Got any response Jow Forums?

if you're going to use a word like interlocutors because someone said kike you need to go directly into an oven
i dont even know what the fuck that means

There is nothing dishonorable about choosing one side or the other of a question. Discussions happen in public and where matters are unclear or confused one settles it by argument and counter argument. But there is one problem that is not discussed publicly, one that it is delicate even to mention: the jewish question. It is taboo in our republic.

The jew is immunized against all dangers: one may call him a scoundrel, parasite, swindler, profiteer, it all runs off him like water off a raincoat. But call him a jew and you will be astonished at how he recoils, how injured he is, how he suddenly shrinks back: “I’ve been found out.”

One cannot defend himself against the jew. He attacks with lightning speed from his position of safety and uses his abilities to crush any attempt at defense.

Quickly he turns the attacker’s charges back on him and the attacker becomes the liar, the troublemaker, the terrorist. Nothing could be more mistaken than to defend oneself. That is just what the jew wants. He can invent a new lie every day for the enemy to respond to, and the result is that the enemy spends so much time defending himself that he has no time to do what the jew really fears: to attack.

Quickly he turns the attacker’s charges back on him and the attacker becomes the liar, the troublemaker, the terrorist. Nothing could be more mistaken than to defend oneself. That is just what the Jew wants. He can invent a new lie every day for the enemy to respond to, and the result is that the enemy spends so much time defending himself that he has no time to do what the Jew really fears: to attack.

Complete disregard of what's actually being said. You're all literally lofitly indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past ("projection".). Lmfao Jow Forums never ceases to amaze me. Sartre was dead on with his critique.

>Not knowing one of the most influential and important philosophers of the 20th century.

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All newfags read the link he posted.

So every anti-semite is just a garden variety troll?
Some are, certainly, but Jow Forums gets into hard-core territory.

antisemites are the new jews.

It's the kikes who use manipulative language instead of speaking plainly. Where did the term "white privilege" come from? A Jewish woman pretending to be white. Where did the term "racist" come from? A Jewish man pretending to be white. Where did the terms multiculturalism, diversity, white flight, etcetera come from? All the manipulative bullshit language we have that hurts white people has come from Jews.

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>Pic related

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>Zoo see, comrade, all humans are stuck with absolute freedoom
>It is a curse, you see
>And you see, to best use zee vision, vee must embrace ze thought of Chairman Mao
>Honhonhon
>For only with strict unthinking adherence to zee totalistic vision, shall we use our cursed freedom to the best
>Honhonhon
>*Doesn't shower for 50 days*

Never believe that Jews are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. Jews know their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But Jews are amusing themselves. for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words.
The Jews have the right to play. Jews even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, jews discredit the serioussness of their interlocutors. Jews delight in acting in bad faith, since Jews seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert.
If you press them closely, Jews will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.

French philosophy is 100% gay and incorrect, absolutely no exceptions including Descartes
I love the French, have very lively political debates with French nationals I have met around the world, enjoy French food, culture, even some music, but French philosophy is literally the worst philosophy produced by white people hands down
Postmodernism is French, jews just ran with it and added their cultural deconstruction and nihilism

>You see, the argument is wrong because an Anti-Semite cannot at all be legitimate
>You see, honhonhon
>It is, in bad faith
>Honhonhon
>As such, it is bad, because it comes from his illegitimate, inauthentic mind
>Honhonhon
>One incapable of seeing zee truth

>Got any response Jow Forums?
Pretty good writing for someone with Downs syndrome.

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Dr Macdonald isn’t an old school jew hater you shitpiece, he began his studies trying to disprove antisemites and accidentally redpilled himself with his research

western jewish identity is just anger and revenge against white identity

why cant jewish people just integrate in society? why do they even need to keep "being jews" when in the western world most are atheists

if you are atheist, whats the point of jewish identity?

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Nope, I guess not.

>SAGE

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In spite of my mockery of Satre's politics, this is utterly wrong.

There is Decartes, Guenon, Bergson (Jew, but still), and a myriad of other enlightenment figures. Postmodernism is shit, but that is because communism was a cancer within the French intelligentsia.

