Should pornography be protected under freedom of speech?

Should pornography be protected under freedom of speech?

I feel like it should be treated like all other things that harm people on a massive scale, like terrorism.

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No it should be banned. The free speech argument is ridiculous

i dont think its ridiculous, we should always be careful to make sure we arent trampling freedom of speech.

but i do side with it being more a weapon than freespeech

Porn is human trafficking human trafficking is not protected under the 1st amendment.
End it now.

i dont think thats a good argument m8, women sign up willingly for money. thats their loss.

im talking about the effects of it being readily available for young men to watch.

To avoid any and all constitutional challenges allow it to exist but demonitize it.
You ate allowed your expression but not allowed to profit from it.

>banning pornography
lmao good luck with that

if you allow it under freedom of speech, that makes it someone intellectual property, you cannot stop someone from profiting off of their own intellectual property.

t. somewhat law savvy

Can someone explain the gif? What is hidden in the logo and name? I can't see on shitty screen

This.It only promovates degeneracy and lures dumb girls into a unhappy life, and makes incels out of young men

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passing the legislation would be difficult yes, like passing any legislation that is backed by the jewish deepstate.

as for enforcing it, that wouldnt be difficult.

it has a small line of text that is half transparent/blurred that reads "love is gone"

Pornography is not freedom of speech. It is obscene.

Should it be illegal. I'm not sure because I am not a totalitarian.

Should it be shamed and laughed at. Hell yes, people who "fuck" their computer screen and cellphones screens are hilariously digusting and embarrassing.

not to mention the logo is the all seeing eye practically

>as for enforcing it, that wouldnt be difficult.
No, it would be outright impossible.
Even CP is easy to find for fucks sakes.

>I'm not sure because I am not a totalitarian.

me either, but i dont support private citizens having nuclear bombs, guns yes, but WOMDs no.

i consider porn a womd as ridiculous as that may seem.

>Even CP is easy to find
Wtf are you talking about?

>No, it would be outright impossible.
>Even CP is easy to find for fucks sakes.

you just proved my argument though, yes CP can still be found, but only a small fraction of the population looks for it, the rest know its punishable and do not (or they arent sick pedos and dont want it in the first place) key thing here is the punishment.

with the rise of pornography availability sex crimes dropped significantly.
when they clamped down on ''cp'' (anything nowadays) online kiddy diddler crimes rose massively.
When laws were lax on movies containing diddling pedos were not kidnapping kids to the degree they were after the porn industry got new rules in the 70s.
When they clamped down on degenerate porn it lead to the rise in more degenerate sex attackers (torture rape).
If you can't jack one off it builds frustration and will ultimately just lead to what Muslims who are segregated from women do, rape.exe as soon as they get near a woman IRL.

>with the rise of pornography availability sex crimes dropped significantly.

going to need sources with verified independently sourced data from multiple un-biased research groups on that one friend.

not ridiculous at all. if you can destroy the morality of a people, their nation will collapse soon enough. why waste money on nukes when you can just pay some whores 5 dollars to do something degenerate

right, this is my line of thinking for sure.

It initially wasn't protected and was considered obscene material, until the Jew schemed.

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And who the fuck is going to do anything about it? Pornography is as permanent as the Jew. The world as you know it through history books and old films is dead. All we have is the here and now and all you have is yourself. The cancerous rotten Jews have won, this is what our children will inherit, ever more debt and degeneracy. There is no kicking off the revolution either it all ends abruptly through a total catastrophe or it continues to decay until we are all mongrel slaves to the eternal Jew.

yep, know all about Roth V. US

whole thing was a stacked kangaroo court straight out of hell.

>The cancerous rotten Jews have won

thanks shlomo, ill repeat that to myself and try to let it sink in.

>I feel like it should be treated like all other things that harm people on a massive scale, like terrorism.
that's retarded
>it should be banned.
also really, retarded.

Protect me from the evil of tits. They might corrupt my pure christian soul. Think of the children!

did you forget your argument sir?

how about think of the big picture, which you clearly have not.

Yes it’s freedom of speech. Your values don’t match mine. Fuck off.

Look at countries without porn. India for example. Porn was illegal there and impossible to get. They’re so backwards on sex that it’s given rise to a bunch of creepy fucks who rape women and harass western ones online asking for bobs n vagene. Without porn you get rape.

How about Japan? Turbodegeneracy everywhere and they are doing fine when it comes to morality and human decency. Society can have loli manga for sale in grocery stores and moral collapse does not happen as long as social cohesion and homogenity are maintained.

He’s talking about it being easy to find. Are you new here? Its always posted on /b/ and thankfully the mods are quick to remove it. But yeah it isn’t exactly hard to get. And if you ever goto the dark web oh my god. It’s bad. That place is hell.

