How can A*er*c*ns defend nuking Japan?

How can A*er*c*ns defend nuking Japan?

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You cant defeat a spiritually mobilized nation through conventional methods.

My only problem is that Germany surrendered before they could be nuked too.

>You cant defeat a spiritually mobilized nation through conventional methods.
>germany 1945
>??????????????????????????

Holy fuck, Amerimutts are actually this stupid.

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Kike, get off this board now!

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It saved millions of lives.

Japan was easily the most savage and destructive force in that entire war. Say what you want about Germany and the mass slaughter of Jews, but at least they treated their Allied prisoners like human beings. Yes even the Russian POWs that they purposefully underfed and beat and shot. This was better than Japan.

Japan's ferocity in that war was really fucking understated. They were spraying bubonic plague at villages just to see what would happen.

put our niggers into japan and within a decade they will seppuku nuke themselves

we don't have to.

Well, there would've been a large chance that is if the USA didn't nuke Japan, that Russia would've invaded thus making a Tokyo tall, like the Berlin wall.

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>Tokyo tall
*Tokyo wall

Fuck me

>that Russia
*then Russia

Are you aware that for every German that was killed during Berlin, 4 Russian troops died? We'd have nuked Germany if it had been ready.

They started it. We finished it. Talk shit get hit nigga.

They would have also made it ten times shittier and probably a depressed commieblock nation. Nothing Russia expands to ever turns into anything good.

Yeah, fuck man, imagine how different everything would be if there was a Tokyo wall.

Because the surrender terms of japan were not acceptable, there is no negotiation only unconditional surrender.

How can Japan justify a pussy ass sneak attack on our Pacific Fleet on a Sunday morning,that fucked us up and ended up killing over 2000 guys ? They basically made us knew them .

>Gorbachev-san, prease tearu down this warru

The japs deserved it for invading China without reason. Murdering millions of innocent people. 30 million fucking people. You fucking weeabos can't see past the fucking anime and your degeneracy to understand the absolute fucking horror Imperial Japan inflicted upon every single inch of fucking land they occupied. Every Japanese civilian was culpable for supporting their government. Every burned Jap was a good one. Every jap city should have burned to the ground or have been nuked just so they know what happened in Nanking, in Shanghai, in Beijing, in Manila, in Jakarta, and so on. They deserved far worse than they got. The Chinese should have torn apart that scum Hirohito but no. The Americans defended him. The only good jap is a dead one.

The guy in the last panel is totally correct.

If nuking Japan minimized US casualties, it was entirely justified. Next time don't start a war with a superior opponent.

>Blah blah blah it ended up lowering Japanese casualties too!

This is true, but not important. If I'm fighting a war, and a particular weapon will lead to my victory at a lower cost to *me*, I'm going to use it. Don't like it? Surrender.

>implying mutts existed back then and not whites flexing.
Oh no no no no no bwahahhahahahahhahahaha.

Kek.

That's just because the Soviets were careless about their men. They relied very heavily on their numbers and did not place a big emphasis on individual soldiers. The Brits, French and Americans did not have these horrible K/D ratio as the Russians.

Also, are you implying that Americans actually gave a fuck about Russians dying against Germany?

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If America hadn't decidiedly ended the war then russia would have annexed part of Japan. Instant death and recreation is far favorable over the rotting gut stench of Russia and Russian communism. You really wanted to go down the path Japan? Remember you had a post-war economic miracle, that shit wouldn't have happened with Russia, and without the bomb you'd be dealing with their faggot asses.

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wrong. at the end of the war it was 1:1 with defenders advantage in the city.
at the start it was high stat due to surprise.
once soviets got their shit together they fucked the germans.

I realize this is bait, but Japan was completely prepared to fight to the death of every last man woman and child. That's how Total War works. Keep in mind that Japan did not surrender after the first atomic bomb was dropped, it took two to get them to finally agree to a surrender.

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There's no evidence of that. The Soviet Army wasn't the Mongol horde you saw in the movies. They had very innovative and successful tactics and strategies where they didn't need the mass "Enemy at the Gates"-esque charges.

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Wrong, japan had offered total surrender bar one condition: keep the emperor.

Murica didn't even respond to it.

The only reasons the Japs surrendered was the Soviet invasion of Manchuria which destroyed most of their army left and the fact that the US submarine blockade was actually effective.

We firebombed the shit out of Tokoyo. The difference is we were able to do the same thing with 1 bomb, used twice. Would you have rather we used conventional bombs instead? Do you really think the Japanese Empire were ready to surrender prior to the use? If so then, do you think we nuked them just to test and see how many we could kill?

The Emperor was a war criminal. His keeping was a disgrace.

Irrelevant, the nukes were not nessecary. the japs were willing to surrender before the nukes. The nukes were a show of power.

If I may, I guarantee OP will not reply because I'm going to just tell the truth and OP won't be able to say anything in response. Acting like a retard isn't humorous OP, you're a fool.

