Individualism thread.
Individualism thread
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Julian Gomez
Feels good mane
Luis Wood
Gabriel Miller
Yep, My gf Just left me, she claimed we were growing apart or whatever, so right now I'm trying to distract myself.
> Leaf
You mean the chad Diogenes vs. the virgin Socrates.
> literally told Alexander the great to btfo.
also its unknown if Nietzche died a virgin or not, its assumed that he and one of his female followers had an on/off relationship, but she refused to marry him.
Wyatt Cox
Grayson Lee
Stirner walks up to Nietzsche in a bar, slaps his ass, and calls him a spook.
Who wins the ensuing debate/shitflinging contest?
Austin Perez
reddit has entire boards for you faggots to larp
Anthony Torres
forgot to mention he didn't fear the "abyss" he welcomed it, the whole point of his philosophy is that you're ego and sense of self must be torn down and rebuilt, same for society.
Liam Wilson
Neither, their pretty similar, i think Nietzche would just say his ego is a spook.
fuck off you onions cunt, how does your mother's nigger lover fuck you at night?
Chase Hill
Isaac Green
why is this women hating loser so popular here?
Brayden Carter
He isn't, Most of them think he supported anti-semitism and nationalism due to his sister's revisions of "the will to power", she was a white supremacist, even though individualism is in direct contrast with white supremacy. and fuck off you Swedish fuck.
Gabriel Allen
Michael Ramirez
yeah, that's his sister's work not his.
Leo Scott
what's wrong with being swedish? we are the master race objectively
Connor Rivera
Nietzsche died in 1900. If he lived through WWI and the interwar years he would have dropped individualism (not that he was much of one) and gassed every kike in Europe. Nietzsche's whole shitck was that jews wanted to assimilate and didn't want to take over the world. He was dead wrong.
Gabriel Bennett
Nietzsche claimed jews only wanted to assimilate. He would have gassed every last kike had he not died young in 1900.
Sephardi leader Yosef: Non-Jews exist to serve Jews
Aiden Brown
> Cucked onions boy marxist-feminist refugee fuckers.
yeah real "master race "to me, there is no "master race' we're all equally shit.
Elijah Anderson
>inb4 someone says he's a nobody
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Jace Lewis
You're thinking of herrenvolke Nietzsche pushed the ubermensch concept which was about a state of mind and had nothing to do with genetics.
Kevin Miller
there is a difference between kindness and cuckness
Jeremiah Clark
Imagine of Nietzsche could see Sweden today? He'd gas every kike this side of Andromeda and go full blown ethnonationalist.
Adam Wright
In case anyone doesn't know what i'm talking about of the seven largest Swedish dailies five are owned by jews and the remaining two by American investment banks, one being Goldman Sachs. The jewish Bonnier family in Sweden have the largest monopoly owning four of the biggest papers 96 book publishers, 42 business and trade press newspapers, 105 digital news platforms, 9 film companies, 176 magazines, 23 major papers, 33 TV stations, and 33 “other” media outlets.
Too bad he died young in 1900 right before shit popped off.
Sebastian Robinson
He never dropped Individualism, in fact, his individualism grew after ww1, Jews didn't "want to take over the world" that's just how things rolled out.
He Never said it had anything to do with genetics EVER.
Yeah, but you guys are cucked.
No, he'd see your identitarianism as pathetic. He was entirely anti-identitarianism of any kind, be it the owner of a commodity to your race.
Joshua Mitchell
.. in fact the open borders campaign in Sweden started in 1964 when David Schwarz penned "The Immigration Problem in Sweden" in the Bonnier owned Dagens Nyheter. This started a fierce debate led by Schwarz & his jewish co-thinkers. All jewish contributors favoured multiculturalism and this campaign resulted in an immigration bill in '75. The Conservative rightest party which first embraced multiculturalism was led by Gunnar Heckscher, of jewish descent.
Israel even pays migrants $3,500 to "relocate" to Sweden.
