It's time to face the facts, America is the only civilized nation with a gun problem like we have...

It's time to face the facts, America is the only civilized nation with a gun problem like we have. Jow Forums loves to argue that people will still have guns and crime will "somehow" get worse if common sense gun laws are created. However, Australia, the UK, and Japan are all gun-free and...they have NO mass shootings

It's quite simple, really. They had a mass shooting or two and made the right decision to get rid of guns. Now, they have no mass more mass shootings. Banning and confiscating assault rifles would stop mass shootings and save lives. Why would anyone be against that?

It won't be easy, but in the end it will be worth it to pass a better America on to future generations.

Attached: this-is-not-a-well-regulated-militia-and-this-is-28835520.png (500x522, 112K)

Other urls found in this thread:

youtube.com/watch?v=2dZLeEUE940&t=34s
patents.google.com/patent/US6506148B2/en
steemit.com/politics/@satrebil/an-ar-15-won-t-stop-the-government-think-again
twitter.com/AnonBabble

time to get saged

after the escalating calls by the left for violence against political opponents you are not going to convince anyone here to disarm themselves in a thousand years
you might as well put your energy to better use

Really, the UK doesn't have mass shootings? Are you fucking retarded?

>The People are the militia
?Well Regulated means in working order, not under regulation.
>The right to the people to keep and bare arms is a separate clause and has nothing to do with the militia.
>The second amendment says nothing about muskets
>Yellow and white text
>Cherry picking
/thread

You know, If you were a 'true' patriot you'd turn those guns in and stop supporting the NRA because you'd realize that guns are a detriment to this nation.

My stepdaughter should not have to be afraid of going to school because the NRA and gun owners want to allow maniacs to own guns. That is unacceptable in a civilized society!

Sage

>that pic related
Times haven't changed. High capacity rifles existed as far back as the 1780's.

These things held 22 rounds and could fire rapidly. Demonstrating this kind of firepower is how Lewis and Clark got to California and back alive.

When the constitution was drafted, technology like this was well known.

youtube.com/watch?v=2dZLeEUE940&t=34s

Attached: Screenshot 2018-06-26 at 10.58.44 PM.png (1264x628, 899K)

Switzerland laughs are your tears, liberal scum, tell your stepdaughter to enjoy riding Tyrone, Paco and Omar's dicks. You disgust me.

Switzerland has nothing to do with this because they're neutral.

get bent

Attached: civ_vs_gov.jpg (835x776, 119K)

That's right deflect.

Attached: 1518699911674.jpg (500x500, 135K)

gun grabbers are irrational

Attached: gun_control_interests.jpg (750x1091, 175K)

It's true, though. Stop grasping at straws.

I will when you stop killing kids.

Attached: 1519397623613.jpg (720x917, 137K)

The founding fathers created the 2nd at a time where civilians had the same weaponry as the military. Its far more restricted now. America has more guns than people so if guns were an issue we would be #1 in homicide and crime rate but nope. Shit holes around the world ban guns yet have higher homicide and crime rates.

Where does the Second Amendment say "musket"? And where does it say "militia" means anything other than "all able bodied male citizens between the ages of 17 and 45"?

I feel strongly this needed an ifunny watermark

Attached: PicsArt_06-27-12.22.56.png (500x522, 311K)

> be dumb ass OP
> forget America is not even in the top 50 for gun crime
> be gun control nations have highest gun crime

REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

Attached: 1529717418174.jpg (1287x1691, 560K)

Attached: 1503792888612.png (526x268, 26K)

is it a gun problem or a dickhead problem?

I've found that next to all these posts is a little thingie, that I can click on and hide shill posts. I like to think of it as wishing the shill into the cornfield.

Attached: the holy wink and a smile.jpg (300x230, 25K)

Well in a country where there are more guns than people yet is not even near the top of the list in homicide I would say guns are not the problem but culture sure is.

Niggers are not actually people. Times have changed, shouldn't our citizenship and voting laws?

