Why isn't the right organized and unified yet...

Why isn't the right organized and unified yet? As much as the left is a bundle of complete retardation they're still able to come together to achieve their hodgepodge goals, and they still massively sway education, public opinion and social politics. We need organized paramilitary organizations, we need proper improved information dissemination and we need to understand that being right about something isn't enough. Having truth on our side doesn't mean victory is imminent or even possible.

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leftists have no standards and will work with anyone from communists who openly say "liberals get the bullet too" to anarchist retards who just want to set fire to cop cars

but the whole point of the right wing is to have standards so we're always passing judgement on each other

because leaf the left has full media and normie support. If you come out as right-wing you get doxxed and people try to ruin your career and since everyone backs them they can actually do so for some people.

They only come together because they have huge sum of money, the help of governments and huge influence thanks to certain (((people))).

so defeatism?

Leftists have some standards and it's dangerous to underestimate a lot of these people for obvious reasons. Being willing to work with useful stooges is one of the key strengths of the left as far as I can see.

Nah, I'm just saying if the left didn't have so much help you would only see some rare half shaved women with blue hair screaming in the streets or idiots with guevara shirt and nobody would take them seriously.

The major problem the right have is it's far harder to come together and organize since we have some majors obstacles, especially in Europe where you don't have free speech.

The right organizes in times of need. They're typically not keen on collectivizing all the time and just operates like a bunch of sleeper cells instead. Give them the right trigger and they come out of the woodwork.

>The right organizes in times of need.
>Give them the right trigger.
This is the problem.

>checked
Also, no it does not mean defeatism. It means like most movements it starts off underground and in the shadows and you recruit subtly until you reach a point or have a network that is strong enough to defend/maintain you if you ever reveal your power level. But this is not the place to do it. You sound too much like a honey pot tbqh.

>You sound too much like a honey pot tbqh.
This is another problem. Maybe it's not defeatism but it's certainly fear and apprehension. A call for unity has no serious connotations one way or another, only that like minded people should organize to combat against civilizationally defiling groups.

everytime someone 'tries' it turns out to be a honeypot or a false flag.

see Unite the Right coming up in DC

Because despite memeing how much we like NatSoc, 90% of this board is lolbertarian and lazy as fuck

Rallies serve their purpose, but we need to get into politics.

>Hey you guys, you guys in your basements, I'm gonna need you all to give me an easy target to attack, thanks so much, bye
No.

Being a right-wing activist is socially stigmatized in a way that left-wing activism isn't. You risk social ostracization and it's difficult to get normies involved because they fear stepping outside the Overton Window.

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Not everyone here is a basement dwelling faggot like you.

Trotskyites. That is why.

I've read a very long post on this very subject. In a nutshell, the radical right has had organizations and funding backing them since the weatherman bombings around a half a decade ago, and the right has had none of this. That's why leftist violence is in the form of organized riots and attacks, and right wing forms of violence are usually in the form of lone wolf attacks such as Dylan Roof

you're obviously new here, or you're a really bad paid shill. either way, here comes the airplane.

Jow Forums is online. Anyone who claims to meet up or whatever in real life, is just pretending

I'm not even talking about Jow Forums organizing you retard, read the OP. Jow Forums /=/ the right

This will only happen to the first major gatherings. People aren't used to the right organizing. Once it becomes more normal, it will be impossible to doxx every single attendee in the future

AKA the Neocons.

Because there are a bunch of cucks who claim to be right wing, but refuse to accept the 88 along with the 14.
You cant have one without the other faggots.
Hitler was a great man, anyone who disagrees is a shitsucking faggot.

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they have yet to become a serious threat. when they get serious then I suspect so will we.

>they have yet to become a serious threat
wrong

>As much as the left is a bundle of complete retardation they're still able to come together to achieve their hodgepodge goals
That is because they have economic, media and often legal powers behind them.

That's why we need our own rigid media, not these self-serving Pop-Politics Youtube e-celebrities.

WWII forever fractured the right

The communists have decades of appologia on their side to keep leftism more or less unified.

that's a good point and I do believe there was a coordinated effort by the Soviets to install agents into Western education centres

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Big_tent
>In politics, a big tent or catch-all party is a type of political party that seeks to attract voters from different points of view and ideologies. This is in contrast to other parties that defend a determined ideology and seek voters who adhere to that ideology and convince people towards it.
Because there is no "right" which is fragmented and therefore requiring unification. The nebulous, undefined, international, shades-of-gray entity you think of when you say "the right" is actually endless sub divisions and permutations of a thousand different ideologies. The only thing that unites us are our opposing forces. And the same is true of "the left". We are the only thing that keeps them together.