Nearing the end of the war, in 1945, Imperial Japanese Troops were ready to die for the sake of their Emperor. The bond of the Emperor to the people went beyond a political figure, as it was believed he was a deity. Near the end of the war when the Emperor began to distribute leaflets ordering the surrender of troops before a possible mainland invasion, Japanese troops believed this to be propaganda by the enemy, some even attempting to storm the palace (yes, Japanese troops launched an attack on their own palace) because of a possible "enemy subversion".

You would be fighting on foreign soil. Moving miles inland through geography arguably worse than Vietnam but much more known by the enemy. Not that this was needed to justify the use of a nuclear bomb against an enemy. Remember Pearl Harbor: a surprise attack, an ambush. One American life back then was worth every Japanese life. The Japanese were brutal and relentless, the suffering of P.O.W's couldn't fit into a library of organized encyclopedias if one were to categorize it.

>spiritually mobilized
>germany
Yes the children and elderly were very spiritually mobilized under threat of death to fight the Russians closing in on their location.

Completely different dynamic, different core values, Hitler was not considered Holy or a God.
>ad hominem
And this is where we begin to sage.

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because it was awesome. why shouldn't we nuke our enemies? natural law would dictate that the first nation that developed the nuke deserves to rule the lesser humans. nuking japan was like slapping them in the face with a giant radioactive mutt dick. we humiliated them so badly they've been sleeping with faggy love pillows ever since.

exactly, how else do you win wars?

Pretty much this, Japan isn’t some innocent little anime character in this. Rape of Nanking, anyone?

>japs were willing to surrender
When will this meme end?

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>Japs were willing to surrender
In what timeline? Fighting continued well past the end of the War. The only show of force was allowing the Japanese troops to even SEE our generals step foot on their soil, they knew the security risk and THAT was the domination, the act of it. The Emperor wanted to surrender, not the soldiers, not the people.

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>firebombing a country to death while cutting off any access they have to anywhere with submarines doesn't make them want to surrender.

Wilhelm 2 would've been so proud, but you just had to commit mass murder. Obama can fucking die in a shithole for all I care, but the only thing he's ever done right is apologise for the nuking of civilians.

and they would've obeyed their emperor.

They were a message. They should have been harsher in the peace treaty.

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chink insects had it coming

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>and they would have obeyed their Emperor
Which is exactly why they continued fighting past WWII despite repeated announcements and notices from the Emperor himself, who was allowed to stay in power because the removal of his deific figure would prove more challenging in rebuilding Japan than proxy ruling.

You can stop now user, we know you're retarded.

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>had the opportunity to surrender
>did not surrender
wait for it...
>got nuked
>surrendered
Whaooo rely mks you tnk

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Are you fucking serious? The Chinese people have a right to defend themselves from jap aggression. The root of the issue was Jap entitlement and imperialism.

the manhattan project wasn't done yet

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Calm down Xi-jingping

keep whining Wei, the Japanese have a right to expand and dominate the lesser "cultures" that inhabit a region currently known as "China"

>Innocent Native Americans
YEAH KILLEM
>Innocent Germans
YEAH KILLEM
>Innocent Germans again
YEAH KILLEM
>Innocent Japanese
YEAH KILLEM
>Innocent Koreans
YEAH KILLEM
>Innocent Vietnamese
YEAH KILLEM
>innocent Iraqis
YEAH KILLEM
>Innocent Serbians
YEAH KILLEM
>Innocent Afghanis
YEAH KILLEM
>Innocent Libyans
YEAH KILLEM
>Innocent Palestinians
YEAH KILLEM
>Innocent iranians
YEAH WE NEED TO KILLEM MAGA

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>chinese
>people

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I'm sick of weebs.
>lesser cultures
>Chinese lesser than Jap
At least the PRC isn't a hub for degeneracy like modern J*pan is. You're just a weeb faggot who took his love of "muh ethnostate" too far.

Because in America you have to test things on animals before you can test on humans.

Best reply yet.

We wanted to and we did. No one could stop us.

There I defended it

I don't think we've killed any wops yet

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This.

When you have a racial majority that isn't sliding near 50 percent, making major decisions for the good of the country doesn't need further explanation.

Mmhmm, yes, yes, don't you have to go fall in a suicide net and then eat feral dog for dinner? Chinks cannot even kill themselves properly

Must be a newfag. Never seen Chinese rekt vids. Chinese are animals.

>innocent Italians
YEAH KILLE... wait, DEVOUR ALL PIZZA

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>ching chong chang
go back to eating fetuses

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What possible reason would we have NOT to use our technological advantage to cut short an incredibly bloody conflict?

Cry more, nip-lover.

