ITT: We discuss the current state of the right wing in Spain and the political party.
As many of you know, the govt of Spain up until June was lead by PP (cuckservatives, Merkel-owned puppets) when it was replaced by the PSOE (socialists/globalists, led by Pedro "dad had saunas for fags" Sanchez) after a motion of no confidence with the help of Podemos (commie cunts) and other small separatist parties. That new socialist govt opened the gates of the niggers denied by Salvini. Today PP elected a new leader after the last one - Rajoy stepped down. It was their last chance to go somewhat right wing again but they elected a moderate and pushed the party further to the center, leaving Spains political scene with virtually no right wing party. And here comes Vox- nationalists and populists.
Question is- will Vox fill the gap by stealing 3/4 of PP voter base and get around 15-17% next elections which are in 2020? Could they do it in 2 years?
Discuss.
VOX
Interesting.
VOX is a jew puppet, fuck them.
There are two groups in Vox, the Abascal and Ortega-Smith group which is not really zionist and the Bardaji and Monasterios group which is zionist.
Kill all Jews
I don't fucking care if there are 2 groups, their are not going to do shit in Spain.
They are the only sane party in Spain that will grow and get deputies elected. Better them than psoe or podemos. They are currently the only potent opposition.
Also
>2014
And what have you done for Spain?
Shameless self bump.
Should have made the thread during daytime when most spaniard anons are awake.
Are you from Spain? What are you doing in Bulgaria?
Based on my own experience, VOX members are way more redpilled than they show, specially the young ones.
Pure blooded bulgarian.
Just interested in the political happenings of different countries in the EU.
If lefties show "international solidarity" with like-minded parties and organisations all across the world why nationalists cant do the same?
They are chatholic scum
>Catholic
>bad
>Scum
Catholics in Spain are the sigle reason why this country isn't a communist shithole right now. As soon as the church started loosing it's power, the country became the degeneration cesspool it is now.
Literally nobody cares about them.
Nothing but respect for my president.
Vox: good at mini documentaries outside of politics
outside of politics
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This.
Catholics are why marranos and moriscos fuck spain bareback.
No Christianity, no marranos.
Only Aryans and Iberians.
CATHOLICS BTFO
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Marrano animale.
T. Muhamad Ibrahim Abdulha
Trump makes America a moral country again and the degenerate gays and leftists either go to jail or flee like rats
Fuck off with that type of argument. Europe is doomed to dissapear, theres no comming back.
Add Christianity there brother, make a pact for the Aryans and the Aryan religion and we will prevail.
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Podemos, Soros and PSOE supports Palestine not Israel you fucking retard
go trump! red wave inc
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If i should fall in battle my brothers who fight by my side
Gather my horse and weapons tell my family how i died
Until then i will be strong I will fight for all that is real
All who stand in my way will die by steel
¿Acaso sabes leer pedazo de zoquete?
Found the commie degenerate.
Catholics are jewish trash.
Spain cannot withstand a government of PSOE.
Last one broke Spain in record time of 3 years, when Spain was economically strong as a bull.
Now Spain is as weak as a catalan indepentist, and PSOE is still as retarded economically as ever (even more so, I would say).
The only party you can support is Ciudadanos, and hope the PSOE voters die of old age for next elections (avg age >65 years)
Más tonto y no naces.
You are such a fucking dumb larper it pains us to see.
But yeah, I know most Spainbros are actually severely depressed so...
marranos , I know you are there
I despise one and the other. And muslism even more. All the specrum.
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Yeah, Ciudadanos needs to infiltrated and reformulated into something else.
The cute girls there need a man to fuck them and put them in their place. It's a very "a-moral" party, some one needs to make it more moral.
Infuse it with some Tradition and Nationalism somehow.
Based as fuck.
Stop larping. Go away.
Fuck you semite.
Spaniards have jew-guilt because of 1492
I bet you embrace the religion of the state though.
All religions serve the same purpose, to infuse the immoral with a moral code to help and coexist with other people belonging to the same group.