Move along please.

except plenty of times in history unilateral unification has been achieved, who's to say it can't or won't happen under the banner of right wing politics?

>Because there are a bunch of cucks who claim to be right wing, but refuse to accept the 88 along with the 14.
>You cant have one without the other faggots.
>Hitler was a great man, anyone who disagrees is a shitsucking faggot.

>if you don't profess alignment with the literal nazis then you can't advocate for national and ethnic self-interest.
You're the kind of useful idiot that "the left" secretly loves. In their eyes, the morons you encourage to ruin their credibility with you are "being rightfully exposed". inb4 optics cuck, that isn't a rebuttal. Optics and emotional impact matter when trying to convince people. I'm not even disagreeing with your sentiments, but you're a moron if you think you can win via becoming a nazi, rather than winning in spite of any sympathy you feel for them and their cause.

>except plenty of times in history unilateral unification has been achieved

Shower me with some examples which you think aren't invalidated by the current state of affairs in the west. The closest any nation has come to "unilateral unification" in the last 50 years is America in the months after 9/11. And it was short-lasting and never truly tested at the polls.

A great deal of our power comes from our disorganization. Our leaders can't be slandered or subverted and our organizations can't be infiltrated because we have neither

Well Nazi Germany for one. The current state of affairs in the West comes exactly from the consequences of the first and second world wars.

Nice try, FBI
The disorganization is our most powerful weapon.
NEVER underestimate weaponized autism.

Disorganization is the ultimate weakness though which is why it's important to understand unification and organization should be a goal.

Read above. Show me one disorganized political party of the face of the planet that has true sway within their country's political system.

Jow Forums

>Jow Forums
>political party

>council of ricks when

People on the right tend to be hesitant to organize because of the legacy of the Bill Clinton. Probably half the leadership of right wing groups in the late 90's were law enforcement or paid informants. They were always trying to get the normal members to plan attacks of one kind or another so their parent agency could sweep in with a highly publicised raid.
It may not be today, and it may not come from groups with a high level of organization, but the shitskins will be purged from the US eventually.

The nazis didn't come to power in a world which had been subjected to 60 years of propaganda against nationalism, eugenics and ethnic self-interest. Different environment, different game. Different game, different rules.

Nazi Germany was not "unilateral unification". The NSDAP took 43.9% of the vote and then proceeded to exterminate or deport a significant chunk of the 56.1%. That is not "unilateral unification", not even of "the right" at the time, because the nazis executed hundreds of not thousands of their own side over the decades.

You're operating under the assumption that unilateral unification of the right is both possible AND desirable. I'm not convinced of either.

Organized groups are usually full of CIA niggers.

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this, i've seen too many offshoot discords to be about this life

>The nazis didn't come to power in a world which had been subjected to 60 years of propaganda against nationalism, eugenics and ethnic self-interest.
Oh it most certainly fucking did.

It's better this way. Decentralization allows any newcomer to find or make their niche. If someone hates the left for different reasons from me, I'm willing to hear him out and see if we can't make common cause. All I really want from someone is that they oppose the destruction of Western culture and its people. Or even that they simply don't support it. Because without more bodies we're just going to get plowed under.

(((they))) already successfully divided and conquered Jow Forums in its entirety

the only things you can agree on are the extremist points (((they))) want you to spout to make the left look better in comparison

>missing the point this badly
The burger is right. The undefined, shape-shifting form of Jow Forums and its offshoots is currently the greatest strength of "the right". Every somewhat competent analyst will say as much.
It really is "the left cant meme" writ large. There is a fundamental inability of anti-individual, victim-professing, anti-science left wing talking points to be viscerally or archetypically true. They will never be funny to sleeping normies the way "the right" can be, because our memes hook into people before they even realise they are consuming memes from "the right", they just see memes which confirm the truths they already feel. The worse thing you could do for this process is centralise and label and unify the messages of "the right", because then people conditioned against "the right" in any way will automatically avoid it. You can already see it, if you're not a newfag, happening to Jow Forums. We used to be able to run operations to troll "the left" and the media right here on Jow Forums in the open. People would catch on eventually sure, but days or weeks, sometimes months after we'd made our play and influenced the media cycle in our favour. That shit gets detected instantly now because 2016 and Trump's victory exploded the traffic of Jow Forums, especially the relative proportion of people opposed to us.

