When did the idea of (((sexual frustration))) become mainstream?

Jews are obsessed with sex.

>Freud
Well he is a kike.
Didn't he do the whole consumerism thing in the US as well"? like the "torches of freeedom" etc?

Great post user.

>or what media has made us believe is a supposed "alpha"
I agree with this, it's kind of funny how the modern "alpha" is seen as someone who is terrified of actually getting women pregnant and taking responsibility and instead just wants to pursue maximum pleasure. To me a true alpha is someone who uses his masculinity to find a wife as quickly as possible and is settling down and having children in his early 20's, not some fuckboy chasing women until he's 30.

>Also, there are plenty of men who do want family and kids, but because of the state of western countries, fulfilling this basic human need has become harder than ever. Its a huge fucking mess.
Good point, while I don't think sexual frustration is a real thing "I wish I could just settle down with a nice girl and start a family" frustration certainly is.

>Probably started with Freud
Yeah, I'd suspected this. It really pisses me off that his (((research))) shifted the whole of western society towards as path of degeneracy but then "oh whoops all of this is bullshit and is now disputed by everyone, lets just continue on anyway though lmao".

They are the most prone to perversion, hence why they control the porn industry, push all of the sexual bullshit through hollywood, and rape children (Epstein and friends). Probably has something to do with all the inbreeding and the sick genetics of the Ashkenazi

Never heard of the "torches of freedom" thing, but i'm almost certain you're thinking of Edward Bernays, which is Freuds nephew.

I remember watching some documentary on freud and his work with consumerism or something like that in the US that some user posted months ago.

It mentioned someone I think freud using it as a "liberation" thing for women to buy more ciggies. and it worked.

Read culture of critique dumbass, literally explained how (((they))) did it. Kikes, kikes and kikes.

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even at age 40?

A loser that never got married

If you're unmarried then yes.
Give me one reason why it's bad to be a virgin at 40 that isn't something (((they))) have put into your head like "You gotta get your dick wet my bro" or "You don't want to be a virgin loser haha".

There's nothing shameful about reaching 40 having never had sex, any more than there is anything shameful about reaching 40 having never done cocaine.
Debatably you're a massive loser for reaching 40 unmarried, but that's a completely different issue. Abstinence from sex in itself isn't shameful.

Hollywood. Hollywood degenerates control the media and that's where it came from. Srs. It's from woody allen and the like.

It's a handwaving excuse for when African immigrants go on a raping rampage. Like the "knockout game" it seeks to normalize African ultra violent behaviour when they discover nobody is going to beat them to death if they try it on like they would back home.

It's also clickbait for grills: their media is full of headlines like "I haven't had sex for six months and I feel fine!" It sells the Sex and The City lie to frumpy checkout grills who haven't got laid for sixteen years.

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i beat my dick four times a day

do I count

You must be hideous...

You're one of the good guys.
Also hesrightyouknow.jpeg

>To me a true alpha is someone who uses his masculinity to find a wife as quickly as possible and is settling down and having children in his early 20's, not some fuckboy chasing women until he's 30.
Absolutely agree, good fathers are the real alphas, sadly though, many people (normiefriends irl) have the belief that familymen, especially in their late teens/early 20s are "throwing away their life" when they marry early. When i mentioned to one of my friends that i'll only marry a virgin and want 4 - 5 children, his response was "virgin girls are boring in bed, not into it" and "why would anyone want more than one or two children?". This is the absolute state of normies.

>I don't think sexual frustration is a real thing "I wish I could just settle down with a nice girl and start a family" frustration certainly is.
Agreed. "Sexual frustration" is not real and artificial at best.
I'm honestly glad i have a wholesome white virgin girl that loves me, so i don't have to deal with shit like this or think about it too much.

Looked it up, didn't know that was referring to the whole "Cigarettes = Liberation" thing, i've read about it months ago though. Not surprising who is behind it.

Meant for

>When did this whole bullshit idea of "sexual frustration" and the idea that sexual desire is impossible to control and must be satisfied start becoming mainstream?
It's all about mass media and mass advertising. Hollywood/Disney pretty much determine teen culture, and that's where most of the pressure comes from.

