/esg/ - Ethnostate General

You're a Jew. That's why you made this thread. To advocate for more ethnostates so Israel isn't the only one. Hopefull a Palestinian shoots you in the fucking face.

You're very confused and mistaken.

The only person confused is you. Probably because you're literally a fucking subhuman too stupid to do anything but shill on Jow Forums. How does it feel to be so pathetic and useless?

last thing the govt would EVER EVER do is allow a separatist group near a nuclear weapon

Jew plot to kill our people.

Good luck dealing with Portland and Seattle. If you fags were smart you would leave Oregon and Washington out and include all of Montana.

Do I see a great solution coming from you or any other naysayer? You claim that people who advocate for the creation of a white ethnostate are no better than the Israelis but you have not explained why, all you've done is shit out low brow remarks. You're not making any sense.

Well the "Government" in case you haven't noticed is beginning to crack and crumble. Hillary would have been the nail in the fucking coffin but thank God she wasn't. Now we have more time to prepare for when shit hits the fan and oh Brother is it going to hit it hard.

Why nigger?

... also include Wyoming.

We are, our plan is to take back the whole pie eventualyl. And we will deal with the cities just like our German brothers dealt with Berlin.
You do know about Berlin... Don't you?

>A Message From The Underground
youtube.com/watch?v=lJjB7oEXjmU
Thread for discussion of a white ethnostate, a homeland to be carved out for the hardworking white man.
Discuss the possibility of said ethnostate here, and how it should be ran. What type of government would we have? What laws should be set in place?
My personal opinion is that all white children of the future must have a home away from the toxic cultures of the other races, and a good work ethic and a set of important skills must be instilled into them. Laziness will not be tolerated, and an exercise regimen is highly encouraged to keep us prepared for any attacks on our peaceful way of life.
>POTENTIAL LOCATIONS
Northwest
Midwest
Northeast
>CURRENT PLAN
- Inspire our people
- Create/Contact groups like NWF (northwestfront.org/)
- Donate to the projects (building supplies, food, tools, etc)
- Acquire land (countryside/rural)
- Meet up and prepare for settling

>REMEMBER SELF IMPROVEMENT
No matter who you are, you can improve your life. Take control. Move forward. Dreams keeps us alive, fighting for them makes us feel alive.
Self Improvement information here pastebin.com/3Qv9B4r1

>DUTCH NATION-WIDE INVESTIGATION CONFIRMS: DIVERSITY DESTROYS SOCIAL COHESION
The Scientific Council for Government Policy released a scientific report which shows that ethnic diversity negatively impacts social cohesion.
Full report (in Dutch) here: wrr.nl/publicaties/verkenningen/2018/05/29/de-nieuwe-verscheidenheid
Translated from the full report (page 87): Our analysis shows that, when a neighbourhood becomes more diverse, it becomes less socially cohesive. This result is significant. Social-economic factors have been taken into account. Although the social-economic status of a neighbourhood impacts cohesion, the impact of diversity on social cohesion IS LARGER THAN THE IMPACT OF SOCIAL ECONOMIC STATUS.

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>our german brothers
(x) doubt

Enlighten me, I'm not too familiar with the specifics.

Good luck to you. I'd join you but I'm too much of a poorfag to move and I'm stuck where I am

When we get strong enough we'll force them out.

>The plan to form the republic is the Butler plan which consists of four phases. We are currently in phase one which consists of the active migration of racially aware whites to the areas outlined previously. By pooling our manpower in to concentrated areas and forming physical communities we can have a real effect on our environment and make lasting change.

What are the other 3 phases? this sounds interesting

Just how will we force all of the minorities and liberals out of there? I've been to Portland before and that place is flooded with with liberals.

I would move but I'm fucking poor as hell. I wish I wasn't stuck in California.

Ethnostates are absolutely retarded. Change my mind. I know of a much greater way to save the white race.

Don't bother, not only do these retards not include Wyoming the only state with a hope at succession, but to have it ran as NatSoc regime lmao. It's a newfags edgey wet dream, a child's vision who has been completely detailed by nazi larping into ACTUALLY thinking ANY form of socialism is acceptable. Also why 2 years mandatory service? Why not 3,4 maybe 5 or even lifetime obligations of so many hours per year when you have time off, or paid leave. This is National Socialism after all ehh it can implemented later on!

