US Neocons have prepared for war in Venezuela. They see Venezuela as the vulnerable salient of Russian and Chinese influence in the Western hemisphere. This war would begin as a deadly conventional conflict followed by a long guerilla war. I say to hell with that.
The planning has been done openly and so can the counterplan. I have carefully documented the evidence of US war planning from a variety of open sources. I have included a summary of the issues and anti-war tips on top of the evidence itself. I have also translated these summaries into French, Spanish, Portuguese, Russian, and Chinese. If you are fluent in those other languages pleas improve on the translations. I invite all of you to share these warnings.
>The US would likely have to introduce conscription to fight this war. Stopped reading right there. Fucking retard.
Andrew Wilson
I support war against Venezuela. This is a war against Communism not a war by Neocons. Fuck Neocons, Fuck Communism, War to Venezuela.
Sebastian Cooper
War in Venezuela would be good tho. the commies need rope.
Jacob Ortiz
Nah, they just need to be walled off while they eat each other. Pinochet2.0 will arise and clean it up himself.
Leo Cook
NWO is going to fuel unrest and revolutions in South America to create "refugees" for the United States, just like they've done in the Middle East for Europe.
Jose Bennett
Neocons are commies, just saying.
Thomas Ramirez
Venezuela has been training with Russia and China, preparing for a Colombian invasion and annexation.
Basically, proxy war. Colombia becomes South American power. Right wing South American countries dog pile Venezuela.
Evan White
It's a country of over 30 million with 3 million armed civilians, a regular army of 500,000 and a militia between 500,000 to 1 million. A 20 to 1 ratio for counter insurgency says there needs to be over 1 million troops deployed in Venezuela to fight that war. The US military can't abandon every outpost in the world to fight this war. Unless you are the best marketing genius since Bernays I don't think you can get a volunteer force this size.
I really don't think America should get itself involved, the last time America was fighting communist in jungles it didn't go well. Jokes aside it would be so unpopular do to the Permanent-trump haters in the Media and they're thralls Middle-income white liberal thralls
Leo Fisher
maybe, but a junta could be just as bad as the current leadership. We should atleast start a proxy war there
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>shit no one told me they had oil. we need war now We unironically produce more oil domestically than Saudi Arabia does. Don't let anyone try to sell you on energy scarcity for the U.S. It doesn't exist.
Austin Cook
War will kill millones of honorable man while the leftist intelectuals escape and spread their degeneracy into other countries.
Lincoln Ross
If the US goes to war every fighter should know about Venezuela's preparation. The truth is useful to everyone. Personally I think Maduro's incompetence allowed things to get this bad. His buddy Evo Morales is a much more skilled administrator. I prefer right-wing governments in general, but if we are going to put the right in charge let's begin in America.
Nolan Flores
Look my dude, its not that we're Pro-Maduro. Some of us don't want the lives of young American men wasted because of the inability of a foreign people to govern their country well with out it falling to petty despotism.
Camden Reed
>The US are going to invade another communist country full of jungles, whose government will use guerrilla tactics to defend themselves.
James Myers
Kek this retard really thinks the US is going to reinstate the draft after Vietnam. Likely a Venezuelan commie himself who has no knowledge of US military policy or history
Ethan Mitchell
The American mainstream and left-liberals have already started.
>the United States is going to fuel unrest and revolutions in South America to create "refugees" for the United States, just like they've done in the Middle East for Europe.
If we do a good enough job, they wont be able to escape.
Joseph Nelson
>It's not going to happen Good in all honesty, Yeah I know people like OP are junkies addicted to happenings
Carter Allen
>majority of the country hates the government and protests keep on growing because people are starving while the regime steals millions of dollars >g...guys the U.S wants to go to war!
You are a fucking liar. Maduro will fall without U.S intervention and all the commie assholes who have kidnapped a country for 20 years will pay for their crimes.
This*1000. Theyre gonna push goblinas by the millions more into the usa
Cameron Bailey
The best solution is to take over Mexico and Canada, deport the leafs and Mexicans to SA, and build a wall at the Panama Canal. They can settle things on the other side of the wall. And you know the wall just got 50ft higher.
Owen Gray
What OP should worry about is if the US decides to arm Maduro's opposition.
They can pay us back in oil contracts.
Jeremiah Barnes
How do you think Venezuela is going to maintain suppply lines with no food or petrol ? You could make soldiers desert just by offering them food.
