>32 hour maximum work week
>6 week minimum vacation per year
If you are against this you are a corporate shill boomer cuck.
>32 hour maximum work week
>6 week minimum vacation per year
If you are against this you are a corporate shill boomer cuck.
So, europe?
Sure, if that's how it is there. I fucking hate work. How can I only get one week off every 3 months and think that's a good thing?
Meanwhile the fuckers that have been at the company for 9 years get 6 weeks off, excluding holidays. And 7 weeks off if you've been here 25 years. Fuck that shit.
Why do I have to work that long to get that much time off?
Because Gonzalez will do it if you don't, you can't have open borders and workers rights, europe is lucky we had those right before we opened the gates (and western europe was lucky they had the laws before letting easterners in)
You work for UPS?
Yeah that's very pessimistic, also typical lazy hippie nature of the modern socialist.
Got payed education by mommy and daddy to spew his hypothetical bullshit so that emotional people have something to bitch about.
Work conditions have improved greatly.
>He used the: "making money for greedy boss" argument
Either start your own business or realize that the boss pays for all the shit in the workplace and has to pay if the company goes to shit, while you just have to look for a new job.
Your Utopia will never happen.
No, spics can't do my job. Maybe pajeets. But even then, they are shit at English, and in tech in general.
No, I work at DOWNS.
>WHY SHOULD LOYALTY BE REWARDED?
>IF I CAN'T HAVE IT NOBODY ELSE SHOULD EITHER!
Nice crabs in a barrel mentality, you dense fuck. Once you rip away seniority rights NOBODY will get those extra vacation days, and you won't get them when you get older wither.
Look, Hans. Technology has greatly increased efficiency. 50 years ago they were saying people would be working 20 hour weeks in 20 years.
And what has happened instead? You have silicon valley and hedge fund billionaires and people are working the same hours or more for less money and buys less when factoring inflation.
I don't agree 100% with the quote, but it has valid arguments.
No, boomer. I'm saying everybody should have that amount of time off. And loyalty means shit to companies nowadays.
You think they wouldn't fire me immediately if they could find some pajeet to do my job for half the pay?
The only people that stick around that long are often so cucked they don't ever get a raise or promotion worth a shit anyway.
>No, boomer. I'm saying everybody should have that amount of time off. And loyalty means shit to companies nowadays.
Sure, but in reality all that happens is that seniority perks get stripped and everybody gets the same shitty deal as the new guy.
>The only people that stick around that long are often so cucked they don't ever get a raise or promotion worth a shit anyway.
So quit bitching and leave, cunt. Go become a JewTube celebrity and get paid millions to spend an hour a day spouting nonsense like Alex Jones.
wagies btfo
>So quit bitching and leave, cunt. Go become a JewTube celebrity and get paid millions to spend an hour a day spouting nonsense like Alex Jones.
Fuck off, boomer scum.
Aaaaaand the Mexicans will work 40+ hours with no holiday and all ‘poor’ whites are out of a job. Congratulations, you just gave immigrants a pay rise while simultaneously making millions of white people unemployable.
UK faggot detected
hour maximum work week
week minimum vacation per year
I'm pretty sure, you can do that, just don't expect any serious money from it
>B-BUT I DESERVE $25/HOUR FOR FLIPPING BURGERS
Well, tough shit M8, either you work your ass off for a lot of money, or you can be a poor, lazy slob.
It's your choice.
>bukowski
jew
sure it's obvious from the name, but even his words are jewish. he mocks waking up at 6:30. Why? does he not have farm animals? right. he's a city cuck and he's selling you a cuck lifestyle.
Why are you guys using spics as a foil? You know that if such labor laws were in place, they'd apply across the board, right? Like there'd be no shitty loopholes around it.
Or do you not understand the point of the OP?
So own a farm then you pencil dick fag. You get up around 4 am, do all the other shit besides driving in traffic, make about as much money as pushing papers on a desk but the work is a lot more physically demanding. You are working for yourself. No vacation if you own a dairy farm unless you pay people to work for you. 50+ hour work week.