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Because operating as a small tight knit minority with dual morality and a strong in group preference is a very powerful strategy for success especially in the context of the societies they inhabit being made up of hyperindividualists who can’t even imagine collectivizing as whites
It’s simple game theory really

>Having to absorb other people's subjective opinions to form your own
>Dismissing anyone unaware of your cryptojew homosexual fairy writer that goes full WeWhitePeople.jpg

the line we are told is that identity is primitive and that we are all humans and should move past our tribalistic mentality

then whats the problem with antisemitism? isnt semitism after all just another primitive tribalistic identity?

why are we even talking about this? why arent we talking about any other of the 1000s of human tribes and civilizations?

why are they still here, and non other? could it be because they encourage tribalism internally, and promote the opposite in the host society?

What can I say? The implication is that anti-semitism in general has no foundation, which is very much untrue.

The idea that you can hate people of a group for the actions of others in that group is of course, wrong. But there's no reason why a group shouldn't be held accountable for it's actions.

In truth there are a lot of reasons to be anti-semetic. And a lot of reasons not to be. In general I dislike the influence some jews have on the media and the way they behave in Israel, and have behaved in the past. But there are plenty of good Jews who have done good things.

I guess what I am saying is, I think it's a waste of time to hate every single individual jew, but a few good eggs is no excuse for people to not be held accountable for past actions, just as we constantly hold westerners accountable.

If we're going to live in a world where I can be guilted for colonialism, slavery, and all these other steps towards civilization that were apparently so evil, I sure as hell will reserve the right to do things that can be seen as "anti-semetic", such as making Jew jokes and calling out the Jewish influence on media.

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Funny. Hitler wrote the same thing about Jews. What's going on here?

You don't know who satre is

good

exactly, i am actually amazed they manage to keep it up for generation after generation for thousands of years, what a curse, i would hate to be born jewish, to be honest, no matter if i was rich, its not having a life, you are born as a part of the collective and thats it

>"Never believe that the jew is unaware of his detrimental nature, he is fully aware of his degenerate existence and that his ancestors prayed to lucifer".

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>But there's no reason why a group shouldn't be held accountable for it's actions.

Are all Jews collectively doing the "actions"? Even if these "actions" were real, it's almost certain that a majority aren't doing the "actions". It would be like holding regular German citizens accountable for the holocaust. It wouldn't make sense since a majority of German citizens had no part to play in the holocaust. A group can't be held accountable for it's actions unless every member of that group commits the action, if at least 1 Jewish person isn't doing these "actions" then Jewish people as a whole aren't doing the actions, just certain Jews (even if they may be every Jew except 1).

>In general I dislike the influence some jews have on the media and the way they behave in Israel, and have behaved in the past.

There are a disproportionate amount of Jewish people in the media I'll give you that but that doesn't mean anything particularly bad. There's a disproportionate amount of men in engineering. Pointing out that there's Jewish influence in the media is as useful as pointing out that there's male influence in engineering.

On Israel, I agree that Israel has done many wrong actions and they [the government]
deserves to be critiqued for it, but there are a lot of Jewish people who aren't zionists.

>If we're going to live in a world where I can be guilted for colonialism, slavery, and all these other steps towards civilization that were apparently so evil,

The people guilting you over colonialism and slavery are complete idiots and a very small percentage of the population. Very few people besides a radical feminist will guilt you for something you didn't do.

Also slavery and colonialism weren't steps toward civilization.

>Are all Jews collectively doing the "actions"
Tacitly, yes. If you see something, say something, or you're okay with something. That's how life works, for he who is not angry when he has cause to be inflicts a greater sin on this world than those who would inflict that cause.

