All the US citizens who demonize "socialism" and "communism" are missing the point. China has a one-party system that revolves around a party called Communist Party. Call it the way you like, but at the end of the day that system (of big centralized government) has performed a lot better than the US system. And not only economically. While the USA has been creating enemies all over the world, China has been creating friends: the two foreign policies stand in stark contrast, especially if one compares the military budget that the USA and China spend to protect their interests. The USA has spent almost ten times more than China over the last decade, and China seems to have gotten ten times more with ten times less.
The very reason to oppose a socialist regime has been weakened by the USA itself: the undemocratic Chinese system ends up electing a competent and responsible leader like Xi, who is respected all over the world, whereas the democratic US system ends up electing incompetent leaders like George W Bush and now even Donald Trump who are despised everywhere in the world (except Russia).
National socialism is ok Marxist socialism is for blue haired faggots
William Cruz
Well why don't you go live there then faggot? Always talk so fondly about these anti-burger countries but never actually would go live there. If you love chink dick so much, then fuck off.
Gabriel Fisher
Flag checks out
Elijah Rivera
you know what ALL people who say socialism/communism isnt a bad have in common? They've never had to live under ANY socialist or communist regime. This is free people criticizing a free marketplace that, while not perfect, is the best thing we've found to date. Rot in fucking hell, faggots.
Cooper Perry
>but at the end of the day that system (of big centralized government) has performed a lot better than the US system But the quality of life for the average person is still way better in the USA.
Oliver Cook
National socialism completely ravaged both itself and host countries in 10 years.
Marxism is a major and ever-present sustainable political philosophy leading nations to success.
Adrian Jones
The quality of life for the average Roman was also one of the highest right before its' collapse. High quality of life is a residue of past times.
Leo Clark
Look how wonderful is Communist China. This city was built 3 years ago and already unsafe to live...
the fact that the more capitalist hong kong is easily the best part of china, kind of ruins the whole argument, does it not?
Liam Thompson
No one wants you "people" here. You Communists bring nothing but spam.
Andrew Ward
well Hong Kong seems ruined now as well from a city life persepctive. It is becoming as void as any multi million city in China sadly, since a lot of the international folks from all over who made it such an interesting spot besides the buisness aspect do not like living under the new chinese enforcements.
Ayden Edwards
>Because China is a paragon of- >Look at shit spewing from mouth >Look at flag
Oh sorry, I didn't notice your shame leaf, Johnny Chang.
Sorry but I won't buy into totalitarianism. Of course your economy is going to be efficient if you authorize child labor and underpay workers, and of course your political system will be quick at achieving goals if they don't need the approval of an opposition that gets silenced and persecuted. Shit, they don't even have free access to the whole WWW there!
China makes us see want they would like us to see, i'm sorry for you if you didn't understand this
China is a dictatorship sitting atop a wafer-thin fiscal policy forged from lies, deceit and unparalleled hubris.
There is nothing of value to be learned from China, but that doesn't matter because their 'culture' is completely incompatible with the west in every way imaginable.
that second greentext is why controlled economies fail, instead of going by natural, actual demand they go by artificial demand and thus don't produce the quantity of goods that people actually need
Jaxon Cook
Hi CCP shill. Hope you haven't ate too many neighborhood dogs today you insect fuck.
John Butler
China works because its run by chinese for chinese intrests. Yes big government works. If its run by people that coincides with the intrests of their racial group. No if its run by people that hate the people of the country they rule. Thats why ZOG produces all these absurdities. Its a false dichotomy. Its about who rules you.Its a racial question. Jews have fueld in a kosther sandwich the right with the big government lie. Thats not the question. The question is who owns the government. To what ends is a government actually working. China was particularly successful because it tricked ZOG. ZOG wanted to use China for its world order. Pragmatic and cunning as they are they cheated ZOG.They told them what they wanted to hear. ZOG transfered all the technology to them for almost nothing. For simple racial hatred of whites and pure greed ZOG weakend itself and strengthend China. ZOG only become aware of this as China violated more and more "international" ZOG normes. The last act was that Xi could now run without any constrained on the number of terms. Jews hated autocracy because they are natural oligarchs. Thats why they hate Stalin. Thats why China is in their crosshairs. China has nothing to do with SJW liberalism or democratic trotzikyite communism. The are hardcore national socialists. Gays go into the gulag. SJWs go itno the gulag. Muzzies go into the gulag. Fuck environmentalism. Fuck unilateralism. Fuck deindustrialisation. Fuck international norms.
