and former intelligence officials say the implications could be 'catastrophic'
>The Justice Department has turned over additional Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act, or FISA, records related to the Russia investigation to House Republicans.
>Asked about the development, one former senior FBI official replied that the national-security implications could be "catastrophic."
>Republicans say the DOJ has not responded to all their subpoena requests and indicated a willingness to hold deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein in contempt of Congress if the department does not comply.
>The Department of Justice (DOJ) has turned over additional records of President Donald Trump's associates related to the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) to House Republicans, according to two congressional sources with direct knowledge of the matter.
>The surveillance of Trump associates was conducted as part of the department's Russia-related investigation, which is examining whether members of the Trump campaign colluded with Moscow to tilt the 2016 presidential election in his favor.
>The news was first reported by CNN, which said the DOJ also provided lawmakers with other FBI records related to the Russia probe and the investigation into Hillary Clinton's use of a private email server when she was secretary of state.
>The move comes as House Republicans and the White House continue pressuring the DOJ and deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein to comply with subpoena requests for classified information.
>While Republicans say the requests are part of their congressional oversight responsibility, Democrats accuse their colleagues across the aisle of using classified information to play politics and compromise the Russia investigation.
>Leading the Republican charge are House Judiciary Chairman Bob Goodlatte, House Intelligence Chairman Devin Nunes, and House Oversight Chairman Trey Gowdy.
>Nunes has been under the spotlight since last year, when it surfaced that he traveled to the White House to brief administration officials on classified information about the Russia probe before informing his colleagues on the panel. He has since been conducting a separate investigation into what he characterizes as surveillance abuses by the DOJ and FBI.
>Earlier this year, Nunes drew scrutiny for publicly disclosing FISA information about the former Trump campaign aide Carter Page. And in April, the DOJ turned over the document that first prompted the FBI to launch the Russia probe to House Republicans.
>Asked about lawmakers obtaining additional FISA records related to the Russia investigation, one former senior FBI official said it was "hard to put into words" how "damaging it could to be to national security if details about the US's most sensitive intelligence-gathering process leaked out."
>"It would be catastrophic," they added. "Look at the damage that's already been done."
>The immediate concern, said former CIA operative Glenn Carle, is that turning over information related to FISA records could compromise sources and methods.
>"Congressional oversight is not operational control, it's policy control," Carle said. "So it's not really appropriate for an oversight body and its members to have detailed knowledge of sources and methods, because they are not trained in how to handle that."
>Republicans said Friday that the DOJ still has not complied with all their requests and indicated that they would be open to using all tools at their disposal to compel document production.
>Addressing the matter this week, House Speaker Paul Ryan said "we expect compliance." Ryan met with Goodlatte, Nunes, and Gowdy on Friday morning, CNN reported.
>Nunes said there would be "hell to pay" if the DOJ does not comply with all document requests.
>A spokesperson for GOP Rep. Mark Meadows, the head of the ultra-conservative House Freedom Caucus, said in a statement to Business Insider that "if the Deputy Attorney General continues withholding documents and denying Congressional requests for oversight, there need to be consequences."
>"Contempt is certainly an option on the table," the spokesperson added.
Cooper Stewart
>Carle said it was telling that subpoena and document requests for intelligence related to the Russia and Clinton investigations have come from the Republican side of the aisle.
>"If something is coming from an entire committee, rather than a party, then the government is speaking through that committee," he said. "If it's coming from one party, that indicates political bias and could skew the outcome and fly in the face of the oversight function itself."
>Meanwhile, Republican threats to penalize Rosenstein have attracted significant media coverage and speculation about what it could mean for the DOJ if its No. 2 official is held in contempt.
>In all likelihood, it would mean very little.
>When either chamber of Congress votes to hold an official in contempt, the case goes to the US attorney's office in Washington, DC for criminal prosecution.
>In other words, if the House votes to hold the deputy attorney general in contempt, "they'd essentially be referring Rosenstein to himself for prosecution," said Jeffrey Cramer, a longtime former federal prosecutor who spent 12 years at the DOJ.
>In the event that Rosenstein is referred to the DOJ for prosecution and the department does not pursue the case — which, in all likelihood, it won't — then congressional Republicans could pursue civil charges against him.
>But as of now, Cramer said, "They're just shaking their fists and making a lot of noise."
>"So it's not really appropriate for an oversight body and its members to have detailed knowledge of sources and methods, because they are not trained in how to handle that." Did they really say this? My god these people talk like they work in the Kremlin under the USSR. If it's damaging then something damning has obviously taken place.
look what happened with this guy Wolfe, who was indicted recently by DoJ. leaked with impunity for years to the girl three decades his junior who was fucking him for scoops. this is why DoJ has been hesitant to give this information to congress--because congress has shown itself not to be trustworthy. in all likelihood the reason why this information is only now being released is because the next OIG report is being circulated in draft, and it's too late for the info being provided to do any damage to the investigation if leaked
Jaxon Brooks
Bump
Charles Rodriguez
TUMBLING >THE FUCK DOWN >TUMBLING THE FUCK >DOWN TUMBLING >THE FUCK DOWN >TUMBLING THE FUCK >DOWN
R E E E EEEEEEEEE
Jaxson Jones
This shit is getting slid fast. The other thread is already gone
>ndicated a willingness to hold deputy attorney general Rod Rosenstein in contempt of Congress if the department does not comply. Didn't they say the deadline was friday or contempt charges were flying?
