It just dawned on me Jow Forums, Brazil is why we won't win

We already know what white people will do when they become a minority in their own country or at the very least get white exclusionary spaces invaded by non-whites.

Remember there are over 90 million of whites in Brazil, even if a significant number of them are mutts there are still millions of white people in Brazil and they did very little to prevent their country from turning to shit.

Even more so, nobody cares, where is the white identitarian movement from Brazil, where are all the white Brazilians clamering for an ethnostate, where are all the Brazilian shitposters on Jow Forums, I know it is besides the point, but we should really be seeing it if there was such a movement in Brazil.

The truth is Multicultural countries are an inevitability Brazil is a perfect display of this.

What makes Brazilian whites different from other whites, why have they not become identitarians in their crisis, but just gone along with it? Europeans used to be a super majority in Brazil, it wasn't expressly a White State, but the major urban centers definitely were.

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Brazil was italians and portuguese. America is Germans, Irish, English, French, etc.

Americans aren't fucking around.

>where are all the white Brazilians clamering for an ethnostate
There is an active separatist movement in the three southern states (Paraná, Santa Catarina and Rio Grande do Sul) but they won’t ever say its about race because they are totally. Not. racist.

guess which side the whites are on

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I always thoughtthere was a critical point where Civil War starts, I thought it would have been 40-50%.

But since White South Africans are at 13% mayb the goalpost of how much whites can take is much lower.

There has to be a point where supporting the welfare of millions of others is just too much for whites, but I think the floor is lower than Jow Forums thinks.

I think that once a country starts boiling like a frog and gets a slow trickle of immigration, it's too late. The only countries to be spared are the ones who preemptively stop immigrations, we whites are too tolerant and we just get used to the state of things over time and the collective conscience just forgets how much better things were when they were whiter

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>Brazilian
>White

I don't understand

I realizes this, but even when we are faced with extinction we will still cover under the guise of not being racist.

So our best bet is to continue balkanizing our states into smaller and smaller chunks into "more white" and "less white" parts, that will inevitably lead to no white parts

The thing is that Brazil was never majority white (except for the South + Sao Paulo).
Massive European immigration indeed payed a major role in these areas but the population was still mixed majority overall (remember that "white" in the census merely means light skin).

Brazil had a government policy to breed with negros so they would be less negro

all it did was turn the whites into nigs

Most Brazilians are pardo but their southern states are still predominantly European.

Plus the nigs, for better or worse, have always been a part of the country. They were already ere when the country became independent. Overall the identity of the country is that of a mixed one. Europe is very different in that aspect.

>it's a "gringos think the southern separatists are anything but a forced meme with less support then the NSDAP would have in Israel" episode

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are your nigs as useless and violent as murican ones?

Nigger Brazil a few decades ago was whiter than the US is right now.

You and the US are LITERALLY in the same boat, except Brazil is 50 years ahead, the same goes for a lot of Europe just with a different brand of shitskin

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The thing is that too many african slaves were transfered to Brazil, far more the the US.
The massive european immigration in the final years of the 19th century was not enough to offset that. It had a major effect in the demographics of the south but overall the country was still very mixed.

Yep, not sure what we can do to prevent us from becoming Brazil 2.0 though.

The vast majority of crime is commited by nonwhites, regardless of region.

no, my friend is irish and has a brazilian wife. they have a more cohesive culture. people get along better. there are the socialist agitators but not the extremes in as such high numbers as in america.

The thing is that "white" in the brazilian census also includes mulattos with lighter skin. The % is much lower than that.

as many have said, brazilians are 'cocoa' colored

Well Eastern Europe is gonna have to deal with islam on their western borders

>that smile
she is a mega qt

That is true because there was too much miscigenation to the point the majority became mixed. Still, whites in general are at the top, while the prisons are pretty much mixed/black.
And Brazil's homicide rate is 27/100k, while US black homicide rate is 10/100k. So our nigs are very violent.

much worse in fact. Brazil is the murder capital of the world more or less.

America isn't Brazil. America has had lynchings and the KKK and Nazi-inspiring eugenics. White men are waking up to the reality of self-preserving genocide. It's going to be ugly.

I agree to an extent, but I don't think id you asked Brazilians a 100 years ago if the non-whites were the same group as them if they'd sign off on that.

