I mean, facism is just communism but people can still own stuff.
Why do communists hate facists and vice versa
Tyler Ward
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Wyatt Scott
we have achieved synthesis
Bentley Rogers
>I mean, facism is just communism but people can still own stuff.
Holy fuck, you must be a woman.
Joseph Bennett
Because their social and worldviews are directly opposed to each other. Communists view fascism as capitalism in decay out to destroy the "workers revolution" and fascists view communists as a band of degenerates out to destroy their social values.
Jonathan James
When have you last thought about the far-left commie killers, who murdered tens of millions in their countries during peacetime? Those so-called “worker’s paradises” were turned into prisons, with borders closed against people from escaping and getting out. An Iron Curtain. 1Sec Stalin and Chairman Mao are infamous for their high body counts, as I already mentioned, in the several tens of millions.
Jayden Smith
>fascism is communism
>communism, a STATELESS, CLASSLESS society is adjacent to fascism
whoa....
Aaron Hall
The ideas of the far-left are so bad that when they are put into practice, everyone tries to leave because their lives are under threat. However, today there are some people who march in the streets with hammer-and-sickle symbols, which represent these terror states of the 20th Century, like the Soviet Union. When will politicians denounce and disavow the far-left imagery? After all, killing on the scale of several tens of millions is something that must never happen again, the political activity which took place under the hammer-and-sickle.
Hudson Sanchez
>Communism = economic equity
>Neo-liberalism = identity (race, gender,..) equity
Fascism and Nazism were simply reactionary movements to the self-destructive idiotic "left" one: communism.
One day we'll have our reactionary movement against neo-liberalism and we'll start bashing heads and expelling people again
Chase Cook
But communism has classes, although it's not supposed to be that way.
In traditional communism, it's government workers
and everybody else
In Juche "Socialism" It goes Intellectual, worker, farmer.
Leo Martin
But it’s time to talk about far-left atrocities. Why would you try to cover that up?
The blood of the slain cries out from history for recognition. Several tens of of millions murdered behind an Iron Curtain. That’s what happens when extreme left ideas are put into practice. Mass murder and closed borders keeping people in.
Why wouldn’t you want people knowing, discussing, and maintaining awareness of those crimes?
Robert Edwards
I don't want to cover those atrocities up.
I was responding to an user who said communism doesn't have classes.
I wasn't trying to hide anything!
Jordan Collins
And of course I know of the atrocities, and I fully acknowledge them. What was the point you were trying to get across?
Jayden Russell
>why do communists hate fascists and vice versa.
Competing interests
"sheeple"
William Evans
People can own stuff under communism. It differentiates between personal and private property.
Hunter Lewis
>But communism has classes, although it's not supposed to be that way.
>In traditional communism, it's government workers and everybody else
you have absolutely no idea what you're talking about
Michael Collins
>>although it's not supposed to be that way
key words
Brody Smith
and so you admit that communism has never been achieved and it was merely the starting stages, also known as socialism.
>In traditional communism, it's government workers and everybody else
literally contradicts what communism is. do you know what stateless implies? i suggest you begin reading marx before criticizing his ideas.
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Elijah Baker
I know that communism isn't supposed have classes. But don't you see how government officials live a WAY better life than most others when there is communism afloat?
Ethan Bennett
which is why the state shouldn't be trusted on to dissolve from the inside but destroyed outright.
Daniel Jones
im not even sure what you're referring to. stalinism? because that's revisionist marxist ideology and shouldn't be used as a true reflection of marxist ideology. he was corruption personified like any other autocrat.
what do you mean by communism afloat? it's close to being achieved? communism has never been close to being achieved i'm afraid because of corrupt retards like stalin
Bentley Sullivan
No, he's right. See: every Communist/Socialist government. The system doesn't work as advertised.
Connor Wright
>corrupt
ho gosh yes
>retard
hell no. Stalin would run circles around any current head of a major country. Except maybe, well, Putin.
Gabriel Baker
There is no reason to discuss theoretical Communist society when every attempt to create it has clearly shown the theory is wrong.
Parker Brooks
well i've already explained the ussr and how not abiding to marxist ideology fucked them over. i think you're just reading too much propaganda on Jow Forums to make a truly informed opinion.
i use the term loosely, im not referring to his intellect, just as a general pejorative.
Oliver Ross
Yeah, Stalinism, Maoism. And I also mentioned Juche Socialism, otherwise known as Kimilsungism
Wyatt Hall
>i've already explained the ussr and how not abiding to marxist ideology fucked them over
You have not. Please, explain.
