We have a generation of men that in which the vast majority are starved for female affection or sex. The end result is that they are depressed, angry and bitter at a society that tells them they are the source of all evil.
The future involves men doing the following >Checking out on society and going on welfare. >Killing themselves or performing attacks if they snap mentally >or fleeing to fucking Asia.
Why would beta men want to contribute tax dollars a third to a half of their income to a society that actively hates them and still expects them to work to support it? They'll never have kids never had a wife or GF? There is no future for them in this society why should they give a shit?
Don't worry, we are importing millions of high testosterone men who have not been ruined by the sexual revolution, your women will be taken care of and western birth rates are forecast to EXPLODE over the next few decades as a result.
worked from 15 to 40 sell my house walk away from previous life Adult entry into Uni Had no idea about all this SJW/racism shit 3 years later... fuck this I'm out. now live in small country town 400kms away from any major centres comfortable on my neetbux waiting to die
Cameron Reyes
While this is a troll stealth KARA BOGA shitpost, this is actually 100% correct.
Despite all their protestations to the contrary, women actually do want attention from men, aggressive attention, and do want to get dicked down, hard.
The problem is that it has to feel REAL. They can't "let" Western men be aggressive and manly again, because being in a position of power is unfeminine to them.
They want their masculine men to disempower them despite their protestations that they want to be treated with equality and respect, to FORCE them to give up their arrogant entitlement.
Samuel Clark
Marriage was always shit btw
This by the way is the reason civilized society has degenerated so much, it started to decline as soon as it started.
Society brainwashes men to serve women and society in marriage, but the twist is that the best men will see it for what it is and opt out. Sure some top tier men will still pass on their genes by cuckoldry and p&d, but beta men end up seeding most of each generation which makes each one weaker more pussy whipped and more pathetic than the last until it collapses or more virile men from outside fuck everything and bring everything down to a more primitive ie less faggotty level
Everything rightwingers are trying to defend is actually what’s killing the West
muh technology (facejew, instawhoring, google spy) muh respect for women (paying for dates, locking up men for giving the wife a slap, rewarding sluts with government cheese and dates from betas) muh low crime (fighting is banned, raising your voice gets the cops called, masculine hobbies are demeaned or mocked as posing) muh gay rights
Jace Davis
Sex is really just for young guys. As soon as you get a bit older maybe lose some of your sex drive if you don’t work out faithfully (even if you bring it back up later) you start using your big head.
You start to see what all sexual relationships and women are, what sex is. You start to feel the first signs of aging and realize how hard taking care of a woman her whole life might be. You start questioning the whole idea especially in a world where women are able and actually encouraged to take jobs and money from men forcibly via the state.
Basically if society wants men to commit they have to push them into it young because once you step out of that hormone driven madness for even a second, that’s fucking it, you’re lost to society’s purposes. Every year you’re single above 30yo you’re a lot less likely to get married it’s a statistical fact.
Luke Collins
Mainstream “right” gets it wrong 90% of the time. The left takes its share of nation destruction and the “right” gets the rest
There is no conservatism any more, we’ll only get it back after a war. The ballot box is designed to keep it from us
Camden Phillips
depression? for women. I'm a lot happy without having to deal with these thots on a personal level. if I want to fuck I just get an escort. the modern womyn is absolute cancer and should be avoided at all costs. if I didn't have to interact with them at work I wouldn't.
Daniel Reyes
About as good as it gets, unless you were born into serious wealth and privilege.
Hunter Hernandez
I read these threads every day, but they just keep getting more interesting. Honestly.
Women are so fucking ruined, and shit..... it's fascinating. And yeah, men are pussies. I can tell you this much, I'm gonna stop being nice to women.
I'm not gonna be a jerk, but I'm not gonna be nice either. I really feel like this post snapped me out of some major brainwashing. Women need to be fucking HANDLED, ASAP.
White women can be handled by white men, or by muh oppressed minorities. I will never take another dumb cunt's shit for the rest of my life.
Over half of men. But hey if it ain't bad enough for you yet, then let's just wait an other three years. It will be worse 3 years from now, just like how now is worse than it was 3 years ago.