Angel Hill
I'm not against borders, however, Nationalism/identitarianism of any kind is the most cucked thing possible, you are nothing beyond who you are, things like race are arbitrary to the ideal ubermensch.
Caleb Phillips
You don't have a clue what you're talking about. You read a quote about anti-semitism 17 years before jews launched a communist revolution in Germany/Russia and exterminated tens of millions of Europeans. He thought jews would assimilate and he thought the colonial empires were here to stay. He would have gassed every kike he could get his hands on if he didn't die young.
Easton Bailey
Great arguments shlomo. You've read one line written in the 19th century (that was proven incorrect) and now you think you know Nietzsche. Ashkenazi IQ everyone.
Nolan Brown
The entire chapter was about the European man you idiot. Stupid fucking jewmutt Americans.
Jayden Lewis
Individualism is irrational
Connor Barnes
Let me guess, college with different degrees?
Jacob Cox
So retards think Nietzsche was an individualist?
Just goes to show how few people actually bother to read any given philosopher they're babbling about
Isaiah Cox
He was speaking of the European man when Europeans had the entire continent of Africa and most of Asia/South America under imperial rule. "Nah man le Neetsh said Africans could be based and that white nationalism was retarded" .. fucking idiots he wanted Europeans to come together assimilate the jews and rule the world in one polity that could foster a superhuman European man.
Fuck this thread triggered me. I hate when kikes misrepresent him and the period in which he lived.
Ryan Morris
Man, its like you've never read any of his work, he didn't care about Government he hated the state, he was basically an anarchist if it weren't for the collectivist anarchists of his time.
> proven wrong.
Not really Look how Nihilistic everyone is nowadays
> everyone is Glued to their phones.
> everyone Buys what the television tells them to, both figuratively and literally.
No, it was about Humankind in general.
> when the Nazis were leftists.
Nietzche would've hated the LGBT movement, its a fucking nihilistic, virtue signaling collective, literally the opposite of Individualism.
Nah college is cucked, Even Nietzche would agree and he was a professor.
I did faggot, the guy was a complete individualist, anything that says he wasn't has drawn heavily from revisionist versions of his work.
> he literally championed the jews.
Angel Perez
Not only him, I have seen non-racists misrepresent pretty much all the great philosophers for their own meaningless purposes.
Andrew Reyes
Not one argument to be found.
Cooper Martinez
Look at a world map during his lifespan you inbred.
Joseph Carter
What are you talking about?
Chase Bell
He said they had the Potential for the rule over Europe, not that they did, he believed that their drive for greatness was something to be admired, Nazis tend to have jealously for the achievements of jews.
It's ironic how fascists hate commies and they don't realize that they basically are commies.
Joseph Cooper
My argument is that nazis tend to believe his sister's writtings not his, he hated white supremacy and fascism- all collectivism in general to him was a shit show.
Cooper Gonzalez
>Nazis tend to have jealously for the achievements of jews.
>It's ironic how fascists hate commies and they don't realize that they basically are commies.
This sack of shit is a walking cliche.
Adam Garcia
No idea it was meant for the other guy. The entire chapter is about bringing together the peoples from "the Urals to the Channel, and perhaps beyond" and "suppressing those that seek to pit the lowest amongst us against each other".. He believed in the rule of law and liberty. He was about as individualist and pro-nigger as your liberty-loving rule-of-law-espousing slave-holding founding fathers.
His only glaring error was believing that jews wanted to assimilate.
Nicholas King
Forgot to mention that The "jews" he referred to were not nesecerilly The Hebrews, he was referring to all of the religions based on the foundation of Juedao Beliefs, although he hated religion for its collectivism.
Luis Walker
> yfw you cant disagree cause you know im right.
Jason Murphy
Too bad she wasn't the full time philosopher.
