Why are you against free migration, Jow Forums? According to economists, open borders would double the world's real GDP

Open borders is pure idealism with no real comprehension of the instability and reeks of masoracism - the act of deriving enjoyment from the destruction of your own race, culture, and ancestral ties

Quality of life is directly related to GDP.

More like opposition to open borders is pure ignorance of economics and reeks of racism and xenophobia.

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Sanctuary cities function as open borders. Name one sanctuary city that hasn't almost completely displaced it's indigenous citizens for a gaggle of illegals? My hometown is now down to 10% white. We should just deal with that so 1%ers can keep improving their bottom line?

>Quality of life is directly related to GDP.
quality of life =/= self reported happiness

How much do you get payed to spam this image and question?

You have done it at least 50 times so far, ineffective, sad.

>Why are you against free migration
Because it isn't free. Someone has to foot the bill for these shitskins and its usually wypipo.

Xenophobia is not a negative in itself. You're either a europhobe that hates european culture and people, or you're also a masoracist that gets off on the destruction of your own culture and people. You can't possibly be so stupid to think that global poverty and injustice can be fixed by bringing in immigrants and refugees with a total disregard for how easily our own societies and infrastructure are overwhelmed by non assimilating masses.
Disgusting europhobic masoracist

Globalization has westernized the world, retard. Almost the entire world has adopted Western forms of government, fashion, film, music, etc. And no, immigrants do in fact assimilate. Look at America, which accepted tens of millions of immigrants over the last two centuries. Tens of millions of Americans are descended from Germans. Hardly anyone of them speak German. Irish-Americans were once associated with crime and poverty and were considered unassimilable but nobody can distinguish them from other white Americans anymore.

>Immigrants do in fact assimilate
No they do not, most especially when brought over in massive groups that exist in their own communities, that told by the masoracist left that assimilation is a dirty word and that their cultures are not only equal to ours, but better.

You also seem to be avoiding the issue of the unsustainability of brining in masses of third worlders - we're not even getting their most poor and vulnerable, those that immigrate are the more well off and educated, those that would otherwise be a force of change in their own communities. But no, fulfilling your desire for masoracism and facebook likes is more important than acknowledging brain drain, or the fact that we couldnt even take in enough refugees and immigrants if we wanted to to be able to actually fix the problems considering their birth rates.
Total retard europhobic masoracist

>No proof
Because you can't record or ask for voter's records (for good reason. But you have no good reason not to close this obvious loophole unless you intent to exploit it.

Would I see any of that money?

OP is a white anti-white cuck fetishist who gets off on ethnic and cultural self harm. Go jerk your tiny white cock to the thought of redheads getting blacked elsewhere.

>Quality of life is directly related to GDP.

Go look at India, you stupid retard

My dick wants some free migration into that pussy.

in short, OP is a masoracist

Actually there is significant proof of voter fraud every election year in California. It has even been covered by a Goldstein for CBS. Dead people keep voting in California elections. And not for the parties they would have voted for if they were alive.

If you're not a dumb high school dropout, probably. Immigrants generally complement native-born labor in production.

If immigrants don't assimilate, then why is the German language hardly spoken nowadays with tens of millions of Americans with Germany ancestry in this country?

You're comparing white immigrant groups that were ethnically and culturally related to modern immigration where masses of completely foreign and sometimes directly opposed cultures are coming in with the intention of NOT assimilating, thanks to the left and its completely masoracist rhetoric that states that assimilation is racist.
You're essentially arguing that white people are nice and try to help where ever they go. Well done. You still havent refuted the problem of NUMBERS and the fact that even large, unsustainable immigration and refugee intake does NOTHING for global poverty and in the worst case may even exacerbate the issue considering BRAIN DRAIN.

total masoracist

I'm glad you asked!
1. Culture conflicts, internal factionalism growing to the point where the native population is openly threatened, and loyalty to foreign powers over that of the host nation. At the very best, this will lead to the transformation of the national government from a political body for the nation to a staging round between racial and cultural factions. At worst it can lead to civil war and/or demographic replacement.
2. Difficulty in assimilating large numbers of people, the larger their numbers and the more different their culture is the harder it is to integrate, leading to the problems above.
3. Lowering the value of domestic labor, no immigrants don't "take" jobs (well, except for strike-busters back in 19th century America), but increasing the supply of labor always lowers wages. If specialists are needed, then it should be a temporary measure while native citizens are taught the necessary skills. The only people who benefit from mass migration are a neoliberal elite of globalists who rake in the cash from lowered wages and an increased market to sell their products to.
4. Europe is overpopulated already, and the idea that a nation must sustain constant economic (and by extension, demographic) growth is not only unsustainable, it's insane. Let the population fall, let land prices fall, then people can be better able to afford homes with which to begin families.