Everyone will wake up eventually, we are just like the early money who invested in bitcoin before it blew. The normies will come piling in about a decade from now when EVERYONE realizes that monogamy is dead.
I believe this unironically, not as an angsty incel
Lucas Peterson
>The vast majority
Yeah I do all my social data collection on Jow Forums too
Cooper Gray
Over half of men(who post on this board) have never been laid! What could be wrong with this society?
Luis Young
Its over half of men if your going by the people who visit here. But its not the same when you look at society as a whole. Most people are in or recently have been in a relationship. Sure there is cheating going on but a lot of those people are monogamous. You think otherwise because you have few friends and don't often socialise.
I'm not saying half of men haven't had sex, or a relationship. Half of men aren't going to get married, or they will get divorced.
Nicholas Davis
>Why would beta men want to contribute tax dollars a third to a half of their income to a society that actively hates them
It´s not even about beta men , while society do hates them , the problem is that everything is broken , marriage was a social contract to protect children , now it can end literally enslaving the man if a roastie cheats on you , and on top of that you can´t enjoy your children anymore.
Modern western society is a scam for men , but as a whole has become a welfare intergenerational ponzi about to explode.
The fact that you had no idea about "SJW/racism" until you attended a (((university))) is a testament to the fact that most people are still just normal people. If you turn off the internet and the TV, life is pretty much the same as it's always been.
Adam Thomas
I think divorce rates have actually gone down. Also Iwhyt the fuck would a guy want to get married that shit is a bad contact. Like I get if you want to have the ceremony and the whole eyes of god thing, but to sign a contract with the government. Your just asking to get fucked.
Lincoln Campbell
Posting memes at me won't get you that tradwife you long for bro, better yourself
Isaiah Johnson
You are a woman. No real man believes the "b ur self" meme.
Chase Edwards
heres a protip: you need to stop obsessing over sex like a horny child and realize that you are an actual person and you dont have to actually give in to your every hormonal urge
More like a silly joke you fuckin retarded foreign teacher.
Asher Gomez
Easier said than done. > you are an actual person and you dont have to actually give in to your every hormonal urge I tell this to myself every time, but its too difiicult to not give in, if you are a fucking addicted thanks to porn and internet. Technological progression was a mistake. >inb4 its your fault for abusing it No, its not just my fault. Of course I am the one acting out on it, but if you grew up in a society, that already was intoxicated with this shit and you, as a kid, didnt understand the society in that time and all this crap was forced upon you, because it was a norm, then its the fault of my previous generations for fucking this world up, not mine. I am a degenerate fuck and struggling to better myself, because idioit werent capable of acting responsible and shaping the world in a good way in the first place
Lincoln Sanchez
>Checking out on society and going on welfare. Most check out, but most don't go full NEET. They make enough to subsist. >Killing themselves or performing attacks if they snap mentally Autism is an epidemic, I'm telling you folks. >or fleeing to fucking Asia. Well that's what happens when the domestic STEM industry wants cheap labor instead of training up quality labor. Now Asia gets American STEM labor that doesn't want to deal with diversity bullshit.
Some comedian or something once said, "Sex is like air: Your forget how important it is, until you're not getting any." Sex is a physiological need, and lack of it causes not just mental illness, but actual physical illness as well. That's what makes it such an inescapable cycle: You don't get any sex as a teen, so your body never fully develops and you have low testosterone, and so you are rendered permanently undesirable.
Colton Parker
>Easier said than done. is self control really that hard do you have literally nothing to do except plan on how will you get more sex? if yes it seems a lot like a psychological obsession or an addiction
>Technological progression was a mistake. you can be a decent person under any technology dont blame technology on your own personal shortcomings
>No, its not just my fault. Of course I am the one acting out on it, but if you grew up in a society, that already was intoxicated with this shit and you, as a kid, didnt understand the society in that time and all this crap was forced upon you, because it was a norm, then its the fault of my previous generations for fucking this world up, not mine. I am a degenerate fuck and struggling to better myself, because idioit werent capable of acting responsible and shaping the world in a good way in the first place so what? you are born in a society that promtoes you to cut off yoru dick for social points? are you going to do that and blame the society jsut like you druggies blame dealers for their addiction hint: dealer didnt stuff your nose with coke, you did i was born in the same world as you were and my people are not that different from german, guess what im not a degenerate
Asher Martin
so if you dont have sex for a short time you die? you fucking dont there were a shitton of people who were virgins and brilliant, just like there were average ones it means nothing, means as much it does when you jerk it off into the toilet except it is more immersive if you do it with a girl
Jonathan Gray
As it should be, we can't have low quality humans reproducing.