Who cares, he's a kike? Some of the arguments are valid.
I don't give a shit about the money. Sure, I could do that now. But benefits would be shit, and job would be less stable.
>Millennial
>Not willing to work more than 6hours a day
>Complains about not having a future.
I dont mind working hard, i just come to find my hard work never gets me any where because as my dad says "i dont play the game" aka kiss ass. I never call in, i work my ass off, and try not to complain much, but after a year or so seeing how my hard work isn't getting me any where i get bitter, grow a bad attitude, and leave. In fact at my last job i put a target on my back, after me and a manager got into it, because some ass hat calls in once or twice a week fucking over not just me, but my fellow associate's so i took and stand and 3 months later got let go.
I gave forcing myself to work full time my best shot, ended up doing more and more expensive unhealthy shit to cope. I am now on government aid for anxiety and depression (yes that's right collecting money for something almost everyone has). Since I mostly encounter people who have the intelligence and imagination of a broken toaster, why should they not pay for me to live comfortably in the hopes that I create something worthwhile during my time on earth? If you think struggling makes you better than me you're really just expressing envy and self-pity.
>So own a farm then you pencil dick fag.
Hi there boomer goy. I'm sure Mr. Shekleberg really appreciates you putting your fellow wagecuck in his place for questioning current commonplace corporate work schedule and vacation policies. Your award of company stock options will be one ten thousandth that of the CEO. Thank you for playing.
Oh, look another boomer cuck shill. Jow Forums sure love their boss's cock I guess. Nigger, I get more shit done in 6 hours than my boomer managers get done in 30. It's not my fault they don't know how to open up a fucking word document.
It is a game. Lots of political bullshit. The people at the top are no smarter than anyone else. They just know how to play it.
Hard work isn't rewarded. It's all about how your boss perceives the work you do. You could shitpost on Jow Forums 30 hours a week, and if you can show your boss you did "x" really well, and it's important to him, you will be in his good graces.
>I don't give a shit about the money
Okay, so what's stopping you from becoming a part-time cashier at McDonalds?
>DUDE, the government will fix it lmao
>Government puts op's laws in place
>employers will put their workers in part-time
>workers will work for less money without any vacation, because part-time
good job op, you saved the poor!
You sound like you're your own worst enemy.
Lookit kiddo, this baby boomer lie about working your passion and finding your true path and all that hippie shit is making you miserable.
A job is a job. You show up, do the job to the best of your abilities, get paid, then go and live your life. Nothing more. Looking at work as anything other than that will make you burn out and be bitter.
A job is not an identity.
8 hours work, 8 hours play , 8 hours sleep
That is how life should be.
I’m kinda close to that already, I only work 35 hours a week and get 31 paid days off to use up anytime plus a week off at Christmas.
>Only get one week off every three months
Are you telling me you work for more than 80 days straight? Because I find that hard to believe.
6 weeks only ?? I'm a public servant and I have 10 weeks minimum vacation per year
And of course 35 hours maximum a week
>If you think struggling makes you better than me you're really just expressing envy and self-pity.
Where I think you might be misguided is in implying that because you don't work, you don't struggle or suffer. Fact is we all struggle/suffer regardless of one's job or lack of one.
"Idle hands are the devil's workshop." I prefer working than not. The less shitty job and higher pay, the better. But at the end of the day, an occupation is just a means to keep one's mind occupied the majority of the time.
Staying home and playing vidya all day every day is depressing as fuck. Routine is important. I'm just saying that we should have the option of working a bit less than we do. Especially given the fact that so much time at work is wasted to begin with.
I’m all for shorter working hours and greater pay, but there’s complex economics involved. You try to achieve this by government mandate and you’ll kill prosperity. Advancements in technology and free market competition are the only way
3 weeks paid vaca a year.
3 sick days per year
1 personal day per year
32 Hours is fine.
6 weeks vaca a year is too much.
