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Before I married my wife two years ago, she had huge amounts of debt to her name, including large amounts of student loans. After we married, we diligently almost paid everything off, helped by my salary being three times that of my wife.

She recently asked for a divorce, saying she was taking the house and my retirement. My question is: Does the fact we paid off her debts she held before get spread evenly? Had I not paid all of her debts our net worth would be near the same with a better outcome for me.

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>marrying someone dumb enough to pay for money

Time to lawyer up.
In some states, if you paid for her education, you get a share of her future income.

>Wife divorcing you as soon as you helped take care of nearly all of her debt

I hope you're smart enough to now see you've been used and she probably never cared about you.

Yikes

Another millennial paying off his newlywed wife's student loans. I know three dudes who are doing this. One of them's wife cheated on him when they were dating, and he still married her, and is still paying off her debts. What a racket these cunts have.

Gather the receipts and hire the best Jew you can afford

>implying you deserve to own a house and a 401(k) when you've demonstrated failure at owning a woman

>woman stealing half your wealth and leaving you nothing
sure would be sad if some accident happened

How to avoid gold diggers in one easy step:
1. Ask for prenup.
If they get angry about it then they were a gold digger and you dodged a bullet, if they are fine with the prenup then you can marry them even without one.

womp womp

The frustrating part is she doesn't even think of it this way. Women execute these cold as fuck strategies as easily as breathing and sleeping. She was in love and then wasn't, that's it.

>If they get angry about
Or they will just assume you intend to leave them when they get old

Ok, you need to take everything and horde it, then go on a fake spiral as quick as you can.

1. Start going to casinos and bars, withdrawl 1000s of dollars each time. Sit and have a tonic water for a few hours then pocket the money and claim it was drunk / gambled.
2. Max out loans on house w/e drain the credit cards, get a few receipts of you buying a liter of hard liquor from the store for a few days in a row.
3. Start not showing up to work, and make bull shit excuses, show up unclean and looking hung over.
4. Try to get fired or laid off due to suddenly becoming a super shitty and unreliable employee.
5. Start attending AA and Gamblers anonymous.
6. Argue to the judge that the divorce caused you to spiral and become a gambling alcoholic.

You might get off with her taking half the debts, which you have the cash already stored away, and if you play it right she might have to pay alimony (especially if you paid off any student loans of hers).

pretty smart.

Yeah, the women are emotional meme is bullshit. They cannot love unconditionally. Even the love for their own children is from instinct and not choice.

cucked

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He got married. Hehehe... Thanks annon. I needed a laugh today.

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Depends completely on the state you're in.

But no matter where you are, get a good lawyer now. Be willing to spend some money on one, it's shitty but in the end it'll be much more expensive to get a bad one.

Damn. This is pretty good. Gonna keep this under my hat for the next roastie I marry.

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This is not how divorces work. If she gets a half-decent lawyer you will not only be liable for all money "gambled" away, but it will also fuck you in the overall proceedings because it's going to be obvious this was done in bad faith.

You poor bastard. Find the priciest kike lawyer you can afford, then follow Nordbro's advice.

This is some legit advice

Hypergamy doesn’t care how great a Father you are to your kids.

Hypergamy doesn’t care how you rearranged your college majors and career choice in life to better accommodate her.

Hypergamy doesn’t care how inspired or fulfilled you feel as a stay-at-home Dad.

Hypergamy doesn’t care that you moved across 4 states to be closer to your LDR.

Hypergamy doesn’t care how ‘supportive’ you’ve always been of her decisions or if you identify as a ‘male feminist’.

Hypergamy doesn’t care about the sincerity of your religious convictions or aspirations of high purpose.

Hypergamy doesn’t care about those words you said at your wedding.

Hypergamy doesn’t care about how you funded her going back to college to find a more rewarding career.

Hypergamy doesn’t care how great a guy you are for adopting the children she had with other men.

Hypergamy doesn’t care about your divine and forgiving nature in excusing her “youthful indiscretions.”

>>>>>Hypergamy doesn’t care about your magnanimity in assuming responsibility for her student loans, and credit card debt after you’re married.

Hypergamy doesn’t care if “he was your best friend.”

Hypergamy doesn’t care about the coffee in bed you bring her or how great a cook you are.

Hypergamy doesn’t care about all those chick flicks you sat through with her and claimed to like.