Here's what an actual ethnostate, or at least the rough idea would be like.
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>"Give me the genes, mi hermano!"

Well, when the Great Depression hit Europe I'd say it was Germany that got it the worst.
Berlin was known as the 'Most Immoral City on the Planet" at the time. Five U.S dollars could buy you any perverse desire you could possibly imagine from transsexuals to children, you name it, they had it for you. It's no surprise that Berlin in the 20's also held the greatest concentration of Communists and when the Great Depression hit Germany's money was absolutely worthless.
When Hitler came to power he completely stamped out these practices, he expelled or converted Communists and made Berlin one of the greatest cities on the planet, not the most perverse.
I'm telling you guys, these leftards and these "Oh so hardcore anarchists!" have nothing on us. They can't even fight and win against a bunch of retarded conservatards and they want to stage a revolution? lol no. No no no. They will be purged and converted. They will be the first in line to go.

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>one party national socialist republic

nice larp. The only viable future for white people is in soft "normie nationalism". This gay fashy stuff isn't the future. It isn't feasible.

>Landlocked
>Incredibly low infrastructure
>Dependent on other American states heavily for supplies
Yeah no.

When the time comes, you will not need worry about this. I would gladly allow you to live with me if you'd be willing to get on your own two feet and work. That means getting a good job or perhaps an education, and getting a WHITE woman to marry and bare your children. We are a family and when I have the resources I will help you and other migrants out. In time. For now I must worry about my education and job and getting on my feet. Then I can worry about bringing people like you in.
Best word of advice I can give you: Please save your money and invest time in a trade or go to college for a VIABLE job.

Jesus Christ stop with your cringe inducing posts. Look at your soft belly and lonely environment and take a moment to reflect on yourself. You aren't gonna do jack, and btw that economy was artificial especially around the war time period, it was set to collapse, I'll try and relocate sources on this brb

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So expand westward. Conquest is the white man's specialty.

>Get a white woman to marry and bare your children
Already on it, there's actually this girl who I've fully redpilled on everything who I see every Sunday, she's definitely wife material. She's a bit of a landwhale but I'm helping her lose weight, and she's made signifigant progress, although still a lot more to go

>every sunday
Work or kirk?

Ya but no fat fucks or autists. Period.

I have a six pack, nigger. I just got back from the gym lol.

We've concentrated resources and already have the plan and the numbers situated in the Northwest. Sorry lad, but we're going to expand Eastward.

I'm very glad to hear it. I'm really happy for you.
Another word of advice to you considering this may fall on the ears of a potential migrant. I'm not certain about your personal life choices nor do I mean to judge or intrude, but if you have any "quirks" that you have on hand I strongly recommend that you purge them for the betterment of yourself today. We don't just want people coming in from all walks, having a white skin does not equate to having a white heart. Take a good look at the Alt Right.
I wish you the very best and you will see me posting here again. Good luck.

that one of the hapa twins after the eye surgery? sad i cant understand no being comfortable with yourself

You losers will never have an “ethnostate”. Most of you cant even operate a washing machine or brush your teeth yet we are meant to believe a bunch of incel trailer park dwelling unemployed loser shits are going to go set up their exclusive nation? Yea right. The only reason you retards fantasise about this shit is because you’re powerless morons with power fantasies about being the leader of your new nation. It’s basically mtgow amped up to maximum autism levels. Just build a model railway or something like a normal autist.

I won't deny access to the ocean is essential, hence why a highway / extension intersecting Oregon and Cali would be necessary which the OP in the video talks about. Ideally having all the states you mentioned is better, but the key word is ideally. Oregon will never EVER leave. Neither will Washington. And national socialism, rebranded or otherwise has nothing redeeming beyond nationalism which isn't mutual to the latter half of the ideology (the more dominant aspect I may add) It will be hundreds if years before negative stigma is no longer attached to it, and as you know we don't have that much time...

t. Jorge Gonzales

this is a wet dream, it will never happen
something that could work is encouraging every white, right wing person to move to a single state in the US until they are able to lawfully and peacefully vote themselves into power there
subtle signs could help recognize one another, this is a viable foundation for a secret society

These states have a total of 15m habitants and the majority won't support the idea of an ethno-state and some are not white. How would the movement deal with all these people?