>Should it be shamed and laughed at. Hell yes, people who "fuck" their computer screen and cellphones screens are hilariously digusting and embarrassing.
do you know where you are?

What are you gonna do? 25 to life in supermax for looking at tits? You can't jail people for something everyone does. That's like trying to arrest people for piracy. Not gonna happen.

>They’re so backwards on sex that it’s given rise to a bunch of creepy fucks who rape women and harass western ones online asking for bobs n vagene.
>Without porn you get rape

so this is your speculation no doubt. noted.

also

>comparing nigger brown skin behavior to everyone else

whites can go without raping you know.

Yes
But often times people realize it has too much of a negative impact on their lives

no, but i think some heavy fines, and gradual increase in time served be consecutive offenses (like most crimes) could be possible.

WHO WILL WATCH MY GF IF PORN IS OUTLAWED?

*too late

also the punishments would be mainly for the producers/distributes. they are the ones causing real harm .

there's nothing to argue. you said it's as harmful as terrorism, the burden of proof is on you. if you're going to make retarded statements like that without evidence I'm going to just call you a retard because that's all you deserve.

also banning it would be literally impossible.

i honestly only believe in punishing the producers/distributers.. not joe jerk off

Porn is way too decentralized for that. It's not like busting a meth lab. Anyone with a camera can produce porn, and they often do.
Not to mention 2D/CG shit. You could literally draw some porn in mspaint right now and post under a proxy and nobody could stop you.

but it is harmful as terrorism, it dulls the minds of the youth and the future of society, increases hatred amongst genders, divorce rates.

yes there are sources for this, actual studies, if you are patient i will get them for you

once it is outlawed, 95% of the people producing/releases it will stop just due to that. the rest will soon follow.

Brother self mutilation is rife if this is not the end times when will it come? The 20th century was the bloodiest in history. This century alone we in the west have killed, injured and displaced millions of people in the middle east alone for Israel. We are drowning in degeneracy and Jew propaganda our borders have become non existent. Tell me again how they haven't won tell me again how there is still hope tell me how we are going to fix the innumerable wrongs when the Jews have 70 years on us at least and have been working against us ever since they stepped on European soil.

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Then begin with banning religion that poisons the minds of people.

agree with everything, the world is shit. but the jews have not won as long as we draw breath.

It's not an argument, and it's not art. Not speech. Ban away!

>but it is harmful as terrorism, it dulls the minds of the youth and the future of society, increases hatred amongst genders, divorce rates.
Yeah, not buying it. Do not come at with the "yourbrainonporn" bullshit either.

it's existed forever. it does not need the internet to exist and you can't even properly define it. Would you call the underwear section of clothing magazine pornographic? Because it can be used in such a way. I'm old enough to remember life before internet was popular and that's exactly what I did when I hit puberty.

I know everything we know from history is dead. But giving up and letting them destroy what's left of us without a fight sounds pathetic.

well i agree, but everything should be given a fair trial. roth v US was a hung trial.

re-trial with actual citizen jury who have been educated in the harms it creates and see what happens i say.

>t. compulsive masturbater

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Anyone who advocates for porn or thinks its alright is brain dead no one can hold these opinions and think themselves intelligent you are an idiot plain and simple you fucking morons will be the death of us.

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>it's existed forever.

quadruple gangbang videos in your pocket has not existed forever, friend. dont be absurd.

>he's never seen the pornographic graffiti on ancient roman buildings

Yeah and their birth rates are plummeting. Fucking fast.

i have actually. im sure those graffiti "artists" were soon flogged once found.

>Underwear section of clothing magazine
>Same as slut taking 2 dicks in her ass and one in her mouth while tied up
>Same as 60 minute video with "plot" and unrealistic standards
Porn getting more realistic has a direct effect of the people. They just keep going deeper and deeper until they are stuck choking themselves in diapers. Why do you think there's so many faggots and trap-lovers nowadays?
I can't wait to see the degeneracy which spawns from excessive VR porn usage.

Porn wouldn't be a problem in a healthy society where men didn't have to rely on it for sexual release, because prostitution is illegal and female hypergamy runs rampant.

one problem at a time is my motto. but yes, theres many facets to how fucked things are.

Israel and Pharisee Zionist Jews use it as a weapon. Does that answer your question?

I'm sure you're a retard. still waiting on your sources for porn being as damaging as terrorism and if you think the sears catalogue women's underwear section is pornographic.

Pornographers and pimps should be murdered.
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Please listen to this or any other of E Micheal Jones' talk on porn. The war against obscenity laws was and is a war waged by Jews to undermine the dominant culture that they might prosper at the whole's decline.

Well with the current state of women, more men are turning to pornography. Maybe if women weren't so shitty most men wouldn't need it

my friend, i do not care what you think of my mental capacities. and I said you would need to be patient as I am literally phoneposting on a train currently on a call.

i will provide them.

