he isnt leftist enough for the democratic party because he doesn't want to abolish ICE
>That’s according to the New Republic, once a reliable center-left organ. Writer Sarah Jones has declared that Sanders is “undermining his position as the nation’s most prominent left-wing politician” by suggesting that ICE should be reformed, rather than endorsing the total elimination of border enforcement. ... >While Sanders has inspired many on the left, including newest Democratic Party heroine Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, his refusal to abolish ICE outright, Jones argues, means that perhaps he was never such a thought leader after all. “[D]espite his sudden popularity in 2015, Sanders has never been a figurehead to everyone in the American left. … He does not occupy the left-most band of the spectrum,” Jones writes.
>She goes on to list his apparent heresies, including his reluctance to call for the nationalization of industry:
>"It’s certainly true that Sanders is to the left of most Democrats. But contrary to how he’s often portrayed in the media, he is not a doctrinaire leftist. … Sanders is not a revolutionary. His views aren’t even entirely consistent with democratic socialism, the political tradition he claims. It’s one thing to call for breaking up the big banks, and quite another to call for the nationalization of private industries."
>The fact that Sanders stopped short of joining calls to abolish ICE turns out to be the latest heterodoxy — and, for Jones, it is the last straw. In fact, she says, Sanders is basically a “mainstream politician” who has no real claim to left-wing credentials but for the fact that American political discourse has shifted so far to the right.
>In contrast, those who have passed the Democrats’ new litmus test include Sens. Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) and Elizabeth Warren (D-MA).
>Doesn't want to abolish law and order >PUUUUUUUUURGE HIIIIIIIIIIM
How can anyone still deny that the core dems are heading towards the all-out communist road?
Benjamin Brown
communist countries dont have open borders
Julian Phillips
No, but they're not great at respecting the borders of other countries, either.
Jason Stewart
they're entirely on crash and burn at this point. they only have themselves to blame. these people are just doing what they did at university, if they throw a big enough tantrum people will magically cater to them. they're literally children who cannot be reasoned with.
Angel Morgan
#walkaway is getting pretty popular...
Alexander Parker
Bernie is cool honestly. I always liked him as a human being, but I don't agree with some of his political views.
Oliver Bell
>When Democrats want to go even further left than communists
Leo Robinson
Bernier is a socialist, not an outright communist.
Berniebros know that the crooked DNC cabal leadership has painted targets on them and are unleashing all the identitarian politics hatred on them. They'll either gain masochistic sexual satisfaction from it, or morph into Trump-supporting stormers (their hatred will be stronger thanks to being betrayed and made out to be villains by the real villains.)
Cameron Roberts
They were always headed this way however they have begun to show their true craziness way to early and are turning off middle America. They are also completely leaderless right now and haven't had a message besides impeaaach for over a year and a half. Get ready for some salted popcorn in a few months you don't wanna miss this show.
Jackson Roberts
He made the right decision going independent. Fucking Dems.
Christopher Edwards
Trump should have picked Bernie for his VP. The fourth age of America would have looked very different.
Josiah Sullivan
Bernie was never that left wing. He's just a democratic socialist to an extent. He was never a full open borders commie like people say.
Joseph Bell
>The New Republic >No comment section
What do (((they))) mean by this?
Colton Wright
This stuff is, non-ironically, why I want him to be president next.
Jeremiah Lee
Real question, who is going to follow in Trumps footsteps after hes out of terms?
Berniebros already got split 3 ways: those who sat the election out (like the similarly cheated Ron Paul crowd in '08 and '12), those who voted Trump to spite the DNC (even got some converts out of it), and those who cucked for Hillary (who were mostly just bandwagoning SJW faggots anyway).
Ryder Parker
Wow what a faggot. Was he our socialist all along?
Luke Morgan
Wherever you see lack of comment sections, you're seeing an attempt to prevent criticism of what was written, and communications between those that wish to take note of the problems.
Thomas Ross
>Wanting to nationalize private industry in 2k + 18
Joseph Perry
Bernie.
He's not anti-gun, he knows that the identity pols are nuts and trying to kill him, and he actually talks to people that might not like him.
Jaxson Nguyen
He was never our enemy, just a college idealist with arrested development sadly.
Ryan Edwards
Bernie is going to be fucking dead in 2024
Brayden Gonzalez
Of all the platforms to suicide your party on, abolishing ICE is the most confusing. Literally like 70-80% of the country thinks our border security is insufficient.
Hudson Anderson
He is weak. Thats bad enough.
