Original bread I did all the math for you. According to this vid all you need is a slight curve in a straight highly reflective surface (3:00): youtube.com/watch?v=a9qk1l0LjEs&t=3m The wood piece bends the metal slightly to focus it's beam...they manage to focus a heat beam at 30m which is the same height the Trump baby balloon will be flying at. The balloon itself is 1mm thick plastic bursting at the seams with pressure because of the inflation and it's a hot day so the plastic will already be warmed up and weakened...even just heating up a spot on it will cause the inflation to help burst it open and take care of the rest as it comes down. Tinfoil alone could work, bring a roll of tinfoil as part of a picnic basket and construct the schematics in this blueprint before the balloon goes up. Even 2 or 3 britfags should be enough. Other options are parabolic mirrors like tinfoil in the underside of an umbrella, tinfoil in general, or even two flat mirrors held or taped together slightly angled.
If we can take this thing down legally (instead of drones or guns or lasers) with simple tinfoil and mirrors they will never fly another balloon again and no one will be charged with anything because tinfoil and mirrors aren't illegal in bongistan....YET.
Drones - will be signal jammed and traced back to you, security of the fucking POTUS VISITING PARLAIMENT will be huge Pre-emptive sabotage - no fun, we don't want the balloon to not go up or be patched up and flown slightly later, we want it to go up and then be destroyed Cutting ropes - impossible, they'll have security guarding them
redpill me on: >high powered laser pointers (the kind that pilots are afraid of) >slingshot >blowgun (how high will the balloon be?)
the Archimedes thing sounds dope but I saw enough uncertainty in last thread to make me think it isn't a surefire thing, and we need this to be a surefire thing
Nathan Howard
That flamethrower drone they used on the HWNDU flag would be perfect.
Daniel Harris
Why not sabotage it before it gets into the air?
Aiden Jenkins
>>high powered laser pointers (the kind that pilots are afraid of) illegal as fuck, no one will get anywhere near close enough to use it. probably some kind of brit secret police tech on hand to detect and pinpoint lasers too since sniper rifles would use them >slingshot >blowgun not getting anywhere near it with either of these. security will be insane. It's the fucking POTUS and Parlaiment. You aren't walking in carrying a knife and cutting ropes and shit...maybe in America, but especially not in a country that confiscates sticks and butter knives.
Oliver Gomez
what phase of HWNDU was that? I must've missed it
Luis Bell
>Why not sabotage it before it gets into the air? Like the OP says >no fun, we don't want the balloon to not go up or be patched up and flown slightly later, we want it to go up and then be destroyed
Noah Barnes
The mirrors won't work. If you were right under the balloon, and had perfect weather conditions, and fifty mirrors, maybe, MAYBE you could heat it up enough to melt a patch of the poly skin - but that's absolute ideal conditions. Doing this from hundreds of yards away, with a handful of mirrors, on a cloudy London day? It's not going to fucking happen.
Drones will be jammed, lasers will be spotted, and chemical solutions like acetone won't melt poly. Pre-emptive sabotage or cutting the lines are the only feasible options.
Jonathan Martinez
How about swapping the gas cannisters with some other mixture? Any ChemAnons here?
Ryder James
There was one in France that they tried burning on top of some building. There's a video of it somewhere.
Jose Nelson
You have to get to the balloon while it's still in storage and no police on alert
checked, well as much as I like your idea of destroying it midair, I think the preemptive sabotage using discreet pen knives while larping as lefty larpers sounds like a more foolproof plan. unless you can actually do the math for reals including balloon height, approx. location of balloon while in the air, etc.
Nathan Roberts
>hundreds of yards away It's only 30m up, they aren't allowed to go higher. 30m is fucking nothing.
also you guys do realize this entire thing is, just as HWNDU was, an alphabet agent op to test mobilized internet autism? my theory is, this time, it's US vs. UK as retaliation against UK intelligence working against Trump.