Zukov was a Chad. He even rode a horse that Stalin couldnt in red square celebrations and lived afterwards

I get you, as a Fingol, being upset that your closest cousins got nuked. But 24.5k of my brothers died before the bombs. Not so after. And if every last Nip had to die to save even one US Marine, I would gladly make that trade in a heartbeat, even if we were only in that clusterfuck of a war for pre-Zog.

And if you really have that big of a problem with Homo sapiens using technology, the very thing that made us nature's apex predator, to win a war, then feel free to go live in Africa where technology is still at a prehuman level.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Italian_Campaign_(World_War_II)
>500,000+ Axis Casualties
>200,000 Italian military casualties
>150,000 Italian civilian casualties

the fuck are you talking about, we've killed plenty of em

lol

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Because they were disgusting savages that deserved it.

OP starts a historical conversation, yet knows nothing about history: part 60072736

They sent those conditions to the Soviet Union. A nation they were not even at war with at the time.
Japan had every chance to negotiate terms or offer surrender to the United States, United Kingdom, Australia, China, etc. the nations they were actually fighting.

The war with Japan was what Roosevelt needed in order to get the war he wanted with Germany.

Even in 1941, America was sending their soldiers to fight on behalf of the Jews. Sorry vets, you were really fighting to create Israel.

You bombed us first. Salty island chink.

Japan totally deserved its two nukes, I can't fathom that these retards dick ride Japan because "Brazed Nihon" The reason why China is the way it is to day is because of Japan's aggression if Japan never attack Chiang kai shrekarroni would of defeated the Communist even with all the corruption in his ranks

This

Actually, two conditions. Keep the emperor and no concessions to the Soviet Union. It was ignored because the US government was crawling with (((commie))) spies.

Japan turned he war into total war before the US dropped the nuke.

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The subhumans had it coming.
They loved it too.
Inside of every nip is an american trying to get out.

Remember even the Germans supported the Chinese before the Japan join the Axis.

Should have nuked you guys too.

The Japanese can't talk shit about "honorable warfare" after what they were tried to pull with Unit 731

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What's to defend? It was most definitely the right thing to do in any context

The fact you believe a Chinese person knows what Jow Forums is shows you're a stupid hillbilly

We needed to see if the bomb worked, Japan was a suitable target.

Yeah and what happened? The fucking Chinks died. We let them live and you got the Chinese red menace. You should be ashamed of nuking Japan. That was all (((Churchill))) sweet-talking crippleprez FDR.

All in all a shitshow. We should have helped Hitler. At least America didn't let (((Stalin))) take all of Europe. Might not have been worth it anyway with all the ragheads and apes raping everything though.

We fought the wrong guys.

We did the Japanese a favor imagine if Mad Jack arrived on Japanese and start exterminating the nips.

In Indonesia they were welcomed to free them of Dutch occupation, i’ve never heard of Japanese killing Indonesians for fun.

T. Indonesian

More truth to this than you realize.

This thread really reveals the Amerilard brainwashing

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W R O N G

All statistics show 1941 was the WORST year in terms of k/d for the germans for every year except the very end of 1945 (which was still positive) on the eastern front. In fact, the k/d ratio of the german army rose through 1944 before plumetting in 1945 (though it remained a fair bit above 1 to 1)

Turns out k/d doesn't win wars. When the germans were "reckless" (and they were a bit reckless, if you see it as a manpower attrition warfare) they were making huge gains in territory. Yet when they were having very good loss ratios (even when adjusting for the population discrepancy with the USSR), they were nearly always on the retreat.

But yeah, no. The germans had an above 1:1 k/d until the very end of the war; they only dipped under that if you adjust for the size of the USSR.

I think this only emphasizes how in the end, the human resources of Germany were squandered by making improper decisions and changing strategy midway due to a flawed perception of the reality of the war on the side of Hitler.

It was less deadly than invading and killing them all. Don't let anyone tell you Japs are weak. They were going to fight to the last man until the Emperor convinced them.
>le 34% election
Yeah, Hitler was real popular.

>honorable warfare

The nips employed raghead tier tactics all over the Pacific. They would pretend to surrender then pull grenades as our troops approached, put bombs on civilians in Saipan and even used suicide bombers.

Fuck you OP you historically illiterate cunt, they tortured our prisoners of war and deserved everything they got.

>once soviets got their shit together they fucked the germans.
By that point Germs were fighting with 12 year old kids and 50 year old men while Russians had tens of thousands of tanks supported by hundreds of american bombers.
Not exactly what I'd be proud of, you may as well add women and non-combatant kids if you're gonna pad your numbers that much.

they can't, but they try

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We don't feel like we have to.
ITT: Badass occultist Americans tout Manifest Desinty and control of international morality with the mighty dollar

Did you see what they did to the Chinks. We went easy on them with just 2 nukes.

Based

Because nuking the two biggest hubs for Christianity is just another goyimcidence.

America was pozzed with jews ever since slavery bought those jewish slave merchants. Literally everything done afterwards is result of jewish tricks.