Changing Times

I was reading portions of Industrial Society and its Future by Ted Kaczynski aka the Unabomber and the following passage stood out to me:

"The conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth. Apparently
it never occurs to them that you can’t make rapid, drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society without causing rapid changes in all other aspects of the society as well, and that such rapid changes inevitably break down traditional values."

What does Jow Forums think of this relative to the rise of homosexuality, feminism and other SJW phenomena?

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He's mostly right. The Protestant Reformation was over money and land too.

Also the fact that he said how pathetic the conservatives have conserved Literally NOTHING during the past 50 years

He was a genius Yet still too stupid to name the Jew

Cant believe i hadn't read it sooner it's completely accurate
And i'd imagine he was talking about neoconservatives who openly support mentally ill trannies and not paleoconservatives

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3rd gen feminists, and SJW's are hyper sensitive,and whiny beyond all reproach. I find both sides of the floor to be both insufferable, and ineffective in every way.

>"The conservatives are fools: They whine about the decay of traditional values, yet they enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth. Apparently
>it never occurs to them that you can’t make rapid, drastic changes in the technology and the economy of a society without causing rapid changes in all other aspects of the society as well, and that such rapid changes inevitably break down traditional values."
He's not wrong

He was 100% redpilled, and it ate him alive and consumed him

Bobby Fischer had the same redpills, and the same thing happened to him

That is the power of the redpill. Because it finally exposes what life on Earth really is, and the situation we are in. And it drives you completely mad. It leaves you paralyzed to act, and too broken to do anything to change the world. Look at Paul Nehlen, a man who got the faintest fragment of the redpill, and it completely destroyed his life

That's why I believe the masses will never be able to accept these truths. What they need is a beautiful lie. Only the few elite who can handle the redpill should take it, and they should be the ones leading the world

Oh he named the Jew?

Asking people whether they're for or against the opinions of the Unabomber is kind of a dick move, but I'll bite. Ted was right, change is change. You can't just pick and choose what advancements you want to occur, because unintended consequences are always a factor.

When our society finally falls, you'll need some ethics to go with your re-stabilizing.

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When shit hits the fan, only the perpetrators of the vast conspiracy and the redpilled will have the ability to hold into their sanity. Normans will be in the streets going insane and likely murdering each other.

That is the only line criticizing conservatives in the piece. It was LARGELY anti-leftist though.

People with too much time to spare since technology has made their lifes easier and they don't have to put too much effort in their tasks, that effort that makes you happy after accomplishing something. Also, notice how medium-class to higher classes are the most affected with these phenomenas you've listed.

The human being tends to make technological advancements because he feels he will help other people but, if technology is not correctly applied, it may cause the opposite, causing dependence on the technological appliance and, therefore, becoming slowly a slave of technological stuff. And that "slave" behaviour is what makes people act like they do nowadays.

Is technology advancement a good thing? Yes, if it's used correctly and if it doesn't take part of your freedom.

And, remember, the fact that you can control yourself and realize the bad consequences of technology dependence is what makes us free.

Self-control is freedom.

>such rapid changes inevitably break down traditional values.

This is not always true though. Some technological advancements can actually reinforce traditional values.

Example:

1)Women work in the house or in the family field before the industrial revolution

2)They start working outside the home during the industrial revolution

3)The improvement of overall wealth due to industrial and economic growth becomes enough to allow a lot of women to stop working entirely and they become housewives

when they are housewives, they have nothing to do all day, and end up screwing other men on the side out of boredom

>That's why I believe the masses will never be able to accept these truths. What they need is a beautiful lie. Only the few elite who can handle the redpill should take it, and they should be the ones leading the world

Agreed. Nicely put, user.

He falls into that weird category of maybe people would have taken him more seriously if he wasn’t a murderer.

He’s just a Jew and thinks my comment is antisemetic so he is trying to downplay my by insulting my intelligence

That's why the third way (National Socialism) is the answer. It can reinvigorate a society and keep it lively even with technological progress

He's just another fool who can't see through the curtain. He mistakes the controlled degradation of our society as a consequence of technological progression, foolishly assuming that there isn't a hand guiding the design.
Yet another one of the psuedo-intellectuals who make such useful idiots to the jewish plots.

checked, yes. women are awful.

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Technology by itself is still very detrimental for the human pysche. Just compare your daily life to the Amish or uncontacted tribes in the Amazon and I guarantee you they're far happier than you are.

>t. someone else who hasn't bothered to read Anti-Tech Revolution: Why And How

You also should read the five principles listed in Industrial Society And Its Future (paragraphs 99-110)

Advanced modern technology dependent on the large scale organisation of the industrial-technological system. Small scale technologies like axes and knives are okay.

Sorry, that's what I mean't. Humans are nothing without tools anyway.

I read his manifesto when it first came out and thought he was spot on way back then. As it turns out, nearly everything he wrote has come true.

That ain't true. Social issues aren't linked to technological progress. They just appear from time to time. Have a look at the decay of the roman empire: They fell into degeneracy even though their technology was far inferior to 18th century's, yet the people of that time were conservative as fuck.

I see your point, another example would be technologically superior East Asia and they're still conservative. However, I don't think Ted was talking more about the Human psyche and how it interacts with society.

The way we live is extremely artificial, and if you look at East Asian countries they also have problems due to industrialization such as high suicide rate, depression, etc. Ted describes most of our problems originating out of over socialization, and oversocialization is a result of advanced technology.

Taking something like hunting for example, hunting is a very natural thing for humans. Humans have always hunted and historically spent most of their time doing it. However, Hunting is now frowned upon and is seen as evil. This is because hunting hurts animals, correct? Well no, poaching and mass deforestation hurts animals and the environment, not hunting. As a result we as humans are told to adapt to society and technology, rather than the opposite.