Luis Davis
There's gotta be something we can fire using compressed air or weak, easy to make, air-fuel mix propelled sharp object.
Oliver Anderson
Engineer autist here listing your best options. Cost effective solutions with high reliability and low chance of getting busted: 1.Blowdarts with a needle fired from any pipe. (~1-2$ cost)
2. Slingshot with small yet weighty projectile. (10$ for a decent one)
3. Highjacking 3 planes to fly into the baloon and pinning it on Infowars supporters (cost: free - israel funded)
4. Using high wattage laser pointers (blue one - 150-240$) with a stabilizing tripod and some kind of scope to zero in on exact spot for atleast 3-4 seconds.
5. Flying a kite with a nail into it. (???$)
6. Shooting it with any kind of air rifle up to ~300 meters away depending on power. (4.5 or 5.5 mm is ideal)
7. Using high tensile strenght rubber bands + a almost banned huge paperclip bent to cause maximum destruction (.50$)
8. Getting Q user to ring up alaska and rev up haarp / launch tungsten telephone poles from space.
9. Uploading many triggering videos to electrify the atmosphere and then getting a black wet person with a key to zero in / home the lightning (free)
After doing a bit of research, it appears you can still purchase 12 gauge sharkticks / bangsticks without a licence and they can be shipped anywhere on the globe without papers. They are also fairly easy to make if you have access to the tools.
What would be good is a paintball gun or airsoft gun. For the paintball gun all you have to do is dry out the paintballs.
James Campbell
No projectiles, no chemicals, no drones. Illegal and dangerous. Laser probably underpowered for the task but can be a back up. So far, sabotage with a thing like pic, disguised as a "helpful" commie seems the best plan. Solar death ray is not reliable and unpractical.
>But I swear to god if this starts becoming a reality the way HWNDU did All it will take is a good handful of brits who still have their testicle loicenses and some $1 mirrors, a roll of tinfoil as part of a picnic lunch that can be shaped into a tri-fold reflector once on the grounds past security etc
We can't get lasers that will burn unless someone bought one before the ban. You can't even buy the modules to mod.
Connor Lee
There's a reason this kind of shit always involves gigantic mirrors and targets a few centimeters away - inverse square law for radiated power.
Dylan Smith
be aware that polyurethane creates cyanide gas as a combustion product so any user who attacks the balloon or helps plan the attack needs to be prepared for charges of attempted genocide against Muslims with a chemical weapon, manufacturing a chemical weapon of mass destruction and also hate crimes against Muslims
Jayden Edwards
>might kill muslims >even better
Cooper Jones
Autonomous drones can't be jammed.
Blake Ramirez
Anything high powered enough to work is going to get spotted by the cops and bring a world of shit down on whoever's using it. www.youtube.com/watch?v=75aUKIIY1Lg
Camden Cox
so i can gas kikes by burning my old skateboard wheels in a synogogue?
Laser pointers are basically wattage. Many commercial lasers are only on mw, while some of the more powerful ones go up to 4-5 watts. Those are the kind that can ignite paper. Multiple hundreds of watts and you can destroy steel, so I imagine the frame of an aircraft would do pretty badly against that.
Jason Turner
We should look into the autonomous drone
Are there any programmable drones out there?
Gabriel Brown
Because we want it to fall with all those people watching. This is for the lulz.
Ryan Hall
Cool, let us know when you hack Boston Dynamics and get the soft AI for their autonomous drones.
Anthony Young
I'm sure there are some brits that at least have a crossbow
Tyler Rodriguez
Just attach a Pakistani guy to a drone. He'll rape a hole in it.