>Also slavery and colonialism weren't steps toward civilization.

you just blew the last little bit of credibility you had

>disproportionate amount of Jewish people in the media

yeah but the disproportion of jews in media and holding wealth in general in the world is massive

its not a ruling 1%...its more like 0.001% holds most wealth, only 15 million jews worldwide

male vs female disproportions are natural, as such they dont come even close to that of jews vs gentiles

the disproportion of jewish power can only be explained by NEPOTISM, not just IQ gap like jordan peterson naively says

>>But there's no reason why a group shouldn't be held accountable for it's actions.
>Are all Jews collectively doing the "actions"? Even if these "actions" were real, it's almost certain that a majority aren't doing the "actions". It would be like holding regular German citizens accountable for the holocaust. It wouldn't make sense since a majority of German citizens had no part to play in the holocaust. A group can't be held accountable for it's actions unless every member of that group commits the action, if at least 1 Jewish person isn't doing these "actions" then Jewish people as a whole aren't doing the actions, just certain Jews (even if they may be every Jew except 1).

Jewry has been taken over by Zionists. I hate the "not all" argument because it tries to subvert the real issue. Jews largely support progressive ideals such as race mixing, the progressive stack and identity politics. They also know they it is going to destroy our country. I say send them off with a one way ticket to Israel and let the Muslims have their way with them.

No support for Jews in politics
No support for Israel
No support for Jews in media
No support for Jews in banking

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There are literally a fuck ton of Jews who are against these "actions". Many Jews are anti-zionist and against Jewish influence in media, there's literally a wikipedia page on Jewish people who hate themselves (self-hating jew).

It goes back to the German people and the holocaust example. Sure there are a lot of German people who were complicit in allowing the holocaust to happen, but there were also a ton who were completely against it and actively fought against it. German people, like Jewish people are a group and in them you get a ton of people of a ton of different varities that hold a ton of different opinions. There are many famous Jewish communists and Jewish capitalists.

>It would be like holding regular German citizens accountable for the holocaust.
Happens to this day though.

>There are a disproportionate amount of Jewish people in the media I'll give you that but that doesn't mean anything particularly bad.
Except the MSM at large is an absolute cancer on society, and so by extension it is being perpetrated by Jews.

> Pointing out that there's Jewish influence in the media is as useful as pointing out that there's male influence in engineering.
Agreed. But I am pointing it out as a foundation for antisemitism.

>The people guilting you over colonialism and slavery are complete idiots and a very small percentage of the population
And yet white guilt is basically enshrined into law in several western nations.

Look. I don't really care. I've had some very friendly jews in my life and many things that jews have created have been some of the best things in my life. What I am saying is, I am against this massive which hunt and character assasination that occurs whenever someone says something bad about Jews.

You could be the most virtuous person on earth and you'd be crucified for ragging on jews.

That makes them a protected species and given that, like all peoples, they are not perfect, I think that is wrong.

>ad hominem
doesn't warrant a response

When I said he was "old school" I only meant that he started writing about the Jews before the current crop of white nationalists like Andrew Anglin and dick Spencer.

i think very few people actually believe every single jew is bad

and blaming all jews only allows bad jews to keep using judaism as their shield

but when every liberal transpromoting article is written by a (((berg))), you cant blame people for making the connection

the art of saying nothing in endless paragraphs

Jewish neurosis doesn't stem from a hatred of what jews are, it's from a hatred of their position of involvment

>It would be like holding regular German citizens accountable for the holocaust.
Hahaha, my sweet Summer child. How long have you been here?

to be honest i find it difficult not to understand jews using jew tactics in this world of careless, mindless normalfaggots, to sell them shit and make themselves rich, if i cared about making money id myself would be fooling normies out of it

i suffer of some degree of guilt for not yelling at the face of every single person i see

"STOP BEING SO FUCKING RETARDED"

but that only buys you a ticket to the loonybin

>you just blew the last little bit of credibility you had

How is it wrong? We didn't need slavery or colonialism to achieve civilization. Once slavery and colonialism began dying out our world has literally gotten better and better. There was no point to it besides some meager economic benefit, any monetary benefit gained by them [colonialism and slavery] could have easily been gained in other ways that weren't so cruel.

> Your 2nd point (didn't feel like writing it out).

Why can it only be explained by nepotism? What's wrong with Petersons hypothesis?

