Hello Comrades. This general is for the discussion of Marxism-Leninism, the ideology of revolutionary socialism and communism.
Communism is the next stage of humanity following the capitalist stage and the socialist stage.
What exactly is communism according to Marxist-Leninists:
>Communism is a stage of society in which the productive infrastructure is socially owned, and goods are produced not in order to sell for profit, but in order to meet a social need. >Communism in it's full form is a stateless, classless society that follows the maxim "From each according to their ability, to each according to their need." >To achieve such a society Marxism-Leninism teaches us that we must replace the capitalist state, which is controlled by the capitalist class, by a socialist state, which is controlled by the working class. Then, a period of class struggle follows in which the capitalist class is liquidated by the working class. When the capitalist class has been completely vanquished, there will be only one class, the working class, and eventually the functions of the state will become indistinguishable from the functions of the society as a whole, and the state as such will 'wither away' as Marx said. marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1847/11/prin-com.htm marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1848/communist-manifesto/
Lel, how About both of you fuck off. Actually, I'll Keep the Nazi around, I was over at Lefty/pol/, and the unironically told me "Bomber harris do it again". Commies deserve death, the represent Nothing but their greed and their overlords.
Jonathan Collins
Why are Americlaps suckers for business interests?
Julian Lewis
>STILL MAD
Aiden Parker
Hello gomrades! XDDDD Dis general is for disgussion of margsism-lebonnism, da ideology of revolutionary socialism and gommunism.
Gommunism is da next stage of guckery following real society.
Wat exagtly is gommunism according to gommies:
>Gommunism is a stage of guckery in which the produgtive infrustrugture runs away from gommie country, and no goods are produced and beeple starve. XDDDD >Gommunism in full form is obressive, statist society dat follows maxim "gib gib gib!" :DDDD >To achieve gommunism we must replace broduction with murderous obressive rulers liek me, fug working glass beeple. XDDDD Struggle while I liquidate you all lol. When capitalists run away we win and I kill you all. Eventually the functions of state cease and state becomes murderous and indistinguishable from other gommies. Da state withers away liek da people. gommies.gom/fug/ gommies.gom/starve/
----------------------------------------- Da sdages of gommunism.
>Sdage one Bourgers aren't allowed to vode :DDD but otherwise da system is digtadorshib of gommies. Everything is stole by digtadors and digtadors rule all.
>Sdade two Withering All beeple who aren't digtador glass starve. XDDD Once glass disabears and we steal everything more beeple wither away. Bolice begome unnecessary as beeple are dead lol :DDDDD Central blanning begomes unnecessary begause sgarcity caused starving. Money is all ours.
>Sdage three Gommunism. No beeple. No food. My money. Much benis.
we are the oldest and most bitter foe of the fascist and they fear us most. Stay strong everybody, work out and get involved and let's sweep up the porcine fascist scum and give them excellent healthcare access along with everyone else.
John King
We can have a dialect, I'm fluent in language of dispensing bullets to commies skulls.
Robert Lee
sage parasites
Henry Reed
Kys
Camden Bell
>we are the oldest and most bitter foe of the fascist and they fear us most. We do not fear Judeo Communists.
>Stay strong everybody, work out and get involved and let's sweep up the porcine fascist scum and give them excellent healthcare access along with everyone else. You're nothing more than a lying, anti-White kike.
Julian Moore
Z.1. Report from the Federal Reserve proves we are already a communist nation. Welcome to Murica, comrade.
Sebastian Nelson
see the fascist posture like a dumb ape. understand that they are motivated by fear and watch them shriek and squeal their impotent threats
>see the fascist posture like a dumb ape. understand that they are motivated by fear and watch them shriek and squeal their impotent threats Said the anti-White that supports the Jewish led genocide of the White race.
Carson Morales
why don't you try "i am rubber you are glue" for your next argument? hahaha
>why don't you try "i am rubber you are glue" for your next argument? hahaha Why don't you try to explain how Communism isn't Jewish and therefore inherently anti-White?