I think that's basically historic memory loss, just take a look at the UK, they have more than a thousand years of history and after 3-4 decades of Diversity, you already have the state revising history and trying to sell the meme of Britain always being diverse, yes it's going to be a harder pill to swallow than it was for you, but I am willing to bet my life that Brazilians a few decades ago would have wanted an Apartheid state now what they have now, and yes I do realize White Brazilians will segregate themselves, as whites will in every other state taken over by non-whites, however it seems like with generations of higher birth rates and a small proportion of miscegenation even these bastions will be eroded away.

Take up your arms Brazil and fix this, IF I am wrong and Europe and the US actually start a race war, which I'm afriad won't happen like it didn't in Brazil (at least not until it's too late, I just think it won't happen when whites get irritated, but when the none whites decide it's enough of the whitey, when we are a tiny minority).

But if it DOES happen, you should take up arms and carve out a nice Ethnostate in Southern Brazil.

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my grandma use to say rio was good when it was white and the older i got the more i understood how it came to be
rio de janeiro was the source of the dacay when whites and non whites start living together as "equals" everything goes to shit, brazil never had a segregation like america,wich caused niggers go from property to citizens overnight.
what pisses me off is that not anywhere in the west has there ever been a "lets return to africa" movement from niggers.

The history of the country is far different - hilarious to see people comparing fucking AMERICA to a shithole failure like Brazil. Eat shit faggots, America is top dawg for a reason.

What you're arguing for is the same stupid historical inevitability that I see all the time. This happened here so it mist happen here. It's total bullshit. The U.S. and europe are not south america. Anything could happen. No outcome is inevitable.

Brazil isn't what's gonna happen retard. Brazil is the result of years of historic racemixing. It was never a "white" nation to begin with. The more likely outcome is something similar to South Africa.
If Brazilians are 48% white, then America is 77% white
Neither are though, because governments don't know shit about whiteness.

There aren't that many blacks in the south and south east. A good rule of thumb is that under Rio lives whitey. Here it is a crime to say anything "racist" or anything (((they))) deem nazi like. We had 14,5 years of Marxists in our government and since the formation of our nation we had the biggest number of slaves in the world, which leads to the demographic problem and the corruption in our government today.
America would have ended up the same way as Brasil if they had the same ammount of slaves as us.

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They're worse. Rio de Janeiro is essentially borderline inhabitable nowadays from the sheer amount of violent crimes that happen on a daily basis there.
Niggers will come out of their favelas in mass and go around congested traffic places robbing and/or killing everyone in their path. Even the military had to step in recently, but it wasn't nearly enough to contain the nigger infestation.
The leftist kike dominated media doesn't help much either.

There's no point fighting back anymore as it's a lost battle. What the sane whites are doing instead is getting the fuck out of here before it becomes another south africa.
The good thing is that we assimilate really well with other cultures as we hate our own, so maybe our efforts are better used for helping whites from other places where there is still hope instead, and leave south america to rot in it's own filth and become africa 2.0.

Brasil and Argentina are both very racist nations.

People openly insult niggers for being niggers even if the cultural elites, the mass media and politicans push against that.

It's true that we don't have identitarians movement, but that could be fixed pretty easily pushing for identitarian groups por peoples of european descend or criollos.

Conditions are not given yet.
We need the situation in Europe and the United States to develop more.

it has value in looking at the similarities in histories, not the differences.

Oh look its the Slovenian troll again...

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>What makes Brazilian whites different from other whites, why have they not become identitarians in their crisis, but just gone along with it? Europeans used to be a super majority in Brazil, it wasn't expressly a White State, but the major urban centers definitely were.
1- Portuguese heritage. A very small country that conquered many lands through soft power. They never slaughtered inferior races, they believe that Christianity could prevent Orcs to be Orcs.

2 - Socialism - Cultural Marxism was already the major cultural force in Brazil before it became strong in rich countries. Your life can be easily destroyed here by an accusation of "racism" than if you commit a crime.

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I don't know if you have realized this, but outside Jow Forums it's just a small percentage of people who care about "keeping X race alive"

You are fighting for something that nobody cares. You are better off living caring about your own life instead of a race that you were born purely by chance.

The US will continue to take immigrants, but we're going to find a way to make it white immigration, just you watch. Actually white Brazilians will be very welcome and needed to shut up the left (we're not just taking Europeans, also South Americans..)

Isn't some of that part of the fact that your ancestors are Mediterranean as opposed to Anglo/Nordic/Slavic, no matter, there should still be enough people to start an ethnostate, the problem is when peoppe miscegenate too much there is a legitimate blurring of boundaries and a problem of defining who gets left in and who gets left out.

It makes the process much harder when real whites have family members who might be mixed.