Zachary Phillips
No, women being free means the end of marriage as women are all hypergamous polygamous sluts.
Isaac Morris
If bionic wiener guy can get laid, then you can too. Stop making excuses. If you are ugly then get an ugly gf
Lucas Ramirez
>Are you a nigger or a white man ? As I said, it's easier said than done. Restraining from woman and not engaging in casual sex is not a big of a deal. I had many opportunities, but my conscience would usually jump in and prevent me from doing mistakes. However pornography and internet are a whole different thing, especially when you are addicted to it and it doesn't directly involve real people I could hurt or who could hurt me.
I was baited by the jew and dont know how to get of his hook.
Jeremiah Stewart
What a surprise, the slav is unable to comprehend simple sentences. If you don't have sex, you become ill. No you don't die, but your growth is stunted due to lack of testosterone, and you grow up to be a physically weak adult prone to illness. Kill yourself without delay
except ltierally none of that is true, i know cause im from a doctors' family and even if i didnt know anything about medicine you only need common sense to see its bullshit
isaac newton was a virgin? was he ultra succesful? yes was he one of greatest minds of human history? yes was he ultra ugly, weak or unwanted? definetely no
just like that some random drunk joe or jimmy from local town nobody ever knew was a virgin was he ugly? probably, not his fault, was he making bad decisions? probably yes and its his fault
they are people just like those who put their dick in wet hole (which didnt magically make them succesful or awesome) and they were defined by their life, decisions, personality and such
everybody except seriously mentally damaged people that life is so much more
John Cooper
t.incel No one owes you fucking shit. Now try and make an effort to talk to girls or stick to jacking off in your room.
Nathan Peterson
I am talking about sexual liberation and (pornographic) addiction, mate. If a child is born into a world, where porn, polygamy and all sorts of sexual degeneracy is normalizied and accepted, you will grow into this shit. Norm does imply, that most people are behaving and accepting certain behaviour. Now if I am at age 8 and come into contact with pornography because most people havent acknowledged the dangers and even promoted it, my 8 years old brain will be flooded with hormones, will get excited and overtime addicted.
This is the whole problem I am talking about. And i am not a exception, there are a lot of people who grow into this sick world, because they couldnt do shit about it at a young age.
Ian Morris
And it’s incredibly easy too. Most women now have sex on their second date.
Kevin Fisher
Yeah maybe once every 100 years, a virgin genius will become successful, like Newton or Tesla or whoever. That does not prove you point. Exceptions are bound to happen. But how many Chad Thundercock millionaires are there for every 1 Isaac Newton? Testosterone is absolutely vital to intelligence, ambition, and energy, and without it you will never EVER reach your full potential. Living without sex causes your testosterone to drop to child levels
Oliver Price
>If you don't have sex, you become ill no you dont thats an outright extremely retarded lie
William Roberts
How so? You accept it can lead to depression, yes? I mean that's not retarded, everyone accepts that as a fact. If nobody finds you desirable, you can become depressed. Very simple, yes?
And it is also a fact that depression can cause physical symptoms in addition to emotional symptoms. That is a scientific fact. It can cause aches and pains, low energy etc.
So there you go. Very simple: lack of sex leads to physical illness. And that's not even beginning to mention the various health problems caused by low testosterone.