Anyway, good on you for fighting the fight. I lost my virginity a few months ago at 27. It was good because I had feelings for the girl, but the relationship went nowhere. I felt I had to do it to kick my porn habit, but I regret not being able to share that moment with my eventual wife.

Be proud. The reason we have sex is to have kids. You will have a far better sex life when you're married

>When did this whole bullshit idea of "sexual frustration" and the idea that sexual desire is impossible to control and must be satisfied start becoming mainstream?
what? i had no idea this was even a thing. in america it's bad to even want sex with girls, because it's misogynistic.

I think so. As long as you try to be the best man possible, your lack of sexual experience doesn't diminish your value as a productive member of society.

>Looked it up, didn't know that was referring to the whole "Cigarettes = Liberation" thing, i've read about it months ago though. Not surprising who is behind it.
Yea, they called it "torches of freedom" to suck in all the wymyn that believed they're "oppressed"

pretty much with the prevalence of television.
incredible amounts of sexual imagery has been seeping into the minds of the west since tv became popular. it doesnt just mean porn or cheezy b movies laced with nudity. theres a massive overrepresentation of beautiful people on tv.
All the stars are beautiful, hot weathergirls and newsreaders, hot girls in commercials etc.
Many "music" videos are nothing short of clothed porn (aimed primarily at teens).
Were so saturated in it that we hardly even take notice when we see it (which is dangerous)

The greatest secret the media uses to gain viewers is that they know the sexual drive is not something we can consciously control. Its either on or off. The tactic of using even mildly sexual images or suggestions is very effective because it completely bypasses our conscious and gives us a "high" whether we want it or not. (unless one is mentally vigilant)

so i can understand why people might be sexually frustrated when media is constantly trying to tickle our genitals for money

>When i mentioned to one of my friends that i'll only marry a virgin and want 4 - 5 children, his response was "virgin girls are boring in bed, not into it" and "why would anyone want more than one or two children?". This is the absolute state of normies.
Yeah, some normies have the most retarded relationship aims. I have a female friend that is fully content with the idea of becoming a single mother because "I want kids but I have issues with commitment".

>I'm honestly glad i have a wholesome white virgin girl that loves me, so i don't have to deal with shit like this or think about it too much.
Good for you user, I wish you both the best.

>I regret not being able to share that moment with my eventual wife
Don't beat yourself up about it too much user, be proud that you made it to 27 which is more than most people do. Your pair bonding ability is still intact, which your future wife will appreciate much more.

>in america it's bad to even want sex with girls
You can't seriously believe this user

I am pretty colorblind but could tell what this is. Then I realized that with zero dots I'd still have a good hunch

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This is true, but I still don't think it leads to frustration.
People are drawn to beauty, people want to be beautiful and surround themselves with beauty, people are more interested in what beautiful people are doing and what they have to say.
Maybe seeing beautiful people causes some unconscious sexual arousal, but I still don't think it leads to uncontrollable frustration.

When someone is choosing a dog to adopt they're going to be drawn to the ones that are most visually appealing, but that doesn't mean they want to fuck them.
When you're looking at buying a car the aesthetics and colour are a big factor but that doesn't mean you want to stick your dick in the exhaust.
When you go to an art gallery you spend more time looking at the paintings that you find beautiful and visually appealing, but that doesn't mean you want to whip your dick out and start jacking off to them.

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>the Sex and The City lie
Elaborate?

Sex isnt comparable to drugs etc. Because you are addicted to sex by instinct even if u never had sex.

Agreed, aesthetics are important. I recognize this even as a STEM-goy.

>u
This is an English-speaking board Kim.

This is true, I'm not trying to argue that there's no innate desire for sex, I'm saying that abstinence from it doesn't lead to frustration or "repressing" some uncontrollable desires.
We have a much stronger natural desire to eat, and yet no one would try to argue that you're repressing natural feelings and becoming frustrated by avoiding high sugar foods.