There are positions where if you took 6 weeks off in a year, there is no possible way for that position to function.
They are squeezing too many life hours out of too few people. It hurts both those and the remainder, while strapping the former with more social costs.
Are you French?
>need an alarm clock to wake up
>not waking up naturally at 6am every day
Never going to make it
>A job is a job. You show up, do the job to the best of your abilities, get paid, then go and live your life
also this
>Work conditions have improved greatly.
Right, because now because we are risking death or exhausted every day, we should be grateful to our corporate overlords shall we?
FUCK YOU.
I don't take advice from people who sold themselves. Whore.
I hope you remember your ideals fondly when your skull is getting cracked on the pavement when the rioting starts.
>A job is a job. You show up, do the job to the best of your abilities, get paid, then go and live your life. Nothing more. Looking at work as anything other than that will make you burn out and be bitter.
>A job is not an identity.
This. It's a means to an end. And that end is keeping the mind active and busy during the week. Trust fund babies that never work end up miserable, druggies, or sudoku'd more often than not.
Oi,straya, m8. Go fetch me a bar-bay on a dingo baby, yea?
Nice. How'd you work your way to that?
Traffic, getting ready for work, getting ready for bed, daily exercise, doesn't leave much time for play though. 4 hours if you're lucky. And more like 9-10 hours of sleep is better. But definately at least 8.
Yes. Teachers here get tons of time off. It's fucking nice. They get paid shit though.
>Advancements in technology and free market competition are the only way
But we already have tons of advancements. So many work hours are completely wasted at most companies anyway, especially large companies. People could accomplish more with less time if given the option. They become more focused knowing they have less work time and have more energy because they have more time off.
>There are positions where if you took 6 weeks off in a year, there is no possible way for that position to function.
Ever heard of maternity leave? Companies are allowing husbands to take 16 weeks off paid leave now. 6 weeks a year isn't shit, especially if you spread it out.
>32 hour maximum work week
>maximum
No one is forcing you to work more than 32 hours, you fucking bum.
Maybe make it happen through social pressure or something. It would be good if it was world wide.
This.
Tbh the first time I went more than a month without a job, I fucking hated it.
The first 4 weeks were fucking amazing.
But after that, I just couldn't stand it.
I don't know if I felt like that because of how I was raised or whatever, but I just kept feeling this like, dread, that I was becoming the type of person I didn't want to be.
>I just kept feeling this like, dread, that I was becoming the type of person I didn't want to be
It's ok you can say nigger here lad
Meanwhile in Austria, a 60h work week is underway.
>This. It's a means to an end. And that end is keeping the mind active and busy during the week.
I truly feel bad for the Millennial Generation.
Their parents got wealthy in the largest economic and technological boom in history. But they sold out their children's futures in the process. The only hope this generation has is that their parents die off and leave them enough money to establish themselves and not step down a rung in the social ladder.
Yup. Meanwhile, niggers or illegals get everything for free, pop out babies nonstop, and never work (or work for cash under the table), while John B. Worker is lucky to spend maybe 5 hours a week of quality time with his kids.
I'm white.
I don't have to wake up that early; don't need an alarm clock. But it would be nice if I had more time off.
Oi, ur right scouser. Let me go and apploiy to vat job that let's me work only firty (30) hours wif the same benefits I get now. Oi, and we don't have bloody NHS loik ova there m8. We haf to pay for our spics healthcare we selves.
For me it's the opposite.
Thinking about having to work for the rest of my life fills me with dread.
There's literally nothing stopping you from starting your own business.
Fuck of with your entitlement syndrome.
Actually if they took 6 weeks off they would probably be more productive than those peasants with 2 or 3.