>Living without sex causes your testosterone to drop to child levels no it doesnt where the fuck do you pull out retarded lies like that from mgtow forums or incel forums or what? point was not to say that virginsa re genius, but they are normal everday people, just like thsoe who are not virgins their problem doesnt stem from being a virgin, but they are probably a virgin because they have a fucked up immature mentality
so your personal responsibility is alleviated by the fact that your society pushed you towards it thats a very comforting view of the world, but one which eventually makes you jsut give up and accept being a moron because nothing could be done cause you were born that way
hint: you werent, you can change whenever you want and your life is your own decision and your own fault
James Hughes
>retarded lie Not necessarely. We crave sex not just for the sake of it, nor for procreation, but as social creatures also fro intimicity, acceptance, bonding, love. It's indeed a psychological need. If a human has not the opportunity to satisfy this need, he becomes e.g. depressed (psychologically ill). If he is psychologically ill, he is more likely to become physically ill aswell. Therefore, lack of sex means lack of love, means lack, of psyhcological health, lack of physiological health.
Caleb Hughes
>How so? You accept it can lead to depression, yes? it is not a cause of depression ones mentality and mental attitudes are same ones that resulted in him being a loser in the first place even if that person did have sex nothing would change, because problem is in his psyche and attitude and if that is solved by having sex ill assume we are talking about either someone who is 15 years old or someone who is mentally on that level
>If nobody finds you desirable it means either you have some rare genetic disease or you are deformed or a psycho or in 99% of the cases you are jsut a fucking reatard who cant grow up
Adam Flores
>And that's not even beginning to mention the various health problems caused by low testosterone no it doesnt and that is a retarded lie, ask any biologist or a medical doctor
Liam Reyes
No don't fucking be yourself, obviously your self is currently vile, repugnant and retarded. Make yourself a better person, better yourself.
Jordan Johnson
>Therefore, lack of sex means lack of love how on earth is love tied to sex are you literally 15 years old?
ask literally any biologist or a medical doctor they would laugh in your face
Hunter Ward
Are you an actual, certified, institutionalized retard who got hold of a laptop computer? Low testosterone is literally a medical condition, that you can go to the doctor, get diagnosed with, and get medication for. And yes, lack of sex causes low testosterone, just as having sex causes raised testosterone. If you do not get sex on a regular basis, you are literally at a medical disadvantage compared to normal people who have sex regularly, and you will have a very hard time accomplishing as much as a person who gets sex
Grayson Perez
>society pushed you towards it Yes and no. You seem to ignore the fact, that people at a young age, children, are just forming their personality and are very vulnerable to external influences such as the society as whole. As you grow older you start to be more consious about your actions, believes etc., but if you got caught into an addiction as a child, its difficult to break those wires that have been planted into you as a child.
>you can change whenever you want and your life is your own decision and your own fault You are being delusional at this point. Whatever is happening in your life is not your choice. Did you chose to be born in a certain country? To certain parents? Could you choose to be rich or poor? No, you dont. Some cicrumstances were given already, which again will have an impact on your life, especially when you wer young. It's not possible to change to a whole new person in 24h.
Dominic Carter
Man, I'm 35 and hornier than ever. I go out on dates constantly and have sex all the time.
Nathaniel Brooks
AND FURTHERMORE, low testosterone (caused by lack of sex) makes you LESS DESIRABLE. It is a cycle. If you do not get sex as a teen, your entire life is affected. Your entire life will be below its true potential
Asher Davis
>how on earth is love tied to sex Are you really that dense? Of course love is not tied to sex, but sex is one of the best tools to show affection and intimicy to one another, which is very important to our psychological health. I guess I dont have to state the obvious, stop pretending to be that stupid.
Cooper Phillips
>Low testosterone is literally a medical condition and it is not a result of not having sex saying that it is in an outright falsehood
Lucas Bell
Sex is a drug not intimacy.
Camden Nguyen
so your psychological health is tied to whether or not others will have sex with you its a sad sad way to live
precisely not the other way around that no sex makes you have low test
Kayden Mitchell
>Yes and no. You seem to ignore the fact, that people at a young age, children, are just forming their personality and are very vulnerable to external influences such as the society as whole. As you grow older you start to be more consious about your actions, believes etc., but if you got caught into an addiction as a child, its difficult to break those wires that have been planted into you as a child. im not im just saying that you use it as an excuse to justify your own shortcomings and unwillingness to change
>You are being delusional at this point. Whatever is happening in your life is not your choice. Did you chose to be born in a certain country? To certain parents? Could you choose to be rich or poor? No, you dont. Some cicrumstances were given already, which again will have an impact on your life, especially when you wer young. It's not possible to change to a whole new person in 24h. you can always change and make decisions world around you are simply obstacles which are all passable
Xavier Reyes
> If you turn off the internet and the TV, life is pretty much the same as it's always been. The problem is getting everyone else to do the same.