Carson Long
sounds like someones never read on the genealogy of morality
Jace Price
>white supremacy
Practically the entire world was under imperial white rule during his lifespan you stupid mutt. He was a Roman fetishist that wanted to recreate a global (non-Christian) polity that could foster a superman man (and civilization) .. you're like the kikes that claim the slave-holding founding fathers were civic nationalists. During the 19th century such a concept was unthinkable especially in Germany.
Jordan Adams
That's not true at all. There was a clear delineation and he was speaking of the jewish race not their religion.
Carter Gutierrez
>Yep, My gf Just left me, she claimed we were growing apart or whatever, so right now I'm trying to distract myself.
Tinder is your friend. Also FaceApp to make you look better. Women don't care when they meet you anyway.
Henry Collins
>It's ironic how fascists hate commies and they don't realize that they basically are commies.
You are the reason I hate reddit so much
I know, but I was talking about OP
Hunter Bennett
>Nietzsche
>Individualist
Ian Price
>
olity that could foster a superman man (and civilization)
Yes and no, he wanted a transvaluation of all values that humanity holds dear, to create a society of Ubermensch, a society of individuals rather than a world of collectivist nihilists.
nah Like I said before, nationalism besides civil nationalism is pretty cucked, you are an individual you shouldn't give a flying fuck what the herd expects or believes you should be.
idk what the fuck your reading, but he very clearly separated race from religion, racial nationalism is the most cucked ideology besides gommunism.
> uses lestermench herd apps.
> mfw ive never actually been on reddit.
Luke Cox
Dood, he frequently condemned racial nationalism cuck boy.
Evan Gutierrez
Diogenes was just a degenerate. If you saw him today, you'd probably tell him to get a job. There's no way in hell he told Alexander to fuck off, it's just one of those fables that comes later.
Nolan Anderson
Inside Europe that was controlled by a handful of Empires that controlled virtually the entire planet* .. the founding fathers wrote your constitution assuming future generations would never think to apply it to their slaves. You're being ridiculous.
Oliver King
wow, so you're just naturally retarded. How do you even conclude communism and a third position system are the same, the amount of ignorance in that statement is shameful, how do you even live with yourself?
Wyatt Rogers
>Disregard women acquire currency meme is real
Jaxon Gutierrez
He predicted the world wars (minus the jewish element) and wanted Europeans to come together and put aside petty squabbles. He was what mutts in America call a "white nationalist" the idea of niggers or wops being given the same status as Europeans was completely foreign to every man that lived during the 19th century. Europeans dominated these third world peoples through their massive empires. Russia. Britain. France. Germany. Austria-Hungary. He wrote very negatively about the Ottomans this should have been your first clue.
Russia, Austria, Britain and America (together controlling 80%+ of the world at that time) were all lead by Germanic elites.
Elijah Reed
yeah and he probably had schizophrenia, however, compared to the soc, he is philosophy is so much more sound, also ever heard of the concept of "simple living", I admit living in a giant clay pot was a bit far, however, the fewer material commodities you covet, the closer you are to your inner "ubermensch", to use Nietzsche's terms.
> mfw Thomas Jefferson and various other early American politicians were anti-slavery.
> mfw when I'm an anarchist and I don't give a shit.
> seizes means of production from the wealthy.
> uses mob rule to fulfill goals.
> wants equality, but only for a certain class.
> focuses entirely on the tribe rather than the well being of the individual.
Xavier Walker
He predicted the world wars (minus the jewish element) .
> hasn't realized that Nietzsche hated nationalism, and actually saw Jews as something to look up to due to their ability to rise to the occasion and seize something of their own.
> yfw you cant win an argument.
Christian Russell
Stirner is superior to Nietzsche.
Chase Miller
> the idea of Blacks or wops being treated equally to whites was completely foreign.
Kek, no it wasn't the Republicans in the u.s waaaaaay before Nietzche thought that everyone should be treated equally, at least civically.
Joseph Diaz
They're about the same, in some aspects I view Nietzsche's work as almost a continuation of Stirner.
