/etm/ - EARTH TO MARS

Welcome to the Earth To Mars General. (previously Mars Independent General)
This thread is dedicated to the discussion of creating a European Colony on Mars, not by direct funding, but through the commercial emigration scheme that will eventually come into play. This is real. This is going to happen. We need you to consider the choice.

>Educational Doc on Terraforming Mars:
youtube.com/watch?v=_50N5QoQoc4
>Space X Interplanetary Transport System:
youtube.com/watch?v=0qo78R_yYFA&t
>"Making Life Interplanetary" by Elon Musk:
youtube.com/watch?v=H7Uyfqi_TE8&t
>BFR Overview
youtu.be/UAkmP00QPJg
>3 Companies Developing Game Changing Technologies
youtube.com/watch?v=8rYqXE51q24

The first Mars Colony is predicted to be established as early as 7 years from now. Very quickly the colony is going to expand, and Elon Musk has made it clear that commercial emigration will come in to play only a few years later. This means the first large influx of settlers over the next 50 years are going to be families who sell their properties on Earth for the ticket. Only people who can afford to move there will be able to.
lets face it - a majority european colony on mars is the only way to truly secure our future.
>Plan:
/etm/ is a new general and a work in progress. feel free to contribute ideas. Essentially, once the colonisation effort becomes commercial, we need to move there.

/etm/
>inb4 space is fake
kys
>inb4 muh economics
kys
>inb4 STOP LARPING
the short term goal of this general is to simply re-inspire each other on the subject of space exploration & colonisation. We hope to promote a new positive attitude towards life on Mars amongst those who value the future of the European peoples.
./The general will be posted a few times a week or a few times a day.

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Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=kmFOBoy2MZ8&
youtube.com/watch?v=S0dqd72ALkQ&
pastebin.com/3Qv9B4r1
wrr.nl/publicaties/verkenningen/2018/05/29/de-nieuwe-verscheidenheid
youtube.com/watch?v=EcFsOF-ULL8
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

>Remember why we fight.
This is definitely not about abandoning the problems we have here on Earth, we believe that the European peoples are not only strong enough to overcome those problems, but are able to dedicate themselves on multiple fronts, Mars is that other front.

>also,
I've changed the name of the general from /mig/ to /etm/. I need to update the general a fair bit, but i've been busy lately - as always, the general continues to be a place on Jow Forums to talk about Mars and other space related topics.

>next thread
Saturday 10pm GMT

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We know you're German, no meme flags.

>Isaac Arthur - "Outward Bound - Colonising Mars"
youtube.com/watch?v=kmFOBoy2MZ8&
>Isaac Arthur - Mars: From science fiction, to science fact
youtube.com/watch?v=S0dqd72ALkQ&
>for anyone who wants a quick profile on Mars
Equatorial Diameter: 6,792 km
Polar Diameter: 6,752 km
Mass: 6.42 x 10^23 kg (10.7% Earth)
Moons: 2 (Phobos & Deimos)
Orbit Distance: 227,943,824 km (1.52 AU)
Orbit Period: 687 days (1.9 years)
Surface Temperature: -153 to 20 °C
First Record: 2nd millennium BC
Recorded By: Egyptian astronomers

>There are signs of liquid water on Mars.
For years Mars has been known to have water in the form of ice. The first signs of trickling water are dark stripes or stains on crater wall and cliffs seen in satellite images. Due to Mars’ atmosphere this water would have to be salty to prevent it from freezing or vaporizing.

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a few interesting words in regards to business opportunities on Mars
>Water Purification/Production
Besides oxygen, of course, the only thing that will be more important on Mars than food will be clean drinking water. Scientists believe that there is water on Mars; however, they are not sure if it’s drinkable. Consequently, if there is water on Mars, someone will need to purify and make it suitable for consumption. If there is no water on Mars, then some really smart people will figure out a cost-effective way to produce H2O from hydrogen and oxygen. Either way, water will be big business on Mars.
>Hospitality and Entertainment
Nobody likes to eat or stay at home all the time, so there will be a need for entertainment, virtual reality centers, hotels, and restaurants of all kinds. If tourism to Mars ever becomes popular (and I think it will,) the need for hospitality and entertainment providers will be huge. As with all other things on Mars, eating out or taking a vacation will probably be expensive. Therefore, for those savvy chefs, hoteliers, and producers that get in on the ground floor, there will absolutely be plenty of money to be made in these industries.
>Construction/Infrastructure
Depending on the environmental concerns and requirements settlers face when they arrive on Mars, it’s hard to tell how construction and infrastructure will need to be approached. One this is certain, though, and that is people will need places to live and work as well as other necessities such as bridges, walkways, and streets (or something similar to streets.)

In the beginning, governments or authorities may handle initial construction projects. Still, I don’t think it will be long thereafter that the private sector will be doing most of the building. Building homes, condos and whatever else on Mars will be expensive and possibly dangerous. Therefore, expect contractors — big and small — to earn good livings in this field.

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>another cut from a different article
there are many potential near-term business opportunities connected with human missions to Mars with significant potential markets for the associated technologies and capabilities required for creating a sustainable human presence on the surface of Mars. These include innovations in life support, agriculture, radiation shielding, energy, on-site resource utilization (aka living off the land), filtration, and many other necessary technologies and capabilities. Many of these technologies would not require the massive level of investment for development that large mission elements like heavy-lift rockets, crew vehicles, propulsion, and habitats require. With the proper stimulus and the necessary entrepreneurial innovators, these technologies could be developed in a competitive manner, and they also likely will have application to improving life on Earth and therefore also have a significant market on Earth—thus making them particularly attractive to entrepreneurs, small businesses, and others.