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Japan has a highly conformist society. Everyone is expected to behave in a certain way when in public. This makes them somewhat of an exception, as until they break conformity, there will not be degenerate parades or a sexual revolution etc.

Obscenity is not protected here. It just needs enforcement.

>VR porn
I've seen the Webms, they scare me

thats the unfortunate truth

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What do you consider pornographic? As soon as you come up with any standard definition you've opened yourself up to loopholes that can be worked around

see: Japan and their genital censorship in hardcore pornography

that worked out well didn't it, retard?

>but the jews have not won as long as we draw breath

They do not want to kill us all they want to mongrelise us with niggers and enslave us. Huxley was right they will create a stratified world of the least to most mongrelised peoples. Look at what media has been promoting look at how it has made our people hate themselves. The absurdity of sitting in front of a box or some sort of computer screen and receiving propaganda and thinking its perfectly normal and just entertainment. The modern man has utterly and completely lost touch with not only nature but reality itself. We here are just virtual entities it's hard to imagine you in your room or wherever behind your computer screen or phone having this conversation with me. But that is what is happening this site the internet is a medium. There is a brain where all this is coming from and there is a brain that is comprehending it we are alive and self aware yet we waste what little time we have watching mentally ill people mutilate and disgrace their bodies for entertainment. This is what we have come to.

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FUCK NO

>there will not be degenerate parades or a sexual revolution etc.
lmao stop posting

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Agreed, shoot all pornographers. The elites literally use sexuality as a control mechanism
even in the ancient times they used whores to compromise the king during warfare

Thats probably the worst you'll ever see from them, meanwhile we have faggots running around in drag wearing penis costumes and dressing like a Satanic cult

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I'm not sure if porn should be banned because, like you said, loopholes and ineffectiveness.
That being said it should be regulated or some shit, these scummy companies are making millions over the literal degeneracy of society.

With the women not being attracted to the men in their countries anymore, the men retreat to live out their VR sexlives and in turn begin to lose attraction for average physical women.

>women not being attracted to the men in their countries anymore

sounds like youve drank the kool-aid user, that is simply not true.

that gif is bloodcurdling I need to know more about this

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>women not being attracted to men

They aren't no prize winning dogs themselves. They play hard to get, when they are hard to want.

what more is there to know? its a porn site, with an all seeing eye as the logo, and a subliminal message stating that love is gone.

Oh my God. I need to stop watching porn.

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It's more of the opposite

we all should

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There are court cases that argue the exact same points, but FYI porno is a form of control just like drugs or any addictive substance. Just less volatile.
Look up how Israel played porn 24/7 when they took Ramalah and forced curfew.

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just make it illegal to profit off of it, job done, 99% of disappears overnight

Aren't they losing some profit though? there's a lot of (((free))) porn sites out there

>Look up how Israel played porn 24/7 when they took Ramalah and forced curfew.

know about that. pretty insane.

most of its free, which makes no sense. ad revenue doesnt go to the content creators in most cases either. its all about subversion, they profit from men being dumbed down

Not when the aim is subverting dump goyim. Porn is just a massive money laundering scheme to hide where these international Jewish demons are making their real money. Its a multi billion dollar industry and how sickening that it is even considered an industry what has happened to us how can we not see the insanity in this?

if i had to pay for it i wouldnt ever look at it.

>if i had to pay for it i wouldnt ever look at it.
This is a key aspect.

The industry is dominated by jews and they give white, Christian societies porn for free? That's all you need to know

Makes you wish that there was somebody crazy enough to go after them and shoot them up like what pic related did to youtube not too long ago

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Oii hope your wife is having fun with Abdul.

can we just stop subverting each other (whites). unless youre just a fucking shitskin.

They are using psychological subversion it free for a reason it is endlessly produced for a reason. Look at all the Jewish psychologist this phenomenon has been well researched they call it the coolidge effect. Ask yourselves why fertility is plummeting in the west aak youraelves why are young girls are turning to whoredom as youraelves why our generation thinks nothing of marrage and starting a family the very glue that jas kept our civilisatio together is being erode these Jews are a satanic force they say they are gids chosen people but thwre God is pure evil he is the Devil or satan whatever tou want to call him they are his chosen minions. We are cattle we are animals to them to be treated as a live stock to do as they wish free your minds from this poison wake up and spread the word of there evil like the Christians of old no mater the persecution stop believing in thier lies stop beliving what the Jew media is tell you. Turn this world on its head qe are turning into cockroaches and vermin because they have made a cesspool of our home of our civilisation.

porn has been instrumental in technological development and adoption. there's a pretty significant chance that if it weren't for porn, you wouldn't even be able to post here to complain about it.