Xavier Howard
You seriously thought he included niggers and chinks that were illiterate savages under European colonial rule as equals? What a joke. He didn't want the Germanic-led empires (particularly Britain, Germany and Russia) of Europe to fight each other as they did during WWI. He seen jews as nomads that simply wanted to assimilate. He was dead wrong.
Gavin Morris
They didn't extend this to niggers and chinks you idiot. You're completely rewriting history the idea of civic nationalism wasn't even a thing until the 1960's and even that's arguable. Mixed race couples in commercials didn't even appear until the early 2000's. God damn I hate mutts.
Angel Stewart
Ok, so that's somewhat communism, now how is it similar to fascism?
Jose Gutierrez
>He was dead wrong.
YouTube censored this 50 year old speech by a Jew (uploaded half a decade ago) recently. It had 400k+ views 96%+ likes. He was a childhood friend of Untermeyer/Morgenthau and served on the American delegation to the council of Jews in Amsterdam. Freedman explains in detail how Jews turned on Germany during WWI and the interwar years.
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The parallels to America are ridiculous.
Benjamin Young
>Stirner
Fuck off, /his/
Aaron Turner
I get banned every single time I post there.
Nicholas Diaz
> chinks being illiterate
They were a pretty advanced society dood, I guess you missed that class. also, the Jews not only assimilated they thrived, and I don't not hate them because their Jewish, i hate them because they hold power over me, i.e banking etc..
> chinks invented Gunpowder you uneducated cunt.
Because that's literally the tree that both of them followed, they seized the means of production from the wealthiest class, and the dispersing that wealth to what they felt was an abused class, in the case of the commies it was the proles and in the case of the fascists it was whites. It's not so much that they are the same belief, its that they follow the same means and ends while simply talking semantics.
Juan Myers
I hate them because their leading rabbis say my grandchildren are to be enslaved/exterminated.
Elijah Nguyen
Chinks invented rudimentary three ingredient gunpowder. It's because they had access to high quality ground level potassium nitrate. Whippity shit.
Isaac Richardson
They both attempted to destroy "master values" and replace them with slave values, ironically this only results in the new masters installing a new set of master values, that usually all that different from the first set. If they had gone in a Nietzschean route, they would have destroyed master and slave values not imposing their values on anyone.
99% of modern and common Jews don't believe that also how do they think they feel about you wishing the same for them? in the end your both the "bad guys".
> still invented Gunpowder.
Leo Rogers
His funeral was the largest in Israeli history. Try again.
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Michael Ross
Ok? Your taking not into consideration that most of them probably didn't know or disagreed with that idea, also the same goes for Christians, in the bible/Torah it says to kill gays and guess what you don't see that every day now do you? and there is a growing anti-zionist movement that disagrees with such views.
Try again.
Jayden Bell
>Because that's literally the tree that both of them followed
Nope, you're just an ignorant faggot
>they seized the means of production from the wealthiest class
You mean Germany took the money of the kikes, because of the way they got it with corruption, usury, and sedition AKA illegally? How does "seizing the means of production" go with Germany's labor-backed currency? What were the reichsmarks used for if they had an economy similar to that of the commies? When did Italy "seize the means of production"? Give me an example where Hitler took the money of the wealthy to redistribute it to the lower class. I'm asking you all of this because it never happened.
>It's not so much that they are the same belief, its that they follow the same means and ends while simply talking semantics.
user, I came to realize you know nothing of fascism because, to begin with, third position economies don't even see society as a mechanism for the economy, thus their means and ends are nowhere close to similar with capitalists nor communists who see it that way
Owen Cruz
> Nope, you're just an ignorant faggot.
Not an argument.
> ou mean Germany took the money of the kikes, because of the way they got it with corruption, usury, and sedition AKA illegally?
Literally exactly what the bullshitviks used as justification, don't get me wrong I'm entirely against usury, in fact, i want a system where interest is abolished.