While i agree, when you just sit on the couch and surf the web, or watch tv day in, day out. You become depressed, (something many people on this site deal with), but my current job should be an easy, laid back job, but not when you have shit management running it, trying to make a nickle out of a penny. So i only work 30 hrs a week (usually get my 30 hrs in two days since the boss overworks his guys) and with 30 hrs a week i find myself with alot of free time, and some days i get down, and depressed just sitting inside all day, but then i think how i could have been forced to wake up at 2am to get to my work at 3am, so i can work, and clock out around 8pm, 9pm. Fuck i worked a 20 hr day last week, its makes those down and out depressed days worth it.
It’s called ‘running your own business’, you fucking wagecuck. Building inspection, appraisal, computer programming, just go to a trade school or teach yourself a marketable skill.
NHS is shit. I pay for my own healthcare, like every sane person here does. I like working and I like having money. What's the problem?
>scouser
Genuine west country lad here. Show some fucking respect, nigger.
>enjoy
fucking retard
I already work 40 hours a week and get over 6 weeks of paid vacation time a year at Walmart. Apply now goys!!!!
Well, it's not the rest of your life (hopefully). I mean you plan, save, etc., and eventually you have enough of a nest egg that you can live off of without having to work.
Then again, who the fuck knows what the future brings. Like boomers today - many of them never saved a nestegg. They are literally living paycheck to paycheck in retirement via Social Security. If that runs out, they are fucked.
Ha. Most boomers want to spend everything they have and leave their kids with nothing.
Fuck you chink, you run a business. See how that works out. You end up working and stressing more than when you have a regular job. And making about the same or much less.
This.
>What's the problem?
The problem is you're implying the modern employee has any negotiating power. Sure, there is some. But the good jobs - those with benefits like employer shared-expense healthcare, decent pay, etc., they all require at least 40 hours a week. I mean shit like that is just non-negotiable. Do you not get that?
And the large companies have mandated policies for vacation time across the board. There are no jobs out there with similar benefit packages with jobs descriptions of "oh btw, you only have to work 30 hours a week". That thinking is completely fucking delusional. And thinking you can negotiate something like that is as well.
So fuck off with your shit argument, m8.
France here, we have 35h max /week and 5 week vacation /year
also unemployment money (almost your previous monthly wage) for month after you quit a job
also if you don't work at all you can have 400 to 600 a month just doing nothing (called RSA)
Health is free (paid for by "not you")
Disability (mental included) grant you a normal monthly wage and you can sit on your ass
Basically if you don't have kids, a rent to pay or a loan you can stop working at any time.
Wish I had that opportunity juggling work well trying to get into and pay for collage is a pain in the ass.
Start for yourself if you don't like it faggot. I've started my own business three months ago and clock 80 hours a week to get that off the ground, you would crumble under the pressure. Your mindset is pathetic and your life will be as well because of it.
Start your own business and only work that much. I'm sure it will work out.
oh yeah and university is free (again, not paid by you) except for entry fees (200 - 300 that you pay when you join a uni) you are given money when your a student (a few hundreds a month for basic scholarship + free apartment in student building) to more than a thousand for some internship like research in advanced years)
Being a student give you discount on various thing like cultural events, subway pass, and even mcdonalds, you show your student card and you get a discount on your menu)
See for why starting a business is overrated. You work more, make about the same or less, and have less or no benefits.
And you have to deal with shit clients like boomers or spics depending on the type of business you start.
ITT:
Butthurt mutt is butthurt about a way he's making money.
>for why starting a business is overrated
It's pretty addictive actually, like unforgiving but really good vidya. Not having some retarded boomer breathing down your neck is also worth a lot.
So what you are saying is, people who own business or stay in executive positions work more than you do and even tho you don't want to work as much you demand more benefits
Interesting mentality
Also Paris is 30% niggers.
We have generous unemployment here, but u can't just quit ur job. You have to be laid off, and continue to search for work.. You can collect up to $490/ week for up to 6 months. But you have to have worked at least 6 months or so prior to that.
You basically need health insurance here as a precaution. But if you are healthy, you can go without it really. Most people are fat fucks here though.
