Classical music

Rachmaninoff is my favorite.

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Vaughan Williams is one of my favorites. I love what he did with old English Chorales. Also, his Fantasia on a Theme by Thomas Tallis really speaks to me on a spiritual level.

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No problem. Check out his 5th symphony too, that one is good.

Also, its hard to beat Handel. Handel's Messiah- Its not Christmas day without hearing it in my house.

>my favorite composers are Tchaikovsky and Rachmaninoff
Yuck.

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>being so retarded you think political thinking and issues are necessarily linear
kill yourself OP.
>inb4 libtard
>inb4 muh unironically believing an understanding of hierarchy is important while simultaneously ignoring it when it comes to some arbitrary system of progression

Antonin Dvorak
Alexander Scriabin

Vivaldi is my favorite, but everybody likes different composers for different reasons. Check this out m.youtube.com/watch?v=SY3Kxf7ZTeI

It is interesting to see how pol appreciates Rachmaninoff when he usually gets overlooked.

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I like German operettas, mainly Lehar.

>he usually gets overlooked
Is this a joke? If anything he's even more overplayed than the other Russian Romantics.

Go for Shostakovich and Pfitzner if you want to be edgy. The symphonies of Furtwangler, expecially the 2nd, are fine as well.

>Scriabin
My negro.

Holst, nigga. The Planets is classic.

This is exactly the type of bullshit that makes people hate classical. Listen to what you like, fuck everyone else.

Btw, putting Tchaikovsky up there is a disservice, his waltzes were some of the best.

I don't know much about classical music but I like listening to Bruckner.

If you're willing to go back as far as the 1600s, Claudio Monteverdi is a great composer right on the border between the Renaissance and Baroque periods. In particular I really enjoy his opera L'Orfeo
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Listening to this right now

I really like Dvorak
Slavonic dances is comfy

Schumann or gtfo.

Air on the G String.

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He's consistently placed low in rankings compared to inferior composers.

Might as well listen to Hans Zimmer soundtracks. There is literally nothing wrong with having standards.

>He's consistently placed low in rankings
Low is where he belongs.

Ayyy my mans. Got a little Gotterdammerung on rn. Saturn to come.

Classical elitism is the death of classical music.You're comparable to modern art critics. Give me one good reason why Tchaikovsky is a bad (or firetruck) composer.

Jk, I fucking love Brahms too.

Brahms Violin Concerto in D major
youtu.be/QgPmLPd6KB0

Vs stale mass produced guttertrash like Vivaldi he's a dream.

>Give me one good reason why Tchaikovsky is a bad (or firetruck) composer.
His attempts at sonata allegro form are borderline embarrassing, but for some reason he kept on trying and trying.

Not to mention there is no Universe where Hans ZImmer would be confused with any of the aforementioned artists. Zimmer does his own thing, in his own niche, and he would agree. He might use the same instruments as some of these classical composers but the similarity ends there.

My absolute favorite is Mendelssohn. I also like Brahams, Dvorak, and Chopin.

It's so cute when Romantic kids seize on an innovative master like Vivaldi as an object of scorn.

I don't think I like Richard Wagner. Sure he hated the jews, but he was pretty degenerate revolutionary. Fascinating fellow, but Michael E Jones's research makes me distrust him.

And this discounts his Waltzes and Ballets? You have shit taste.

Next you'll be telling me about being classically trained. Kek.

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Ah, it's all clear now. You're one of the elevator music fans. Please go on and tell me about your favorite pieces with 5 views on youtube.

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The waltz is not a serious genre, and ballet didn't get (musically) interesting until Stravinsky.

I wasn't going to mention it, but I did in fact major in music.

To the dilettante I was recently engaging with on here: in the last classical thread:

All baroque composers borrowed music. It is what they did with the borrowings that counts. Bach never wrote an original chorale, he borrowed all of them. Handel, as one critic said, changed rocks into diamonds when he borrowed. You are in the .0001 group who thinks Vivaldi is greater than Handel. He is not even in the same league.

I am extremely well informed having worked in musicology for years. Insecurity does not exist for me, because I don't debate things I know nothing about. Music is for me the grandest art and when crape comes out of mouths like yours, I speak up, and I can back up it up. So be careful.

If you love Vivaldi fine, but you cross the line when you compare his music to the greatest Baroque composers. I would in addition to the great two, Handel and Bach, rate several other composers of the time over Vivaldi. There is no arguing about taste, that is why your comments on Vivaldi are valid. But that does not change the fact that your principal statement (that Vivaldi is superior) is agreed upon by an extremely small minority.