Of course, they start off by coming here to oppose "the right" for one reason or another. But sooner or later they find threads telling truths that they agree with, and they start to let their guard down. Once the first truthy Jow Forums meme hits home for them, the process is irreversible. Not all people who come to Jow Forums end up in the same place, but nearly all of them end up opposing "the left" and supporting "the right" in some way.

60 years prior to the nazi's rise to power, it was the 1870s. Please, show me the prodigious anti-nationalist, anti-ethnic-self-interest and anti-eugenics propaganda from back then.
You can't, because you're a fucking moron, and the vast majority of the upper and middle classes, IE, the elites and those controlling the media, supported every single one of those things for that entire period of time.

People like Karl Marx ascribed nothing but tactical usefulness in achieving revolution to nationalism, he hated the idea of nations. Rosa Luxemburg was another anti-nationalist who was a purveyor of anti-nationalist propaganda since before the first World War. To be anti-nationalist means to be anti-self interest, it comes baked in the cake.

There's two sources of propaganda as requested.

You're comparing the existence of Marx's writings and a random jewish bolshevik to the entire government, media and academic weight behind traditional western nationalism, imperialism and eugenics as they existed back then, to the state of affairs today?

Stop trying to draw parallels between the 1930s and today. They exist only in your imagination.

You asked from propaganda against nationalism and I provided it for you, if you want to deny the realities of the forces at play and the ideological warfare between nationalism and Bolshevism during the German Revolution that's not my problem.

You first asked me where unilateral unification was achieved, I said Nazi Germany. I didn't say anything about authoritarianism or even deny that's how the NSDAP got their stranglehold after 1933, and then the discussion suddenly becomes an argument over whether or not there was ever anti-nationalist propaganda 60 years of propaganda against nationalism. I provided you two pretty well know purveyors of anti-Nationalist propaganda, one being the most influential socialist to have ever lived in history. So influential to the point millions died implementing Marxist political theory, and millions died as a result of its implementation.

An organised right is an easy target to infiltrate, subvert, attack and utilise for an agenda.
A chaotic movement is a wildcard and uncontrollable

The Slave Master Class, composed of Jews, White Good Goys and even a few favorite Darkies, is Left of Center. They find it useful to use Far Left Useful Idiots as shock troops and distractions for anyone Centrist and Right Wing. All major political parties are owned by the (((Slave Masters))) and so is all the Money, News, Education and Entertainment. Whites are under attack from their own Elite as wells as from Jews, Niggers and anyone else in the Darkie Coalition. No other race is so completely betrayed by their own leadership. Expose Jewish Control over everything if you want whites to live.

The right IS organized. Its called SOCIETY user. Cry baby faggots have nothing but da struggle.
Im living the good life and you probably are too.

Being a leaf is the ultimate weakness
You know nothing

I studied the spanish civil war thoroughly. Even before the coup was declared most right wing groups, operated in small independent militias, without a centralized command structure. Only when the generals made their intentions known did the right start to organize. Many right wing groups did not trust the plotters and continued to operate separately, usually behind enemy lines in small numbers, doing assassination and saboteur work. I know of one organization in the capital region that really hated the communists and specialized in killing soviet/comintern military advisers and personnel.

Other groups grew exponentially. Like the falangists; Spanish fascists; whose numbers swelled after the crimes of the anarchists were unable to be kept hidden by the spanish republic. The falangists and anarchists ironically were staffed by people from catalonia and despised each other. They would go out of their way to fight each other, if the opposing forces flag was seen on the battlefield. There was one battle by a river, where the falangists attacked too early because they saw the black and red flag over an encampment. They nationalists still won the battle but franco purged the most hardcore of the falangists after the war.

>achieve their hodgepodge goals
like screaming incoherently in the streets?

Most of the right has jobs, a house, a wife/kids or are running businesses etc.. . The leftists are have nots with time to kill and are being led by the media and socialite garbage. We need to get the attention of the normie folk sitting in ignorant bliss back like we did in 2016

...and does nothing but shitpost, some petty vandalism, punch out a couple of weak people from the same socio-economic strata and generally look ridiculous.

The left isnt organized by the average joe in grass roots movements like the patriot prayer or Unite the Right.
They astro turf with ads in craigslist as soon as they want a protest so busloads of retards appear out of thin air. Moron SJWs see this on MSM and run down to join in on the liberal fuckery.
Everybody on the right says wow they sure are organized even though the liberal protestors dont even know ehat they are protesting for $15 an hour.