There are colleges here that cost about $30,000 for a 4 year degree. That can lead to $40,000+ jobs. But I dunno. $500/month doesn't sound like much for rent in France.
Good for you. But don't be a boomer about it and say everyone else should do it as well.
I've worked for small businesses. I see how much the fucking owners work. They never take time off. Even when they are on vacation, they are fucking working. I don't want to do that.
What kind of business are you running, anyway.
>You end up working and stressing more than when you have a regular job. And making about the same or much less.
And yet you still want more.
Sure you're not a woman?
I offer the employer that I want no vacation and little to no benefits, Guess what? I get the job and you don't. Congratulations, you played yourself
No u
>Do you not get that?
No. If you don't want to work more then you do only have to work 30 hours a week.
>I want all these perks
>I want money
>But then I have to work hard
>That's not fair
>Why can't I get stuff I want just because?
Is that it? Improve yourself. Become useful.
You are painting with a very broad brush there, Australia.
Businesses vary widely depending on size and industry. As do their executive compensation. A small business owner can work as many or more hours than a F500 CEO, but make 1/1000th what the ceo makes.
Some managers in a large tech company can make well over 6 figures, but work little or no overtime.
>And yet you still want more.
>Sure you're not a woman?
I'm glad you bring this up. Diversity hires at large companies are another topic relevant to this. Nigs and women contribute shit to companies, but are preferred or in some industries mandated in quota hires. They make the same or more than their CIS male counterparts, but guess who actually does the work?
And don't get me started on HR and the vast majority of bullshit admin positions.
So yea, if all hires were just CIS dudes, they could get a lot more done is less time.
>People complaining about work.
>I literally have to work 24 hour shifts once per week.
Yeah, n'ah.
>But don't be a boomer about it and say everyone else should do it as well
Never do that, it really isn't for everybody.
>What kind of business are you running, anyway.
I'm in residential painting, literally started with just a van and a ladder. Two employees currently and a steady stream of work through a realtor buddy and internet advertising (no competitor here does this or SEO at all).
That really is too bad for you m8. It doesn't mean that i or anyone else should do that too.
I'm not saying that you or anybody else should; it's policy and is something you have to deal with in my line of work. I'm just saying that people complaining about working a piddly 6 hour shift should off themselves.
>I literally have to work 24 hour shifts once per week
No, now that's just masochistic on your part there user. Don't act like you are being forced to work that many hours without changing jobs or walking away.
Cool, good luck. I still need time to workout and rest, so I don't think I could ever do the 80 hr week thing even if it's just temporary.
What line of work?
Paramedic.
Why don't you just walk away, change industries? Its not like you guys make that much anyway. Definitely not enough to justify that work schedule.
And I don't understand why the medical profession has such unhealthy work conditions \schedules. I guest because it's all about making money really.
Everyone is so fat, and the medical industry is just making money off of people's obesity, which can easily be cured by fasting.
I make 42k per year. Fluctuates if there is overtime or not. Currently in school, as well, to become a PA; which bumps me up to 130k. I like my profession because I find medicine interesting and challenging. Any idiot can flip a burger or check you out at a retail store, but not everyone can keep a person alive in the back of van, going 80mph, getting IVs in, drugs pushed, bleeding halted, or intubated if necessary. The good thing about my schedule is this; I'm usually on 35 hours per week. One 24 hour shift and then a 7, and I'm done, unless they need me to cover. And if I push into OT, my pay doubles.
I have Asperger's. Stability doesn't exist for people like me and I have all or nothing motivation. For people like me you get fired or not hired the second they sense your difference. I might as well try to go for the top knowing the stable middle doesn't exist for me. I also need passion.Going the practical route for someone like me is still most likely going to fail. So knowing this why not shoot for the moon?
Fuck, I would just do the PA thing and quit. But ur life dude. No one can pay me enough to be up 24 hrs straight like that.
What fucking idiot came up with that schedule?
You're delusional if you think F500 CEOs work less than small business CEOs lmao
You clearly haven't seen any real day by day workload of executives in big companies.