The only way to be a real atheist is to be against the state, otherwise you're just changing gods for politicians and mass for public meetings.
Not all, but most of the spanish normies have jew-guilt because of the "holocaust", no joke.
¿Tienes algún problema cognitivo? Los rojos están en contra de Israel porque es un estado nacionalista antiglobalización, que es justo lo contrario del sionismo, retrasado
MUERTE AL COMUNISMO Y ARRIBA ESPAÑA! JOSE ANTONIO, PRESENTE!
Most of those "normies" are semites, whites have their facial bones at eye level with no recesion, semites eye sockets are 2 feet inside their skull and are sloping like this one.
Buen post
I know you are near
Whites skulls are forward and vertical/present.
Catalans are brothers the dividers and those who do not want unity are semites like this and enemies.
Cool bro, you can start helping by killing yourself then.
I would have voted PP for the first time in my life if Casado won and Lacalle was economy minister.
Now I'll probably vote vox or not vote at all
El problema mental lo tienes tú apoyando a Israel y confiando en putos judíos, haznos un favor a todos y vete a comer pollas a una sinagoga o logia (lo que más te guste pedazo de maricón).
Jews are hated by commies because muhh Palestine, and the far right because reasons here, only normies suck jew dick
The Castillian and Catalan are brothers completely and the same of same father and mother.
The CHAD brothers
The virgin seperatist
this is why catholicism died in Spain - you morons are just fucking fanatics. Jose Antonio was a retard and fascism is retarded. Only an idiot would like to live in a military-like order and being pressed by bureaucracy. Don't you have your own autonomy and brain?
how the hell is that possible when Spain barely even took part in WW2? ... Is it because of colonialism era atrocities?
Los liberales al paredón.
Con retrasados como tú normal que vaya así el país. Digno de Stormfront
You don´t know shit about Jose Antonio Primo de Rivera. He died as a martyr.
Retarded pole who doesnt understand fascism nor does he know what José Antonio Primo de Rivera said. Shove democracy up your ass faggot.
blackpilled people should just off themselves
I don't give a fuck. He was a fanatic and he would create the most terrifying bureaucratic state with lots of screaming and intrusiveness
Hey, Jose Antonio is one of the greatest persons that lived in Spain. Have some fucking respect for him or gtfo of this thread.
Regarding the holocaust shit, hollywood and normies are retards. And sure, "colonialism atrocities" are also a big
Topkek slavs still butthurt about fascism.
>Shove democracy
We don't live in a democracy you crank. We live in a mixed system with some undemocratic institutions, like courts
>Jose Antonio is one of the greatest persons that lived in Spain
for starry-eyed cranks not for moderate people
>N-Not true democracy! Once we reach TRUE democracy everything will be good!
Hmm reminds me to something
So, you don´t know a thing about him but somehow you manage to imagine how he would run things if he reached power.. Such an high IQ response.
>moderate people
Just fuck off already Mateusz, you don't know shit about José Antonio Primo de Rivera. Go eat some Pierogi faggot.
Cuidado el que va borrando mensajes. Llevo aquí más que tu edad así que cómeme los huevos, niño pseudonazi. Que no sabes ni que ideología tienes ni lo que apoya cada partido porque aún eres un crío
Falange wanted to give autonomy to individuals and farmers and workers and unite all society to work together.
Alfly, subnormal, deja de discutir con desconocidos en un foro de acicalado de mapaches. Ah, y el mongolo que apoya a Israel, tu también te puedes ir a tomar un poco por culo.
Inútil Vete a votar a nadie porque nadie te representa, moro de mierda
They hate Jews but couldn't recognize the nose of their leaders from a mile afar.
>Aqui no se pueden ni borrar mensajes
Menudo puto newfag larpeando de oldfag. Vuelve tú a forocoches, burbuja o del estercolero que seas, y no onions ni el user al que estás respondiendo para ver que eres un puto LARPer.
NATION –UNITY –EMPIRE
1. We believe in the supreme reality of Spain. The strengthening, elevating, and magnifying of this reality is the urgent collective goal of all Spaniards. Individual, group, and class interests must inexorably give way in order to achieve this goal.
