EPA CHIEF SCOTT PRUITT RESIGNS

there may be some abuses in the EPA, but not the clean water and clean air acts.

Only suicidal corporate stooges are against the clean water act.

so why did Trump appoint him?

>Only suicidal corporate stooges are against the clean water act.

or retarded lolbertarians who really believe the free market will take care of everything and that Republicans are the party of true patriots

medium.com/@CAPAction/a-guide-to-the-sixteen-federal-investigations-faced-by-epa-administrator-scott-pruitt-1e42c3ddbd34

read and weep. Pruitt is a dipshit. good thing he is gone.

Trump is a buisness man, and they hate EPA regulations.

because trump is a neoliberal, just like you

Then why did NAK shoot up 5% after the announcement?

The markets know more than you. That's why.

I agree with you. Why are Republicans so antienviroment? I thought they were CONSERVATIVES

No one will remember this in 2020.

>neoliberal

MUH LIBRULS

not everything is so black and white faggot. Republican party aint exactly free of corporate influence when oil and chemical companies have a stronghold on donations to politicians

they will bring it up during the 2020 campaign

Trump said he wouldnt be like Hillary, yet appointed someone just as corrupt as her to his cabinet

Republicans are owned just like all politicians by lobby groups. That's why so few republicans are strong for defending our borders. Their corporate masters want more cheap labor.

Trumps opposition to open borders is an anomaly within the Republican party. It shows that he's not as owned as the rest of them.

But he is a business man, and I'm sure the EPA regs have pissed him off from time to time. Pruitt was his way to get even.

The biggest polluter of water in the last 30 years by amount of released contaminated water and the amount of water required to dilute that contamination to a legal level is the EPA.
But don't worry no one in the EPA was punished, charged with a violation of the act, or in anyway held to account for their actions.

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They're almost all corrupt bro

I will remember how shitty the leftist media was to him as I vote for Trump, faggot.

The people in that town should be grateful for all the free mustard.

citation or GTFO

Yeah, even better the EPA sent it's lawyers to fight all the claims against it claiming immunity from any damage because it's the EPA and fuck you we enforce the law not you.
"Animas River spill"

"they caused the accident while attempting to drain ponded water near the entrance of the mine on August 5"
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2015_Gold_King_Mine_waste_water_spill

It was a fuck up. no doubt. But claiming that that makes them the "biggest water polluter" is nothing short of absolute bullshit. The EPA was trying to clean up the mess from a mine. They didn't create the mess.

Stop spreading misinformation.

this. EPA was forced through by democrats on behalf of China and India.

Fuck off nigger.

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Are you saying that because they were trying to clean up the mine they are not the biggest polluter?
It doesn't matter if it was an accident or not. They caused the spill and the volume of water and the level of contamination and the type of water (fresh) contaminated means that using the legal standard to measure the accident they are the biggest water polluter.

Intent means fuck all.

They were trying to clean up the mess by removing the barrier that kept it in place.

Bullshit faggit. They were warned this would happen.

icmj.com/magazine/article/retired-geologist-warned-public-of-pending-epa-disaster-3313/

who created the mess? the mining company. It's their mess and they should have cleaned it up, not rely on the EPA to do so.

Intent means everything under the law in the USA. What country are you from?

In total fairness they did mostly clean the mines up.

Was it or was it not the biggest spill? how many times have they fucked up or allowed a fuck up to happen in the US?

They are through indifference, negligence, inaction, or corruption, the biggest polluter.

the List of EPA related fuck-ups is pretty damning.

Nothing can possibly be worse than the retard who poisoned the Colorado river on Obongo's watch.

They fucked up. I already said that.

But they didn't create the massive amount of polluted water that got loose. That was the mining company.

The mining company dodged their corporate responsiblity and thus our tax dollars came into play.

It's a toxic mess. Leaving it there was bad for the environment.

What's not to get?

was it worse than the Love Canal? no
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Love_Canal

Stop drinking the corporate kool aid.

Woof
This thread reeks of shills desperate for attention

Exactly this. People don't remember the shit they were pissed about last week. Does anyone really think they'll give a fuck in 2 years?

I am going to ask you a very simple question, the only valid choices are yes and no. Any other answer, any argument, anything else automatically pegs yes.

"Did the EPA act as the actor, overseeer, or otherwise entity which held responsibility for the events which caused the fuckup, regardless of intent?"

so...Was the EPA in charge of clean up operations?
yes.

Did the incident occur while the EPA was in charge, or an EPA appointed entity was in charge?
Yes.