Nathan Phillips
So you think that making America into a pariah state is the best solution? Stay away from poltics
Daniel Jenkins
Their military isn’t even getting paid. Desertion is rampant. They’d flip in a week.
Ian Morales
I think we need to kill communists here first. The motherfuckers shot up our capital. Literally. WTF??
Charles Reyes
there hasn't been a real war in the western hemisphere since the mexican-american i'd personally like to see the effects of the burgermutt army in ebin oil disasterland
Grayson Nguyen
The US has been schizoid in this regard. We've funneled millions of dollars into Maduro's political opponents on the left and right, but we didn't support a coup plot because we thought it would fail. The problem with any coup is that the officer corps of Venezuela is deeply ideological and richly rewarded. That's why the late Oscar Perez was a sergeant.
I think they will maintain supply lines through the jungles from Bolivia. Muslims in Guyana would likely support Iranian proxy support as well. If Vietnam teaches anything it's that guerilla forces require minimal supply.
James Wilson
Let’s just pay Brazil to do it. We’ll send Rober Mueller to investigate Dilma.
Daniel Cruz
How would it be an outcast state? It would triple in size, increase vastly in resource wealth, and be more dominant in foreign affairs. It's a shuffle in neighbors is all. The leafs on here won't get the rake...maybe...
Logan Torres
>Kosher kike shill Trump is ZOGging out again Imagine my shock...
Nathan Ward
There would be actual armed uprisings if some President, with a willing Congress (unlikely), tried to pull this shit.
And even if it did happen, many would get health deferments. Trump knows firsthand just how easy that is.
Isaac Martinez
>Ethnic cleansing of a people who are sovereign
by doing what you suggest it would destroy America's hegemony and ending the relative peace that we have been living in.
Austin Murphy
Only 10% of the eligible population was drafted during Vietnam. We currently have over 30 million men in draft age so 3 million semi-voluntary draftees would be a doable goal. I think the greatest risk of armed resistance would be among US Hispanics who may view the war as racist.
>This war would begin as a deadly conventional conflict followed by a long guerilla war. Why don't we just nuke the place and leave it all fucked up and useless for everyone else? No one wins, but we definitely don't lose. As far as refugees go, you can't get refuge from the country that nuked you. Can't get refuge if you're ashes either. It would also be a grim reminder of the rewards of communism. >Getting nuked
Sebastian Ortiz
>falling for bait this hard. I was going to larp how SA will then collapse, and we were going to control the whole Western Hemisphere, but I think my job's done.
Brandon Anderson
The US doesn't need a million troops to take Venezuela you absolutely retarded fuck. Assuming they invade in the first place which they won't no matter how schizophrenic you think the US government is, there is no popular support for it
For the initial invasion you are possibly correct. If the Venezuelans properly utilize anti-armor and air defense they could make it a real fight, but they likely wouldn't. We would probably need more because a rule of thumb for counterinsurgency is 1 fighter for 20 people.
Tyler Rivera
I think if America decides to invade anymore nations we should just annex them. That way we at least get something put of it.
Also, I love in HOI4 you can use an interventionist war in Venezuela to get America nuclear arms by 1941
Carter King
Pretty much this. OP is a fag as usual.
Ryder Ward
That's how it's always been. Lurk moar or tits or milkers now
Blake Allen
>That's how its always been,
nope not from 2004-2010. Hello Newfriend
Josiah Carter
"the rifles would arrive in New York, Mr. Trump, we would arrive and take the White House" Nicolás Maduro Guerra
kek
Nathan Perry
this. they'll just infect other countries, hispanic countries already infested with feminism virus
Brayden Parker
After that you are going to have to deal with endless guerrilla warfare for decades to come, just like in Iraq and Afghanistan. Most of the guys in frontline units are probably White males, with niggers, cunts and spics being POGs. Whites will be shot at, maimed and will came back home with PTSD. All for what? For Trump and his neocon advisors?
Mason Roberts
Imagine Goblinas with blue hair screaming at you in savage about colonialism
Colton Baker
old /b/ was a satirical shitshow. I'd go on more serious sites if I wanted to debate legit policy plans lol. Man tits or gtfo
Their populace is starving to death, I think some simple CIA fuckery with the anti-government groups in Venezuela would be enough. Literally no reason for open conflict.