Give me a non-religious, non-feelings based reason why abortion should be criminalized

>what is sage

Because it devalues human life
Because the only logical and rational point at which to define the beginning of human life is conception
Because biologically the fetus is NOT part of the mothers body, it is it's own entity by any definition
Because "it's just a clump of cells" is not a rational reason to destroy a unique human life because you are also "just a clump of cells", albeit with more of them and more types.
Because once you agree to ending human life out of convenience you start heading down a road nobody wants to go down
Because the "feels based" reasons you want to avoid are universally the ones that are used to justify abortion by appealing to rapes that make up a staggeringly low percentage of abortions to justify the 95% that are done purely as a last resort form of contraception

Logic and rationality sides with pro-life. There is no justifiable reason to approve of abortion for the purpose of contraception

>the beginning of human life is conception
Wrong. Every time you masturbate it's a genocide.

at least i don't live in a rock in the middle of the ocean, covered in brown people and owned by the chinese

You first on why it shouldn't be. Your picture is of a baby with Harlequin Icthyosis. It is a skin disorder, not a brain disability. They are often born with a very thick plastic like film that flips their eyesockets like that. It goes away, and most live relatively normal lives.

Fuck off with your scare tactics and non arguments.

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Because state adopted babies make the best soldiers and killers

Then I've killed millions with my auto-fapper!

does your boyfriend give you maple syrup enemas before he buggers you?

No, because your cum hasn't fertilized an egg yet

Nope. No sperm will develop into a human unless it fertilizes an egg. The moment of conception is when the DNA fuses to create a unique creature with it's own DNA and starts the autonomous process of cell division that will create a new human. There is no reason to define life any earlier than that, nor is there any valid reason to define it later.

abortion is cheap

keeping retards and vegetables alive creates lots and lots of money flow, which is then taxed

it's literally ALL about money

so the jews have killed over 6 million of their own kind. Jews are literally Hitler

Forgot my link
youtu.be/OhOs3DT8eHk

Reminder to leftists that they created the body positivity movement but want to cull people with actual disfigurements whilst celebrating being lardasses. Morons.

to Hague with you

Why is that a valid place to draw the line? A fetus is not an independent life and a fetus without a developed nervous system really is just a clump of cells.

unless you're having as much unprotected sex as possible, you're worse than Hitler

Jow Forums is a bunch of mega-Stalins

did your chinese landlord/master remember to give you a half durry before he took your house

nah I currently squat in a house some chink bought and left vacant. hopefully i can claim squatters rights one day

I dunno what the fuck you mean

Monstuosities, retards and niggers should be killed by law but aborting healthy European babies should be punished by death.

What is your standard for "personhood"? The fetus (AKA the baby) is it's own being, not merely an extension of the mother. If the cunt truly can't bear being a real woman and being a mother, she can always give it up for adoption. (Don't get me started how badly the state fucks over good couples who want to adopt)

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>a fetus without a developed nervous system really is just a clump of cells.
You're just a clump of cells too. What do you think is the objective line where a human has enough cells to warrant personhood? Any line you make after conception is arbitrary. Life is a process and that process starts at conception.

>starts the autonomous process of cell division that will create a new human
A fetus is not autonomous. Under the right conditions it will create a human life but the same goes for a sperm. Are you really going to make us hold funerals for every miscarriage? No one seriously thinks every fetus is a human life. That argument is just a cover for "abortion makes muh jesus sad".

thank you mr chinaman

>inb4 muh precious lifez for related pic

Well, you can actually advance the line and say niggers and jews are just a clump of cells too.

It is homicide without justification. /thread

>What do you think is the objective line where a human has enough cells to warrant personhood?
live birth

>You're just a clump of cells too
I was a live birth

>Any line you make after conception is arbitrary.
bullshit, fertilization is a totally arbitrary line. Every time after a woman has sex, should she be examined for a fertilized egg that didn't implant so that we know if we should hold a funeral?

Things like OP's pic and retards should be aborted tho, why are mutticans shuch retards for God's sake? Is this the reason you don't want retards to be aborted?

There are plenty of ways to have sex without getting a girl pregnant. Current society is encouraging acting without thinking of consequences and taking away personal responsibility.

kids born to single mother or unstable (in any way, financially, emotionally, sociopolitically) families are about a billion times more likely to be pieces of shit.

Let women take them out before they grow up to be pieces of shit and you're forced to interact with them. That non-aborted baby may steal your car one day.

If I can't kill myself then you can't kill your baby.

this

anyone who opposes abortion is a nigger lover

>All abortion is the fraction of a percent that would justify it if that small minority were representative of the whole
>Killing millions of white babies is cool if a few thousand would have developed a disability, goy
>What do you mean "exceptions can be made for any law if necessary"? You wanna deprive wymyn their right to kill?
The absute state of abortards.

>A fetus is not autonomous
Bad argument. It relies on the mother for nutrients but it develops according to it's own biology. An elderly person might require 24/7 care to live, you don't deny them personhood because they require an outside source of help to survive. Also if you could transplant the fetus into an artificial womb and have it survive, what then? The mother is completely irrelevant.