Seems like they fucked up. This little blurb here does not preclude the statement. I don't expect you to answer right or at all. You have an aversion to responsibility, accountability, and authority.

>who created the mess? the mining company. It's their mess and they should have cleaned it up, not rely on the EPA to do so.
>Intent means everything under the law in the USA. What country are you from?
Lets say that PG&E operating a nuclear reactor closes it down in compliance with all laws and hands over the clean up to the DoE (not actually legal or what happens but follow along). The DoE then smashes open a number of the spend fuel caskets and dumps them into a river.

You are claiming that it is PG&E's fault and not the DoE because it was PG&E that created the waste to start with, even though the DoE smashed them like a retard then dumped it in a river.

Also intent means NOTHING in environmental protection law, only outcome. Personal liability protection comes down to due diligence not intent. So even if you really wanted to do a good thing, if you didn't follow basic due diligence to stop, prevent or control a spill you can be personally liable.

The EPA had to fall back to souvenir immunity to avoid losing in court. Which is saying one law for the government and one law for the plebs.

Reminder the Obama EPA had EPA employees viewing porn while in the EPA offices.

youtube.com/watch?v=WqLGyZ1sEvk
>youtube.com/watch?v=WqLGyZ1sEvk

youtube.com/watch?v=ta__sO9h8k0
>youtube.com/watch?v=ta__sO9h8k0

The discussion wasn't about criminal or civil culpability, faggot. Stop moving the goalposts. Jow Forums is a pro-logic board.

When are we going to get some 1488 nationalists in? I'm tired of all these completely impotent useless officials

Love canal wasn't a spill or accident.

the Gold King was considered one of the worst acid mine drainage sites in Colorado.

Did the EPA create that? no. Did the mining company? yes.

Why are you so afraid to show your flag?

There is no evidence to support that the EPA is the biggest water polluter.

You have failed to prove otherwise. That is basic logic.

Love canal was water pollution. you said water pollution.

>the Gold King was considered one of the worst acid mine drainage sites in Colorado.
>Did the EPA create that? no. Did the mining company? yes.
>Why are you so afraid to show your flag?
The whole area leaked from main mines, but slowly and in low volume. The EPA dumped a number of connected mines full of contaminated water, by accident into a river.
When you take the measured amounts of contamination and the amount dumped, using the calculation in the law to judge how large a spill is the EPA beats every other accident in volume.

Also what does a flag have to do with anything?

the fucking spill occured under Obama, how is this on Trump's cabinet?

Trump already said he’s not running in 2020

Actually it was a private contractor which did the draining and fucked it up. not the epa.

>When you take the measured amounts of contamination and the amount dumped, using the calculation in the law to judge how large a spill is the EPA beats every other accident in volume.

citation or GTFO

His refusal to show his flag likely means he's a foreign agent.

I didn't make the claim so I haven't failed to prove anything. I was just pointing out the logical fallacy in your argument.

You really suck at this.

I presented citations and backed them up.

All you did was make ad hominems.

Talk about logical fallacy.

Do you even know what logic is?

u first

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but wasnt the whole point of Trump to do things differently?

yup. "Drain the swamp" morphed into appointing corrupt swamp master Pruitt.

Trump needs to deliver on something to really help the people he promised to help or he's toast

>Love canal was water pollution. you said water pollution.
I also said 30 years. But the amount of water exposed and contaminated was less in the Love Canal due to it mostly being a number of breaches into the clay containment rather than having the river run into the toxic waste dump and washing it all away into the river system. So while the overall pollution was much greater in the LC, the amount of actual pollution released was lower.
>Actually it was a private contractor which did the draining and fucked it up. not the epa.
The hiring company or government body takes on obligations and responsibility for the actions of the contractor. Otherwise a big company would just hire an army of contractors with the intent of letting them take the blame for spills or waste. Then having all the small contractor companies dissolve or go bankrupt, only to reform with the exact same staff under a new mailbox address business license.

>corrupt

yeah, the media really played a number on you

Good.

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This is all just legalistic kool aid to try and blame the EPA for a mess that was created by a mining company and the EPA tried to clean up.

Haha this is such a poisoned well I don't know which side to believe anymore
Get it, poisoned well? Hehe

>Lets say that PG&E operating a nuclear reactor closes it down in compliance with all laws and hands over the clean up to the DoE (not actually legal or what happens but follow along). The DoE then smashes open a number of the spend fuel caskets and dumps them into a river.