If somehow the movement succeds (((THEY))) would send US and EU troops to fight against it and the whole thing would end in a week because it would be impossible to win against highly trained troops in bigger numbers

...kirk? idk what you mean by that, but she comes visit every week, Sunday is pretty much the only time both of us are free

I'm not sure how I can get a viable job without going into debt though. One of the things i am completely adamant about is that I refuse to take out loans at any costs, I will not subject myself to (((usury))) and I hope any and all interest will be banned in the new ethnostate. But I can't get into higher education as a result, and so I'm stuck working a dead end minimum wage job

>"Yeah the greatest race known to mankind has been completely subjugated along with the rest of humanity, so what?"
>"Do something about it? What are you a fat retarded autist?"

Well, what are you interested in? Do you have a fascination with building? Do you have any off set skills that make you unique that could potentially be profitable?
You know the internet is a great tool for information nowadays. People all over the world are making new ways to get money, it's really not that hard.
I've had friends of mine that go to thrift stores and cherry pick clothes that they sell on ebay for really great prices, brand new stuff too sometimes even gucci products that go for hundreds. There's always something to do. I think the most important part is just saving your money.

Yeah right, do something about it. I personally don’t care about race. Not my fucking problem. I don’t think its a problem at all really why are you pissing and moaning about what other people do? Does it affect you? No wonder you have delusional power fantasies. Mind your own business loser. Go sell your old clothes for pocket money.

>not taking any of BC or Alberta
wasted potential

Not your problem? If white people go, it's the whole fucking world's problem, dumbass.

We have cells in BC ding dong. They're included in the Butler plan.

But why is that a problem? Why do you think white people are going anyway? What a stupid belief. You going to worry about all the races melding together? That will take thousands of years you idiot and we will probably have destroyed the earth and made it unliveable by then anyway. Imagine worrying about the race of someone in 5000 years. What a ridiculous pointless exercise that is. Congrats loser you played yourself.

>no visibly non-White element in their genetic makeup
What is this in practice? Not letting in Italians or eye color or what

I've always had an interest in chemistry and I wanted to get into chemical engineering, but again, no money and refuse to take out a loan. I also seem to have a knack for learning languages too. My native langs are English and German as my father speaks it fluently and I grew up in the house speaking both. I picked up Spanish, Arabic, and Turkish. The reason I learned them boils down to "know your enemy" , that and I'm an autist when it comes to middle east politics because it's so active there and it's interesting to look at

The elements that are breaking down society and destroying the Earth are not European in origin. Whites gifted the world with the greatest civilizations ever produced in History but they were ultimately subverted in time. Not a race on the planet has been able to rival our ingenuity. If you want the world to stagnate and grow cold then that's your choice. My choice is to keep fighting for a golden age of mankind. One that will last forever.

Anyone that says Italians or Greeks or Slavs aren't white is just shilling. It's very easy to pick out who's who user you simply have to look at them.

I think you'd do good learning a trade. It will put money in your pocket and give you something to do.

Yeah right as if its not whites that run the companies that pollute the shit out of the place.
Why are you banging on about history and shit anyway? That’s not something that needs to pen preserved. It already is preserved by its happening. You are fucking stupid. There will never be a “golden age” you fucking idiot, there never was, never will be. Got nothing to do with you anyway, you cant make it happen you cant do shit. Look at this alt right jerry springer shit show that’s happening now. Look at all the leaders of all these grouplets. They all want their little ethnostate but none of them can do SHIT apart from getting themselves in legal trouble or getting into street fights. Well done golden age losers. LOL

>Yeah right as if its not whites that run the companies
>run the companies
>(((Companies)))
The amount of butthurt you poured into your post was astounding. Go have fun stagnating and doing nothing for the rest of your life while real men sacrifice themselves for the idea of a better world. You want to talk history? Okay, historically when millions of White People want something bad enough they get it one way or the other. You're nothing more than a naysayer and I feel sorry for you.

I'm all for you PNW boys, but you guys realize you stand no chance in hell against the full force the federal government alone, right?
You need a nationwide blunt force attack to overwhelm the feds, it would be the only possible way.

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>full force of* the federal

What the hell is that map lol.

HAHAHA REAL MAN SACRIFICING HIMSELF!
Yeah SUUUURE, you aren’t doing shit idiot. Otherwise you wouldn’t be here fantasising about it. “Real men” fuck that made me laugh. Also pulling that “I feel sorry for you” bullshit high road crap Fuck off idiot you think you can gaslight me over a Jow Forums thread? How fucking dumb are you? You think that would work?