Hypergamy doesn’t care about how well you do your part of the household chores.

Hypergamy doesn’t care about how much her family or friends like you.

Hypergamy doesn’t care if you think you’re a “Good” guy or about how convincing your argument is for your sense of honor.

Hypergamy doesn’t care whether the children are biologically yours or not.

Hypergamy doesn’t care if “she was drunk, he was cute, and one thing led to another,..”

Hypergamy doesn’t care if you “never saw it coming.”

therationalmale.com/2012/05/16/hypergamy-doesnt-care/

I found yours

>well off man marries debt-laden woman who jumps ship once the rest of her life has been paid for

big surprise
the entirety of money circulation in the west is designed to funnel money into the hands of women and minorities, because they're far less fiscally responsible, and fiat currency only has value when it's exchanging hands. This is also why white men are constantly shamed by the media, it's meant to disempower and disenfranchise them to better move more and more money and financial assets to people who aren't frugal.

You really gotta sell it for it to work. My friend did pretty much exactly this and pocketed pretty much everything after the debts were paid. He sat on the cash for like 5 years before he started using it and paying off the debt from the house they had to sell. He used the cash for every expense and his paycheck to pay off bills and such.

You need her to be screaming that you are a raging alcoholic in court, then have friends say that you rarely drank until the divorce. You have to show up to her parents house after not shaving or showering for several days with a half a bottle of liquor in your pocket and a little drunk bitching at her. Preferably with a police report, but don't commit any crimes or get arrested.

At the end of it the judge just had them sell everything and give her what they made, which with the debts amounted to practically nothing, and go their separate ways. He also had to attend AA for a year, but he was never a drunk so he just hung out and drank coffee talking about how he has stayed away from alcohol ever since the divorce.

therationalmale.com/the-best-of-rational-male-year-one/

You're going to need Best of Year One or the first book as you recover. Rollo is about as neutral/descriptive as you an get, sort of above the world of mra/mgtow/pua and really into the nuts and bolts of the male experience

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Not if it is because of "depression" or a mental state brought on by the divorce. You will still be on the hook for the debt, but since you already have the cash just repay it a few years later.

...

You're fucked.
Now go forth and WARN the next generation about this. That's all you can do. Oh you can also just take the money and run or something.

>They cannot love unconditionally.
because they are too emotional to do so
every bit of a woman's life revolves around her emotions and the perceived emotions of those around her
unconditional love is deeper than the surface emotions that control women
a woman is not capable of unconditional love because her emotional state is constantly in flux
a woman will walk out on a 20 year marriage over hurt feelings or because Chad makes her "feel special" or because she jealous of her best frenemy's divorced life
only a woman who was molded by her husband from a young age is capable of feeling a deeper emotional connection to her husband...and even then, that emotion is not unconditional love...
only men are capable of loving that deeply

I have never seen a women leave or cheat on a devoted husband

Owning a woman is like owning a home: you can pay it all off, but stop paying those taxes to the government and you lose it anyway. Government being the key term here: that's why you can't "own" the woman. The deck is all in her favor to do whatever she wants.
The OP deserves to learn the hard way that marriage is exactly this kind of raw deal.

I've seen that story on Tom Leykis' show. Sue her for scam and fraud

This, minus the last part. Just got engaged. We discussed how feminism has ruined traditional families and encourages divorce and she agreed and OFFERED the prenup. Better to have it and not need it so still getting it.

It helps that I'm dirt poor and was unemployed living out of a spare room in a trailer when we started dating and am only now a college student, she didn't want me for money I didn't have to begin with. Being Chad helps.

I have seen this kind of "scuttle the ship" move before and it has some good results. Basically it's a scorched earth policy. At this point, there is no reason to keep paying the bills for shit you are going to lose in court anyway.

Women are parasites. Tell me when they built any civilization that still stands today... This is simply hypergamy and she's going to monkey-branch OP

>you intend to leave them when they get old
>not dating barely legal girls well into your 30's who have no fear of aging out of your love
Why even live?

Dating is degenerate
Stop being a whoremonger

>How to avoid gold diggers in one easy step
MGTOW

>MGTOW
If you give up why not just kill yourself
Its much faster

>saying she was taking the house and my retirement

I don't get how women could say that with a straight face. You have to lack having any morals.