>more
Whether humans reach Mars through a government effort, a commercial model, or a combination of the two, there are remarkable opportunities that will accompany that journey. These opportunities are not only for discovery but also for innovators, entrepreneurs, and others to create new or better products that contribute to the sustainability of humans on Mars and also benefit people on the planet Earth.

>more
While cosmonauts and astronauts are learning valuable spacefaring skills on the International Space Station — and the U.S. is using virtual reality to train scientists — the majority of work to prepare for interplanetary expeditions is being done on Earth...and where best to field-test equipment and people for the journey to Mars but on some of the planet's most forbidding spots.
Seen from space, the Dhofar Desert is a flat, brown expanse. Few animals or plants survive in the desert expanses of the Arabian Peninsula, where temperatures can top 125 degrees Fahrenheit, or 51 degrees Celsius.
On the eastern edge of a seemingly endless dune is the Oman Mars Base: a giant 2.4-ton inflated habitat surrounded by shipping containers turned into labs and crew quarters. There are no airlocks. The desert's surface resembles Mars so much, it's hard to tell the difference, the types of geomorphology, all the structures, the salt domes, the riverbeds, the wadis, it parallels a lot of what we see on Mars.

Scientists from across the world sent ideas for experiments such as testing a new spacesuit called Aouda, the cutting-edge spacesuit, weighing about 50 kilograms (110 pounds), is called a "personal spaceship" because one can breathe, eat and do hard science inside it. The suit's visor displays maps, communications and sensor data. A blue piece of foam in front of the chin can be used to wipe your nose and mouth.
>Something to consider, for your or your children's future
there will be a huge demand for engineers, medical experts, management "officers" and any sort of cross between those and other fields. So people with that kind of background could secure themselves a bright future on Mars.

Sci fi faggots, nobody is going to mars in the next 150 years.

>interesting read
French 3D-printing company Fabulous has brought together a team of scientists and architects to imagine a bubble-shaped habitat for Mars that can be printed on the red planet.The Sfero house features an internal and external dome, with a protective pocket of water between the two. A single corridor rests on the planet's surface and allows access to the interior, which would have an upper and lower level linked by a spiral staircase.The house would start off as a central drilling rod that burrows several metres into the planet's soil to extend two robotic arms, which would harvest materials to be used for 3D-printing the habitat's internal and external dome-shaped shells.The spherical shape has been designed to offer high resistance to Mars' low atmospheric density.The design aims to use the red planet's abundance of iron oxide – discovered in dust samples and rocks brought back by NASA's Pathfinder rovers – which would form the raw material for 3D printing. The powdered iron particles would then be fused together by laser, and the levels of the habitat printed layer by layer.
The arms would also seek out permafrost – soil that has been at or below freezing for at least two years – to be melted and used as a 30-centimetre-wide water pocket in between the two shells to protect against solar radiation.
Fabulous founder Arnault Coulet believes the water layer could be a "permanent psychological reminder of the main element of the mother planet – water constituting a sort of protective amniotic fluid for humans."

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btw... unrelated, ive seen /sig/ moved to Jow Forums by mods a few times, so here's a little inspiration for you all
>REMEMBER SELF IMPROVEMENT
No matter who you are, you can improve your life. Take control. Move forward. Dreams keeps us alive, fighting for them makes us feel alive.
Self Improvement information here pastebin.com/3Qv9B4r1

>DUTCH NATION-WIDE INVESTIGATION CONFIRMS: DIVERSITY DESTROYS SOCIAL COHESION
The Scientific Council for Government Policy released a scientific report this which shows that ethnic diversity negatively impacts social cohesion.
Full report (in Dutch) here: wrr.nl/publicaties/verkenningen/2018/05/29/de-nieuwe-verscheidenheid
Translated from the full report (page 87): Our analysis shows that, when a neighbourhood becomes more diverse, it becomes less socially cohesive. This result is significant. Social-economic factors have been taken into account. Although the social-economic status of a neighbourhood impacts cohesion, the impact of diversity on social cohesion IS LARGER THAN THE IMPACT OF SOCIAL ECONOMIC STATUS.

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>Challenges of Colonizing Mars!
youtube.com/watch?v=EcFsOF-ULL8

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Nice thread OP.
I really like the concept of the Aldrin cycler, it provides a good way to have regular flights to/from mars with a relatively easy to ensamble plataform in space. I think it's a good complement to the SpaceX plans.

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This sounds like a clever scheme to kill a few thousand whites.....

Aldrin Cylinder ? I only know about the O'neill Cylinder... i'm assuming they're similar ?
a clever scheme to kill a few million whites would be to stay on earth and wait for some catastrophe to happen

bump. it's too early to let thread die

maybe he is sending the jews first... nobody can hear you kvetch in space

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Not really, the concept is basically a mobile space station or group of them in orbit between mars and the earth, like a bus system coming and going constantly with each ship taking 2 years. As I said, a good compliment to guarantee a large amount of supplies or people per trip on regular bases once you have the colony functioning.

haha

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>in orbit between mars and the earth
that actually seems like a pretty good idea.... especially if it had its own artificial gravity it would definitely make for a nice place to take a break from the zero g environment of the spaceship.

Oh yes, you can see it in The Martian, pretty much what you said.

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