Oh man some random spastic off the internet told me he feels sorry for me! Wow that must be because I really suck.

Yeah, no, nice move fuckwit. You couldn’t organise a fuck in a brothel with 500 dollars tied around your dick let alone a white golden ethno state for REAL MEN.

I agree that there is a lot of unrealistic larping. The idea of a tiny group of white nationalist being able to succeed on the PNW of all places seems foolish. There is no history of secession and it includes one of the most blue pilled areas in the country. There are a fuck ton of latent white nationalists in the south and they'd be a hell of a lot more likely to support what you want. And they have a history of secession, which is much more inspiring and legitimate to the common man than some LARP. You can establish it in an all white sea of blue pilled cucks, or establish it in an area of self segregating whites who deal with the shit brought up by multiculturalism and are definitely more likely to sympathize with your cause. The whites in the south would be a fuckton more motivated to create their own separate community away from niggers and spics rather than an all white area without significant minority populations.
I think this plan is poorly thought out in a concrete, realistic sense that relies almost entirely on a mass Exodus of white nationalists across the nation at the behest of what usually devolves into edgy kids larping. You should have a plan to utilize the people of the area you're interested in rather than just the mass Exodus.

Patrick, your reddit is showing.
The current government is on its last legs, user. Their grip is beginning to crumble. The whole world knows that the dollar is going to fall as well.

No I’m a REAL MAN and I’m going to sacrifice myself for a thousand golden years.

You're a real nigger is what you are.

You’re a guy with a plan doomed to failure telling me that apparently my life is going nowhere.
All based around the fact you’re scared of people who don’t look like you.

It doesn't matter if you think the government will collapse. Most people in America would want to restore America and that won't change in under a decade. The only areas that might unironically want to separate would be the South, Texas, and maybe California if they're autistic and dumb enough to do that. You won't just be given free reign to make your own country, and the nation won't just collapse into a vacuum. As soon as this 'collapse' occurs we get military rule within a very short period. Our military isn't just going to go full AWOL. At the most we might get Roman and have generals openly vying for and fighting for influence now that we don't have the facade of freedom. But even that is highly unlikely beyond just spy shit. You have to understand the state of the modern world, not just hope that it all comes tumbling down or assuming that it will happen in a vacuum.

if it doesn't resemble tortuga they can fuckin' keep it

Yeah man, there's only one race, the human race.

I think the fallacy most people have in their thinking is that people genuinely think that the American Empire is some sort of invincible machine which will exist forever and ever and there's nothing we can do to secure the existence of our people wah wah wah.
Look I'm not asking you to become a terrorist or to throw away your life or die for your race, I'm asking you to live for your race. If we at the very least put a few thousand well versed racially aware whites together within driving distance we can withstand whatever comes our way. That's what I have in mind.

Why not just all move into he same trailer park and fuck each other’s wives?

I just want this general to cut way the fuck back on larping and get some realpolitik going if you're/we're serious. LARPing and edgy fantasies just drive away actually serious people who want to form communities. If you want to be around racially aware whites, I don't understand why you don't think the south fits that bill. There are plenty of all white areas that actually give off vibes to let niggers know they're not as welcome. The rural south is absolutely /ourland/.

I get that you're shitting on him, but there's nothing wrong with wanting to live in a homogenous community if you cut way back on the LARPing.

We've had talks about this. But I'll wrap it up because I'm getting pretty sleepy.
>Too close to the Capital
>Way too many niggers
>Being a racist does not equate to being racially aware nor does it equate to being smart
Just to name a few.

Expecting to create that is larping in itself desu. Unless you own the land or have the power then you have no right dictating anything and its just a ridiculous power fantasy.

>Thinking the entire south is retarded
Believing these kinds of memes is part of your problem. People in the south live in the reality of a multiethnic/cultural society and thus are more likely to oppose it than the bluepilled whites in the northwest. I'm not only talking about Appalachian rednecks, but in their case if your one goal was just to be around racially aware whites in case "something" went down (as you said in a previous post), then that's still a much better solution than the PNW idea.
>Too many niggers
Except the south is still pretty segregated. The very fact of their proximity is what makes Southerners much more receptive to your message.
>Too close to the capital
Wat? You realize the U.S has bases in every single state and won't let you secede no matter what part of the country you're in? Proximity to DC has zero actual relevance, what would have relevance is the legitimacy of a southern secession movement though. You can't just AstroTurf a movement in the PNW, you need organic support.