This looks as a conspiracy theory, but I have to come to a similar conclusion. Through taxes, we are funding the unreasonable spending of welfare recipients.

Dude you just gotta cut your losses. Sooner you do it sooner you can rebuild. I've done it twice, never again.

It is not about that, low IQ Mutt. Your own well being and sovereignty first

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Note to all men who would even consider getting married in the Current Fucking Year:

Gold is the best protection against gold diggers. Problem is that you have to start buying it years before you are even married. Pay cash if you can. Coin dealers in large cities usually have reasonable prices. Also don't keep it in your house or in a bank safe deposit box. You could be locked out of either one on a moments' notice.

Huge bonus points for screwing the Jew too.

you got shafted bro

Also, follow up. There is no way that you are not going to lose between 50-75% of what you have. Your goal should be to obtain as much liquid assets as possible that you can hide and burn the whole thing to the fucking ground so she gets nothing.

Stay away from high value items like gold or anything that could raise an issue with the IRS a few years down the road if you try to sell. Stick to cash.

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LMAO Just kill the bitch.

Crazy as it sounds. This is some pretty solid advice. The courts are anti male you can never win unless you can prove she is total garbage which is hard to do and means she would literally have to be shooting up and fucking random men in front of the kids. Even a druggie with an arrest record will still get the kids and help herself to your money with the courts help. Courts are mot for men.

Here read the whole thing lmfao

marketwatch.com/story/i-paid-off-my-wifes-student-loans-then-she-filed-for-divorce-after-two-years-of-marriage-2018-04-21

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>only men are capable of loving that deeply
Phase one is complete, now all that's left is for you to fuck a few men because "they know what a man likes" champ.

Two years?
She just married you for gibs.

Brilliant

your fuckin dun kid

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>marrying a woman in debt
Joke's on you.

>muh precious shekels
What are you going to do with this extra money?

>They cannot love unconditionally.

Unconditional love doesn't exist. Not even between parents and children.

>whoremonger
You realize this means "person who sells whores" right? It's only degenerate when women play the field. I don't even have a very high number, engaged to number 11 right now and considering I have damn good genes that's crazy low, mostly because I have high standards.

This.
t. Ex-wife acted like we had a spiritual connection that spanned the ages, then as soon as she wasn't getting anything from me financially anymore, the attraction dissipated and now she acts like I never meant anything to her.

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>The deck is all in her favor to do whatever she wants.

LOL, women don't have agency.

I'm a married woman, though

>t. beta bux

FTFY. When you allow your relationship with a woman to be defined by what you do for her, you shouldn't be surprised that it sours when you stop doing it.

HAHAHAHAHAA. Pay attention you underage and twenty year old faggots. You do not get married in this climate in the West in this day and age. I don't give a rats ass if she waddles to church every Sunday, 95% of all women base their relationships on LOVE, a finite experience that needs maintenance and coddling. The only women I would even consider marrying are Catholic virgins, of which most Catholic women are not.

DO NOT END UP LIKE THIS RETARD WHO MARRIED INSTEAD OF JUST BEING IN A RELATIONSHIP.

Not according to the bible

Well your personal experience must mean it can't happen.

Fucking idiot.

>Ex-wife acted like we had a spiritual connection that spanned the ages
You married crazy. Fucked a girl once who watched Cloud Atlas and unironically changed her worldview around the concept, she kept saying our souls were bound and shit. Fucked her for a month before she started having mood swings and saying creepy shit over the phone.

Learned a hard lesson. Fucked her an hour after meeting her (she claimed to be a lesbian, was only hanging around her because of a bad fight with my now-ex) and she told me she loved me, told me I reminded her of her dead father (yikes) and wrote me long poems and notes within a day of meeting her.

So, so very hot. So not worth it. The "I can feel your heartbeat, no matter where we both are" shit 2 weeks sealed it but the sex was too good. It took the random gifts in my mailbox coupled with the fact I never told her where I lived to drive home the run away instinct.

Tl;dr: "soul bond" shit always denotes crazy.

Already a tranny eh? Damn user you got it bad.

Not give it to a heartless woman, for one.

>When you allow your relationship with a woman to be defined by what you do for her
What are you even talking about? I won't deny I learned a lot from it, but I never allowed the relationship to be defined that way. I always thought of us as equal partners.

nope, just doing my best to fulfill my role in society...even if society and 100 years of feminism is trying to tell me I'm wrong...