That's why you get a bullhorn and a torso sized sign, and you stand in one place that doesn't block traffic while you tell every person who passes by how retarded they are. People can get really pissed about that, but in a decent country, they can't legally do shit about it.

>economic benefit
>slavery
Slaves have always hurt the economy. It's the same reason why the Matrix was retarded, you can't get more out of it than what you put in.

Yes, the projection is fucking unreal

petersons hypothesis is wrong because even taking into account the curve and the outliers and all of that

the population difference makes so that there are more gentile geniuses that jewish ones, for example 1% of 100.000 is still less than 0.01% of 100 million

if they are more prone to positions of power it must be because culturally they are more ambitious, power hungry, etc

and regarding the slavery part, slavery never died, you need to look at the world more carefully and you will see its the same shit, and yes, without slavery and colonization there would have never been a Rome, an industrial revolution, etc....

only if human nature would have been different all together since the beginning of history

so, with humans as they are, nature as we know it, yes, slavery and colonization specially, were necessary

to achieve this level of civilization and not use slavery, we would have to be in a universe where evolution and the laws of physics where different

>kike projection
ding ding

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It is not a responsr here there neither in the lapse of great men had there ever been a rabid sensation that wishes to reap upon the elders of that which i am saying.

Am I doing it right?

>Happens to this day though.

Yes and the people who do it are idiots.

>Except the MSM at large is an absolute cancer on society, and so by extension it is being perpetrated by Jews.

I hate MSM as much as the next guy but it's not exactly a cancer. It's a business designed to make profit.

>And yet white guilt is basically enshrined into law in several western nations

Which laws? Which laws guilt white people over colonialism and slavery?

>What I am saying is, I am against this massive which hunt and character assasination that occurs whenever someone says something bad about Jews.

I'm against witch hunts in general but if you say something bad about an entire group of people (whether they be white, black, and yes Jewish) it's dumb and your reputation will of course decline because saying something bad about an entire group of people is idiotic.

You can say something bad about a certain Jew(s), no intelligent person in the world will say you can't critique Harvey Weinstein because he was Jewish.

>You could be the most virtuous person on earth and you'd be crucified for ragging on jews.

Virtuous people don't rag on entire groups of people.

>That makes them a protected species and given that, like all peoples, they are not perfect, I think that is wrong.

I'm also completely against having it be completely fine to hold any group accountable for the actions of their groups bad apples (whether that be White or Jewish). I'd venture to say most people I've met in my life have the same thought.

>Which laws? Which laws guilt white people over colonialism and slavery?
Any affirmative action laws, and every tax levied to pay for them, as well as any punishments for not upholding them

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>Slaves have always hurt the economy.

Are you serious? A majority of the southern economy was built on slavery, it was a complete powerhouse and would've been the 4th largest economy in the world if the south split from the union. It raked in money. Do you understand economics at all? Having people work for free will obviously be profitable.

I'm gonna sage this obvious bait, but to give a real response:

Where is the absurdity in uprooting an openly nepotistic and parasitic force which controls your educational and media institutions not through merit but through corruption and seeks to indoctrinate your children into a life of self-deception and self-hatred that will ultimately result in the downfall of your society? A process that has happened over two hundred times throughout history as these people are found out again and again?

This is not to say all Jews, by necessity, must be bad. The kings of modern countersemitism, the Nazis, even made the Nuremberg Laws to allow some Jews a place in German society. I, myself, have a childhood best friend who is a Mischling and fairly apolitical. Commander Rockwell put it rightly when he said that he doesn't have a problem with Jews, only with communistic traitors... But 80-90% of Jews in America are Communistic traitors.

Wew that's a lot of pilpul an no actual argument. I'm anti-semitic in order to defend my people.

Yeah, yeah, that was all working great right up until someone with an actual working economy declared war on them and burnt half their cities to the ground.

Kike.

Close. The point behind stormfaggotry is to make you distrust jews. Once you distrust jews, the facts dont matter.

We cant afford prejudice anymore. Traditional alliances were shattered by the left. Look at all the traitors who are the same race or nationality as you.

