Discussion On ICE

I have recently been hearing more and more of how I.C.E. is creating mayhem. I understand that it is an anti-alien immigrant program that send illegals back across the border. I am see shit though that ICE is doing more harm than good.
I believe that legal > illegal immigration, but what are these guys to you?

>Thoughts on ICE?
>Beliefs on ICE?
>Why do you think these things?
>Sources if any

I am fairly behind on the topic of I.C.E. so give me the rundown anons, try to be as un-biased as you can. Or, atleast say why and give sources of why you think such things upon I.C.E.

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Ice is a great way to cool your drinks.
I think that ice is needed.
Because it makes my drinks cooler.
Basic science.

Thanks user! Really opened my eyes upon this topic. I appreciate it!

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ice is a bunch of hardcore drink coolers, and we still get seven hundred thousand hot drinks a year.

If you get rid of ice we will get at least ten times that many hot drinks a year

hidden message.
ICE removes "heat" i.e immigrants.
ICE cools down the US..

I chew too much Ice and it wears my teeth down, so I’m against it.

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It would be kind of wrong to jack other's shit effortlessly, so I believe that if someone working for one of those companies asks people for info, they should atleast state it is for their work. Morally, yes. But we both know almost no modern media is morally correct and is just who can spit out the most shit the fastest to cover up deeper shit.

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There is nothing wrong with what ice is doing. If you break the law you face the consequences, every citizen and non citizen knowz this. No one forced you to cross the borde illegally you did it of your own free will and even endangered your child who is too young to say no. You dont get special treatnent just because youre a non citizen, Just like everyone else you will be detained and you will be seperated

These policies of seperation went into effect in the second bush administration and were voted into law by the same people who try to blame this all on Trump. senate.gov/legislative/LIS/roll_call_lists/roll_call_vote_cfm.cfm?congress=107&session=2&vote=0024
heres the bill right here and who voted yes and no go ahead and ctrl+F and search for all our wonderful democrat senators like
Fienstien and Boxer from california, Clinton and Schumer from New York and last but not least everyone favorite Repulican John McCain all voted yes to the same bill they apose today

is ICE even involved in removing kids from their parents at the border? i thought they just went around arresting illegals who are already in the country?

the law details 3 instances where customs seperates familes at the border
1) we have no proof these people are really a family
its very common for sumglers to bring children into the country claiming to be a family
2) The adult has entered the US illegal and deported once before
re entry is aslo extremely common some go as far as to enter illegally and get deported 3 times before they face federal detention
and finally 3) The family is attempting to enter the US illegally
this one is fairly self explanatory

Sounds good to me.

I only think that the kids get split from their parents if the parents are illegal and the kiddo was born on U.S. Ground so he is therefore a citizen, or if the parents refuse to plead guilty for being illegal, then their child having to go to foster care for the duration of the case. Which, the child can only stay so long I believe in a foster home before they have to be taken away from the parents or some shit, which is usually like 1/3 of the time it takes to settle a case if the parents don't plea guilty.

Even if ICE shot intruders in the kneecaps, the moment they crossed the border illegally, they wouldn't be inflicting more harm than they do good.

Idgaf about your BS government.

children of detained parents stay in federal lock up or """trump camps""" for 30 days in the hopes that the case will be settled by then. When it eventually isnt the kids go to foster care more often than not Indefinitely. Its sad to see families never get re united but if you just took the time to enterlegally you could be spending that time waiting with your family in mexico for citizenship instead of in federal detention hoping youll get to see your child ever again

Immigration &
Customs
Enforcement

They do so much more than bust and deport criminals whom violated United States sovereignty. They keep drugs off our streets, especially deadly fentanyl. If you love the white race, than you should support ICE. Many of our white brothers and sisters, for God knows why, feel the need to escape the beauty of life, and overdose in much higher numbers on fentanyl laced heroin. ICE is saving the white race one deported criminal at a time.

Just keep the families together on the south side of the wall.

So what im getting at is that basically all this
>but muh illegal is good
>but muh ICE is destroying america
is basically just Buzzfeed and other autistic media outlets screeching autistically?

we share BS governments bud

yeah this is what I meant.