Dylan Cooper
bump
Joseph Russell
I thought it was a later date but it's also possible he made the deadline and it's not public knowledge.
Henry Thomas
bump
Oliver Hughes
Gave a warning friday, Nunez said by wednesday they are going full throttle after Rosenstein and company
Tyler Cox
Bumping. Don't want this to disappear while I'm still reading.
War is still on for next week, they handed over bullshit to delay.
Aiden Kelly
i'm fucking so tired right now
Austin Robinson
>In essence, if we are to honestly call the baby ugly, we are also to admit: there is an ongoing and institutional cover-up taking place. Yes, even by Trump officials.
as long as Sessions/Rosenstein are running the DOJ, there won't be any draining of the swamp, it doesn't matter what documents they turn over, there won't be any investigation of Hillary or the Clinton Foundation, no investigation into Huma having tens of thousands of classified e-mails on her home laptop, no meaningful investigation into Comey, Strzok, McCabe, Page, Loretta Lynch....
Jonathan Howard
>documents reveal more partisan corruption >remove even more wind from sails of muh russia conspiracy >reinforces Trump's original claims >MSM ignores all revelations >impeach blumph movement continues >no repercussions for seditious actors except some quiet firings there I just saved you 6 months of following this bullshit
Bentley Jones
But there was, and it found nothing. The world doesn't actually run based upon your feelings, no matter how important you think they are.
Ryder Clark
"they found nothing" ????? There was a half-assed investigation into Hillary and Huma, they found classified servers run out of Hillary's home basement, they found 30,000+ e-mails on Huma's home laptop... people have gone to prison for far far less.
Benjamin Bennett
Even Fox is ignoring it. Bunch of controlled opposition kikes
Levi Jenkins
>If it's coming from one party, that indicates political bias
>real news happens >beaner threads pop up faster than the actual mexicans
Ethan Reyes
Yeah I had to filter a shit ton threads today, cant take it anymore. Any thread that asks a question is basically a slide thread. >what >how >are >have
Carter Kelly
They get to the second page in under a minute. How is that possible?
Brody Lee
IG report proved that nothing will ever happen
Jose Moore
Bump. Figure out what the shills are trying to slide.
Yes. And apparently Ryan stepped up and backed Nunes
Adam Turner
They're all swamp creatures and all they care about is votes and protecting themselves. Ginning up more of this deep state talk will get them votes, failing to actually prosecute and execute the traitors will protect the swamp. Nothing will come of this
This OIG report is just the first step. I can't tell if Horowitz is /ourguy/ or not but he did a good job with the IG report so far. There will be more investigations to come, including ones on the FISA abuses and the Hillary Clinton Email case.
Connor Phillips
Pointing out how bad this is being slid, better than replying bump again.
Robert Cruz
>congress has shown itself not to be trustworthy But the FBI is pure as the driven snow?
Carter Sanders
Wew lad, I thought it was the left that couldn't meme
Sorry hun but the oversight committee may have personal bias but the oversight committee found that that didnt display any political bias and this is perfectly fine because of the precedent set by the FBI, DOJ, and (((Horrowitz))) So let the fuck fuck games begin
Daniel Ward
why wouldn't anyone trust the party that made Dennis Hastert the Speaker of the House?
This. It's not D vs R. It's globalist elites vs the common folk. It's basically Trump and a handful of congressmen against everyone else in Washington.
William Butler
it's going to take quite a bit of rope when the time comes.
He’s like 1 of maybe 4 people including trump I actually trust in the entire (((government)))
Christian King
That's basically saying >ye well we used our ways of getting Intel, nothing to worry about, nothing illegal, even if I told you, you wouldn't comprehend, just don't ask
Nathaniel Taylor
Per the article cited in the op "Congressional oversight is not operational control, it's policy control,"
Alexander Miller
Fucking DOJ
Grayson Hall
>this guy Wolfe, who was indicted recently by DoJ. leaked with impunity for years to the girl three decades his junior who was fucking him for scoops. And no-one here sees the bigger picture.
Wolfe was a director of security in Congress. The "girl" Watkins was a "journalist" for Buzzfeed. Buzzfeed was the outlet that first published the Steele golden shower dossier. NYT immediately reported on the Buzzfeed story. They didn't touch it themselves. Two year laters, Watkins was working for the NYT directly.
The golden shower dossier written by an MI6 spy, paid for by Fusion GPS. Fusion GPS were paid in large part, by the DNC for the information. The wife of a senior FBI director, Ohr, worked for Fusion GPS. The same FBI that had agents working round the clock altering 302s and inventing Russia investigations. The same FBI that entrapped General Flynn into resigning.
This isn't even the half of it. Not 1% of it. The number of names involved in this. The number of institutions, agencies. Every one caught with their pants full down. The media, the intelligence services, the politicians, most of the militialy-industrial-intelligence-congressional complex. All united together against the President, and stupid enough to act on it. Together. It's the greatest political crisis and fallout in United States history and nobody can look past the pixels to see the bigger picture.
Yeah, Wolfe was how she got the dossier for buzzfeed. She must have tipped off ny times and been some liaison then in feeding them the story it sounds like.
Chase Hall
So when will people actually go to jail for this? Faking warrants is incredibly illegal.
Kevin White
touché
Parker Murphy
Implementation of the policy is as important as the policy itself. What other branch would the oversight fall under?
Kayden Wright
>when will people actually go to jail for this? in the coming years ig reports + under oath testimony to congressional oversight committees process has to be done first as a basis for criminally referrals
