LIBERTARIANISM CAN NEVER WORK, IT IS AN IMAGINARY UTOPIA

All conservative ideologies are early state libertarianism, basically any form of capitalism is an early stage libertarianism. In the same way that socialism=communism. So we could say that the real political compass is just communism and libertarianism.

>White Nationalism does actually work.
>t. Early United States.
fixed that.

Also this.

Ironically both are materialistic ideologies. Now this is a horseshoe.

Socialism admits there is a need for government. For all its faults it is at least grounded in reality. Libertarianism can't even work on paper, which is why you get pic related.

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>we are socialist
>also fuck the white working class they are all nazis
Chapo is full on retarded

Like the answer to why things are filthy in America isn't sitting in the lower right corner of that picture.

Was pointing out the irony of how socialism has been equated to literal communism for years, literally take the word communism and use socialism and as an example Wikipedia says that examples of socialist regimes are Cuba and NK, and classifies social democracies as moderated right wing regimes. As if anything as close as leaning a bit left is already communism.

>libertarianism
>socialism
don't eat the kosher sandwich

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Change it from communism v capitalism to no niggers v niggers

Well, depends on what is meant by libertarianism and socialism. However there have been multiple societies called socialist, yet no societies called libertarian so that statement taken at face value is true.

No, the US was libertarian early on. Speaking of White Nationalism, how'd the 1940s go, Brautwurst?

woke

third way is gay

Aren't these faggots just some guys who ripped off the Daily Shoah but for leftists?

go back to 2008 liberfaggot

There are actually proportionally less blacks today than there were for centuries.

Yes

I think that’s the chapo trap house podcast. It would be entertaining to see striker debate them, unfortunately strikers debate against other lefties was quite disapointing.

The only episode I listened to had something like
>lol white working class people are so dumb lol
>they should be socialists because it’s in their best interest
And didn’t consider at all managerial chains or the strive to get yourself a promotion as a working class person. Do they literally think that the worst workers should rise up so that the dumbest and laziest are on an equal paying field as the smarter and more determined?

Is this show really the lighthouse of the left? I mean, the guys seem rather smart, they just use their brains for some dumb reasons

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This.

Also this.

Well, Marx believed that Socialism (state) will lead to communism (anarchy). But I will give you that Cuckservatism Inc is retarded and intellectually underdeveloped just like liberalism.

The 3rd Reich wasn't a White Nationalist state. The US however was founded as such from the get go.

Yes, essentially.

Also this. I'm still amazed there are still lobert around.

Lolberts are already left

Yes, I don’t want to give them any more coverage, but other people have mentioned their name. I just can’t understand how these 3 pandering socialists make collectively like 400K a year, and still consider themselves voices of socialism when they literally capitalize on their political beliefs

Maybe I’m just dumb and can’t see nuance

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third way, aka socialism, but instead of "the working class" we talk about "the nation" and instead the bourgeoisie we blame Jews or bankers for everything.

And ironically they get replaced by Mexicans as we speak.

>these 3 pandering socialists make collectively like 400K a year
wat

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This actually reminds me of a funny anecdote. If you take a look at early IWW demonstrations they hold signs reading: ”be american, buy american”, today those sign holders would be called nazis.

Libertarianism isn't against government you tard, it's for minimal government focused mostly on a few select public goods (roads, defense, etc.).

>jew in the middle

Capitalism is the reason they're still here

That would be minarchism. Libertarianism quite often just means ancapism.

>libertarianism will never work because you have no law to portect your right of owner who
>anarco-comunism will work becuase it is fun by mob rule
>mob rule is get my not a government
summery of a convo I had with a commie

Capitalism is also the reason they came to the US in the first place. Funnily enough I think in that case blacks were classified as capital and not proletariat per marxist analysis, I wonder what ”seize the means of production” means in that case.

run*
god I hate having to phone post

Are you shocked or did I just speak in a dumb way? If shocked: they make like 300K from patreon alone

They are spewing pure ideology that's why it's intellectually inconsistent. They may be smart lads but they are not smart enough to do anything but regurgitate leftist ideology with no independent thoughts.

this is some top shit

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Libertarianism defines how a government gains legitimacy and acts appropriately, therefore it defines that a "good government" exists and should be aimed for.

Read some libertarian material or just stop pretending to understand it. Ancap is a separate ideology.

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I was wrong. The show makes over 1Million a year

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how the fuck is that possible?

Patron money

>implying a country with complete libertarianism would be an utopia

I don't even care

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Holy fuck

Old leftists were ok because they were nationalist as fuck. Modern leftists are all internationalist who don't understand that open boarders + a massive welfare state means all of the worlds shitiest people will come mooch off you until you run out of money.

2 dumb goys and a kike

See the addendum. They each make that much, the show makes this , and how much do you think is “redistributed”

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none, socialist are greed as fuck when it is they money

Honestly I might just argue socialism to get those beta bux.

Honestly talking milk toast republicanism probably pays atleast equally well. How much does crowder make?

I'm curious to know what the Daily Shoah guys are making now. I've always just assumed they were scraping by, by the skin of their teeth

I think mike and sven combined made almost a million in the bitcoin boom

ah well, that's good

>Implying libertarians are anarchists.