"Ohh, my brother is married to a Quadroon, I'm really not sure if I'm onboard with this ethnostate crap"

Whites will continue to marry to other whiter people, but slowly there will be some miscegenation, a slow mixing.

Marry a mestizo or two, trickle those genes into the general population, do that decade after decade, in 200 years your white population will be a fraction of a percent

Yes, even more valuable is recognizing when your thesis is fundamentally incorrect

you don't understand, brazil is only above water due to foreign aide and investment, but that all goes away when america and europe get flooded

you have to understand that within one month 90% of niggers will die in the world if whites pulled aide

Boy if we white spics started a white identitarian movement this would happen:

1.- White europeans would make fun of us and would not support the movement.
2.-People in our countries would make fun of us becouse we are mixed, even if you are a blue eyed, blond, 1.80m spic there is a big probability that you still are mixed race.
3.- We are mixed, you can´t seriusly tell us to want to separete ourselves from brown people when members of our family and close friends are brown.
4.- We are more classist than anything yeah people here see color and are aware of it, but wearing a suit and a rolex would help you more.

I can see you've taken your 'be a giant faggot' pills. thesis, feces dork. the point is there are lessons to be learned with all data. Either you're drunk or retarded. Brazil has many lessons to teach America about the future.

This is not true at all, you just come from a part of the world lacking in identity and roots.

>you have to understand that within one month 90% of niggers will die in the world if whites pulled aide
This. I honestly don't understand why whites keep doing this to themselves. We have a lot to learn from the asians it seems.

That may be true, but blackpilling isn't how you do that, faggot.

>where are all the Brazilian shitposters on Jow Forums

I see them every day

Also are you sure Brazil was ever white?

i actually believe that even if you are right, the future bodes decently well for you whiteoids because the whiteoids who are least racially aware also tend to be pussies and breed less. note that racially aware doesnt mean being a Jow Forums 1488 shitposter. even if you are just a man whose not absolutely smitten and infatuated with niggers, and who has a healthy degree of instinct, i consider you somewhat racially aware

1. so dont stand up for what you care about?
2.so? have standards if you believe in them.
3. that's up to you.
4. materialism. I see.

That's way worse than the US you realize, the US started out with a way higher white percentage

Brazil was always mixed and just got more mixed

no black pills, pragmatism. im optimistic about the future in the long run.

Whites, yes. In a few years you will know this feeling.

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Spanish are already multi, thats why they dont care.

Italian Brazilians in the south are insufferable. I have family there. Worse than Italo-Americans.

impossible.

>We are mixed, you can´t seriusly tell us to want to separete ourselves from brown people when members of our family and close friends are brown.
Kind of my point.

Once there is enough intermarriage, even if you yourself aren't mixed somebody in your extended family is.

Classism is a way to keep whites white, definitely, but there will still be an inevitable mixing.

Once there is enough intermarrying in the US and EU what you've said will come true here and in the US as well.

Once your extended family is brown, identitarianism is out of the window for most people, even if they are pale as snow.

I don't think Europeans would behave any differently

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Americans have never been inclined to breed with niggers - probably a Protestant ethic is behind that. The only white women who do are universally fat, poor rejects who might as well be black anyway. The future of white America does not depend on the kind of skank who single moms a negroid, but rather on the behavior of contributing citizens. Those ones turn out to be extremely unlikely to race mix. The only real "increase" lately is in the media/political/ivy class, who are irrelevant and falling. A new elite is emerging in the United States - the country used to be culturally dominated by WASPS, then catholics and jews took over, and now something new is happening.

The growth of racial awareness in the USA in just the past three years is fucking unbelievable. There will be enormous consequences going forward.

>Irish
Not white
>Germans
Ahh, you mean albino niggers?
>English
Lol, jews?
>French
lol, arabs?

could you imagine being in the pool on the balcony covered by glass while it is raining? maximum comfy

>trips of truth
Terroni's spawn are the worst white people in America.

Maybe, unlikely.

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>t. kike
You don't even come from a real country, shut your mouth

>Americans have never been inclined to breed iwht niggers
WRONG

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I am European, unlike you

we need bleaching in brazil and argentina desu

the average mutt picture literally looks like the average "mexican-american"

I do stand up, and i´m vocal about the mess that we have here, i keep myself involved with my communiti and friends and criticize the many bad things that the normal mexican calls "normal behavior" but a white indentitarian movement just doesn´t have a future here

>Paying token lipservice to jews
>same as being in service to the jews
KYS, retard

If only you knew the irony of my post. It's why such a nice get.

That's exactly correct.