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>I won't deny I learned a lot from it, but I never allowed the relationship to be defined that way.

Apparently you did

>I always thought of us as equal partners.

Thanks for that user, I've never laughed so hard in my life.

>You have to do this to even get treated even close to fairly in divorce court.
>There are still tradcucks to demand men marry.

Define, "Devoted husband."

It's not a conspiracy because they do this shit in the open.

And now you know what it means to be a woman.

>I always thought of us as equal partners.
that's your mistake
women are not men and are not capable of being a man's equal
women know this, hence the largess of government gibs they voted for themselves...paid for by the men..

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>not having a rich girlfriend who pays for everything

being a leech is bliss.

So much this. Seriously women have their own asses first and foremost in mind with everything they do, they don't even think about it they just do it. When men get carried away with emotion their still looking out for number one.

>being married
wew
Told my gf very early on that I'm never getting married.
Fuck that.

they say men put sex above everything else, but the moment a woman's offered a dick she likes she'll be ready to abandon children

Thats not really true. Before all the welfare, alimony, state interventions, womens hypergamy actually meant a better provider.

Not exactly. Regardless, the fact remains that the supposedly unbreakable bond between us suddenly became nothing whatsoever once the sexual attraction waned somewhat. For no good reason, she even says she doesn't "respect" me anymore. It's as if it was all a sham to draw me in. Yeah, she's kind of emotionally screwed up (has/had a crazy narcissistic single mother), but I think there's still another element that is just female nature. They don't have integrity.

>Apparently you did
Explain.

>respect
lowkey admitting that you let her use you and didn't stand up to her.

Knock her up. secure the existence before you fail us

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Accuse her of abuse and file a restraining order.

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But what if the judge doesn't give a fuck about your condition? He could just decide that you made everything up (without knowing your plan) and still have you pay her alimony.

You literally allowed yourself to be her beta bux. Keep finances seperate when entering a marriage or any other form of long term relationship. This should be common knowledge nowadays.

um, no sweetie. its 2018. and mr. judge has decided it is null and void because prenups are totally sexist

Gynocentrism

To an extent, yes, that's how *she* sees it. She is projecting her guilty feelings onto me. But frankly, I never let her use me. Almost half the time we were together, she was working and I was not. That's the whole reason the attraction waned.

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>Regardless, the fact remains that the supposedly unbreakable bond between us suddenly became nothing whatsoever once the sexual attraction waned somewhat.

Precisely what do you think was the basis of this "supposedly unbreakable bond"?

>For no good reason, she even says she doesn't "respect" me anymore.

Sounds like she has a perfectly good reason. What have you done to make her respect you? You spent the entirety of your relationship giving her free shit, and then you stopped and expected nothing to change.

>It's as if it was all a sham to draw me in.

Women can't even decide on a dress to wear, or what restaurant to go to on a date. What makes you think that she's willing to play a years-long game to spend time with you and have sex with you just for an indefinite reward?

>I think there's still another element that is just female nature. They don't have integrity.

Well no shit, Sherlock. Sorry you had to learn this the hard way.

The question now is whether you're going to apply what you learned or if you're going to turn into a MGTOW fag like the rest of these idiots.

>2 posts by this id
>Copy pasta from some shitty normie blog

Why is pol so easily baited?

Wrong category. Not Jow Forums

Thing belongs to the Jow Forums section

Did you pay attention to any RED FLAGS before taking the plunge? Or did you let your dick do all the thinking?

Never be a whore's beta buck.

I chose more carefully than you did. My wife would never leave me, would never want to hurt me. She is a white nationalist like me. She saved herself for me and I for her. Real love still exists, but you aren't ENTITLED to it. You have to work hard to find it. You have to make yourself worthy and you have to DELAY GRATIFICATION while you seek it.

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I am talking about in the US, depression and alcoholism are considered medical issues.

Also it is super fucking easy to get diagnosed as depressed in the US. I went to a doctors office because I stepped on a nail and the follow up physical they gave me this questionnaire. Stupid questions like "Do you sometimes not feel joy in things that used to give you pleasure"

The doctor wanted to put me on anti-depressants because this questionnaire labeled me as extremely depressed on the bases that I wasn't ecstatic all the time.

because its fun

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