ZOG is over.
Robert Thomas
Very Zhang post
Owen Gomez
Its performed better than the us in growth increases
Additionally the us has cucked itself with liberalism which isnt necessarily tied to the type of government. China for example doesnt give a fuck about bankrolling or its image when being obviously expansionist, whereas the us is on the verge of abolishing borders
China has half the worlds population and barely any of its wealth. They clearly are not innovative and their growth has slowed as they have reached their soft limit
Luis Green
National socialism is for retards who think you have to be socialist to be nationalist, or think the two ideas are inherently related
Jack Diaz
look at this ghost city does china even have a billion and a half people? i'm seriously beginning to doubt those figures.
Move to CHINA AND SEE YOUR SOCIAK SCORE. UNDER 600, YOU CAN NOT TAKE A FUCKING PLANE. ONLY THE RICH AND EDUCATED NOW CAN ACCESS TRANSPORTATION, EDUCATION AND OPPORTUNITY. YOU LIVING IN YOUR MOMS BASEMENT WOULD BE ALLOW TO TRAVEL BY DONKEY ONLY.
Brayden Collins
>sustainable >cant solve mises' price problem >haven't made it past USSR production facsimile of the west as of yet
Landon Wilson
How much does the CCP pay you? Have they taught you about tienamen square yet? What about organ harvesting from Falun Gong followers?
Do you actually want the freedom to say what you really want, or do you want your family threatened when you start having thoughts that maybe the party doesn't have the best interests in China at heart. They're willing to destroy your motherland to retain power.
Gavin Price
nationalism is inherently socialist
Colton Torres
yes. Pol does not yet understand the squint-eyed menace
Unlike Russia it's not controlled by the kikes at every level and it's not the same kike design Marx made.
Carson Long
>GDP so I wrong Lmao
>have 20 trillion people in my country all contributing 1 dollar on average to the economy >we numbah one!
Benjamin Jones
China has an army of feudal slaves, OP is an idiot. He has probably never met any poor people from China or communist countries. Have fun living in your bubble in your parents basement
Dominic Bell
Impressive.
With this most recent achievement, fate has in a single stroke, marked the decline of the west and spelled a new era of wondrous prosperity and peaceful global dominance for the Chinese dragon, which promises to firmly stand in sharp contrast to the historically bloody ascent of western powers and the cruel subjugation it brought to the humbler nations of the world. With the blessings of Chinese quantum direct-current electricity, quantum aircraft carriers and quantum enhanced railguns will be the instruments with which China affirms its noble stewardship of 21st century world politics and offers the non-western world a different option; an humanist alternative to the depredations of Western leadership and the opportunity for a more equitable and dignified multilateralism.
Ethan Ward
What do you mean by performed a lot better? Does the average chang have a better quality of life than the average joe?
Justin Ramirez
>performed a lot better than the US system AHAHAHA. We know you're not really Canadian, you have to go back.
Lmao he's a like a real life version of me playing any strategy game.
Austin Cook
You're moving the goal post. It's objectively wrong to state that they barely have any of the world's wealth. They have 1/5th of the world's wealth and 1/5th of the world's population, and of course they're growing wealthier and wealthier by the minute.
Logan Walker
My point is that their wealth they have accumulated doesnt match their population, which means they they are not in fact successful
If you just took gdp per capita and extrapolated, china would be above 82 trillion gdp if it were as successful as the United states in that regard
Retard
Elijah Perez
does anyone know any good documentaries or videos or books, about how the average Chinese citizen lives today? All we get from China is propaganda about how great it is. But what about the average Chinese person? I assume many of them are living in poverty and have very low quality of life
Jason Sullivan
Which means that with 1/5th of the world's population they'd have to own 75% of the world's wealth, retard.
Your threshold for what's "successful" and what's not is pretty batshit retarded.
Also GDP per capita is pretty much irrelevant in the bigger picture. Is Qatar a superpower?
