If spanking works, why are communities that utilize it (blacks, poor rural people like Appalachians, etc...

Someone who is a decent parent will use the means to correct certain behavior, while somone who is not will use it out of spite and rage regardless of the end result.

Genetic you retard. A good black father (yes I have met these dudes, they married white women,) understand that their black kids (all kids too, though perhaps less often,) require fear of physical discipline to be enacted when they fuck up egregiously, or else they will become entirely insolent.

And yes, the kids were the ones who told me this is the proper practice. They are very happy their father smacked the shit out of them the 1-3 times it was actually required.

All kids may require physical discipline. Jewkins are taking it away, and otherwise legally crippling the family unit with CPS.

>getting bullied by a child
youtu.be/54CeL2z9yrs

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I was spanked and now I'm a 30 year old boomer that owns a house outright

> Negative reinforcement doesn't work
Billions of years of animals behavior BTFO !

clearly these people have never dealt with a unruly child who is no scared of beta 'time outs'

>30 year old boomer
wut

>CONSERVIKEKS DONT WANT TO PAY THEIR MONEY TO FEED SHEEBOONS MENTHOLS ALL DAY WHAT MORONS

Spanking is different from beating the shit out of a child.
Since children are unable to rationally understand the reason for not letting them doing something you must link the act of doing that thing to a painful consequence, he will understand it later.

That picture implies that reason will work if the person is old enough to understand reason. That's silly. If an adult man has a knife and is trying to kill you, will you be able to "use reason" successfully no matter what? Of course not. Being potentially capable of reason does not equate to being reasonable.

It's this summer's forced meme.
Just roll with it and wait for it to end.

There is a time in every child's life when they are already old enough try power games with you but still not old enough to understand reason.
>that's when you spank them

if beatings are unwarranted the kid grows up not giving a fuck because they're gonna get beat anyway. same with verbal abuse.
if there is no right way to live according to their
controllers nothing matters.

This year's forced meme, sponsored by Cambridge Analytics.

>he doesnt know a 30 year old boomer when he sees one

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I learned something when my parents hit me. Its just that instead of learning
>dont be a little shit
I learned
>avoid your parents as much as possible

So you're a retard.
Thanks for clarifying what happens when parents get bullied by children.

Wouldn't that be a 45-year-old Zillennial?

Because there's a difference between discipline and abuse.

the reason why there's so much violence in the black community is because of broken households, black women being narcissistic sociopaths, nigger culture and victimhood culture, spanking has nothing to do with it.

If you look at cultures like Chinese culture and Indian culture where spanking your child is the norm, do you see them committing crimes like the blacks ?, nope.

Spanking is a necessity, and if you don't spank your kids they might not become violent but they may grow up damaged, why do you think most women are roasties, thieves, whores and pieces of trash ? its because dads are too afraid to properly discipline them and restrict them, but at the same time kids in general that don't receive spankings become fags, leftists, Neets, moral relativists, degenerates etc.

Thou shalt beat him with the rod, and shalt deliver his soul from hell. Proverbs 23:14

that's an ancient meme, just look at the guy's hair.

fpbp, /thread

Moderation is key here. Pretty sure lots of fucked up kids became that way due to their dads beating them up for no reason.

Sure, spanking them after they did something they shouldn't is fine but doing that because you're bored or something isn't.

People do not always respond to reason.The use of force is required when they do not respond to reason.

Assuming the parent is using reason and being fair if a child still refuses to comply force must be used.It provides a valuable lesson in how society functions am shows them they must act reasonably or there will be further consequences.

I think the problem arises when unreasonable parents spank their child. There is no lesson for the child to learn except he Will be unjustly beaten even of he's in the right and the parent is acting unreasomably.As a parent you must never reduce yourself to the level of the child and act in an illogical or emotional way.

It's not an everyday occurrence, but if they steal they get a spank, if they hurt an animal or another child they get a couple of spanks. And a couple hours later you have to explain the whole situation to them. I don't have children yet but that's what I'm going with, hopefully he won't be a serial killer when he grows up

I think people conflate a tap on the bum as a light form of discipline with darker things.
Slamming your kids against the wall, choking out your wife for fucking up dinner and throwing empty beer bottles at your family as they tremble in fear is not discipline.