2. Spain has a single destiny in the world. Every conspiracy against this common unity is
repulsive. Any kind of separatism is a crime which we shall not pardon. The existing Constitution, to the degree that it encourages disintegration, weakens this common destiny of Spain. Therefore we demand its annulment in a thundering voice.
3. We have the determination to build an Empire. We affirm that Spain’s historic fulfillment lies in Empire. We claim for Spain a preeminent position in Europe. We can tolerate neither international isolation nor foreign interference. As regards the countries of Hispanic America, we favor unification of their culture, economic interests and power. Spain will continue to act as the spiritual axis of the Hispanic world as a sign of her preeminence in worldwide enterprises.
4. Our armed forces on land, sea, and in the air must be kept trained and sufficiently large to assure to Spain at all times its complete independence and a status in the world that befits it. We shall bestow upon our Armed Forces of land, sea, and air all the dignity they merit, and we shall cause their military conception of life to infuse every aspect of Spanish life.
5. Spain shall once more seek her glory and her wealth on the sea lanes. Spain must aspire to become a great maritime power, for reasons of both defense and commerce. We demand for the fatherland equal status with others in maritime power and aerial routes.
Y borra el mensaje en el que dice que no sr pueden borrar mensajes, me cago en la leche merche.
Casado will fix PP so we don't have to use VOX as a throw away vote.
STATE –INDIVIDUAL –LIBERTY
6. Our State will be a totalitarian instrument to defend the integrity of the fatherland. All Spaniards will participate in this through their various family, municipal, and syndical roles. There shall be no participation in it by political parties. We shall implacably abolish the system of political parties and all of their consequences-inorganic suffrage, representation of clashing groups, and a Parliament of the type that is all too well known.
7. Human dignity, integrity, and freedom are eternal, intangible values. But one is not really free unless he is a part of a strong and free nation. No one will be permitted to use his freedom against the nation, which is the bulwark of the fatherland’s freedom. Rigorous discipline will prevent any attempt to envelop and disunite the Spanish people or to incite them against the destiny of the fatherland.
8. The National-Syndicalist State will permit all kinds of private initiative that are compatible
with the collective interest, and it will also protect and encourage the profitable ones.
ECONOMY –LABOUR –CLASS STRUGGLE
9. Our conception of Spain in the economic realm is that of a gigantic syndicate of producers.
We shall organize Spanish society corporatively through a system of vertical syndicates for the
various field of production, all working toward national economic unity.
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Es para matar a estos retrasados que se comen toda la propaganda sionista de los neonazis
O los que se comen esto que son los mismos que creen que Cs es derecha. Así va España
10. We repudiate the capitalistic system which shows no understanding of the needs of the
people, dehumanizes private property, and causes workers to be lumped together in a shapeless, miserable mass of people who are filled with desperation. Our spiritual and national conception of life also repudiates Marxism. We shall redirect the impetuousness of those working classes who today are led astray by Marxism, and we shall seek to bring them into direct participation in fulfilling the great task of the national state.
11. The National-Syndicalist State will not cruelly stand apart from man’s economic struggles,
nor watch impassively while the strongest class dominates the weakest. Our regime will eliminate the very roots of class struggle, because all who work together in production shall comprise one single organic entity. We reject and we shall prevent at all costs selfish interests from abusing others, and we shall halt anarchy in the field of labor relations.
12. The first duty of wealth-and our State shall so affirm-is to better the conditions of the people. It is intolerable that enormous masses of people should live wretchedly while a small number enjoy all kinds of luxuries.
13. The State will recognize private property as a legitimate means for achieving individual, family, and social goals, and will protect it against the abuses of large-scale finance capital, speculators, and money lenders.
14. We shall support the trend toward nationalization of banking services and, through a system of Corporations, the great public utilities.
15. All Spaniards have the right to work. Public agencies must of necessity provide support for those who find themselves in desperate straits. As we proceed toward a totally new structure, we shall maintain and strengthen all the advantages that existing social legislation gives to workers.
