South American Union General /sau/ - Spics Unite Edition

>What is South American Union?

South American Union is the idea of the United peoples' of South America, in South America a Nation; the establishment of a south american government with the power to act in the two spheres which are most important: wages and prices. It does NOT mean rapefugees, globalism, and kikery, each nation will have the power to direct their own affairs with existing congresses and will still be republics.

>Low IQ spics have never accomplished anything, what makes you think they will now?

South America has always been a vassal continent for the economic powers of the age, or (((imperial capitalism))) or (((communism/socialism))). We are now in the age of science, South America has the highest level of engineers, technicians, and professionals then its ever had in its history, and the flaws of the (((international system))) are making the global trade argument from libercucktarians more irrelevant.

>How will you be independant of (((them)))?

South America contains every raw material and foodstuff needed to successfully self sustain SA nation. By closing our economic system, we wil be independent of trade deficits and balance of payments, cheap 3rd world products, and the (((international financial system))). Credit will be used as a means of expanding the South American productive capacity, not kike speculation.

>what makes you think China and USA would allow something like this?

They wouldn't, and divided CIA niggers and chink hackers will try subvert. But united, we can form a nation with 500 million plus military power, atlantic and pacific naval presence, and a self contained economy. Chinks and burgers will not fuck with us then.

Welcome: All south americans, latin countries, central american indios

GTFO of thread: Canadians, scandicucks, the eternal kraut, KIKES, and chinks.

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Interesting idea, where will the capital of this new union be centered?

The capital city will be largely irrelevent, as it will be where SA a nation's congress will be located.

What is more important is the Capital (K) designation, will be assigned by government by action, meaning that a development policy will be set in place. This, so kikery doesn't begin within our own people by paying a new immigrant class low wages: industry will be developed regionally and government manipulation of wages in primary areas for development will make wages relatively similar in all areas of SA nation, so we won't have flight of labours from one nation to another, creating an underclass of immigrants.

this way, productive power with high wages is distributed evenly thanks to the economic leadership of government, and these high wages will be enough to consume what industry produces: to this end,equating production with consumption and anticipating the development of the economy with modern science will be the primary task of government.

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cringe

And do you plan to import niggers from Africa like that one unnamed union?

justify your answer, cuck.

>cuck buzzword

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Read the description. This won't be the EU, due to the EU being an absolute shit tier union which caused the same problems it aimed to prevent. Whilst your still subject to the internation system of trade, and still use tariffs etc. you will be fucked in the long run. Kikeapean union is unelected, has free movement of peoples' (which just created a new serf class, which happened with the poles in england for example) and the poor countries can't stay inside. Without economic leadership for the development of the continent, you're fucked. Plus no, the self contained economiy will be full enough with over 500 million. No importing niggers or arabs. South Americans, are much more based and don't give a fuck about political correctness, we won't fall for that kike bullshit.

Can we join the union? no one likes us at central america and we are technically more south americans, Panama is a meme country invented by the US, we used to have borders with Colombia.

am i supposed to know who those people are shill? do you even know where you are? you are an absolute faggot with no argument. Go suck ZOG cock.

First we would have to develop the continent. I suppose if you have raw materials, and a nation with space to expand, there can be exceptions granted, but ONLY under the popular vote of universal franchise of the south american people.

Well we do have a lot of resources and unexploited potential for business. We can supply lots of hydroelectric power if the get to build more dams, we have hundreds of unused square kilometers for plantations and a very big maritime territory with a lot of unexploited natural gas reserves, and well the fish of course.

Then, after a few years of development of the continent and generating surplus, I think you'd be able to join, as long as the Union movement grows in your country. Problem is Union movement would be attacked by commies and socialists, as well as conservashits and libercucks. It is the next stage of patriotism, development, and true independence from kikery or chink shenanigans.

Through the wage-price mechanism and capital allocation, Costa Rica could be developed 10x quicker then just freeing the market to international trade and the world cost system. Self contained union movement would let costa rican firms not have to compete with oriental cheap labour, so as to have an actual competitive system of private property.

We spics are more developed then we've ever been. Europeans are cucked. Pure indios are too savage. Mix the genius of the european with the manhood and savagery of the indigenas, and we should create a powerful union of development.

We will never unite with you,our country is far superior than any spanish american shithole that surrounds us with the exception of argentina which should be anexed.

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Why would you want to tether yourself to the rest of South America when you live in one of, if not the richest country on the continent?

Do you really want to give gibs to Peru and Venezuela? What about all of the "refugees" that will come to chile from the other countries?

our legislation, social issues, etc. will not be united, our economic development, and military will. You can keep your tranny degenerates and favelas, Joao. National sovereigntys will not be dissolved and free movement of peoples' will not be incentivized due to the new wealth and employment available in each country (which will be highly paid, so as to keep each nationality in their respective country).

And okay, don't be part of the Union, you would be beneficial, but colombia and ecuador as well as Venezuela have oil and gas. Be a kike/amerimutt/chink sattelite then, traitor.

>Why would you want to tether yourself to the rest of South America when you live in one of, if not the richest country on the continent?

