In Genesis 17, God tells Abraham to circumcise himself and his decedents:
> 9 And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep my covenant therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations. > 10 This is my covenant, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee; Every man child among you shall be circumcised. > 11 And ye shall circumcise the flesh of your foreskin; and it shall be a token of the covenant betwixt me and you.
Circumcision is clearly evil because it violates the child's right to bodily integrity. Modern human rights groups are opposing it and the practice has been banned in some countries.
Doesn't this mean that God commanded someone to do evil?
Christians didn't practice circumcision in Europe. Only Amerimutt Jew slaves do (Including atheists).
Circumcision is not a Christian practice, it's a Jewish one. Kys kike. Sage
Aiden Miller
>Calling the DemiUrge god.
Cameron Flores
But they believe that God commanded it at one time. Doesn't that mean God commanded people to do evil?
Jordan Flores
The god of the Old Testament is the god of the Jews and the Jews alone. He doesn't say, "I'm the only god," He says "I'm better than other gods." He commands the Hebrews to take other's lands and genocide them.
Psalm 147:19-20 "He has revealed his word to Jacob, his laws and decrees to Israel. He has done this for no other nation; they do not know his laws."
The old Cathar Christians believed that the god of the New Testament and the god of the Old Testament were two separate beings. The Cathars believed that the god of the Old Testament was Satan.
Angel Gonzalez
Just because you think something is good doesn't mean that God thinks it's good, and the same goes for evil.
All humans are born evil because of sin and because of that, we can have very distorted views about good and evil sometimes. But God did write the 10 commandments into our hearts so we at least know a little bit about what God thinks is good and evil (like murder, theft etc.).
Connor Barnes
Cutting half of your son's dick off signalled to the other members of the tribe that you're truly one of them. Those who didn't circumsize their children were expelled, leaving only group members who really meant it seriously and who were ready to make sacrifices. >Tldr it's a feature of these religious groups that made them stronger
Hunter Ramirez
God knew the kikes would turn out to be scum so he trolled them into cutting their penises. He knew Christians, the Israel of God, would be his chosen people so he gave us a much better covenant.
Ayden Miller
You don't think that modern human rights groups and ethicists understand good and evil? Their arguments seem very logical and reasonable to me when it comes to circumcision.
Does bible ever provide a logical reason as to why it not evil? Or is your argument simply "God did it, therefore it must be okay"
Angel Robinson
>desert >hot >not much water to bathe >smegma
Yeah, minimizing that problem was kind of important.
Elijah Scott
Does that really justify the act of harming another unconsenting person? What if God had ordered them to kill a stranger in order to prove their loyalty? Would the killing be justified?
Anthony Cook
Where does the bible say this is done for hygiene reasons? If that was the reason, shouldn't God have made it clear so that people woundn't keep doing it for thousands of years?
Alexander Hughes
Different times, different culture
Nathan Gomez
>God knew the kikes would turn out to be scum so he trolled them into cutting their penises. God trolls entire groups of people over thousands of years?
Elijah Ward
>YHWH >jewish prophet (Abraham) >Christian
burgermuttwalmart education at its best.
Julian Murphy
How do time or culture difference make harming another person moral?
Xavier Morris
Because jews are gay and subconsciously manifest this by cutting their dicks and their slaves' dicks.
Bentley Smith
Modern circumcision only started in 400AD, before that it removed a lot less tissue.
You can justify violating the NAP from the ends of such a policy. So circumcision kept them intact as a nation.
Getting sand in your forskin is bad. People didnt understand hygiene so you tell them god will rape you forever unless you do it.
Brandon Ortiz
They put a little plastic ring on the penis. Then put a rubber band over it and the foreskin. The skin dries up and falls off just like the umbilical cord does. No cutting.
Kevin Anderson
>Modern circumcision only started in 400AD, before that it removed a lot less tissue. It is still violating the child's right of bodily integrity.
>You can justify violating the NAP from the ends of such a policy. So circumcision kept them intact as a nation. You can't justify violating the NAP based on the good of the majority. That is clearly a utilitarian argument.
Also, why couldn't God have given them an less harmful tradition, like singing, to keep them together as a people?
Benjamin Garcia
Only very few Christians actually understand God. Pagans were much more aligned with what God originally means. God isn't a trinity and he didn't father a human son. God is the all-encompassing Order that no-one can elude.
Jaxson Peterson
>You can't justify violating the NAP based on the good of the majority. That is clearly a utilitarian argument.
Of course you can, if you aren't autistic. If the survival of all of humanity depended on pricking someone's finger, is it justified? Your ancestors survived based on violating the NAP because if they didn't, some other group would wipe them out.
>Also, why couldn't God have given them an less harmful tradition, like singing, to keep them together as a people?
That's the benefit of middle knowledge with omniscience, God would know what would work
New testament clearly says circumcision of the soul not the flesh Shill faggit
Jeremiah Watson
He knew the Jews were destined to be cunts. And not the good kind of cunts.
Blake Evans
How has anything about God led you to believe the NAP applies to Him?
Thomas Jones
Paul clearly said circumcision was no longer required (not that it's stopped many christfags from doing it anyway).
Hunter Stewart
So why didn't God just order them to clean themselves? They would clearly follow his orders regardless of whether they understood them.
Aaron Roberts
>He doesn't say, "I'm the only god," He does. >Isaiah 45:5: "I am the Lord, and there is none else, there is no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:"
Isaiah Brooks
>Of course you can, if you aren't autistic. If the survival of all of humanity depended on pricking someone's finger, is it justified? Not if that person does not consent. The "end justifies the means" is not ethical in deontological ethics.
Thomas Peterson
See: (You)
Hunter Wright
See
Jayden Edwards
>Quoting English translations like it has any kind of authority over the original text