Besides how is this a point at all. I am saying you earn more with more benefits if you work more it's p str8 it's always been. If you think benefits of higher ranks aren't justified in comparison to your job you just have no idea about workload they have. It's a meme that anyone above you sits all day doing nothing without getting fired p soon
Have you tried fasting? Are you fat? I bet fasting would fix your shit. Check out cnake diet on YouTube.
Why can't all CEOs be in touch with the people, like Soros?
How would fasting help me? Again there isn't any job stability for the average person let alone an Aspie so follow your passions makes more sense than being practical and only keeping the job for 2 years if you're normal and only keeping 2 months if you're Aspie. You can do all the right things and still fail. Plus for people like me getting into passions and special interests makes life bearable. I don't care if people say it's a lie. If the normal practical road yields nothing then it's not for me.
I'd prefer it if all CEOs, financiers, billionaires and millionaires in general got in touch with a length of rope tied to a lamp post
Work less, get paid less.
Why don't you just try telling employers you want to work less? Oh right, because it's not worth it to them. So don't be surprised when business flees to another country and you're unemployed.
Goddamn leftists think the economy occurs in a vacuum instead of each dollar representing potential manpower.
Nah, Aussie, you need to reread my posts. Anyway, you're delusional if you think ceos are some talented, sophisticated class of worker bees. Sure, some are. But not all. And it's a game at that level. You get elected like in politics by a BOD who are full of shit too.
Look at that bitch from Yahoo who ran the company to the ground and made millions in pay. Or HP, etc.
Middle level managers are the heart of a company's production I've heard. I guess maybe that's true. But a lot of them are shit too. They have to play the game too. Keep their boss happy, etc.
Says the burgerslave, 6 weeks is too much? Except for people who rule your country right?
Fasting has been used for thousands of years for spiritual/enlightenment purposes. I.e., brain and behavior function. And if you are fat, that goes and and hand.
Oh yea. I forgot all federal, state, and local politicians get tons of time off.
But CEOs are talented. Usually youre not being elected just cause why not. It doesn't imply you can't choose wrong candidate tho. However in no way it implies wrong candidate doesn't have shitload to deal with on daily basis.
How is following your passion bad advice when stability at a non abusive job no longer exists? It's either that or suffer and fail anyways.
Okay, user. You are naïve and/or inexperienced as fuck, m8. Like just look at all the fucking scandals involving ceos the past30 years.
Or when they fuck up, they get golden parachutes. These people are not super human geniuses. They are elected corporate sharks. Nothing else. They do or say what it takes to get in power and stay in power.
That's it. Sure, some have talent. Some don't. Doesn't make them any better or worse that many middle level managers. And many are just fucking retarded and just know how to work the game to their advantage.
Quit thinking they are something fucking special. They're not.
In Spain was 40 hour per week.
I want to have my own company because I know normies won't tolerate me enough to let me have stable non abusive employment. If normies reeeee over the money I'll be making too bad. They decided not to tolerate me.
> Like look at scandals
It's almost as if scandals of other workers below them were as interesting as CEO scandal and got reported equally
> When they fuck up they get golden parachutes
Movies much? Never seen fired by board CEO get parachute
> Some have talent
Those who don't won't stay in position that long unless whole head of company is retarded
And again my main point was all they have that normal workers don't is completely justified due to amount of shit they have to deal with in comparison to normal workers
I express my views freely and argue about stuff like gay rights , abortions, politics n shiet daily with my coworkers. Dunno about Americans but it's not hard to find politically incorrect company who likes free speech.
What if I like my job and want to work 40 hours a week?
In America simply being awkward and not the right fit gets you fired or bullied on the job. Your arguments on the job would surely get you fired here. This is why I'm for follow your dreams. You have little chance either way so you may as well go for what you love.
>32 hour maximum work week
lemme guess, you also want to bump up minimum wage to make up for those lost hours?