Evan White
>so your psychological health is tied to whether or not others will have sex with you its a sad sad way to live You are either a brainlet or a troll. Can't figure out what does apply to you yet. Sexual satisfaction is an (*one of many*) important factor to psychological health, indeed. And by sexual satisfaction I don't mean whoring around and having sex with as many people as possible, but at least having one person to rely on and have stable relationship and love.
Carson Lopez
love is a just a feeling not all people have relationships, ofc they are losing something out of it, but it is not all in someones life, you can have a perfectly fine life without it and a lot of people choose to live that way
Daniel Hill
>excuse to justify your own shortcomings and unwillingness to change far fetched and wrong. Obviously you aren't capable on focusing, reading and comprehending written text. >you can always change and make decisions As I said, you aren't reading and/or understanding the topci. The whole point was about the difficulties we have in this society due to irresponsible previous generations, not about impossibilities.
Sebastian Morris
>There is no conservatism any more, we’ll only get it back after a war. The ballot box is designed to keep it from us Exactly this
Joseph Bell
The "Right" exists just to allow a platform to the Left, and forbid it from the actual Right so the Left don't say mean things about them.
Dominic Phillips
>far fetched and wrong. Obviously you aren't capable on focusing, reading and comprehending written text. its what you are saying you can face it and become a better person by struggle (the only way you can become a better person) or keep this resigned attitude and wallow in its filth
Easton Foster
>love is a just a feeling First of all, it's not just a feeling. This just shows how narrowed your perspective actually is. >not all people have relationships >you can have a perfectly fine life without it Right, but they would just fill their void with something else and than pretend life is great. Take as an example our modern western woman - They fuck around and embrace their oh so great careers until they become old and can't have kids anymore, becoming very sad or even depressed and suicidal. They were able to turn their focus from havingchildren and a family to the career in their youth, but their desires and need will overtake sooner or later. Not for all, but it does apply to most. Same goes for love. YOu may think its not important to a certain age, until you become depressed understanind that you have been/will be you r whole life completely alone.
Bentley Parker
>First of all, it's not just a feeling. This just shows how narrowed your perspective actually is. love you are describing is definetely a feeling deeper non-postmodern concept of love is a completely different concept so you are the narrow one here
>Right, but they would just fill their void with something else and than pretend life is great. you dont pretend anything you acnowledge that its missing from your life, deal with it and go on nobody can have everything
>until you become depressed understanind that you have been/will be you r whole life completely alone we all have our challenges, some have families, some dont, some have relationships, some dont it doesnt make them better people
Jeremiah Richardson
>Not undertanding that a human can act by both, acknowledging and ignoring a societal problem. >Not understanding that acknowledgment of predestined circumstances isn't implying resignation.
Hunter Kelly
then why are you a degenerate instead of getting out of it using predestination as an excuse to justify it
Aiden Watson
Dude ... >love you are describing is definetely a feeling No, it's not. I haven't even described love. All I said was that it's an important factor for psychological health, which you refused to accept.
>you acnowledge that its missing from your life, deal with it and go on 1. Not everyone is able to just "go on". In fact people who are trying to "go on" are unsatisfied which then mostly results in: 2. Dealing with by just finding something else to fill the void.
Obviously not everyone can have everything. And not everyone does even need everything. But the need to be wholesome satisfied is something that sets us into motion, to seek, to accompomlish something.
>it doesnt make them better people That's not the topic and no-one assumed that. But by having what they desire makes them happier people.