I was mainly talking about the Immigration part, but yeah they do help with the irradication of idiotic drug abuse in America. I wouldn't say they're saving the white race, but that's you my dude

you got me there

I mean wtf else needs to be explained, Its Immigration and Customs Enforcement, they are the agency that Enforces those laws. a bunch of pussies are ad that 2,000 kids got separated from their parents for breaking the law, but 3,200 people die in car wrecks in US EVERY DAY, you dont see people wanting to abolish the DMV

I never voted in my life. I will cheer when your government collapses and I become Warlord of the East Coast.

>I will cheer when your government collapses and I become Warlord of the East Coast.

*our government

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If non-citizen lawbreakers get to stay with their kids than we must sue for the same treatment of us citizen lawbreakers.

I DO NOT CONSENT

ICE is a force for good.

They do so much more than deportations. ICE works to stop:

Drug enforcement
Human trafficking
Weapons trafficking

Without ICE, this country would not be safe.

as if consent ever mattered in America.

BETTER DEAD THAN RED. BETRER DEAD THAN READ. BODY BAGS FOR COMMIE FAGS REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>Abolish ice
>fold more useless DHS bullshit
>free up +15 billion bucks
>????
>wall

This is easy math here. Immigration enforcement and administration existed pre2001. So did counter terrorism surveillance. The national guard is there now.
Abolish ice

That's why I intend to become a Warlord.

The leftists are pushing "Abolish ICE".
Now as much as I think we should follow the old rule of "never interrupt the enemy when they are making a mistake" I really wish we could jump on the bandwagon and start pushing out Abolish ICE memes so that we can take credit for the slogan.

Wouldn't it be hilarious if the mainstream media had to report "the same online trolls that brought you #blaxit and 'it's okay to be white' were behind the latest campaign hoax". God it would be funny. And believable.
How fucking stupid can they get? I keep thinking that they can't get any dumber at strategy and then they go hog wild on abolishing ICE. I almost feel sorry for them at this point.

Abolish the FBI

That movement is actually why I asked about ICE,
I wasn't sure if it was leftist misfuckery or something worth while looking into.
Also that would be pretty funny, sucks we are a bit too late to hop onto that train.

sounds like a plan

So you're saying ICE is useless since the National guard can do everything ICE is doing, I.e. drug enforcement/prevention, gun enforcement, and human trafficking? Sounds kind of iffy to me. However the National Guard being on our borders, that's fine with me

So eliminate the entire DHS. That's 50bil right there. That's 2 walls! And just keep the state military budget. 200k+ less federal employees too

We also have about 15million agencies already involved with all that shit also

Whilst that does sound like a decent plan if we do have agencies covering it all, you said there'd be a loss of 200k+ federal jobs. Wouldn't that affect the situation we have on people without work? (Albeit, yes some of them are just lazy cunts living off welfare)

Yes if you eliminate Federal jobs than perhaps the liberals will be ready to deport illlegalsm

isnt the issue though the companies wanting to pay less for illegals than the actual workers and perhaps libtards? I am sure many leftists who are against deportation would have their eyes opened by their jobs being taken by illegals, but that would also make our economy much more wacky than it is

Like I said, just eliminate the Federal jobs altogether and now the private sector can get all the cheap labor it wants. If the liberals don't want to compete against illegals for private sector jobs than they will deport them and their value as workers will increase.

yeah that would work, but that would put many more without jobs and could become an issue since illegals will always be an issue. It can be slowed down, but it's really hard to completely stop illegal immigration

Build a wall

Just give a federal mandate to militias, problem solved

Legal immigration is also bad.

If their legal status is the problem then so be it. Bring them in any numbers and then just give amnesty like Reagan did in California.

You need stringency and determination in dealing with immigration. Stop the invasion.

REX84 SEND THE MILITARY TO EVERY FUCKING SANCTUARY CITY.......

MEXICO HAS A MAXIMUM WAGE. THEY COME HERE AND SEND THE WEALTH TO MEXICO. THIS IS WAR

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