We are still subject to low wages, the flux of the international financial system (being one of the most open economies in the world) and we basically still are monoexporting copper, which, who knows, may be somehow replaced by any scientific development like what happened to us with salt, and then what? when the kikes keep inflating asset bubbles and all we depend upon is the export trade, we are still bound to get fucked over.

>Do you really want to give gibs to Peru and Venezuela? What about all of the "refugees" that will come to chile from the other countries?

Due to the wage price mechanism and a strong development policy, capital allocation will be distributed to less developed nations of the continent, and through the wage price mechanism (raising wages in primary areas of industry and fixing prices on monopoly so as one economic sector can't extort SA nation) manufacturing and the exploitation of raw materials will be able to function at full capacity. Wages will have to be increased in order to absorb the entire productive capacity of modern science (without fear of having to cut down production so as to not upset an inexistent balance of payments). There will be employment in high wages in all parts of south america, therefore, no immigrants will run for gibs to different countries of the nation, but will be incentivized to stay home and develop.

Credit will not be used for international speculation, but for entrepreneurs who will have to expand and become a vital part of the economy (since we will cut off all foreign imports). All this can only be achieved by a government of SA a nation. Questions of sovereignty. social issues, etc. will still be given to each inidivdual nation. Sovereignty will be maintained, contintal development will be incentivized.

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The Foro of Sao Paulo wants something similar besides anti imperialism was promoted by the soviets in order to change the meaning of our nationalism to anti americanism, wake up.

FUCK OFF KIKE

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foro of sao paulo is full of communists and socialists. State socialist bureacracy is a kike invention and easily destroyed as well as ineffective, as socialism is still dependant on the international system of trade, and therefore, kikery. Plus it is an ineffective economic system, tried and tested.

You wake up Joao, socialism hates patriotic unions because they are an INTERNATIONALIST system, just like capitalism. it's two sides of the same kike coin. SA a nation is basically continental autarky independant from subversion (you know, the kind that got hitler and mussolini killed so the kikes could keep milking the world through international finance and money lending).

Independance from world powers like China, JewSA, EU and maybe Russia can only be achieved through SA a nation.

We are a continent richer then Africa in natural resources and we actually have the brainpower to make it work. The petty nationalisms of the past are a tool for your own control.

Constructive nationalism and patriotism through a non globalist union is the only way for your country to survive in the long run. Take the redpill.

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I know exactly what the Foro is thats why i said it, what my country needs is to become economically independent from all of you.

New KB thread is very related:

B-But...B-Brazil, I thought we had something special!

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suck a dick you fucking globalist jew slave
This is already a shithole and you want our very own EU? How fucking retarded can someone be
And you saying it will allow South America to be independent of jewry is laughable, since jewry defined the very core of what it is to be south american. It was them that designed this place as a race mixing hellhole destined to be a vassal, a lab for all sorts of experiments. Unless you can find a way of reversing racemixing and its consequences, jews will always have indirect power over this place.

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brazil is a fucking huge country, the fact it remains intact is already remarkable, add in that the rest of south america has enough differences between themselves as is and it becomes obvious why any union involving us could never happen.

We are already pretty divided in our own countries, so yeah, a south american union is pretty much fantasy at this point

Don’t trust anyone with this fucking flag that isn’t me. I’m on my way to somewhere where people actually have the dignity to work.
#keepPuertoRicoacontainmentisland

good lets share our misery

If I'm gonna fantasize about anything, it's about the south seceding, not a union with a bunch of indios and congolombians. Niggers from within brazil are enough trouble already

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Well argentobro, guess how all things are memed into reality? they start as a dream that becomes a vision. Of course the current gestalt wont allow it, you just need to have the idea prepared to germinate once the tides change direction.

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Why is southern Brazil so monolithically white compared to the rest of the country. I've heard confederates fled to Brazil after our civil war. Is that true?

>government intervention on prices and wages is a good thing

are you trying to turn the whole south america into Venezuela 2.0?

>Why is southern Brazil so monolithically white
Not anymore, it was once though. Read the wiki entrance on german brazilians, most of what's there is true of other Europeans in the south, although Germans were the majority. Most of them didn't even speak Portuguese until the government ((intervened)) in the late 30s, and the subversion hasn't stopped since. It has gone on overdrive in the last 20 years or so though, I can see that very clearly in my city: almost 50% of boomers have blue eyes, while in gen Z that might be 10% or less. Also, the obituary section in the local newspaper is FULL of german surnames, yet they're not being replaced. Well, they are, just not by other germans. The reason this was once a white region is because the immigrants, the Germans especially, explicitly refused to assimilate into brazilian culture and demographics, until the government banned everything german, that is. Italians for example were closer to brazilian culture, but in my state at least the italian region is doing better than the german, because they didn't industrialize as much and thus didn't make it easy for shitskins and niggers to come. The government sends them anyways, but the fact they still have some old school communities helps contain it. In the german region that is already gone.

> I've heard confederates fled to Brazil after our civil war. Is that true?
Yes, but to São Paulo, not the south. There is this one city in particular there called Americana IIRC. On the topic of those fleeing wars, the south got nazis instead. I know people descended from very famous generals

Thanks for the info user

So can we all agree we need some based form of comfy Fascism so we can fuck up all communists and libertarians?

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