Jaxon Cooper
It's a facade. He's actually a total asshole. In the debate with Ted Cruz, he basically told a small business owner to fuck off when she gave a valid criticism of one of his policies
Cameron Sullivan
I thought that was a mistake on his part.
His Single-Payer Healthcare policy would've saved small business the burden of having to pay for workers health, and he could've easily explained that.
Cooper Anderson
Then they would have just murdered Trump and had him as POTUS.
Having a religious hard-liner as VP was a good reason NOT to assassinate Trump.
Grayson Evans
Kanye :^)
No, but for real, I think American needs a Paul at the helm.
>Bernie >Not anti-gun Choisis en un.
Zachary Martin
Single-payer in my birth province was so poor that the guy who set it up in the first place called it a colossal failure and the supreme court FORCED the province to allow private clinics because it was so poor that it was A VIOLATION OF HUMAN RIGHTS.
The healthcare watchdog Robert Salois wrote a report on the state of the system, pointing out performance metrics of various hospitals around the province, showing which ones need to shape up and studying the ones that performed well so that others could emulate their success... So, did the government adopt the proposed changes? Fuck no. They completely defunded the position. There is no more healthcare watchdog.
One of the most heavily taxed jurisdictions in North America and the services so bad that you'd spend less time driving to a hospital in Ottawa from Montreal than sitting in an ER in the largest fucking city in the province.
Brandon Nelson
>b-b-but it's not one specific brand of communism so it's really socialism Get fucked you commies.
Kayden Bell
literally hitler now
rough
Jeremiah Sanders
If you think I'm a commie, you're no better than the shitstains who call everyone nazi's.
> His views aren’t even entirely consistent with democratic socialism, the political tradition he claims. It’s one thing to call for breaking up the big banks, and quite another to call for the nationalization of private industries.
We need to start supporting these people and giving them a bigger platform. Their views are so outside the level of acceptable discourse in the United States, that it will destroy the Democratic party. There needs to be more agitation between the left most wing of the Democratic party and the center. The hope is to cause a divide leading up to the 20/20 election. This is the best thing that could ever happen to us.
Bernie couldn't even come close to beating hillary. he is a lot less popular than people make him out to be
Nathan Davis
>Berie >Alive in 2024 Kek
Michael Baker
I don't give a shit. You need to be dropped from a helicopter. Your whataboutism is shit.
Anthony Rivera
Death to all Marxists.
Parker James
We should be encouraging this purity spiral. It destroyed the mainstream left here in the UK.
Xavier Jenkins
>Bernie couldn't even come close to beating hillary except he did in the rigged primaries
Jayden Reed
"We're still fine!" >Shoots self in the feet.
Carter Fisher
Good goyim, now go say sorry to all the poor blacks, you don't know what it means to be poor.
Gavin Brown
>whataboutism Point out my "whataboutism" in this thread. Go on.
Samuel Howard
Don't act like it was that close, you know it wasn't. The rigging had some effect for sure, but everyone with more than 2 braincells knew hillary would win the primary anyway.
Juan Martinez
The DNC and Debbie had to cheat and play games with the media in order to help Hillary.
You know they do this, but you doubt it in this case for some reason.
Justin Green
How far left will they go? Can they go even further to the left?
Easton Ross
The problem the Democrats have is that they're all Betas so they will always struggle finding leadership.
Adam Miller
Because the race wasn't anywhere near close. Hillary never needed to cheat, it was just a good warm up for the real election.
Caleb Fisher
Nationalization of industry needs to be pushed. You know what would be effective? Asking the new Rep. Cortez what industry she would like to see nationalized if she was President. Somewhat like that would make headlines and wake some people the fuck up to what's happening.
Ethan Morales
Huh, he finally figured out he can't win a Presidential run with just California and New York. I guess some Jews can think ahead.
Cooper Taylor
Nah, co-ops.
Ryan Bell
With another 6 years of attempts on his life, Rand is going to be seriously hardcore in 2024.
Yeah, well don't interrupt them as they do it. Fucking cheer them on.
Asher Jenkins
Even the average semi-liberal suburban normie American or Canadian by no means wants "open borders" even if they express sympathy for immigrants and refugees.
What the fuck are democrats doing? Do they want to lose the midterms?
Justin Price
I hate partisan politics so fucking much. You're either left or right there's no room for moderates! Believe in something that doesn't toe the party line? You're not extreme enough!
Juan Young
While I have no allegiance to the Republican Party, and hate 99% of them - when you compare what they "stand for" in contrast to the Democrats, it's an easy choice.....