Just because they happened to go to war with a more powerful economy doesn't mean that their economy wasn't profitable. It was, it just wasn't as profitable as the north.

lrn2economics, time is a resource you spend to make gains, too. Their economy could have been better if they automated like the north did, but instead they chose to keep paying for food, clothing, and shelter for the pets they felt responsible for. This means that slavery cost their economy potential profit. Slavery costs money.

Even though I heavily disagree with affirmative action I'd argue that it's intent is not to bring whites down and make them feel guilty but rather to bring blacks (and other disenfranchised groups) better opportunities. Affirmative action in it's definition doesn't seek to bring down white standards to black standards but rather raise black standards to white standards.

They couldn't automate like the north did because their geography and other factors made it more difficult for them to do that.

They chose the most economically feasible path. Only after reconstruction did they begin automating and it didn't achieve anywhere near the monetary gains that slavery brought in until a fairly long time later.

Also you went from "slavery hurts the economy" to "slavery hurts the potential economy". Your original claim was false (or poorly articulated) and you changed to a different one.

> Sartre was dead on with his critique.
Nope. He was completely off the mark, he was expressing his own opinion from a position of ignorance of the JQ. Just pulling stuff straight out of his ass basically.

>hurting potential economic gain is not hurting the economy
See, I knew you were going to be dumb enough to fall into this one, which is why I wanted to dangle that easy word game for you to look stupid on with my final post. Night, this has been fun, faggot.

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The term anti-Semitic is aggressively anti Semite. Jews are not the only Semitic people in the world, and in fact Muslims are, by a massive majority, the largest Semitic people. Not only in ethnicity, but in language (which the Semitic definition is based around).

I'd say that was bad faith.

The death of colonialism has certainly made the world a worse place. Africa, India, and The Middle East were much better off under European rule.

Well, it was fun. Almost all of you are exactly as dumb, ironically racist and anti-semitic as everyone said you were. G'night.

Indeed it is pestid kikes are as obvious as niggers in their own ways

Nietzsche died in 1900. If he lived through WWI and the interwar years he would have gassed every kike in Europe. Nietzsche's whole shitck was that jews wanted to assimilate and didn't want to take over the world.

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Revolution

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Press me as hard as you want mate. Let's do this.

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>Virtuous people don't rag on entire groups of people.
I don't unironically rag on *all* jews I generally agree with Churchill's breakdown of jewry he made in 1920. Nietzsche died in 1900 so he (foolishly) believed only the first group existed.

ZIONISM versus BOLSHEVISM.
A STRUGGLE FOR THE SOUL OF THE JEWISH PEOPLE.
By the Rt. Hon. Winston S. Churchill.

en.wikisource.org/wiki/Zionism_versus_Bolshevism

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"National" Jews.

"First there are the Jews who, dwelling in every country throughout the world, identify themselves with that country, enter into its national life, and, while adhering faithfully to their own religion, regard themselves as citizens in the fullest sense of the State which has received them. Such a Jew living in England would say, “I am an Englishman practising the Jewish faith.” This is a worthy conception, and useful in the highest degree. We in Great Britain well know that during the great struggle the influence of what may be called the “National Jews” in many lands was cast preponderatingly on the side of the Allies; and in our own Army Jewish soldiers have played a most distinguished part, some rising to the command of armies, others winning the Victoria Cross for valour.

The National Russian Jews, in spite of the disabilities under which they have suffered, have managed to play an honourable and useful part in the national life even of Russia. As bankers and industrialists they have strenuously promoted the development of Russia’s economic resources and they were foremost in the creation of those remarkable organisations, the Russian Co-operative Societies. In politics their support has been given, for the most part, to liberal and progressive movements, and they have been among the staunchest upholders of friendship with France and Great Britain."

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International Jews.

"In violent opposition to all this sphere of Jewish effort rise the schemes of the International Jews. The adherents of this sinister confederacy are mostly men reared up among the unhappy populations of countries where Jews are persecuted on account of their race. Most, if not all, of them have forsaken the faith of their forefathers, and divorced from their minds all spiritual hopes of the next world. This movement among the Jews is not new. From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx, and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilization and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing.