There is plenty of research into DNA proving it, Moshe.

that makes sense, respect.

such a nice looking girl

Not Moishe.
And Why are you denying your African and Native heritage?

WHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY????????????

Because they were never culturally white in the first place. Soccer, brown asses and carnival is their culture.

For 91 million people? There should be swarms of them, yet I see more Croatians, Serbs, Slovaks, Fins, Norwegians, Estonians even, basically white countries with a white population 1/10th or 1/20th of Brazil's alleged white population.

I legitimately think Jow Forums is a good indicator of how many people in a certain country are racially aware, and it's not like Brazilians, especoally the white ones who tend to be upper or middle class don't have the internet tk access this site.

Again maybe I'm out of left field, BUT

The number of white people in a country/ Number of Jow Forums users

It's not a perfect indicator, but if it's way out of the average there is something wrong, and what's wrong is, is what I've pointed out and even some Brazilians and the Mexican, there is no strong white identity, people form class identity not race identity in a multicultural state, which is more open to erosion.

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Well yeah, identitarian movements are a way to keep your culture, country and family safe, if you don´t live in a predominantly white society, like ours, for us a white identitarian movement is not something that would help us

The only hope is Eastern Europe.

Quit bitching. Whites held no significant attachment to Brazil. It's identity never matured.
Europe and the USA have matured a lot more. They have the fighting chance.

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haven't Europeans in South Africa always been a minority though?

FUCK BRAZOS

few brazilians would learn english compared to europeans

When you see mystery meat people on American TV, those people are from South America and only immigrated in the last 50 years. Those aren’t white Americans with roots going back 100s of years.

>With roots going back 100s of Years
YOU MUST BE TROLLING
What roots? White people don't have ANY roots in America

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I'm sorry, I truly am. I'd happily relocate the well educated racially aware whites from Latin America to Europe, as you've said there is no future for you there.

I also imagine it must feel like shit being grouped in with savages, I still wish you many white children and a successful future for you personally

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Yeah op. Brazil really let themselves go to shit. Why, I remember back when they were inventing flight, electricity, modern manufacturing, space travel, the telephone, the mobile phone, the internet, and pretty much every other technological advancement of significance. I also remember when they had the most powerful military in the history of the world and were the largest global economic power. Oh how the might Brazilian has fallen.

Yep, I definitely see the parallels between the 2 countries.

If scrutinized correctly, the same can be said for every group of people. Most people are mutts on accounts that previous ancestors fucked everything that lived near them eventually. It is natural somewhat.

Slovenians can fall for the "Slavs aren't white" meme and Americans are mixed with natives already. The categories of Race, Ethnicity and Country are similar but regarded as different by liberalism. Any idea of being scoffed at for not being 100% white is a meme projected by leftists to attack right wing beliefs. Sure some would, but there are shills that say Italians aren't white.

White people have been in America’s for more than 500 years.

>It's not a perfect indicator, but if it's way out of the average there is something wrong, and what's wrong is, is what I've pointed out and even some Brazilians and the Mexican, there is no strong white identity, people form class identity not race identity in a multicultural state, which is more open to erosion.

This pretty much sums it up our societies aren´t built in a strict race awarenes, but that just means that ideas create more conflict, becouse we don´t have a race identity to fall back and look for unity, our socities depend more in strong men and cultural backgrounds to work (wich they normaly doesn´t happen)

Yes, but it was an apartheid state.

There was essentially a state within a state.

The proportion of whites on a demographic census doesn't matter if the population is segregated in one shape or another

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perhaps... but YOU haven't.

Some of the whitest people i know come from Brazil
They are alright

>Remember there are over 90 million of whites in Brazil
good fucking joke. thats all self reported. I won't deny there are some pretty white people in Brazil but 90 million KEK

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Why are you so stupid? Why don't you guys just become Russia already?

user....my city has unaccesible towns, they are located at 4000 meters above sea level with lower valleys and you can get there in 12 hours by bus (sometimes you can`t because the rain closes the highways)...you could colonize those places but you are retarded

i remember a brazilian on Jow Forums once lamenting "brazil is the single greatest piece of evidence refuting the existence of a benevolent creator"

And do you know which one he is doing? As I said "Maybe, unlikely". Go be a mutt somewhere else.

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>Why don't you guys just become Russia already
I wish
And you havent disproved me in any way

I implore people to find me that American documentary abt Brazil in the early 20th century of Rio, I tried finding it but I couldn't.

Rio was whiter than any major European capital or any major American city is today.

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As if a 90% non white demographics is not going to greatly affect the living standards of a country.

Tha face of an average american huwite man