>they'd have to own 75% >wealth is a pie from which pieces are taken, static, never growing Retard
>the threshold is retarded That's not my threshold and I qualified it, because of course a retard would think so, but you missed that too
>is Qatar a superpower Missing the point, not surprising to me anymore
What metric or group of metrics on a per capita basis would you like to use to demonstrate how much better your insect colony is than the United states chang?
Lincoln Cooper
How could you even tell? You could show me the same million chinks 150 times and I couldn't tell the difference.
Gavin Foster
>Missing the point, not surprising to me anymore China replacing the US as the premier world power is pretty self evident as to their success. As I've stated, they don't need US per capita GDP to replace us, anymore than we need Qatar per capita GDP to be the sole superpower in the world. China's model works for them, and they're winning. That's MY point.
Isaiah Cox
PPP is a meme when 3/4 of your country is third-world. No shit you'll be able to buy cheap stuff.
Evan Nelson
>Is Qatar a superpower? Its people have a better standard of life than everyone else
Ian Barnes
>its self evident Lol >they dont need per capita to replace us That is true on its face but internal dynamics will be strained when the state is responsible for picking entire losing classes
Also when I consider success I think of it as it relates to the citizenry and not merely the country. Suppose Africa by sheer population becomes the premier power in the world, yet stays as it is in every other regard. I wouldn't consider that successful
Also you're premise that china has already overtaken the us in power is in my opinion wrong when they have no ability to project, and do not lead.
Who is responsible for the current world stability, thing like shipping lanes being safe and countries not warring with one another (as much as they otherwise would)? It is not china
Josiah Jones
I don't know - how people as dumb as OP still exist?
China is a parasite. It can live and grow as long as it has a host (US). If US decides to stop feeding the parasite - they are pretty much gone.
And decision to let that fat Winnie the Pooh rule China forever is another nail in the coffin. Regular change of the ruler is required for a country to be stable long term. China already chose the path - the path of the Soviet Union where party elites decided it was better to collapse the country rather than give up power.
Mason Rodriguez
>premier world power >has one post Soviet aircraft carrier Try harder Ching
Kayden Sanders
Boomers still posit most questions in a Cold War geopolitical paradigm. China is communist, to the extent that its institutions are Marxist-Leninist in structure, and that their policies are (to an extend) in accordance with principles of classical Marxism. But it is also an ethnostate that has used the collective imperative of communism to build a powerful nation out of the rubble.
Ryder Campbell
>Have they taught you about tienamen square yet? A bunch of faggy libtard students who became suicidal and wanted to become martyrs. Tienanmen square incident is the subject of a lot of bullshit. A tonne of the demonstrators were also hardcore Maoists who wanted a revival of Cultural Revolution era politics.
>What about organ harvesting from Falun Gong followers? This is also bullshit. Falun Gong weirdos are like Chinese scientologists who were attempting to subvert the government with their cult members in the 90s. Now they are a CIA asset used to promote anti-China propaganda in Western countries.
I don't even really like China or Chinese culture (I'd especially never live there), but these are the facts.
Adrian Lewis
They haven't built a shit mate. The greedy western elites needed cheap labor. So they built China. Country where it's people are a natural resource. Without west they would still be a shithole.
And most of the Chinese now about it. All Chinese chimp outs are purely for internal use. They know they can't compete with the west. OK, maybe they can with the west ruled by yurofaggots, but not with the US under Trump.
That's why rich Chinese kids live in the US and Australia. That's why Chinese women will do everything to jump on a white dick. And so on, and so on... .
Bentley Jones
none of that refutes anything I said. Yeah, they became developed by exporting cheap shit to the wealthier parts of the world. What else is any poorfag country meant to do?
>not with the US under Trump Trump has 2 - 6 more years in power. He's just the president, not an entire country.
Angel Hall
Ahahahahahaha AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Jacob Diaz
we already have a one-party system. trump was a fluke. they'll fix in nov and go back to business as usual.
Oliver Wilson
Qatar has 300K citizenz and 2.3million slaves, when the oil money runs out(and it will) they're fucked.
China is what she is today because she was ready to be exploited by the West looking for cheap labour. On any given day they won't be able to compete with the west. Heck, they are struggling to just keep up with Japan
Ryder Bailey
One of the poorest populations in the world. Slavery, child murder, starvation, everything made there is complete trash, organ selling, corruption at all levels. China fucking sucks ass, kill yourself.