> user, I came to realize you know nothing of fascism because, to begin with, third position economies don't even see society as a mechanism for the economy, thus their means and ends are nowhere close to similar with capitalists nor communists who see it that way
You are ignorant of what I am referring to, all ideologies involved, socialism capitalism etc... are based on this same ideal, its a system based on the emotion of the mob, not what is actually logical or good for the individual, nothing actually changes because when the "slave" class reaches the "master class" they simply continue to institute elitist and authoritarian ideas and use their ideology as a way to justify their actions. Capitalists, communists and nazis all claim that their doing whats best for the "common people".
It's not Left vs. right, its collective vs. individual
> pic related.
Parker King
IM FUCKING PLYING
Nietzsche wants you to serve your superiors, meaning go outside and worship at the feet of the normies who MOG you so hard you feel the need to erect a false idol in Nietzsche to COPE with your inadequacy.
The human body is an oligarchy, so it should be in the republic. You're all filthy trash. Trash should serve.
Jace Reed
> Nietzsche wants you to serve your superiors,
No, not all he wanted no masters or slaves, Just individuals.
Andrew Lee
>Literally exactly what the bullshitviks used as justification
But unlike the bolks, there was evidence that the Jews were doing it, even Hitler was spared on his trial because the judges knew it was true (before his ascension to power), did that justify his violence thru his campaign? Maybe, because traitors should get shot, but my point is, it was well-known kikes were conspiring against Europeans, the Poles had one of the hardest times thanks to them helping commies gain control, there are documents showing the interest rates even during the depression, Jews were literally draining the Germans from every last penny they had
>its collective vs. individual
There is no competition since there is no comparison, a collective is stronger than an individual, more efficient, literally better at anything. user, you realize that in third position economies, the system works for the people, not the other way around. Look, this dude makes a good summary, it is biased, but it will give you an idea of what I'm talking about because I couldn't explain it better myself:
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Fascism is a totalitarian system not due to it being based on "the emotion of the mob" it is based on a scientific approach adapted to a political system, it englobes anything and everything, it's not perfect, but it is not what you think it is
Andrew Price
>its collective vs. individual
There is no competition since there is no comparison, a collective is stronger than an individual, more efficient, literally better at anything.
It only takes an individual to destroy or change the mind and values of a collective, there is nothing higher then the individual, and the collective needs the individual to survive.
> But unlike the bolks, there was evidence that the Jews were doing it, even Hitler was spared on his trial because the judges knew it was true (before his ascension to power), did that justify his violence thru his campaign? Maybe, because traitors should get shot, but my point is, it was well-known kikes were conspiring against Europeans, the Poles had one of the hardest times thanks to them helping commies gain control, there are documents showing the interest rates even during the depression, Jews were literally draining the Germans from every last penny they had
No, Just No- The communists had evidence that I happen to agree with to some degree, however, I would never consider myself a communist- a Libertarian market-socialist economy is best - example being the theory of surplus value, even the fashy's agreed and believed in, example also being Hitler declaring himself a socialist and condemning capitalists for their greed.
> Fascism is a totalitarian system not due to it being based on "the emotion of the mob" it is based on a scientific approach adapted to a political system, it englobes anything and everything, it's not perfect, but it is not what you think it is
It's a failed attempt at imposing pseudo-science derived from the emotion of the mob, its exactly what I think it is, its one of the oligarchy's attempts to control people, i.e the Bush's funding the Nazis. Also the fact that you would even be ok with an authoritarian regime that fucks everyone is disconcerting.
Michael Edwards
This thread has a lot of discussion and arguments. You people are making this way too complicated.
Kayden Torres
Pic related, it’s me.
Christian Ward
Individualism brings you nowhere sadly thats the truth Nietzsche knew it thats why he admired jews
Evan Ross
Neitzche would call him a spook
Lincoln Nelson
Individualism doesn’t because we are all part of some sort of collective group or identity whether you like it or not.
James Long
probably the accurate word would be an isolationist.
Wyatt Ortiz
god damn i love these.