It's not the same at all. 1. PG&E is a public utility not a private mining company.

2. The mining company didn't "hand it over"

3. There is no justifiable reason why tax dollars should be used to clean up messes created by corporations to get profits. They should clean it up themselves. They don't and that's why we have an EPA -- flawed as it is.

You lie down with dogs, you pick up fleas.

I knew Jow Forums had fallen to magapedes but jesus christ

I miss the libertarians

It is blame for the EPA, who by it's agents dumping several mines filled with contaminated water into a river.
The mining company followed the law and did nothing wrong. The EPA fucked up by having contractors go and dig a hole to go check without enough containment to hold the water. If an oil company had a well drilling company drill them a well that they lost control of and didn't have containment for waste material the oil company would be at fault as well as the contractor. You don't get to avoid legal responsibility by using a contractor.

>It's not the same at all. 1. PG&E is a public utility not a private mining company.
"The Pacific Gas and Electric Company is an investor-owned electric utility with publicly traded stock that is headquartered in the Pacific Gas & Electric Building in San Francisco. "
pge.com/

>2. The mining company didn't "hand it over"
The EPA had taken over responsibility.

>3. There is no justifiable reason why tax dollars should be used to clean up messes created by corporations to get profits. They should clean it up themselves. They don't and that's why we have an EPA -- flawed as it is.
Sure, whatever.
But due to negligence the EPA caused the spill.

I get it.

You are preaching that corporate welfare it's not.

Corporations should clean up environmental messes they make in the pursuit of profits. Not taxpayers.

you are a corporate stooge. How's it feel to screw over your countrymen for short term profits?

Also PG&E, being a utility is under guidance from the public utilities commision. The mining company is not.
pge.com/en_US/about-pge/company-information/regulation/regulation.page

you just want more gibs for corpos from working stiffs.

The personification of the unparalleled corruption that is the Trump Administration. Its sad have this unending scourge upon us.

>mfw Trump appoints some else who hates the EPA even more than Pruitt

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"I have accepted the resignation of Scott Pruitt as the Administrator of the Environmental Protection Agency. Within the Agency Scott has done an outstanding job, and I will always be thankful to him for this."

"I'll choose the best people for my administration.
I would use the greatest minds...I know the best negotiators.
I know the ones that are no good that people think are good.
I know people that you’ve never heard of that are better than all of them."

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i'm pretty sure there are prostitutes that can't bend over backwards like you guys do for trump lmao

you have no idea how bad they fucked the AC industry years ago with that CFC bullshit
thank them next time you pay thousands of dollars to have your air conditioner serviced

>another shit repulicunt
nothing of value was lost

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funny you care about water pollution but you dont care about how corporations are literally buying all water aquifers for cents on the dollar to make bottled water
fuck off nigger

there is no debate whatsoever that CFCs destroy the ozone. Do you want to have an uninhabitable planet for your children?

acs.org/content/acs/en/education/whatischemistry/landmarks/cfcs-ozone.html

Nothing to see here goy, no chaos, no chaos! I only hire the BEST people because I have a very good brain and tremendous IQ!

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Based Trump Draining the Swamp!

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Tax cuts for the rich -- MAGA

Did anyone else notice that swamp creature Gary Cohn ditched once he got his treasured tax cut through which immensely benefited his Goldman Sachs cronies?

Literally no one gives a fuck.

I'm not making any argument for or against corporate obligations to clean up.
I'm simply stating that the EPA is the largest polluter of water in the USA, and have zero recourse against them by law.
As for PG&E, why do you think being regulated makes them not a private for profit operator?
The government fucked up and then avoided all legal responsibility for the mess they made.
Private citizens that had nothing to do with the EPA, the mine, or anything else had damages done to them, and the agency at fault refused to pay compensation for their actions even after saying they would.

>funny you care about water pollution but you dont care about how corporations are literally buying all water aquifers for cents on the dollar to make bottled water
>fuck off nigger
The whole bottled water industry uses less water than a few large cotton farms do. Bottled water is less than a full percent of the total water use.
Farmers also buy water for cents on the dollar or literally nothing at all on the dollar to make cash crops.

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the poor poor AC industry.

Fucking retard.

This. Eat shit shills. I can't wait till you pathetic faggots kick off a civil war.

>biggest rollback of regulations in EPA history
>pushed Trump to pull out of Paris accord
Do you really think people on here care?

The non mouth-breathers who realize that shitting up the air and water is unsustainable do.

So: Not that many people on here, no.