Double the worlds GDP is half my current GDP.
So stick your communism up your ass.

When some of my great grand parents came here it was their first priority to fit in and contribute and make sure their kids went to school so they could do better then be a farmer. What little chain migration was involved was every few years a relative coming to the US and sleeping in the barn and started working the next day, no government money involved

> Culture conflicts, internal factionalism growing to the point where the native population is openly threatened, and loyalty to foreign powers over that of the host nation

I live in Los Angeles. This doesn't occur.

>2. Difficulty in assimilating large numbers of people, the larger their numbers and the more different their culture is the harder it is to integrate, leading to the problems above.

The descendants of tens of millions of German immigrants assimilated. Studies are showing that Hispanics are assimilating at a fast rate.

>Lowering the value of domestic labor

This depends on whether immigrants are close substitutes or not for native-born labor. Generally, immigrant labor complement most native-born labor (besides dumb no-skilled high school dropouts) so wages and employment opportunities would in fact increase.

>Europe is overpopulated already

Define "overpopulation". Why shouldn't housing markets determine the population density in each area?

I'm advocating for free markets. You people are the real commies.

>get driveby'd by a bunch of niggers
>hey atleast I got the shekel r-right

>GDP
Is a meme measurement and an ANCAP should know this.

You employ one group of people to shoot migrants in the head.
A second group to bury them.
A third group to dig them up again.
A fourth to burn the bodies.
A fifth to spread the ash into decorative patterns.

Ever step will increase your GDP but is still a pointless waste of resources.

"Niggers" generally murder other "niggers". In any case, conducting drive-by shootings seems more like native-born American behavior than an immigrant phenomenon.

It wouldn't make me richer, just those (((economists))) you were talking about
All in all it wouldn't benefit ME in any way

You lack even a basic understanding of GDP accounting.

Are you a dumb loser with no skills?

Prove it nigger.

> GDP = private consumption + gross investment + government investment + government spending + (exports – imports)

You will note these terms: "government investment + government spending" can be made arbitrarily large for no societal benefit.

*gets stabbed by a machette, stoned and raped*

"Government spending" per se is not a component of GDP. Transfer payments aren't added to the GDP. What the fuck is "government investment"?

It destroys the natural environment.
Here we are on a small island, to destroy even more of our environment to house foreign humans should be a criminal act.

There's more to life than money greed and wealth worship.

>Free migration benefits people
So who does it benefit? The hard working farmer or the rich elite who control the banks?

You Ancraps make me sick, do you not realize that Thomas Jefferson, the libertarian you guys praise believe that America should be mostly agricultural?

You and your corporations oppress the working farmer and their land.

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I live in an immigrant neighborhood. Mandarin is the most spoken language here, follow by Spanish. I've never been physically harmed or threatened by an immigrant. The only people who have ever threatened violence against me are white native-born police officers and white native-born politicians and IRS agents who extort a huge proportion of my income year.

Fuck you, Dunbar. No one wants more shit skins.

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Republican capitalism only works if society is mostly agricultural, industrialize and centralize society are utter shit.

Then you havent met the wrong kind of immigrants.

OP probably live in a rich area where it safe while farmers get their land taken.

Btw why this thread again?

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Only if it was open borders between shitskin countries and they were all kicked out of Europe and Canada/USA forever. We've all seen what shitskins can do to a white city in just a couple generations. Detroit literally was the richest city per capita until niggers started migrating from the south.

I wouldn't describe my area as rich but it is indeed safe. As I said, immigrants are not dangerous. The real threat to me are native-born white people who want to use government violence against me.

1) That's bullshit. Don't you know who those (((economists))) are.

The world would be a shithole if every nation was full of muds.

2) There are more important things than the economy.

> What the fuck is "government investment"?
Go read a book.

While you are at it you might also ponder if all "private consumption" is equal. For instance, if I spend a billion on hookers and blow is it really equivalent to building a factory for the same price.

I don't think "economists" take the real world into consideration

1. Delusion. Almost always minority groups will congregate into their own communities whether forced or by their own volition. Factionalism doesn't mean murder on the streets, only hardline members will really show hostility to others in public. But it will affect their voting patterns, their political beliefs, and the policies that they support. Loyality: in the words of Teddy Roosevelt, there can be no hyphenated Americanism. Again, if you think that a large portion of the hispanic population has no loyalty to their country of origin, then you are delusional. Remember Mexicans waving Mexican flags outside a Trump rally? Remember signs saying "Make America Mexican Again?" Hell, look what they do with their money: oftentimes they send it back to their families back in their home countries.
2. Only proving my point, Germans are virtually indistinguishable from a WASP after two generations of integration. This is because both Anglos and Germans were European and Protestant, the major barrier between them was only language. And even then they were FORCED to assimilate due to pressure during WWI. I would like to see these "studies", considering the number of families that speak Spanish at home I doubt them. There are white hispanics (aka castizos and Spaniards from Latin countries) who integrate, but this is due to several factors: their smaller numbers and closer racial similarit, and being mostly middle class and thus being around whites more often. But these aren't the people crossing the border in the 10,000;s: those are mestizos. Uneducated, 50-80% native american, and they do not integrate well.
3. Blatantly wrong, especially in the case of the USA since we have a large population of uneducated blacks who could easily fill the jobs occupied by Spics.
4. Squeezing 80 million people into an area the size of Alabama and Georgia combined. Why should a nation make their own citizens suffer exorbitant rent and overcrowding?