If you have to strawman to make a point, then you don't really have one.

>communism has a surplus of artists and a deficit of farmers because art is easy and farming is hard
>has beautiful art
>everyone starves

They have connections to wall street

it is the very least a brother to true anatco-capitalism

Third position doesn't exist.
There is no state controlling anything and there is state controlling absolutely everything. Every single ideology to ever exist falls between the two.

This third position nonsense is just recycled ''centrism'' in the sense that all you're doing is inflating your ego while going ''lol both sides suck!''
If you had to actually write down what your meme ideology was and you had to present it to people, all it would boil down to is that you are going to regulate things you don't like while leaving alone things you do like. It's always going to be a mixed market.

A more accurate description would be : Socialism, but racially aware socialism.

For the same reason that socialism works really well with family/extended family, socialism breaks down when it involves different peoples. You inevitably have groups that soak up resources and use them to breed out of control (making more parasites) versus the groups that try to avoid using resources, but provides them to people down on their luck.

There is a reason that socialism never took root in Africa, not without ENORMOUS 3rd party infusions of resources to sustain it. It only works if on average, your people are able to produce more than a single person's worth of resources.

>As soon as someone says they're a socialist, their opinion on adult matters is automatically invalidated.

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The US used tariffs and federal assumption of state debt.

>muh niggers

Stop dancing around. Criticize it for what it is, not what you can relate it to.

Why don't you live in Venezuela? Go live in the society you're trying to build then get back to us.

That's not why the USSR had to import food.

>the state is needed for the revolution

>muh Venezuela
Every damn time.

>left vs right
>fighting over how you will be ruled over by man
idiots.

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>wants socialism
>won't live in a country with socialism

This is why no one listens to you.

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right.
that is because they decided to assume full control of resource distribution, took all of the grain that the farmers were going to use to replant, and then everyone starved.
i decided to go with a simpler version to keep my greentext as brief as possible.

Read the post
>what the fuck
Check the flag
>oh, it’s just a retard

And fascists are authoritarian centrists and therefor not right wing.

how will you not be ruled by man?

>not living in somalia

What does that have to do with socialism?

>ultra nationalism
>not right wing
Lolberts can't be scaled right because their lack of hierarchy and focus on individualism over nationalism.

>not living in northern syria*

>ruled by man
What does that even mean? I want to have some rules, and I want to certain things covered by a state, and we’re not capable of having a robot supply either of those at the time. So yeah, that and literally any system requires rules set by “men”

They confiscated food from disobedient farmers in the 1930s and sold it to pay for industrial equipment. After that they didn't confiscate seeds. They just neglected farmers in favor of heavy industry, so farm wages were low and conditions were bad.

in your libertarian society, how will you enforce the laws? with the state of mind of 'authority' enFORCEing the laws.

you know what i love about ancaps?
they hate the state, but fail to explain how they could possibly retain their rights should they ever get their dream and overthrow their state.
the state, which is an entity which pools resources to project force and concentrated violence, will always roflstomp stateless unorganized ancaps.
always.
which is why the founding fathers decided to make a barebones state to fight off the british.
all of the founding fathers were ancaps that hated the state even more than you, but they recognized the necessity of a state to preserve their liberty, so long as other states exist.
this is why the US constitution is written the way that it is; it's basically the arch-linux bare bones install of governments.
unfortunately, their descendants and successors forgot that the ONLY reason for the US government to exist was to preserve the liberty of Americans from other states, and now we have this clusterfuck.
Democrats are faggot statists that inherited the most beautiful bare-bones government with restricted powers ever concieved by man, and fucked it all up to make the state stronger.
we can never go back to anarchy, user. as soon as the roman legion demonstrated the effectiveness of an organized state over anarchic hill tribes it was all over.
the best we can do is form a state that is as limited in power as possible and try to keep it that way as our forefathers did.

Why would I want to live in Muslim theocracies?

What you mean to say, is that in times of famine, the people actually MAKING the food were the first to starve, because they were taking the food from the farmers to distribute. Somehow, in the mind of a commie, it's better to feed your factory worker than the people actually doing the farming.

I don't even understand how a society based on collective ownership could be considered voluntary

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Democratic_Federation_of_Northern_Syria

any system of government is slavery. the 'government' claims ownership of people and also claims to have more rights than the people, and acts as god by granting people rights to do things. it also punishes people even if the person does not personally consent to said 'laws'. the citizen is owned and a portion of his labor, that he produced fully with his own work, is forcefully seized. government is slavery. it is a religion.

>Is there a more annoying position held by socialists?
A socialist is guaranteed 100% annoying anyway

in summary
the existanse of a state anywhere
is a threat to the liberty of people
that do not belong to a state.
and, the only way to resist the resources of a state,
and to maximize your liberty,
is to form a state of your own
which you then intentionally limit the powers of
over your people.

read
and

Jow Forums can only criticize libertarianism by strawmanning it.

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you have socialism in usa as we speak, you absolute fucking mongoloid. you have a welfare state providing untold amounts of money to shitskins and lazy retards. you just call it something else because of the negative connotations associated with the word socialism.