I'm not expecting to create an ethnoSTATE, only an ethnocommunity. Ideally it would start as homesteaders who already just want to fuck off to the woods, like I want to do. If enough people joined in you might get tertiary or secondary businesses to spring up eventually. If not, well it's what I and others wanted to do anyway, so we still got to do that. When you make it about personal goals it becomes less of a LARP that relies on group participation and something more practical. My desire is independent of whether I can persuade this general of their folly, and that's what it takes for this sort of plan to work. We couldn't enforce laws and honestly I'm not sure I'd want us to with some of the edgy shit talked about here. We'd just socially enforce our norms; we don't want to live with degenerates and we'd make it so they wouldn't want to live with us. Ostensibly we'd just be a group of exclusionary racists who owned the land and obeyed the law, but more of an enclave in practicality.

Greater Cascadia has been gamed time and again, though hard, it wont be impossible to accomplish. Most people, even here, forget what a charismatic leader can do.

Forgot to mention, the benefits of the land in question are worth the effort. Im tired or id stay up and chat about it. Also, beware the NWF, theyre most likely CO.

Sounds like you just want to go camping.

Are you faggos for real? I could actually move back to burgerstan for this. I was kind of thinking land in MT would be goat anyways

OP might be, and it does sound nice, but that's about it currently. Check back in 20 years and this might become more realistic.

YOu know, you're always attempting to demoralize white people. Ever stop to think that just maybe it isn't working anymore?

I'm just pumped to see action in this direction. It's too bad my waifu and hapa kids wont be allowed in the ethnostate, but fuck it. This has to happen.
After spending a few years in a homogenous society its obvious that multiculturalism is a disaster waiting to happen

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You realize that this is literally what you said?

Anyone spewing this is a massive faggot. AMERICA was founded as the White Ethnostate. The whole fucking thing belongs to the White Man. Take it back from the niggers and spics and kikes, you embarrassing fucking retard.

What's your plan for doing that faggot? Don't have one do you? Time to get witht heprogram knucklehead. NF rules USA drools.

Does anyone else get more and more ethnostatey the more they interact with white children? My summer job involves working with boys aged 7 - 13, majority of them are really fucking white, 56% memes aside so many of these little fuckers have brown or blonde hair with blue or green eyes and fair skin, and they're always the fucking best behaved in comparison to the random nigger or spic thrown into our program they are just so much cuter, smarter, more energetic, more well mannered. Every time I meet a new, well behaved white boy my dream of having a family of 8 in a majority to entirely white area gets stronger.

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>no red in the flag

it's shit

lmao

>What's your plan for doing that

Expelling/exterminating the shitskins. Sadly, I'm the only one with the stomach for it so it'll never happen. This is also the same reason that NF will never work, even if it were to ever get off the ground. Eventually, niggers will move in and ruin everything, and you'll just be pushed out again. Then where will you go?

You haven't done your homework. NF is all about exterminating the niggers. Every single last one of them.

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Congratulations, you're about to colonize Europa!
>What's the first thing you do in your new white Ethnomoon?
>Do "honorary whites" like nips and poos get a pass?
>Do you keep the name Europa or you'd call it something else?

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Why are you so obsessed with pretty children you weirdie?

Hey Schlomo turn that ship around!!

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>socialist republic
Neck yourself faggot

For the love of god don’t call it national socialism. It’s been memed too hard for our target demographic. >B-but it’s not anything like commie socialism!
Explain that to infowars

>Running away from fags and hippy degenerates

Mainstream conservatives are just as resistant to white nationalism, and they have guns. Good luck having a bunch of edgy internet betas trying to win them over.

Pick better battles user. This is step one.

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We'll call it social nationalism. The local libtards won't even know what hit'em.

Accepting the true interpretation of National Socialism breaks the dominance of fiscal policy in conservative thought.

The alternative of changing names makes us look like lying socialists as opposed to just socialists.

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The all out rebellion bullshit is not realistic, but exclusive white communities are a whole lot better than what we have now.

Yeah this isn't going to happen.

I've got a few good goys moving out to PNW in the next 3 years, based on college and such. Really hope to meet covington some day.