Attached: OccupyRetardation.png (640x640, 34K)

mandatory close of thread

Attached: 15115885646583794037397429847147.png (621x1024, 644K)

The technology exists to manipulate your nervous system through EMPs at specific frequencies from being in proximity of active television sets or computer monitors.

patents.google.com/patent/US6506148B2/en

Attached: 1527393376513.jpg (612x611, 35K)

At least you're not a meme flaggot, OP. But you're still gayer than Liberace.

Attached: 1st Amendment.jpg (552x714, 51K)

> Doesn’t care about automatics restriction
> Doesn’t care about explosives restriction
> Doesn’t care about projectile explosives restriction
> Doesn’t care about restriction on armed armored vehicles
> Doesn’t care about restriction on armed jets
> BUT MUH RIFLES

Yfw when you realize that gun nuts don’t actually give a shit. They just like to complain like bitches.

I present to you the puckle gun, made in 1718, 60 years before the American revolution, long before the second amendment was written.

Attached: 34A3C16A-C99C-40DA-A351-B879560E084A.png (660x314, 228K)

bang nigger!

Guns are also a great investment. They only go up in value.

Here is a revolver rifle made in 1580, 196 years before 1776

Attached: 85DF71AC-CA3A-4AAB-A9EA-D7C512583262.jpg (3648x2052, 878K)

>Mass shootings in US
>No mass shootings in Finland, Switzerland, Austria, Serbia.

Food for thought OP. You dumb faggot.

Attached: 1527267997544.jpg (840x840, 307K)

There are over 300 million firearms already in circulation in America. What is the anti gun lefts plan? More laws? It's already illegal to murder and use your gun in crime what will make criminals follow laws? More laws?

Attached: JoinNRA.jpg (1197x2086, 313K)

learn english

or you can do both...

I love how people expect Americans to personally solve the worlds problems by sending people money. Yea that will change the culture that creates their shit holes.

love this

Attached: 1527302220959.jpg (1320x1112, 373K)

Why don't you gun hating faggots sack up and come and take them from me? Quit shitposting on the internet and throwing temper tantrums in grocery stores like the little bitchboys you are.

START GOING DOOR TO DOOR AND CONFISCATING WEAPONS. I DARE YOU.

>America is the only civilized nation with a gun problem like we have

Complete bullshit, do some research of your own. Everything you believe has been debunked many times, simpleton.

Your stepdaughter?

Got yourself a roastie eh?

Roll the memes boys!

We may need them soon if you faggots keep acting a fool.

>the NRA and gun owners want to allow maniacs to own guns
They don't. Otherwise you would own guns
>My stepdaughter
Like pottery

The civilians the founding fathers wanted to protest had the same weapons as the military. You think the founders never thought firearms would advance?!

Is anyone here militia?

I am. We do background checks on our members and we train with our weapons. It is a lot of fun and I get a sexondary enjoyment out of it knowing the rest of the world can’t partake in a voluntary militia the way American’s can.

We are the wealthiest nation in the world and you are telling me we can't afford to give people a helping hand? Are you serious?

That will come in due time. Right now I think a better approach is to use the ballot box and logical arguments to sway people to our side.

"times have changed, shouldnt our immigration laws?"

America gives a ton of aide and also provides military protection for multiple countries which allows them to invest in their own people as we let ours suffer so spare me the guilt trip.

One of the main reasons we have illegal immigration problems is because of our welfare state.

You cunts have been trying to get guns banned for decades and even with a borderline commie in the White House and a supermajority in Congress you couldn't do shit.

>Will come in due time

What are you waiting for you fucking coward? Come and fucking get them. You better hope you have more bullets than I do.

>What are you waiting for you fucking coward? Come and fucking get them. You better hope you have more bullets than I do.

You talk tough now, but one day when an armed confiscation squad from your local police rolls up to your house at 3am and demands that you hand your guns over you won't be talking so tough any more.

Of course, I hope to see more laws passed before it ever has to come to that.

Obama was one of the worst things that ever happened to America. He will only be remembered for being a half black president.

Annnnnnnnd kill yourself

sage

Saw this post, looked over at my unregistered AR-15 completed from an 80% lower receiver, and grinned smugly. Every single one of you lefty pricks can go fuck yourself, you're never taking it away from me.

thou shalt not infringe, bitch.