You are also uniformed on Handel's borrowings (a common practice in the Baroque Era). Go to the Handel forum and read the papers on his borrowing and how he could transform a nothing idea into a gem. You obviously have tastes of approval and disapproved that are in the minority. Vivaldi is never rated as a top master, while Wagner is. Your knowledge of music and art seems to be minimal at best. I would bet that you have never heard a Handel or Wagner opera in your life. You are a sad person indeed.

Next time don't get in over your head.

Bruh.

Wagner, Tristan and Isolde, Finale.
youtu.be/OAEkTK6aKUM?t=7m50s

>Please go on and tell me about your favorite pieces with 5 views on youtube.
As you wish.

youtube.com/watch?v=v4SPHCX4peA

I don't expect most Jow Forumsacks to appreciate this. The counterpoint is too complex and it doesn't sound enough like movie music.

Sure it is a it pedantic at times, but the elitism can also enforce standards and exclusion of degenerate musics. There is no equality in music, and I think there can be objective reasons to judge one musical art more beautiful than others.

You know who thought Vivaldi was a genius? Bach.

>>but I did in fact major in music.

>a literal art degree

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
*breaths in* AHAHAHAHAHAHAH

Guess what kiddo? Bach is overrated and technically flawed.

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Forgot to say, start at 7:50

Bach isn't even my favorite Baroque composer. Is this what they call "spray and pray"?

Not big on classical music, but thats prolly because I play in my little band...cover band, and we play what we like...

cringe

>cringe

>>>/reddit/

shut up you gigantic faggot

The thing you and all music critics fail to realize is that nobody gives a single shit what a counterpoint is.

People listen to music to enjoy it. If they like what they hear, it is good. Nitpickery is for
A. Arrogant snobs
and
B. Buttmad musical hipsters

I like the 1812 overture, william tell overture, hall of mountain king, beet's 5th and 9th, turkish march, and your mom's hairy asshole.

Perhaps those are too mainstream and loud? Perhaps. But I don't give a flying fuck if you disagree. Have fun kiddo.

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Listen to the Olympic hymn of Richard Strauss (1936) if you want to get an idea of the Ellenic esthetic ideal of NS.
m.youtube.com/watch?v=14VllN5h9xw

Chopin and Liszt are God tier for piano. Bach and Handel are untouchable as well.

I really don't see how Tchaikovsky could be considered a composer who held bourgeoisie ideals musically, it seems rather aristocratic to me. However I really don't know much about classical beyond typical table conversation, and I don't understand music structurally other than what a key / chord / other basic information is.

Literally triggered by a meme picture. I'm embarrassed for you.

Dvorak sounds familiar, any specific pieces you like?

Baroque is hit and miss for me. I'm not fully used to the harpsichord's timbre. Will listen though.

I haven't listened to Mendelssohn or Brahms purposefully - again, any specific pieces to watch out for?

This. Chopin was on another tier of his own.

It would be more accurate to say that Vivaldi had five hundred ideas for a concerto, and that none of them ever was fully worked out. It is only after his wonderful opening bars, his extraordinary beginnings (which taught J. S. Bach so much), that his concertos bog down and begin to resemble each other in the deployment of harmonic cliches-cliches which would not matter (as they do not matter in Handel) if the large harmonic form were coherent and interesting, the cliches given a sense of direction and movement instead of a feeling of jogging on a treadmill.

Vivaldi's operas are coming in for attention now: the same faults and virtues are manifest there. The arias begin strikingly, but continue with little of Handel's energy, Bach's intensity, or Alessandro Scarlatti's subtlety. These deficiencies are less crippling here: an aria is generally much shorter than a concerto movement. In comparing Vivaldi to Bach and Handel, some of his admirers (Marc Pincherle, for example) either refused to face his weaknesses, or else-what is worse-they never understood the strengths of the already established masters

Overrated: Antonio Vivaldi. I'm tired of him. Stravinsky once said that Vivaldi wrote the same concerto 500 times. I disagree. Instead, I think he began 500 concertos and never achieved anything in them. So he kept trying over and over again without ever quite succeeding.

Imagine eating nothing but McDonalds your whole life and arguing about food on the internet.