Or do you admit that Communism is Jewish and that there's nothing wrong with being Jewish?
hahaha I don't have to prove anything to a knuckle dragging nazi. What can I do, show you facts and charts and wikipedia articles or other information sources meant to disprove your belief about the Jews and Communism and magically reach through to your soul and change your mind? I don't think it matters if I had a hand written treatise on the subject from space aliens supporting my claims to show you, a dumb Nazi like you is going to hand wave anything I can present and attack any source I cite because your head is too far up your own ass with conspiracy theories. Go ahead and think what you want about Jews, I will be busy helping create a society where your thoughts in particular are too impotent to matter to anyone.
Lincoln Fisher
>hahaha I don't have to prove anything to a knuckle dragging nazi. Yeah, I didn't think you would you anti-White Judeo Communist.
>What can I do, show you facts and charts you don't have facts and charts. You're a Judeo Communist.
>and wikipedia articles Wikipedia is a Jewish edited anti-white site.
>or other information sources You mean communist sources.
>meant to disprove your belief about the Jews and Communism But there is nothing that disproves the fact that Communism is Jewish.
>ahead and think what you want about Jews, I will be busy helping create a society where your thoughts in particular are too impotent to matter to anyone. That's because you're anti-White and you support White genocide. you want all Whites that oppose you and your jewish masters dead so you can destroy the White race in peace.
Western "communist" look at white people as the bourgeoise and non whites as the proletariat. There are more whites in poverty in western nations than entire non white populations. Most of the people want communism because they think they will be getting the free tings without doing any work. Their version of "workers" are wasting money on useless jobless degrees and complaining about isms while real communist(like myself) are for the real workers like the factory worker or coal miner for example that lost their job due to out soucring to other nations or company owners hiring illegal immigrants and firing native workers so they dont have to pay those workers near the amount of money so they can get richer
you see what I mean everybody? From his own mouth. there is no point trying to convince the fascist, one must only nullify the threat the fascist presents to themselves or others in the best way possible. Let them howl their insanity to the moon, but don't think trying to reach them halfway or build a bridge of common understanding is anything other than a fascist trick to reach their own ends of exterminating others while yelling "ow, the jew hit me"
Zachary Adams
you're the only "communist" here faggot. nobody gives a shit about your kike ideology. fascism will prevail.
I'm not sure either. I'd instantly support an environmental Party that isn't pozzed.
Yes, still mad, because after all those decades , the Jews and others that have died at the Hand of the Nazis have had their rememberance, but other genocides remain completely forgotten. Thus I find it fucked up. Keep up that rhetoric, "Worker's" "comrade".
Wyatt Baker
Don't worry nazi, I have no doubt there will always be stupid weak young men around to become fascists in some form or another. Your claim that nobody cares about my ideology is not quite true though, as you will see
Parker Moore
Oh, and on the entire communism/socialism Thing: I do think you "People" will have a Revival once Automation hits, and perhaps it'd even be possible to make a functioning socialist economy under modern computing power, but all those Technologies and utopie you Dream of will in the end fall to those very few rich, it will be a brutal technocracy, but at least I can smirk at the fact that you fags will get your faces bashed by automated riot Squads in a few decades from now.
William Thompson
All I have seen posted by you are ideology-pieces, that are alrready in the furnace compartment in the /zundel/ pdf Collection on my pc that I have yet to read, so don't worry About that. Aside from that you have provided no Sources.
Here, a greentext from another thread. >All of the walls were lined with communist flags, slogans, leaders, etc. >The meeting starts and it feels more like a church than a political party. >Seems highly unorganized and the people in there were old, shitskin, fat or S O Y. >Everything was about positivity and they all seemed to me, to be wearing fake smiles. >Spoke breifly about the rise of fascism. >lol, you have no fucking clue >Talked about trying to convert more shitskins to their side. >Someone pointed out that it might be hard due to Islam. >Totally shutdown because racism. >I had a good time just listening to their absolute denial of reality. >Played a few songs (Don't worry be happy (kek)) and the skiddadled. >Bro told me it felt like being in a cult. >I have had contact with QT afterwards, but not much. >After talking more politics, I think she caught on to me. Hasn't responded to my last message about economics and it's been nearly 4 months now.
The "coming" will be, when Automation really hits, but it will yet again be merely another Vehicle to further the interest of warringpower-structures, that will gladly have a few idiots Fighting for ideology to get a Little jab at the Competition in the war for technocratic might.