Jefferson owned two 22 round capacity .46 bore rifles that were Austrian military standard issue starting in 1780 and superior to American military firearm standards through the Mexican-American War (some 60 years later). There is no reason why I shouldnt be allowed the same firearms as my nation's military.

Soon I will use it on your mother lol

Everything the anti gun left wants to pass will only affect law abiding citizens because they are the only ones who obey laws or cops.

Before any of you anti-gun faggots. Hold up Australia as being a shining example of what a gun-free country is like. I thought you might want to see this news article.

Attached: sydshooting.jpg (1785x1263, 488K)

Do you seriously not realize how many people own guns in this country or are you just being a troll?

Your "armed confiscation squads" will get cut down inside a fucking lunch break. Fuck outta here you moron.

most cops are former military and gun owners they will not all agree or follow through with this. They know who the real threat is in this country and its not NRA members.

all those murders and mass shootings at NRA events by gun nuts who are there to see guns and walk around with theirs yea they are the real problem lol

I know this is slide/bait, but I just wanted to remind everyone that white Americans being well-armed is quite literally the only lynchpin keeping Western Civilization alive.
Once that goes, it's full 1984 but even worse boot stomping down from the hebrews and full European enslavement to the vibrant ooga boo mudkip.
The only hope at that point will be that the chinks glass the nig zone and hopefully take all the kikes out in the process in order to maintain some sort of civilization, even if it is an insectoid one.

Attached: world without whites.jpg (948x676, 94K)

ok, it is this issue

and the video games instead of summer jobs issue

1. we have a well regulated militia, it is called

> the lacrosse team

and you can ask for the archives of Jow Forums posts outlining the plan to train our highschool girls how to fire M687 artillery shells

this is basically the proposal

we have a militia

2. we don't need Hector to mow the lawn

we need to stop pretending that

> some jobs are better than others

because I fucking hate this and it just turns people into absolute pissants

I mean mow the fucking lawn, son

this is not fucking Siddhartha

this is not religious romance

mow the fucking lawn

what are you standing there for

is that some new game

would I like it

of course not

because Jow Forums is a fucking game

btw what the fuck is real life

Do you seriously not realize that the United States government has tanks, bombs, and drones at their disposal?

Your little armed resistance would be no match for some dude piloting a drone from thousands of miles away.

Didn't Cho get the high score with nothing but pistols? It's been a long time I forget.

Literally no longer possible to ban whatever your definition of assault rifle is.

Time to do that would have been 60 years ago.

We gotta learn to co-exist with them and stop bullying people to the point they decide to murder as many people as possible (with or without a gun).

It's better to die on your feet than live on your knees

Yes the military has superior firepower so why worry about us peasants with our toys? The majority military servicemen would not turn on their own citizens in that way.

We have sand people in the desert shooting down drones and militias defeated us in Vietnam so to just down play the power of armed citizens is naive.

An AR-15 Won't Stop The Government? Think Again.

It’s a common claim I see from leftists: “You don’t need an AR-15, you couldn’t stop the government anyways! They have tanks and jets and drones and stuff!” Assuming our all-volunteer military would even follow orders to obliterate their own countrymen (the overwhelming majority would not) let’s point out the stupidity of such an argument.

The first thing you should understand is that heavy military hardware serves only one purpose: decimation. You gun-grabbers seem to think that if push came to shove every gun owner in America is going to be standing in the middle of a cornfield in Iowa waiting for a B2 to fly over and wipe them out. Hate to break it to you folks but we live in the same cities and towns that you do. Do you know what happens when you start lobbing bombs and missiles into cities and neighborhoods? Collateral damage. It’s not just the “gun tards” getting killed. It’s your family. Your friends. And you as well.

Such action would lead to an endless wave of insurgency. It is estimated that 53 million of the 126 million households in the USA have at least one firearm. At an average of 2.5 people per household if just 10% of the armed populace decided to fight back you’d be dealing with an insurgent force of over 13 million people. To put that into perspective in April of 2013 it took just TWO men to shut down the city of Boston for 48 hours with a few homemade IED’s and a single 9mm pistol. Thousands upon thousands of police, FBI, ATF, and National Guard had to be deployed to stop them.

