic lows (if still high relative to peer nations).

Do we need to let every angsty white boy have an AR-15 to protect his life and freedom? Does that really make America a better place? Really? After the last 10 years I'm really struggling to understand how.

Give it a few more decades. Seems to me like we're degenerating.

Chicago has the strictest gun laws in the country and still top the nation for gun deaths.

You want common sense? Stop blaming guns for a social issue.

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>What I'm saying is that the cost of keeping all of these weapons in terms of innocent lives lost may not worth the gain, which is questionable at this particular moment.

How about alcohol-related deaths? Are all those dead kids worth the gain?

Yeah, how are all those Militia's coming along, faggot?

Until you cunts actually start forming actual, real world, well regulated Militias, your 2A is bullshit. And the whole "MUH 2ND AMENDMENT" argument is irrelevant.

>gun laws
>laws
Fuck off commie