Explain how letting in a bunch of third world savages improves anything

You see that beautiful creature in your picture. She will go extinct if we have open borders.

It looks like you lucked out on the neighborhood. I'll grant you that Asian immigrants are leaps and bounds better than many others though.

>Doesn't trust white man in government power
>Trust rich white owners cuz they aren't authority and they are anti-gov't cuz of taxes.

Hmmmmmmmmmm

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Ironically the free market beliefs that you espouse are held in majority only be white people. When dealing with a collective group, arguing based on individual anecdotes is mostly worthless. It is simply fact that on a collective level only whites have a majority that value laissez-faire policies and a free market. Whether you want to admit it or not, we are all part of collectives bigger than ourselves and our well being is tied up in the success or failure of those collectives. Individualism is good, but must be tempered by family, community, and national ties for the good of all individuals in that group. Left to its own devices, the sole pursuit of profits is a powerful force for fueling an economy, but can destroy itself as it fails to take into account ideology, culture, and the races associated with the two aforementioned.

>uses white immigration as an example for all immigration
brainlet to the max

>Studies are showing that Hispanics are assimilating at a fast rate.
So thats why IQ averages are falling

(((economists)))

White people don't hold free market beliefs at all. Look at how white people are applauding Trump and his massive tariffs. Look at how the federal and state governments have grown continuously in America for the last 200 years. There has never been any actual retrenchment in this country. Trump is running up trillion dollar federal budget deficits every year and white people don't protest at all.

It's not luck. Immigrant neighborhoods are generally safe. The most dangerous neighborhoods in Los Angeles are the native-born black neighborhoods in South Los Angeles.

/thread and OP is a faggot

If you actually knew history you would know that both the Irish and the Italians DID bring crime to this country, they brought the damn mafia here in fact. Irish workers also brought wages down for Americans, although I already mentioned the strike-busters that would be brought in whenever factory workers protested for higher wages and better conditions. Even though these two groups did eventually integrate, they did fundamental harm to American society before this occured and these two groups were both fully European and one of them spoke (some form of) English. Moreover, none of those groups posed a threat to the ideology of America. And on top of all that, some members of these groups' descendants are now reverse-integrating. Not anything harmful as of yet, but it is a worrying direction.

>108% turnout rates
>No voter fraud

If you think white people don't value the free market and small government, then by comparison blacks and Hispanics are full blown socialists.. and, well, many are in fact. Or are you the puritanical sort that wouldn't take the better of two options? And you're still dodging the point: your ideology would suicide itself if fully implemented.

>You may live in a islamic theocracy with absolutely no rights and have to worship Allah 5 times a day, but at least you have a higher GDP!

I am not a Jew who thinks selling his soul for money is a good thing. I have a fatherland and a culture and I believe in the right of people of self determination and sovereignty as extensions of their rights to property, association, freedom of speech and many negative rights that protect their freedom.

Tyrannical immigrantophiles get fucked

Racism and xenophobia are cultural values. Respect cultures. or do you not respect cultures? Should China have been allowed to Chinafy Tibet?!

Oh my fucking god, not again. Is it really so difficult to understand that nobody gives a shit about world GDP? I encourage everyone to just stop replying, since anything that could be said has already been said by

>According to economists

Fuck off.

Are you trying to imply that neighborhoods of illegals are safe? Because that is blatantly false. They commit less crimes than blacks, but still more than native whites and asian immigrants. And the problems within the black community represent exactly what I was talking about: the creation of competing factions within our nation. Nothing is absolute on such a large scale of individuals, and there are of course black conservatives, but the vast majority of blacks vote the same and have racial loyalties to eachother that constitute a faction. My point was never that immigrants will not integrate, but that their effects upon society are determined by their cultural and racial similarity to our own nation and that there are negative effects for the native population when large numbers of foreigners immigrate, even if they are well-behaved and integrate within a few generations.

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Yup it goes on all fields

Whites aren't the better of two options. White people are just authoritarian as, if not more authoritarian than, blacks and Hispanics. Tell me why there has never been one instance of retrenchment in the last 200 years in America. Explain to me why America and European countries are among the most taxed and most regulated countries in the world.