Can't back out now! >Yeah, but you're not going to be standing directly under it you leafy retard. Clearly you didn't see the diagram in the OP. Could disguise this as an easel for painting scenery...pretend to paint and then remove the canvas it as the balloon arrives to unleash the power >The mirrors won't work - I don't know how many other ways I can tell you this. oh I guess the laws of physics no longer work >Because we want it to fall with all those people watching. This is for the lulz. This. It will be more satisfying to watch their hopes go from "haha drumpf has a 1% chance of winning" to "holy shit how did Jow Forums win again??"
why don't we just raise a Mohammad balloon next to the Drumpf one
Tyler Kelly
Kek
Adrian Edwards
That's a wonderful idea
Oliver Perry
people have been using high power (1W) laser to blind pilots during final approach and helicopter pilots during car chases there is a real danger of getting permanent retinal damage, there is no danger to the airframe no civilian has the means to develop something that strong t.pilot
>Clearly you didn't see the diagram in the OP. I did, and it's not going to work. You're telling us that there's going to be too many people and too many guards to walk up and cut a line with a mutli-tool, but not so many that four dozen autistic faggots with tinfoil mirrors will go completely unnoticed?
>oh I guess the laws of physics no longer work The laws of physics are exactly WHY this won't fucking work you mong. Inverse square power law.
Go out, make your shitty tinfoil mirror, and point it at a sheet of polyethyl or polyu a meter a way on a sunny day and tell me how long it takes to melt. 30 meters away is gonna be 1/900th the incident power.
Adrian Kelly
Burn the ropes!
Jaxon Perez
Stop! in the name of the prophet! (saws)
Nathaniel Russell
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You're a fucking idiot. The amount of power you'd need is too high and concentrating it would be impossible, also there aren't enough people
Nathaniel Baker
Exactly
Kayden Lopez
Κek
Gavin Parker
I didn't do the calculations, but there is another issue, the plastic isn't all that opaque. Infrared can travel through thin plastic, and visible light seems to slightly pass through as well. Not black either. A slight wind will instantly convect away any heat buildup. There is also black body radiation/convection from both sides of the plastic (which wouldn't be an issue for thick wood).
Acetone will melt some types of plastic but it's random. You might as well just puncture it if you're bothering with acetone.
That makes more sense. Not really afraid of some dude building a death day so much as going blind on landing.
Landon Anderson
To everyone saying that a drone would get jammed, do you know how hard it would be to broadcast signals across the entire spectrum of commercial UAV radio throughout an entire city with buildings and everything? The drone would work.
Daniel Gomez
>The laws of physics are exactly WHY this won't fucking work you mong. Inverse square power law. Tell it to these guys, this is 30m distance with just a slight bend in a straight reflective surface (3:00 in this vid): youtube.com/watch?v=a9qk1l0LjEs&t=3m
This is completely do-able. Unfold & aim and the hole is melted before anyone has any idea what's going on and the evidence is tossed.
So it is obvious it cant be Archimedesed. So whats the next best way to pop it?
Nicholas Sullivan
Stupid question: is it possible to "combine" multiple low powered laser ? A. In the same ray B. As a "shotgun" effect, each ray being roughly parallel to the others, and providing the hit surface is not too large, can it melt it by accumulating heat on a small surface ?
It's not even a lot of people - it's literally just this one leaf who made the original thread and is so stuck on this idea he can't stop jacking off to it.
Cut the tethers or sabotage it before they fill it. Either of these are orders of magnitude simpler, easier to pull off, and easier to get away with.
Carson Ramirez
are you fucking kidding that's so many fucking mirrors all perfectly concentrated at a point and even then it doesn't burn instantly and its a much thinner material
It depends how big they are and how sealed the jewhive is, but when the gun turret on the USS Iowa exploded back in the 1980's a lot of the dead seamen were supposedly killed by cyanide gas from the burning powder bags which had recently been changed from canvas to polyurethane as well as other polyurethane foam used in the turret
if the synagogue has a 16-inch gun turret it would probably be easier to blow up the gun turret than to try to poison them all with skateboard wheels
Camden Butler
The best plan, and the only real reliable one, is to simply walk up and slash it when you have the right moment.
We all WANT to shoot it down while it is up in the sky, but I do think that such an event would be impossible. There would be no venue of approach where you wouldn't be surrounded by a bunch of Brits within a foot of you in the crowd below.