Sebastian Smith
see stalinism was revisionist. by not eliminating the state, stalin formed a cult of personality and total autocratic rule. this is the complete opposite of what communism is meant to achieve. when corrupt politicians like him bastardize marx's work, it's no surprise people can't take the ideology seriously. but it's funny how rampant corruption is in capitalism but people seem to accept that because capitalism thrives on corruption. makes me think....
Angel Baker
Which form of communism is best than?
The only major communist countries are Cuba and North Korea. Choose one
Cameron Martinez
>which form
communism. not this revisionist bullshit.
Nathan Edwards
Does this sound like communism, faggot?
Grayson Scott
Most of it, yeah.
Charles Davis
t. hasn't read marx
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Leo Flores
Than you don't even know what communism or fascism are, typical uneducated Amerimutt that gets his information from buzzfeed.
Jacob Perez
buzzfeed is AIDS
Caleb Allen
Stalin was not the first Marxist head of state who didn't dissolve the state. He followed established Marxist-Leninist precedent. Regardless, what reason do you have to think dissolving the USSR in, say 1924 would have led to True Gay Communism™?
Robert Cook
Define "corruption."
Henry Barnes
ex.
Did you see soviets hanging out with other countries that didn't follow some form of communism? No
Juan Green
ex.
Did the original Communists overthrow their shitty Tsar. Yes. That's justice.
Liam Reed
hmmm....
Carter Bennett
Indeed.
Logan Jackson
ex.
Did Stalin put political enemies in Gulags? yes
Rejection of weakness
Dominic Barnes
The Bolsheviks weren't Russians.
Aiden Wilson
And I'm pretty sure Stalin was fucking masculine as hell.
Jacob Sanders
So did the Romans, Spartans, ancient Egyptians, Byzantines... by your retarded logic, that means they were LE LITERALLY COMMUNISTS.
Connor Butler
Communism = anti-white
Fascism = pro-white
/BREAD
Matthew Walker
>Communism = rejection of natural law
>Fascism = natural law applied to man
Fix'd.
Dylan Hughes
Very doubtful. Stalin was probably 5'5", one of his arms was crippled, his face was badly scarred from smallpox, he drank heavily, and all his "friends" were Jews. On the other hand, he did have four children and he was certainly a formidable politician.
Justin Adams
but all places have POW camps
You are confusing POW camps and political prison camps
Nathaniel Gonzalez
These posts are identical.
Eli Bell
>implying that;s bad
Even back in the days of the founding fathers, they had bills and prisons to punish dangerous political threats (sedition and treason acts). LIKE OMG JOHN ADAMS WAS A LITERAL GOMMUNIST!!1
Matthew Clark
Jaxon Morris
>facism is just communism but people can still own stuff.
Blake Clark
>Not implying that's bad...
Blake Gutierrez
>allowing TRAITORS that want you and your children dead to roam free is not bad!
Blake Moore
> applied to the white race (man)
double fixd
Lucas Ward
POW camps are good.
Political prisons are good
never said they were bad
>Retarded? Have a snickers.
Justin Campbell
Yes and when has that ever been acccomplished in a country that has attempted communism? It always ends with a really powerful police state owning everything. That's how it is in reality. People who say otherwise are in denial.
Ayden Evans
Well, it is a very simplified explanation.
Sebastian Nguyen
Stop putting word in my mouth.
Kayden Robinson
Don't necessarily. They agree on a lot of things like brexit.
Carson Murphy
Libertarianism is natural law.
Fascism is generally just socialism mixed with racism.
Josiah Gomez
>Libertarianism is natural law
La Creatura Britanica ...
Christian Rogers
Because fascism born as a conservative answer to communism, as a way to calm the social conflicts while at the same time mantaining the social structure. Commies are fascists's natural enemies. In fact, USA funded many fascistic states around the world under the deal of stopping commies. They calmed the social problems with mass murder though
Jack Young
>but people can still own stuff
That's the key
Ethan Adams
Both love authoritarianism and dictatorship.
Hunter Allen
Fascism and Communism are both critical of neoliberal capitalism, they hate each other is because of violence. Fascists hate commies because they think they're gonna kill the majority, Communists bash the fash for the minority. In reality, they're just self defending themselves and have had a huge misunderstanding with each other.
Ryder Wright
>fascism is racist
Cameron Jenkins
facism had a golden age, communism never did, despite being tried more than once
they also want a monopoly on socialist policies
thirdly, many communists are not white, so have a seperate homeland for whites, and other races, really, really pisses them off, because everyone really depends on white people, whether they admit or not
Daniel Reyes
>I mean, facism is just communism but people can still own stuff.
Luke Robinson
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