Wouldn't a new culture come out of the mixture? like, not only one culture is going away, it'd be a mix, with an economical benefit. So... it doesn't sound like a bad deal.

Illegal immigrants commit crime at a much lower rate than native-born Americans.

>(((economists)))

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Actually. It would not. Look at the shit nations or take a lesson in history.

Illegal immigrants are criminals by default

>Explain to me why America and European countries are among the most taxed and most regulated countries in the world.

Terrible bait

Blatantly false once again, name a modern European state that even comes close to North Korea, or the numerous African dictatorships that have cropped up in the postcolonial period. Russia and Belarus are the most authoritarian and even they don't come close. Moreover I wouldn't want a vast number of Russians coming here either, due to their strong nationalism, crime, drug use, and Putin-worship. Hispanics don't have as authoritarian tendencies as black cultures but their countries are still prone to strongarm leaders. Look at Venezuala today, Brazil and Chile 30 years ago, and now Mexico is also moving in a very socialist direction as well. You are once again absolutely delusional, or perhaps ignorant of history and world politics.
Including blacks, which is misleading and as I have already stated, blacks in the USA are truly a nation of their own, jockeying for power and influence over the government. Illegal immigration in particular brings drug trafficking, human trafficking, murderers, and rapists into the country.

Logical fallacy moron. Germans coming to us were settlers ans workers, and white coming into a white country.
They didnt had to assimilate because they were among their own, european people.
The non whites flooding our lands are very different. They import their habits and customs, form ghettos or infiltrate our institutions to bring more in or to get more gibs and privileges, they import alien cultures such as islam. They drive the wages down by accepting any job at any price, fr the ones who work.
After generations, they still speak their native tongues, and name their progeny with native names. They commit far more crimes, use far more gibs, bring deseases. They are a tool against us, used by the globalists to dilute our nations then break them into a free-for-all capitalist jungle. They destroy our workers rights and saturate our welfare systems.
All these are facts. If the price to avoid all this is a lower gdp, then so be it.
I prefer to be able to go out at night than filling the pockets of parasites already too rich for their own good.

Who cares? The government imposes all sorts of restrictions on people's individual liberty. There is no obligation to obey the law.

doubling the GDP has nothing to do with my standard of living. Sure some jews will get more rich but it will probably just encourage them and I'll be poorer. I'll take less GDP and more ethnic homogeneity.

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>Westernized the world

>Africa is still a shithole with slavery still being a problem
>South America still has rampant drug violence, Mexico can't win a war against drug lords
>The Middle East is still a warzone of problems
>China uses trash to make oil (gutter oil) and generally is a shitty country to live in
We still are superior in terms of work ethic, discipline and values. How any sane man can look at the rest of the world and then look at the West and say "But we're equals" is laughable and retarded.

To continue, even the most authoritarian countries in Europe don't come close to Venezuela, Cuba, and possibly soon Mexico as well. All those are hispanic countries. And neither blacks nor hispanics would have democratic and free governments at all if the concept of such wasn't propagated by the English, French, and American. I believe it can best be summed up as such: not all whites value freedom, but far fewer non-whites give two shits about it.

Actually there is. Its the definition of a law: you have to respect it.

I'm still mad that the fucking Argies got good American steel sunk.

America and many European countries tax half their national incomes. America and Europe are so regulated that it would be literally impossible to read the entire US Code and Federal Register in your lifetime. America has the highest incarceration rate in the world. Europe have passed laws against Holocaust denial and other restrictions on free speech.

french riots are a funny spectacle.

the west has no work ethic, just sitting on their ass in government jobs, demanding longer vacations, and free shit. this is why the rich all left france.

>wahhh why can’t I just do whatever I want wahhh

Pathetic

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It's insane how people actually think this would work in the long run.

>open borders
>a deluge of shitskins come into a western country
>get gibs, vastly improving their life at the expense of natives
>form ghettos as shitskins do from the USA to Sweden
>squander aforementioned gibs
>everybody becomes third world

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I'd like to add that it isn't so black and white, it's a matter of variable similarity between two nations. The more similar, the less painful integration will be and the less harm will come to the nation. French and Germans are far more similar to each other than French and Nigerian, but a hypothetical colony of Frenchmen that had been separated from their homeland for a century and developed a few distinct customs would be even closer than Germans.

BECAUSE COMMUNIST SUBVERSION BY JEWS

Actually, they didnt. And lot of rich burgers spend their vacations here. Its just the same as everywhere: they shill for migrants and muslims, but do not live with them, we have to.

THAT IS THE ARGUMENT FOR DISCRIMINATION
GTFO ANTI RACIST