>Are you really going to make us hold funerals for every miscarriage?
Bad argument. The fact that miscarriages happen doesn't justify abortion. If you were standing on a train track about to get run over that does not mean I'm justified to run up and stab you. Whether or not the train would have killed you anyway is irrelevant and I am culpable for my actions whether or not something contingent might have happened in the future. A miscarriage might occur, that doesn't allow you to intervene.

Also if a woman has a miscarriage and goes into depression over it (quite common) do you tell them "Lol, it was just cells, who cares?". No. It's clearly a loss of human life and you personally not feeling bad about miscarriages means nothing, you're making a feels before reals argument there.

There is no justifiable reason to support abortion for contraception. Period. All the arguments for it are based on emotion and not facts.

Because a baby is the last thing that deserves to die in this world

This. All PP funding should be shifted to adoption services. I love the "b-but muh adoption system is shitty" "argument" so much. "Well let's fund it. Planned parenthood is criminally misusing the money they're given, let's throw those funds at a good cause."
"B-but-" every time.

This is true but there are options like putting the kid up for adoption. Who are you to determine whether an unborn will be a burden on society? I agree with you mostly just trying to bring up other ideas.

abortions are only alright if they are not white
outlaw abortion for whites

Abortion shouldn't be criminalized, it just shouldn't be subsidized, participated in or ruled on by the state. The only reason it is so, is because of the influence of foreign subversion of our government and social hegemony. If someone is going to kill their child, they're just going to do it, and the Almighty has a reason. The state should have absolutely nothing to do with anything involving demographic or population engineering. No abortion subsidies. No race based subsidies.

So in your "moral" system, a woman in the delivery room can opt to have her fully ready for life child stabbed before it exits her body and it's all good?
At what point is the baby "born" exactly in your expert opinion? When it crowns? After the chord is cut?

>live birth
So you think it's justifiable to kill a baby one day before birth but not 1 day after. You're retarded and your argument is completely without merit.

>fertilization is a totally arbitrary line
No it isn't, it's the complete opposite of arbitrary. It's the moment at which all unique human beings on Earth began to exist, period. It's objectively the moment when cell division begins the process that continues your entire life to death. It's completely objective

Because roasties want it..thats why Im against it. Pure spite. Fuck roasties

Abortion should be legal because it means that people who want abortions reproduce less. Who cares whether or not it's killing a baby if it's a leftist or a nigger?

>when you nut but she keeps sucking

This is the best answer

>Muh all homicide has to be legal or none is
We have murder laws. We have a thing called "justifiable homicide" here. Countries with outlawed abortion already have panels that decide if a child will be unfit enough to allow an exception.
Fuck outta here.

>tell me why i can't murder babies

kek

Tell me why we shouldn't murder nigger babies

You could go further. Most people flat-out couls not survive if nobody produced their food for them. Most people rely on outside assistance to live.

we should wait till they are born because it's more fun that way

the abortion industry is a massive money machine for the left

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for its pure (((degeneracy))) and counter productive

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God bless you user

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it incentivize bad behavior

>a non-religious, non-feelings based reason
Population growth.
Catholics are against birth control and abortion: population 1.2 billion.
Quakers are opposed to even procreational sex: population: 0.00021 billion.

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>It goes away, and most live relatively normal lives.
Wow, that's a horrifying misrepresentation of the facts.
No wonder Jow Forumstards vote the way they do.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Harlequin-type_ichthyosis#Treatment_and_prognosis

You are worse than a jew
at least they kill babies for ritual purposes

All arguments based on feelings. I'm sorry snowflakes but just because it's mean to abort a baby isn't a good reason to criminalize it.

Killing male babies was the best way you could ensure the survival of your own kingdom.

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Eugenics is way more of a justification than jewish satanic rituals

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Killing for religious beliefs is more logical than for some failed pseudo science

Why does the guy in the middle of the left pic look like he's fucking that baby while the guy drowning babies is looking at him like "bro that's fucked up"?

It would signify enough like minded family values citizens exist again to resuscitate Western civilization.

>Breeding isn't real
ok memeflag

keep shilling for your murder factories. Your cash cow will be gone soon

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Holy shit look at their expressions.
Just noticed baby rape dude is giving drownbro a look like "c'mon m8 you don't know me. Feels good man."

yeah I'd be fine with either of those scenarios

You Wouldn’t Abort a Car

Because people should be responsible for their activity. The lack of personal responsibility in our culture, above all else, is what's bringing it all down. Monsters like seen in your screenshot should be euthanized, though.

The plastic-like film that flips their eyelids and lips like that goes away, low reading comprehension troglodyte.

How could you read that post, look at the pic I posted with it, as well as the documentary from Icthyosis sufferers who affirm the fact they no longer look like the baby in the OP and act like you know what you are talking about? Fool.

The second sentence on the thing you linked even confirms what I said, absolute retard.
>The hard outer layer eventually peels off, leaving the vulnerable inner layers of thedermisexposed.

What exactly is your issue here? That they need extra support after birth? Should we kill babies at risk of premature birth too then? How about babies born with congenital heart defects? You are dumb.

Because Jews absolutely love abortion. Also it makes cunts lesser whores.

I would. I hate cars.

Its murder, its immoral, and it triggers feminazis and sjw fags like you

Lord jesus, son of god, have mercy upon us sinners!

More feelings. Try again.

I would abort jesus if i was mary