1/2

2/2

Now imagine the kind of chaos that 13 million armed citizens (many with military training of their own) would cause. An AR-15 is no match for a tank but a tank needs fuel. Fuel trucks are highly susceptible to pipe bombs. Their drivers are highly susceptible to bullets. And so on. You don’t attack an enemy’s strengths, you attack their weaknesses. We’re not going to face off with a tank or a drone, we’re going to shoot their operators. Get it yet?

And let us not forget – we’re talking about our home soil. Every person killed is one less producer. Every bomb dropped eliminates one more piece of infrastructure. The government would be destroying the very framework that makes its war machine possible. That's not exactly a winning strategy.

Unless you’re willing to completely annihilate a country via WMD’s (and in effect become absolute ruler of a complete wasteland) you will never stop a well-armed, widely dispersed insurgency without boots on the ground moving from door to door, city to city, state to state – where you run the risk of bullets flying back at you at every single encounter. I don’t think I need to explain the logistics of attempting this in a nation that has nearly 20,000 cities, 382 of them metropolitan, spread across 3.7 million square miles.

>steemit.com/politics/@satrebil/an-ar-15-won-t-stop-the-government-think-again

TL;DR - You're a fucking retard.

Australia is now a socialist state being invaded with chinks and poos. We wish we still had guns.

Spam

Says the pussy leftist who just had his worldview completely blown to shit. Thanks for playing.

Now only the criminals have the guns.

also factor in deserters and military leaders that are real patriots

>Lewis and Clark got to California and back alive.

>American education

Yeah, you keep think that bro. I'm not going to waist my time reading through you fucking novel.

>It is estimated that 53 million of the 126 million households in the USA have at least one firearm.
The other factor is that of the category of people that do own guns, they own more guns collectively than the entire population of the U.S., that's men, women and children. Which means that if shit ever truly hit the fan, everyone on the right side of things that wanted a gun would likely be having a gun.
Guns and ammo here would probably be more prevalent than food. Basically like Fallout.

lmao wow you are retarded

Nothing is more black pilling than going for a gun license... it really opened my eyes that the govt wants us to hand all of our security over to them

Attached: gun-control-is-racist.jpg (368x600, 44K)

Yes, yes you do get the rope.

Indeed. It only take one pissed off submarine commander or air force pilot, who's family was killed in one of these "government raids", to flatten Washington DC in retribution. But don't tell OP that. He thinks the real world is Call Of Duty.

>stepdaughter
the memes write themselves

He’s baiting you fucking retard.

The anti gun left is full of people who have no clue about firearms or the current laws in place. Most are whites who feel guilty for being white this is why they only attack NRA members or rednecks instead of the group that is committing the most crime.

The only gun control that ever helped make America safe.

Yep, Personal Protection cannot be used as a reason. So pretty much only ruralfags who can claim they need a gun to control wild animals are the only people who can buy a gun legally. Or more accurately a bolt action rifle. semi and full automatics are completely banned

>You talk tough now, but one day when an armed confiscation squad from your local police rolls up to your house at 3am and demands that you hand your guns over you won't be talking so tough any more.

I don't know about your local police, but the sheriff where I live would come over to my house and shoot at the Feds alongside me, a lot sooner than he'd ever help them out.

The 2nd was written to allow people to legally own guns without any restrictions on reasons or why.

You know, it's ok to admit that the founding fathers got it wrong.

kys

Attached: 1114711.jpg (640x506, 24K)

It's necessary to have loose gun laws for the principle
I'm guessing the founding fathers had in mind that it would make sure that there isn't a concentration of power in the government (like all those countries that you listed)

>It is estimated that 53 million of the 126 million households in the USA have at least one firearm.

There's probably another 30 million households that also have a firearm, but won't admit it to a nosey stranger. I don't think I know anyone who doesn't at least have Grandpa's double barrel shotgun in a closet.

This is not a parchment . Times have changes. Shouldn't our speech laws?