>When did the idea of (((sexual frustration))) become mainstream?

As some have said here, it is due to the increase of sexual imagery in the media. Sexual imagery is a lot more stimulating than sex. This causes the misbelief that people need constant sex with different partners for relief. The real reason why the idea of sexual frustration came into existence is because it is used as a means of political control. It is much easier to control people who are enslaved to sexual fantasies. The French revolution in part was successful because of this reason.

>If you're not married then how is this a bad thing?

The general negative stigma towards virgins is that many of them are not pure in the mind anymore from watching too much pornography at a young age. They are obsessed over an act that they have yet to experience. Their viewpoint on the opposite sex is entirely warped and out of touch of reality. This is why they get mocked for being a "virgin.". A virgin in the 19th century was more concerned on character, strength, and the ability to support a family not sex.

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During the homosex push. That's when the argument went from "Why shouldn't they be allowed to have sex with who they want" to "You can't DENY them sex, humans are sexual creatures!" It was their counter argument to "No one NEEDS sex, so no, Jonny the homo doesn't NEED to buttfuck Steve." So they changed over to claiming that people NEED sex like it's air or something, conveniently ignoring that such an argument works as a justification for rape.

Liberal logic eating itself again.

>Sexual imagery is a lot more stimulating than sex
Please expand on this, are you suggesting that people get more of a rush out of being sexually aroused than they do actually having sex?

>The general negative stigma towards virgins is that many of them are not pure in the mind anymore from watching too much pornography at a young age.
I can somewhat see this, but this reasoning is just circular logic. You're suggesting that virgins are stigmatised against because they're obsessed with pornography, when the reason they're obsessed with pornography in the first place is because they live in a hypersexualised society where people not having sex are stigmatised against.

Interesting, I can see this being a large reason too. Are there even any large groups of non-religious homosexuals that abstain from sex for moral reasons anymore? It doesn't seem like it.

>Sexual imagery is a lot more stimulating than sex
Imagine having a wife and stable family. How often do you think you'd have sex on your mind? Maybe once a day or less because you'd be fulfilling your familial needs.

Now imagine our society without any sexual imagery. Do you think we'd be more or less productive? How much do you think young men have sex on their mind when they are reminded of it 24/7 from every electronic screen they view? Of course this creates an obsession with sex to the point where you think about it constantly.

True.

Watch 'The Century of Self' and 'A Goy's Guide to World History'. The former deals more in Eddie Bernays'(Father of Public Relations) marketing; he installed penis envy in the female psyche for tobacco companies.

The latter speaks the Frankfurt School and on Freud for his deviant psychology. You should watch both through and through anons.

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Yeah, that makes sense.
I was considering "stimulating" in the sense of amount of pleasure, but if you look at in in terms of how long it stimulates you for, then undeniably sexual imagery all around us consumes peoples minds far more than the thought of actually having sex with your partner.

11:26 for 1st

4:46 for 2nd

It has never been respectable to be a male virgin.

>When did the idea of (((sexual frustration))) become mainstream?
when women over 30 found that all those incel beta providers that were the main stays of the 70s through the 2000s were no longer there to catch them

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>what is Christianity
For the last 2000+ years it was respectable to be a male virgin if you'd never been married.

Jewish psychobabble spouted by Freud created this notion. Freudian literary analysis is entirely about how people want to fuck but can't. Fell out of the wayside after the sexual revolution for some odd reason.

>people got married younger than 30 meme
DIE
Women generally got married at age 18-22in european cultures, from the Stone Age to the Modern age. It’s rare to see an instance of someone married before 18 inside european civilization. Men generally didn’t get married before 30.
Abstaining from sex makes one a better fighter, this was the belief of all ancient european peoples.

I'm a bit of an oldfag but I can only personally say by the time i hit 35 i'd lost almost all interest in sex, i jerk off now and again but not regularly.. I'm glad I didnt get married, i was never cut out for it anyways, I fucked around a fair bit in my youth and I think I got it out of my system, its just more effort than its worth to me now. I've got mates in their 40's that are still hounds gagging for it I cant imagine how miserable their lives are given nobody's wife is fucking them as often or as well as they want despite anything they'll say on the internet.