>Question is- will Vox fill the gap by stealing 3/4 of PP voter base and get around 15-17% next elections which are in 2020? Could they do it in 2 years?
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA no.
16. Unless they are disabled, all Spaniards have the duty to work. The National-Syndicalist State will not give the slightest consideration to those who fail to perform some useful function and who try to live as drones at the expense of the labor of the majority of people.
LAND
17. We must, at all costs, raise the standard of living in the countryside, which is Spain’s permanent source of food. To this end, we demand agreement that will bring to culmination without further delay the economic and social reforms of the agricultural sector.
18. Our program of economic reforms will enrich agricultural production by means of the following: By assuring a minimum remuneration to all agricultural producers. By demanding that there be restored to the countryside, in order to provide it with an adequate endowment, a portion of that which the rural population is paying to the cities for intellectual and commercial services. By organizing a truly national system of agricultural credit which will lend money to farmers at low interest against the guarantee of their property and crops, and redeem them from usury and local tyrants. By spreading education with respect to better methods of farming and sheep raising. By ordering the rational utilization of lands in accordance with their suitability and with marketing possibilities. By adjusting tariff policy in such a way as to protect agriculture and the livestock industry. By accelerating reclamation projects. By rationalizing the units of cultivation, so as to eliminate wasted latifundia and uneconomic, miniscule plots.
19. Our program of social reforms in the field of agriculture will be achieved: By redistributing arable and in such a way as to revive family farms and give energetic encouragement to the syndicalization of farm laborers. By redeeming from misery those masses of people who presently are barely eking out a living on sterile land, and by transferring such people to new and arable lands.
Yo onions antisemita y noto las (((coincidencias))) pero me toca bastante los cojones la gente que se queja de todo y no hace nada y ven judios y masones hasta en la sopa, o son incapaces de entender la geopolítica.
¿Cuál es tu ideología?
bla bla bla
lots of screaming. How did that work out for Spain? Is Spain stronk? Jose Antonio was a crank, like many in that era
Besides, wasn't fascism a futuristic and modernist movement? Shouldn't you all support carlists?
20. We shall undertake a relentless campaign of reforestation and livestock breeding, and we shall punish severely those who resist it. We shall support the compulsory, temporary mobilization of all Spanish youth for this historic goal of rebuilding the national commonwealth.
21. The State may expropriate without indemnity lands of those owners who either acquired them or exploited them illegally.
22. It will be the primary goal of the National-Syndicalist State to rebuild the communal patrimonies of the towns.
NATIONAL EDUCATION –RELIGION
23. It shall be the essential mission of the State to attain by means of rigorous disciplining of education a strong, united national spirit, and to instill in the souls of future generations a sense of rejoicing and pride in the fatherland. All men shall receive paramilitary training to prepare them for the honor of being enlisted in the National and Popular Army of Spain.
24. Cultural life shall be organized so that no talent will be undeveloped because of insufficient economic means. All who merit it shall be assured ready access to a higher education.
25. Our Movement incorporates the Catholic meaning-of glorious tradition, and especially in Spain-of national reconstruction. The Church and the State will co-ordinate their respective powers so as to permit no interference or activity that may impair the dignity of the State or national integrity.
Why are people in Spain so massively delusional? Either they're delusional leftists, or delusional right wingers talking about getting another Franco or Primo de Rivera or whatnot. Spain threads depress me, it's depressing to look into spaniard's delusional minds.
t. not a spaniard
then fuck off and go back to your country we are full nigger
NATIONAL REVOLUTION
26. The Falange Espanola Tradicionalista y de las JONS demands a new order, as set forth in the foregoing principles. In the face of the resistance from the present order, it calls for a revolution to implant this new order. Its method of procedure will be direct, bold, and combative. Life signifies the art and science of warfare (milicia) and must be lived with a spirit that is purified by service and sacrifice.
Do you embody the holy virtues of honor, strength, sacrifice for good, and glory?