I spank my kid after he hurts himself- touches the stove, opens the door with the car moving, hot water...stuff like that. My kid is 8 and he's had 5 spankings, 2 of which were his hand. My kid is growing up awesome.

After the spanking do they go to their room or something? Or do you explain why you did right after?

Spanking damn well works when strategically used. Spank when they are young and dont understand to build innate fear into youth to fall in line. When they are older you switch to stroking their ego in different ways to manipulate them as physical punishment isnt as effective when their thinking processes have evolved. Then again an ancap cuck wouldn't understand the importance of law and order, justice through different means. Great civilizations and empires are built and last through these things, they eventually collapse until a stronger leader takes reigns of a new empire.

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Because of the fact that these familes have replaced the father with the welfare state. You still have a lot to learn, my son.

Kids take a huge IQ and emotional development hit if you whack them. Especially if they are really young. Whacking your kids is wrong. God will judge you harshly for it.

"He told me he had the same issue with a peach tree and was talking to an old farmer about it. The farmer said use a 2X4, on the wide side, and beat the tree about 20 times all the way around the base of the truck. Hit it hard but not hard enough to break the truck. Apparently the tree thinks it dying and goes into survival mode by shocking itself, and in turn it will blossom and produce fruit from here forward. He says you only need to do it once in it’s lifetime and the tree will start to produce."

creativecaincabin.com/2016/03/how-to-get-fruit-trees-to-blossom-produce-fruit/

>poor rural people like Appalachians
This meme needs to die, poor rural white areas have nowhere near the amount of crime as black neighborhoods.

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Spanking is a last resort, the problem is that those people that you mention, abuse spanking as a solution instead of trying to be reasonable with their children, I know because a lot of people that I grew up with had to endure that bullshit.

>oh, isn't it cute. It's a single person thinking that children follow reason thread.

youtube.com/watch?v=qxNX6ozCty8

What a stupid graph. Understanding logic is on a spectrum, it's not that either you get it or you don't.
They can easily understand that you're spanking them because they're doing x, while not understanding why doing x is wrong.
Just telling them not to do it *might* not be enough because why should you care what you think or say? Because you're an authority figure, even kids understand that.
Whether spanking is a good thing is independent of the fact that this is a stupid graph and the OP is a faggot

More children, not acting like the rational adults OP thinks they are:

youtube.com/watch?v=bexSD2uD3Ms

>reason and consequence arent the same

You're a dumb faggot, a pussy, and a shitty parent if you honestly believe OPs pic.

I was spanked when I was a kid. Wanna know why? Cause I would misbehave. My parents would warn me first, give me a chance to correct my behavior, and if I continued the misbehavior, they'd swat my ass.

Kids need structure. Kids need to respect their parents word. And yes, kids need to fear their parents' wrath. Children are little shitfucks and they need discipline and structure.

Seriously, I've met so many people who think a spanking is horrid child abuse. And guess what? All those people's kids are disobedient little shitheads that nobody wants to be around.

Fuck, Americans are so retarded. No wonder the empire didn't last 100 years.

> Child screaming at grocery story
> I want cannnnddddyyyy!
> mom: now darling you can't have candy.You are still missing two affirmation stickers on your "i'm a good boy chart"
> cannnnndddddyyyyy!!!
> now dear, we talked about this, you know that in order to get a reward you have to do your chores. You'll have candy by tomorrow as soon as you clean up your toys and stop beating the dog with the brush
> cannnnnddddddyyyyy!!! I hate you I hate you I hate you
> (mom to crowd of other mothers starting to gather)
> Oh he's never like this, we have a chart where he can earn his rewards. He's a very enlightened gifted child.
> CAAAANNNNNDDDDDYYYYY!!!!!!!
> tell you what darling, you can have candy JUST THIS ONE TIME. But next time you have to have the affirmation stickers.
> I wuv you mommy

Later on the internet....
> how dare you spank your child. Enlightened parents know how to motivate their kids, how to teach them the important lessons they will need to be productive adults.

Oh look, someone who thinks this isn't taught to the children by the shitty parents.

If you spanked your child in the store that same woman would probably call the cops

It doesn't. If you need to use violence to control your child, you've failed as a parent.