The 2016 election changed the RNC due to Trump. It used to be the party of bible-thumpers like Santorum and Huckabee, and the religious aspects of their party hurt them amongst Independents and younger people..
But Trump never ran as a Christian, and it doesn't guide his policies. The Religion driving force has been replaced by Populism, and in terms of taxes, immigration, trade, etc - Republicans are the better party.
Lucas Morgan
>Bernier is a socialist, not an outright communist. so, minor disagreements over the schedule?
Tyler Hernandez
>Hillary never needed to cheat Having the superdelegates in your pocket regardless of any votes may not be cheating, but it's still ridiculously underhanded and doesn't disprove his popularity. The reason everyone knew he was going to lose is because of those delegates.
Ethan Powell
when Bernie is the moderate one you know you're in the shit.
Luke Sullivan
Ted Cruz leaked trump is going to give him full endorsement and rally for him once trumps done his 2 terms
Dylan Mitchell
former libertarian here >ICE budget request 2019: $9 billion That's almost a wall >DHS budget request 2019: $45 billion That's a wall and 2 years of upkeep or 2 walls >Abolish ICE and slash the DHS = wall I support this
Juan Brown
He's a goes in the oven with the rest of them
Hunter Thomas
>progressives deem Bernie too right >middle ground mutts consider him a moderate Maybe trump literally is hitler
Asher Powell
So does that make me (a nationalisth ultra Hitler?
Aiden Myers
You and me both
Zachary Robinson
Seems unlike him though.
Evan Lopez
>HEY HEY, all you right wingers... I might be right wing now... you just keep donating, who knows?! I might just do some right wing stuff. Buy my book, it might contain some right win stuff! No refunds.
Christopher Sanders
how interchangeable left and right in the US are it's because there is barely any right. There is left and left light
Hunter Morgan
Progressive liberals and conservative liberals. There is no right wing in western liberal democracy.
same thing. our socialists here want communism socialism is communism light
Adam Hernandez
Future history will teach persons identifying as children that communism was a right wing ideology.
Isaac Baker
>everyone who isn't extremist left and agrees with every single item on this massive list is an alt-right incel nazi It's a bold strategy, I'm sure it'll pay it off.
Caleb Baker
>endorsing the total elimination of border enforcement. are these people legitimately insane
Brody Thompson
Also lol at the idea that not jumping on a bandwagon makes him "not a thought leader."
Kevin Wright
>watching nuance bro >Brings up Bernie's stance against immigration citing that it suppress wages and is a capitalist tool >Protestor says it's white supremacy thinking and that Bernie needs to check his white privilege >Nuance reminds him that Bernie is Jewish and that white supremacists wouldn't consider him white >My sides break the 10th dimension
Good work morons. Great idea to attack the only popular politician in your entire party
Justin Mitchell
Anyone else read the first few lines of OP's post and wondered why the Dems wanted to ban water in its solid form?
Carson Johnson
>tfw you are a literal communist but they cal you right wing
Liam Nelson
>left-most spectrum Wouldnt that be communism?
David Davis
Too Right and too White.
Daniel Lewis
>abolish law enforcement >make guns illegal >give all the guns to cops >socialism literally a police state
Wyatt Adams
The republicans have lots of good candidates, strangely, and lots of people who arent in politics yet could step up. To name a few who could carry the flame after drumpf:
Pence Ben carson Lyin' Ted Gowdy/chaffetz James David Manning (top pick) David Clarke Jr Ivanka
Unironically think the republicans should elect a darkie to start bringing black people into the fold and change their fucked up culture. Black people dont know how to win, drumpf will teach them! The salt would be massive too if a black republican gets elected or becomes VP. The only person on my list who is as high energy as drumpf is james manning, the others might be too boring. I wish tulsi gabbard would defect, she would be perfect. If the dems dont run her in the general in 2020 they are truly truly retarded.
Juan Green
Yes. Obviously
Benjamin Allen
The division is real.
Levi Morgan
The point of most if not all socialist theory is to end up with a form of communism.
Jackson Gomez
no his wife a thief and he's a bad person. Further more his arguments can be summed up like this:
I was X because it`s a human right
Jordan Cruz
>Trump should have picked Bernie for his VP. a jew can't win in the general
Americans won't vote for a jew
Isaiah Fisher
Cruz/Paul will be the ticket
Kayden Nelson
I will stand with rand
Colton Edwards
>hesitant This loony would totally abolish ICE. Never trust a kike