>if you hate ZOG nigger shit you're a contrarian
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I don't care much for Vivaldi myself. But in terms of musicology, Bach, being the great synthesizer of pan-European music, learned much of his craft from writing out copies of music from Italian, English, French, Dutch music. Some of the Bach organ concertos I have looked at are direct transcriptions of Vivaldi's music. Whether you like Vivaldi of not isn't the issue. Bach himself adored and emulated Vivaldi's composition. I can't speak for Handel, but he is more of an Italian influenced composer than Bach. Handel composed many Italian language operas. So I wouldn't be surprised if he was just as influenced by Vivaldi.
What is Wagner's best opera in your opinion? I heard Parsifal is good.

Rachmaninoff, Yann Tiersen, Ludovico Einaudi, Jeroen van Veen, Yiruma, Nobuyuki Tsujii. Maybe even Kjell Baekkelund and Fabrizio Paterlini aswell.
All piano, non-degenerate music.

Symphony No.9, Op.95 'From the New World' (most widely known)
Slavonic Dances

You forgot the 300 confirmed kills.

Nice.
Here’s moar violin youtube.com/watch?v=bvALX5t5bB4

Handel borrowed more stylistically from (the highly underrated) Corelli than any other Italian composer.

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>Symphony No.9, Op.95 'From the New World' (most widely known)
>Slavonic Dances

It's like I'm really listening to the radio.

My favorite violin concerto. I like this recording better.
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For Brahms I recommend starting with his chamber music. The piano quintet, string quintets especially the 2nd, the cello sonatas, the clarinet ensembles, string sextets. Really there's too much to list.

Yes yes. Now name me a mainstream piece that you genuinely enjoy.

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Very nice. Thanks, user!

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Bach

Bach and Vivaldi are my two favorites. I like Baroque, it has an elegance through minimalism when compared to later classical music.

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Used to play Civ 4 and when I first heard this I was instantly in love. This isn't the same version but it's great.

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Thanks. I like some of the effects of Wagner (the Tristan chord), but if you're bored check out Dr. Jones on Wagner's music.
Kind of starts around around the first few minutes. A history of the revolution and Wagner.
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>Bach is overrated and technically flawed.
opinion discarded

>I like Baroque, it has an elegance through minimalism
kek

Nice, I didn't know Jones did this. Awesome, ty.

The best:

Johann Philipp Krieger - Sonata a 4 in F Major

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>Dvorak
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>I'm not fully used to the harpsichord's timbre.
Plenty of Baroque keyboard music recorded on modern concert grands.
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>Mendelssohn
youtube.com/watch?v=dzuTbePAQfI
>Brahms
youtube.com/watch?v=MLT5K4dcoKQ

>WHATD YOU SAY TO ME MOTHERFUCKER!?? ILL HAVE YOU KNOW...

see

/pol: come for the happenings, stay for the classical music recommendations

>beet's 5th and 9th, turkish march, and your mom's hairy asshole.
>Perhaps those are too mainstream and loud?
this threads been pretty lulzy

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Funny that you bring up Civ 4. I've just discovered this not so well known flemish renaissance composer named Hieronimus Vinders. His music was featured in Civ 4 apparently.

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Lol go back to freshman year music history. The ultra-pedantic fucks like you are what led to Second Viennese School garbage. I advise reading Taruskin's analysis of Tchaikovsky 4 if you want to appreciate how Tchaikovsky played around with sonata allegro form, dipshit.

>ballet didn't get (musically) interesting until Stravinsky
You mean the vast majority of ballet music is boring until Rite of Spring, which effectively killed ballet? Please stop talking about music.

t. Graduated from top 5 conservatory

5.5/10

>I advise reading Taruskin
You Russian-infatuated types always do. Reading an analysis of Bruckner 6 would be a much more stimulating use of a person's time.

>You mean the vast majority of ballet music is boring until Rite of Spring
*Les Noces

Civ 4 has the best musical composition in all of gaming. It was fucking flawless, save for the modern era, which was a bit depressing, but flawless choices for depressing music nontheless.

I tried to improve on it by adding custom tracks but it feels out of place. Top tier mein freund.

I mean, I've heard Bach before, but it never caught my attention in the way the aforementioned composers did. Will add to my list though, thanks for the recs

Thanks, and yes, I guess my issue with baroque is not structural ( in the musical sense) but with the harpsichord. Will give these a shot.

Tbh I've spent time in/mu/ and other than the minor flamewar about Hans Zimmer, this has been better than almost any music discussion on that board.

I remember the first piece. If you played the Renaissance era long enough it would eventually play.

That game was filled with great classical music.

No. 6 in F# minor is the other standout on that playlist, but the whole thing is worth hearing.

/mu/ is trash by the way. I used to post there as CLT.

Brahms piano concertos.