Appalachia is one of the whitest regions in America

It's not about the spanking, it's about the threat of a spanking. And had the parents been raising their kids right from day 1, you wouldn't have this shit going on in the supermarket

this

This, unironically. Spanking won't fix their low IQ, but neither will not spanking fix them.

Molymeme is right though, whites and asians shouldn't spank their kids.

You sound like a nigger, OP. You should probably kill yourself, but that's not going to happen what with you being a snowflake nigger jew.

Stupid bitch is playing games with the kid. It's a treadmill of running the kid's emotions up and down. No wonder she throws a temper tantrum.
Feminist mother's don't know how to calmly deal with a child. They even enjoy the drama. Literally has nothing to do with spanking. Spanking is a last resort for a serious fuck up. 99% of kids would never need to be spanked with a father who understands how true authority works.

Unironically this

>poor rural people like Appalachians
Lowest crime rates in america (before meth)

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Why would you need to hurt a kid twice? That's just stupid.
If the kid gets hurt you did something wrong to begin with. Spank yourself.

They were doing it wrong. It should be a last resort for one, and after the child is compliant it should then be reinforced by loving attention.
People get this wrong on both sides, you shouldn't hit or spank a child because they are annoying you, you do it when they knowingly do something wrong or resist less forceful means of discipline.

This. The occasional swat on the behind is just fine if the child is being an absolute irredeemable shit and warnings / talking doesn't work. The problem is that some parents use violence (or the threat of violence) as the only method of discipline when it should be a last resort.

I can count on one hand the number of times I was spanked as a child. When it did occur my little brain went "holy shit that doesn't happen very much, I must be being really bad right now" and I stopped whatever it was that warranted the swat.

Studies show the punishment doesn't really matter, as long as it's not excessive or weak. It's the lack of consistency that fucks the kid up.

>flag
>no wonder your not lasting
lmfao stfu chink colony your doomed wouldn't be talking big. But then again thats what happens when you dont spank your kids but instead take them to tranny festivals.

You also set yourself up for problems later on as well. Spanking only works if the kid is small enough to not fight back. What happens once the kid hits 13 or so and can't be held down anymore?

Whites swat their kid's ass and niggers beat their kids and scream.

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>parents
>raising their child on Locke
>don't violate their rights
>cast magical "Reason" spell to change behavior
>why won't they behave?
Reason doesn't exist faggots

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>tell your child hitting is wrong
>by hitting them
> ???

Authority is a mystical force. Behavior must come first, then its verbal rationalization.

>son I hit you because hitting is wrong
>then why did you hit me
>because hitting is wrong

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>Blacks
>Reason

Every kid needs a smack every once in awhile. When I fucked up I got the belt or spanked. I don't see the problem

You're a fucking idiot faggot. Of course you should spank your kid and they should also bring back corporal punishment to schools. You can't make a false equivalency argument sound good to me faggot. Fuck off pussy.

This happened to me. Good thing I was mature and just kept throwing my dad off me and being like "im not going to fight you dad" over and over till he left sad

>t. Canadian faggot who's dad should have hit him more. Alot more

When whites spank their children they tell the childr why they are spanking them, spank them on the behind a few times with a paddle or their hand, give them a hug and tell them they spank them because they love them and that's that.
For blacks:
>blackwomenbeatingthehelloutofherkidforvommitting.webm

The algorithm goes:
If leftists proselitize that something is wrong, then it is proof that it is correct and that it must be done.

MAH DADDY HIT ME AND I TURNED OUT GOOD

a lot*

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The kid will likely rebel once they realize

This. You don't spank often, is last resort.

It's not whether spanking works, it's whether excessive spanking harms more than no spanking.
People who have lower mental capabilities are more quick to resort to violence. Which in turn means, people with stupid parents are statistically more likely to be slapped.
Also, people with lower mental power tend to earn less. This correlates the slapping to economic success of a child.
There are alternatives to physical punishment, but since misbehaviour needs to be punished to correct it, then the question becomes, is it better to tell people not to do it, or to let certain groups to beat the crap out of their children.
Prove me wrong.

Yeah. Most people in Appalachia just want to be left alone.

>People who have lower mental capabilities are more quick to resort to violence.
Yes, children are wise and can be reasoned with. Clearly, you know a lot about raising them.

the members of those communities that make it out are more successful and hardier stronger people than you undisciplined neets who lacked coporal punishment growing up