Someone, only one or two people at the maximum, need to show up to the damn place, find it a good while before takeoff, and then stalk it until you have the chance.
There is no way in HELL any of the drone ideas would work, and more importantly you WILL be charged heavily upon discovery. We just need two dudes who are charismatic and seemingly inconspicuous enough to get themselves nearby, and take turns progressively damaging it in spaced out zones to make repair impossible.
Why not try the abortion strategy? Kill it before it goes up . Where is the balloon held? Befriend the organizers, be a wolf dressed in sheep’s clothing amongst their ranks.
Evan Garcia
just buy a cheap second hand drone that can't be traced back to you, fill a jar with as much gasoline as it can carry, leave a bit of room for oxygen in the jar, salvage a remote control or just tape a burner phone to the jar and solder the wires from the vibration motor into the jar to create a spark and then just send an SMS, thus detonating it.
it doesn't have to be big, it doesn't need to do much damage because it's a fucking balloon
Caleb Hernandez
Thinking like a true Mexican
Matthew Cooper
not a bad idea at all, unironically. except weight. but maybe take cactus spines and put them in styrofome
Landon King
I completely agree. Drone is the best option by far, as much as I wish the laser would work. Can you get enough speed to puncture the ballon with the drone though?
Cameron Robinson
Yes. Gamma knives operate on that principle, and any long-range energy weapon probably would, too, since there's a tendency for atmosphere to disperse beams of light.
>27 giant ass, highly polished parabolic mirrors >30 m away >all perfectly positioned >took five minutes
So you're gonna set all of these up. Directly under the balloon All perfectly aligned On a perfect sunny day With absolutely no one stopping you
And you don't see why this is fucking retarded?
Josiah Hughes
It's a huge balloon up in the sky with nothing else that looks similar around it. Also, the drone can fly straight towards it. It's like shooting fish in a barrel. We just need an engineer with basic knowledge of computer vision and feedback control systems.
Jeremiah Phillips
Do Bongs have anything like the Freedom of Information Act or anything that makes the records of who filed for this balloon permit publicly available?
We need the names and addresses of whoever is running this shit. If we find out where they live someone could let out all the air in their tires or pour sugar in their gas tank during the middle of the night.
>Cut the tethers or sabotage it before they fill it It'll be guarded from now until it's in the air faggot. You think they're going to pull this thing out of storage and then all go to Starbucks for an hour for a onions break so a bunch of britbongs carrying illegal sharp weapons can run onto Parliament where the fucking POTUS is about to arrive during the security clearance sweeps and stab the fuck out of it? You sucked in too many firework fumes yesterday burger.
>female commander Your opinions are literally worthless
Tyler Wood
hi
Jose Foster
Nah. Frozen paintballs aren't really a thing. If you think this works, go try it..
Neither are dried out paintballs.
I don't care what story your friend told.
Every noob at the field tells the frozen paintball story and assures me it was their brother or friend.
Old paintballs get soft and squishy. They go bad like milk. They will either turn your hopper into a blender or break when the bolt touches them (closed or open bolt, doesn't matter)
The only thing paintball related that I can see working is a fn303 which used a modified r/t valve propelling the (heavier fn303 first strike style projectile) at 400fps, which is about 100 fps more then a normal paintball gun.
We play on airball fields with inflated bunkers. This isn't a very good idea at all. I've never seen a paintball burst an airball bunker and have probably emptied 100k balls into various air bunkers myself.
I think so too, someone has to point at the drone to take it down afaik youtube.com/watch?v=kDRgoFLqQac >tear apart a disposable razor >snip the razors in half >attach to front propellors and keep it as small as possible for stability >speed up from a distance and snackbar into the balloon at full speed
Elijah Kelly
I'm confused, isn't it going to be in the big building in London (don't remember what it's callled) which will be super secure? Plus how would anyone get close enough to it with mirrors and shit