Dylan Mitchell
>No, it's not. I haven't even described love. All I said was that it's an important factor for psychological health, which you refused to accept. love is so much wider concept than the simplification of it you are trying to present here... >1. Not everyone is able to just "go on". In fact people who are trying to "go on" are unsatisfied which then mostly results in: heres a thing - sometimes in life you have to learn to deal with negatives, stuff you dont have, its a sign of maturity, either go out of your way to achieve it or accept it >2. Dealing with by just finding something else to fill the void. that is coping and an unhealthy way to deal with it you cant fill the void, as i said, you ahve to be mature, grown up, accept you dont ahve something and live on
> But the need to be wholesome satisfied is something that sets us into motion, to seek, to accompomlish something. being wholesome doesnt necessarily mean that you must have relationships or sex
>But by having what they desire makes them happier people. so does everything man can achieve, happiness does not rely solely on sexuality, it is merely a part of the human experience people live in different ways
Kayden Adams
>then why are you a degenerate instead of getting out of it First of all I did call myself a degenerate, because my only problem in life is pornography. There is nothing else like drugs, alcohol, video games etc. But as I tried to explain it earlier, it's an addiction which is rooted to the childhood and is know difficult to overcome, even after years of trying. If you had never an addiction, you probably don't know how difficult it is. I bet you would even fail to go for one week without Jow Forums or your phone. Try it, this should open your eyes to understanding.
>predestination as an excuse It's not an excuse, it's just factor for why so many people are dropping out of society, why many become degenerates, why our culture and state is falling. If everyone would have control over himself, as you try to falsly argue, then we wouldn't have so many problems with homosexuals, drug addicts, criminals and what not. They don't choose to be like that, but were, to some degree, put in their place.
Jayden Nguyen
I hate "just a feeling" argument, everything is just a feeling deconstructing every thing doesn't make these feelings less true. If everyone is programmed with this abstract thing, the abstract thing is real even if you can't touch it
Ethan Ross
>If you had never an addiction, you probably don't know how difficult it is yes however, it is not an impassable obstacle, but a challenge >I bet you would even fail to go for one week without Jow Forums or your phone ahhahaha m8 i dont even own a smartphone, but a nokia 3310
>It's not an excuse, it's just factor for why so many people are dropping out of society, why many become degenerates, why our culture and state is falling. If everyone would have control over himself, as you try to falsly argue, then we wouldn't have so many problems with homosexuals, drug addicts, criminals and what not. They don't choose to be like that, but were, to some degree, put in their place. excuse designed by the same people who are in that position no matter what society does NOTHING can EVER discount personal responsibility
David Scott
sorrry, sentence was said within a specific context, perhaps it came out wrong
Ethan Stewart
Big fallacy. You are picking one exception of human behaviour and then applying it onto a whole society, while I am talking about MOST humans, about COMMON behaviour and needs. Do we agree, that many individuals do form a society and therefore society is reflecting the condition of MOST people in this society?
Ayden Bennett
My fault for not reading previous text kek
Luke Cox
>while I am talking about MOST humans im talking about ALL humans humans who by part have one rpeference in one other preference
each life path is specific and has its own challenges, ambitions and desires
Jacob Allen
people are not society people are individuals society forms them society influences them but it is only they as individuals who have their own individual choice and form of life individuals who in turn comprise society
James Green
>Sure some top tier men will still pass on their genes by cuckoldry and p&d
If the kid is brought up by a single mother, the kid will likely end up in jail or fucked up anyway.
Caleb Price
>yes however, it is not an impassable obstacle, but a challenge No-one ever disagreed on that. In that case I have no idea why you even argued in the first place ...
>i dont even own a smartphone, but a nokia 3310 Whatever, it was just an example. Try anything else and you will have your problems.
>no matter what society does >NOTHING can EVER discount personal responsibility I disagree on that. Obviously everyone has to take his personal responsibility, yet it doesn't give you the opportunity to change your life 180°.
>no matter what society does Try saying that to the child born in an african hut for being an outcast. Or tell the new born slav that he is responsible for his vodka drunk dad, who beats him and his mother and for becoming a depressed fuck. Come on, man. Get a grip on reality.
Blake Clark
Any normal functioning male can find a mate in todays society.
Yes, there's some easier pitfalls today which can lead to isolation but it's not hard to overcome.
If you really wanted to tackle the real issues of why men isolate themselves or have trouble of finding a mate you'd have to give up a bunch of positives.