Normies are just going away from traditional religions because for a regular retard disproving a 2000yo claim about what the sky is is enough to discredit the deeper meaning. At the same time they are not getting any less spiritual and are willing to accept all kinds of new age bullshit. That's, what happens when media and pop culture in general shits on the Church for the last 60 years. There is no need to convince people that God is real, engaging in Christian spirituality and experiencing the changes to ones life once one goes down that path will lead them to it without coercion.

Yeah, it's very (((strange))) how even after all of Freuds """research""" that started the sexual revolution was proved to be psychobabble nonsense society didn't decide to turn back but kept going down that path anyway.

>Please expand on this, are you suggesting that people get more of a rush out of being sexually aroused than they do actually having sex?

Yes. See pic related.

>the reason they're obsessed with pornography in the first place is because they live in a hypersexualised society where people not having sex are stigmatised against.

Pornography brings pleasure to the consumer which causes him to indulge in porn in the first place. Social stigma might be a contributing factor but that's not the primary reason. Playboy became successful during the 1950s when society had Judeo-Christian values. It was the norm for males of college age to save themselves for marriage. I believe
Hugh Hefner was also one of those individuals which is why he lost it at 22. This all changed with Playboy when men of college age were now seeing sexually stimulating
pictures of women and made up sex stories by Playboy staff. Remember this was when sex before marriage was frowned upon. What is interesting is that Playboy also influenced people politically for the next 40 years as Playboy promoted hedonism, fornication, and anti traditional values which brough us our hypersexualized society we see today. Pornography as a whole brings stimulation which why a lot of virgins consume it in unhealthy amounts. You don't need to have sex to "understand" pornography because biologically speaking, males are
sensitive to visual stimuli than women.

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when rape stopped being a legitimate form of marriage.

Thanks user, I'll read through that screencap in a bit.

>Pornography brings pleasure to the consumer which causes him to indulge in porn in the first place
Obviously pleasure derived from porn is enough to get people coming back, but the point I was more trying to get at is that an oversexualised society makes people turn to porn in the first place, or encourages them to keep indulging in it.
Obviously people would still consume porn in mass amounts even if society was against it, but I'm certain that the whole shift of society from considering pornography as reprehensible to basically encouraging men to watch it makes more people start indulging in it in the first place and makes it even harder for people to quit.
NoFap would be 10x easier if porn was still stigmatised and you weren't constantly exposed to it from people talking about it or posting it online.

If I don't have sex for three weeks I'm punching doors through instead of opening them.
It's like an ingrowing toenail pal, you don't feel the difference until it's gone and you think ahh... if you've got too used to it.
I'm getting polished right now and going to find some reasonably hot chick to wind up until she gets into a taxi with me. Tonight is sex night Wew!

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It has never been normal or natural for a man to abstain from sex.
Tell me when this was..?
Men seek sex.
They may not have been so open about it but 'natural' is ... natural.

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Oh and BTW today is a special date, there will be more sex this weekend than usual.
WOMEN are ovulating at the mo. They are so horny this weekend they will attack you.
IT'S THE HEIGHT OF SUMMER
WOMEN OVULATE AT FULL MOON
(They menstruate at new moon).
So you see son, it's nature calling to me ... it's saying
>blonde twins

>It has never been normal or natural for a man to abstain from sex.
So rape is just someone relieving themselves of an uncontrollable urge?

>There is no need to convince people that God is real, engaging in Christian spirituality and experiencing the changes to ones life once one goes down that path will lead them to it without coercion.

this. you cannot meditate or get enlightened within any framework in the entire world without discovering there was a prepotent entity in that space. is it a god? most likely. i think its at least jesus maybe buddhas. there are definitely beings in that space and you cannot confront that space without confronting them too. when you finally see it you're so mad at it for the current state of affairs you need to wrestle with it, contend with it somehow. its this process that makes up the post-enlightenment dialectic. to say to yourself and god, 'im not perfect i don't have all the answers but i do know what's right and what's wrong just by looking at it, and its time for you to accept my help, and time for me to accept your help. i know what to do but i cant do it alone, and you cant know what to do if youre convinced you're doing it alone. things have gotten beyond our dichotomy of control so its time to get on the same team champ.'

the ordinary person cannot imagine what moral progressions bring a man to pat god on the back and tell him hes not alone. tell him that everything will work out, that we're going to fucking crush it like the old days, together.