Jack Watson
I'm not entirely sure to what you are referring, i mostly came here to show support for the thread and then later rustle the jimmies of what appears to be an obsessive nazi who is either of a poor reading/writing level or a teenager
Nvm, didn't check ID, I assumed you were the OP. Remove the meme-flag. If you honestly care aobut convincing People, then you should just use a Geographic Location, or just Point out you are on a VPN.
Ayden Cruz
I am cynical about my ability to convince many people on this board about left wing politics, but I can't help but admire or cheer on other people who would still keep trying. like I said earlier, anything true that I can present to them will be called out as part of some conspiracy or other. It's not even about communism vs fascism, you run into this in any kind of left vs any kind of right wing political discussion these days. It takes a lot of one on one work in person to get through to someone, I think, and maybe some of it is a basic response to displays of victory or strength, like there is no way to reach them until they suffer major consequences for their ideas being enacted, maybe not even then. Its a terrible and costly situation for a country to be in
Julian Carter
Well, I am not really sold for any political ideology Right now, I have About 70GB of pdfs, and I will have to read a crapton before I can actually speak authoritatively. You can try to convince me About some aspects of communism, which you seem to suppport, going by your memeflag. I am just wondering, how do you justify the failures of communism. >Inb4 not real communism >Inb4 but it was simply not real Look, I think that a commie saying "it wasn't real communism" is just as bad as a nazi saying "but look at havaara, he just wanted the jews out". We have to keep the real life consequences, involving real life people of state doctrine in mind, when we see it enacted, not a theoretical image of it. Because the theoretical images never include the human imperfection. And if the human isn't "ready" for communsim, then it better be dropped like hot potatos, because my mother even (east German) had to deal with the SED-pressuring and other coercive forces. I am glad she wasn't politically active, but a friend of hers got psychologically ruined by surveillance and the fucked up stasi methods.
Jordan Turner
Efficient use of resources.
Bentley Sanchez
>we are the oldest and most bitter foe of the fascist >that's why the entire civilized world sees communism as being synonymous with murderous authoritarianism and Orwellian censorship, because we're the good guys
I don't justify the failures, obviously what happened in some countries in the 20th century was bad, but on the flip side we have seen systems in use in countries today that are capitalist and commit atrocities in turn, and have committed them in the past too of comparable size. You see the meme that the Nazis were socialist, but really they were quite friendly with the capitalist class once they achieved power and to say that they were unfriendly to labor was an understatement. The Vietnam and Iraq wars were largely pointless tragedies and atrocities performed for a capitalist cause willing to kill hundreds of thousands for profit. The act of degrading the environment for profit is something similar, just indirect. Given the idea that humans will eventually misuse any system they build and its really a question of degrees about how badly they will misuse it, one might think that there is hardly a difference then in what we use, but people can always try to make things better and can even manage doing that if only for a time, so in response to the failures and cruelties being done on a large scale around us in the modern world, the remedies would be policy that moves away from extreme capitalism and more towards a redistribution of wealth. It's not that there is no place for capitalism in the world, but as it is right now it is killing the world and we need to balance it back and ensure more in the way of essential human rights and benefits in countries where they can be afforded
David Evans
Everyday you and you along post this dead ethos and spend your life arguing for it against people who know better.
Youd have an easier chance of bringing the steam engine back than convincing anyone who isnt a mentally ill retard that the gay shit college plebs say would actually work. Failed 19th century ideas are called progressive.
Jace Sanchez
Dude, no one read that
Caleb Edwards
The Nazi's were unfriendly to labor organizing on its own. This was simply because unions at the time were often subverted by communist agitators. You can't say the state did nothing to try and make life better for the working class even as sacrifices needed to be made for the war effort.
Jeremiah Adams
The Nazi's were unfriendly to labor organizing on its own. This was simply because unions at the time were often subverted by communist agitators. You can't say the state did nothing to try and make life better for the working class even as sacrifices needed to be made for the war effort.
My biggest issue with communism is that it is so easy to break down with just a bit of organization by people intent on seizing more power and wealth for themselves. How do you intend to prevent human greed from destroying your system.
Xavier Morgan
Epik meme dood XDDDDD!!!!
Kevin Allen
>choses not work What are you gonna do about it beta faggot? Your god Marx commands you to feed me regardless.