It played, as a modern writer, Mrs. Webster, has so ably shown, a definitely recognizable part in the tragedy of the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the Nineteenth Century; and now at last this band of extraordinary personalities from the underworld of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their heads and have become practically the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."

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Terrorist Jews.

"There is no need to exaggerate the part played in the creation of Bolshevism and in the actual bringing about of the Russian Revolution by these international and for the most part atheistic Jews. It is certainly a very great one; it probably outweighs all others. With the notable exception of Lenin, the majority of the leading figures are Jews. Moreover, the principal inspiration and driving power comes from the Jewish leaders. Thus Tchitcherin, a pure Russian, is eclipsed by his nominal subordinate Litvinoff, and the influence of Russians like Bukharin or Lunacharski cannot be compared with the power of Trotsky, or of Zinovieff, the Dictator of the Red Citadel (Petrograd), or of Krassin or Radek – all Jews.

In the Soviet institutions the predominance of Jews is even more astonishing. And the prominent, if not indeed the principal, part in the system of terrorism applied by the Extraordinary Commissions for Combating Counter-Revolution has been taken by Jews, and in some notable cases by Jewesses. The same evil prominence was obtained by Jews in the brief period of terror during which Bela Kun ruled in Hungary. The same phenomenon has been presented in Germany (especially in Bavaria), so far as this madness has been allowed to prey upon the temporary prostration of the German people. Although in all these countries there are many non-Jews every whit as bad as the worst of the Jewish revolutionaries, the part played by the latter in proportion to their numbers in the population is astonishing."

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A Home for the Jews.

"Zionism offers the third sphere to the political conceptions of the Jewish race. In violent contrast to international communism, it presents to the Jew a national idea of a commanding character. It has fallen to the British Government, as the result of the conquest of Palestine, to have the opportunity and the responsibility of securing for the Jewish race all over the world a home and a centre of national life. The statesmanship and historic sense of Mr. Balfour were prompt to seize this opportunity. Declarations have been made which have irrevocably decided the policy of Great Britain. The fiery energies of Dr. Weissmann, the leader, for practical purposes, of the Zionist project, backed by many of the most prominent British Jews, and supported by the full authority of Lord Allenby, are all directed to achieving the success of this inspiring movement.

Of course, Palestine is far too small to accommodate more than a fraction of the Jewish race, nor do the majority of national Jews wish to go there. But if, as may well happen, there should be created in our own lifetime by the banks of the Jordan a Jewish State under the protection of the British Crown, which might comprise three or four millions of Jews, an event would have occurred in the history of the world which would, from every point of view, be beneficial, and would be especially in harmony with the truest interests of the British Empire."

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>Nietzsche's whole shitck was that jews wanted to assimilate and didn't want to take over the world.
jta.org/2010/10/18/news-opinion/israel-middle-east/sephardi-leader-yosef-non-jews-exist-to-serve-jews

Sephardi leader Yosef: Non-Jews exist to serve Jews

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>inb4 someone says he's a nobody
timesofisrael.com/jerusalem-closes-down-for-rabbi-ovadia-yosefs-funeral/

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we da jews now

>There are a disproportionate amount of Jewish people in the media I'll give you that but that doesn't mean anything particularly bad. There's a disproportionate amount of men in engineering. Pointing out that there's Jewish influence in the media is as useful as pointing out that there's male influence in engineering.

Nigger, Jews aren't my people. They shouldn't have any influence or part in my peoples society.

>Why can it only be explained by nepotism?
Look up "The Myth of American Meritocracy." (Ironically enough, it was written by a jew) Jews are comically over-represented in elite academic institutions, even accounting for IQ and scholastic achievement. This alone has enormous repercussions, as it affords Jews a head-start on other groups thanks to credentials and networking opportunities denied to others. This is just one striking and easily displayed example, it's important to remember the "good-old boy" network is not the "good-old goy" network.