Shut the fuck up you spiritual semite.
Pushing for any kind of sexual ideology is a jew tactic.
"Good goy, don't have sex or you'll go to hell"
"Good goy, buy my nice clothes, and you'll get all the trim you want."

You kikes play both sides, but we see what you're doing. If someone markets any kind of fucking, its semitic in nature. What you do with your dick, and your partner concerns only you.

If anything, abstinence can help solve the overpopulation issue. I know why liberals don't really care... They don't care about the planet. They just like to give feels out to people and pretend to be virtuous, so they get something in return.

>I'm certain that the whole shift of society from considering pornography as reprehensible to basically encouraging men to watch it makes more people start indulging in it in the first place and makes it even harder for people to quit. NoFap would be 10x easier if porn was still stigmatised and you weren't constantly exposed to it from people talking about it or posting it online.

Yeah there's a lot of misinformation everywhere, especially in our current sex ed system in schools and it's sad. You're right in terms that the more hypersexualized society is, the more influence it will have on other people. A lot of sexologists spread misinformation, encouraging people to indulge in degenerate sexual fetishes which pretty scary because these naïve people are looking up to "professionals" for help. The same "professionals" who get most of their knowledge from Alfred Kinsey, who is notoriously known for raping kids for experimentation.

You want to fix the population issue, you cut a bloody swath through Africa, and asia.

I agree with the spirit of your post (but I don't think jews are behind everything)

kek
>doing A is what jews want
>doing the opposite of A is what the jews also want
maybe you fags should stop letting the life-jew control you so much and the whites man way out by setting yourself on fire

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Not directly, but their influence causes this.

>false dichotomy
Nice try shekelburg.

>Making the suggestion that abstaining from sex is going to cause some uncontrollable frustration is as retarded as trying to argue that being a pacifist is going to give you an uncontrollable urge to punch people, not smoking is going to give you an uncontrollable urge to buy a pack of cigarettes, and abstaining from alcohol is going to give you an uncontrollable urge to become an alcoholic.
No, it's more like not eating is going to give you the uncontrollable urge to eat. That's how biological imperatives work, you fucking retard. If they didn't, we'd have gone extinct a long time ago.

Well said. Thank you for saying what even I didn't know I wanted to say :D

Also, did I strike a nerve?

Hunger and thirst are completely different.
You get hungry because the levels of nutrients in your body are getting low and you need to consume more to survive.
You get thirsty because the levels of water in your body are getting low and you need to consume more to survive.
There's no level of "last time I got laid" in your body that depletes and needs to be replenished to survive.

What you're suggesting is that people eat because they get frustrated that it's been 5 hours since they last tasted food.

People are like that with food because they're addicted to the salt and chemicals injected into it.
People are like that with masturbation because the porn injected into every facet of our life.
Succumbing to either one is bad for your health.

>pat god on the back and tell him hes not alone. tell him that everything will work out, that we're going to fucking crush it like the old days, together.

>all powerful God needs comfort from something he created to give him reassurance that something he also created will work out

I'm so glad I stopped being a christcuck

>abstaining from sex and having sex is a false dychotomy
nigger

>strawman
When did I say not to have sex?

With Freud

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>abstaining from sex
Are you some kind of faggot? Women want dick, and want it bad. Why not give them what they want?

>Abstaining from sex makes one a better fighter, this was the belief of all ancient european peoples.
source?

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This, the (((frankfurt school))) literaly wrote a book called "The Authoritarian Personality" which attempts to pathologize strong healthy white families.
youtu.be/6jTveISNGEI