Do you really think alpha chad sleeps with all your women all the time in a gigantic gangbang?
Jace Hall
Here is an example:
David Thomas
>Whatever, it was just an example. Try anything else and you will have your problems. i wont because im an adult human being who can rise above urges and addictions its self control and healthy state of mind
>I disagree on that. Obviously everyone has to take his personal responsibility, yet it doesn't give you the opportunity to change your life 180°. dont you see a problem with a philosophy which excludes personal responsibility like yours does? anyone is free to do anything then >Come on, man. Get a grip on reality with these views you ar the last person that has any right to call others to get a grip with reality
>Try saying that to the child born in an african hut for being an outcast. >Or tell the new born slav that he is responsible for his vodka drunk dad, who beats him and his mother and for becoming a depressed fuck. so these people are automatically bad and we should jsut acecpt they will be evil really bigoted and selfish view of the world
David Jackson
At least one of the women who rejected you is on well fare and you're taxes go to them.
Jonathan Cox
this view you hold is literally incompatible with civilization and basic decency it excludes people from moral judgement and pulls them out of good life because they belong to the "others" group
Nathaniel Turner
>each life path is specific and has its own challenges, ambitions and desires Yet it is oriented at global standards or natural needs.
>people are not society >people are individuals People are Individuals. (Older) individuals form society. Society does influence (younger) people. Influence. They are influenced, manipulated. When you are born, lets say 6 years old, going to school, are you a responsible individual at this moment? Can you act responsible already? Or where do you actions derive from? By own personal choice and will? Or is it parenting, the peer group, teachers, society in general?
Christopher Thomas
>Yet it is oriented at global standards no its not, there is no such a thing as global standards in this personal context
again we have your weird philosophy which justifies amorality on basis that its just like that
Jason Morris
>Do you really think alpha chad sleeps with all your women all the time in a gigantic gangbang?
He literally does this though. A lot of dudes can't imagine this happening just because they never were in a position to do it.
Ian White
You say that but you have never had to deal with niggers about the fighting thing.
Gavin Allen
>i wont because im an adult human being [...] Just like the addict says "I can stop whenever I want". You are probably a worse degenerate than I did call myself. :D
>problem with a philosophy which excludes personal responsibility No, I don't have a problem with it, because it doesn't exclude personal responsibility. Some traits are predestined by genetícs, through parenting and whatnot. >anyone is free to do anything then That's the mistake. You aren't differenciating between. Chilrden, Adults and Elders. >with these views you ar the last person that has any right to call others to get a grip with reality And you are a hypocrit by telling others, that they can become whoever they want. If you have a flawless life then not because you put effort into it, but because you where born in lucky circumstances like rich and/or educated parents, country etc.
>really bigoted and selfish view of the world It's not bigoted and surely not selfish. That reality and this is why helping is important instead of telling others (like you do) "just stop being degenerate".
Camden Reyes
As someone that had one girlfriend in highschool and only had sex a handful of times, Ive managed to go 6 years without a girlfriend or sex. I may have had a couple oppurtunities, but i was never graced with reading body language well or taking the subtle hints. They key to going this long, is acceptance and moving on. Accept you may never have another girlfriend, accept you may never have sex. My life has shown a net positive since. Got a half decent job, got a couple raises within a couple months. Going good for me now
Eli Gutierrez
>You are probably a worse degenerate than I did call myself. :D im not really a degenerate, far from it that i dont have problems and negatives, i do, but they are of a different nature addictions have never been a problem to me, but other things, its personality i guess, everone is different
whatever you say im sticking to my stance that you put too much weight on predestination and too little on personal resposibility everyone has >That's the mistake. You aren't differenciating between. Chilrden, Adults and Elders. each one of them has their own challenges of their respective nature, just like men and women are different, in nature as human they have same challenges and opportunity, but in different aspects
>It's not bigoted and surely not selfish its juvenile and comforting in the least its easier to say your environmetna nd otehrs are at fault than grabbing the reins and assume responsibility yourself its one of the basic things you have to learn while growing up unless you intend to be a manchild for the reast of your life
