Stalin vs Hitler

the one who didn't kill literally all of his military leaders

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I think Nazi Germany was more successful because Germans cared more about there country and worked hard for it while USSR citizens hated theirs

Stalin because he was a materialist (scientific socialism) and not an idealist full of ghosts in the head like shitler

Hitler was a closet homo therefore degenerate

Doesn't mean much when they're both fit for padded cells
I guess that's why he had all his political opponents sent to camps or murdered, started the largest war in human history and was directly responsible for tens of millions of deaths and countless billions of dollars in damages

The one that didn't lose horribly against the west.

Plus the only drugs Stalin needed were tobacco and ocassional vodka

Hitler on the other hand needed injection of several hard drugs everyday

If he hadn't fucked up the invasion of the USSR maybe we'd be talking. Fuck him for having failed so miserably dooming us all to this fucking nightmare.

stable as fuck

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They were both very attractive.
As for who was the more logical leader, I'd say Hitler.

Reminder that WWII was an alien proxy war.

He was cruel but mentally stable
Hitler wasn't cruel but crazy

Hitler was an INTJ, this means introverted intuition.
He created master plans and expected them to work perfectly, this made him lose the war

If he hadn't been such a self-centred genocidal paranoid maybe I'd like him. I don't know up to what extent he fought the jews.

Hitler wasn't crazy at all. The craziest thing he did was creating ration cards for pets

They're both Amaleks

BOTH WERE JEWS MARIONETTES.

I agree that being the Fuhrer Hitler holds the majority of the responsibility for defeat, but you are treating him like a traitor rather than a man who tried his best against impossible odds.

>attacks the USSR
>during winter
lol

look at this face.

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>Hitler wasn't cruel but crazy
It was mostly in the last years due to prolonged drug abuse

>has no warm feelings for humanity as a whole
>mentally stable lol :DD

Stalin was perfect. He industrialised single-handedly the Soviet Union. He led the Soviet people in the Great Patriotic War. He gulag'd the fags and degenerates. Don't confuse what Stalin with modern fag arm-chair commies who enjoy their vanilla onions lattes. Stalin was a nationalist and would not tolerate degeneracy or the liberal tolerance of today.

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Neither was very logical, paranoia vs messiah complex.

Hitler was actually too trusting.

Hitler. He defended Europe against invadors!

youtube.com/watch?v=AolfpnCYc4A

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>against impossible odds
Lol no, he had everything in his favour. By crushing the USSR he would have been in a new cold war situation with all Eurasia and Africa under his control.

>Hitler
>known for his autistic tantrums and invading the largest union of nations AFTER alienating any possible allies
>killed millions of whites, buried right politics for generations for his shrieking speeches

>Stalin
>wiped out a bunch of asiatic tribes, deported turks to the tundras and gulaged criminals
>sent assassins the world over to wipe out kike internationalists
>issued world peace with a reactionary statehood
>conquered Berlin, was merciful to his enemies
>beloved to this day

It’s kinda obvious here m8.

see

This^

The battle of the Bulge is a prime example of his delusion and incompetence.

>ganged up
Hitler attacked Poland for no reason. Hitler stole Czechoslovak land. Hitler was a criminal and did more to destroy European nationalism than anyone else

What was Hitler supposed to do? Let Germany get buttfucked by Stalin or let his people die?

he didnt attack during winter the war got drug out into the winter

>Let Germany get buttfucked by Stalin or let his people die?
Germany only got buttfucked because of him and his retarded generals though. Stalin only defended himself.

>What is Reichskommissariat?

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>and his retarded generals though.
His generals didn't make any decisions in the war; Only Hitler did.

based caшкo

As a pole, I despise both. Both were disgust retards that set back my country half a century, one just was more honest about it.

Hitler, because at least he foresaw the fact that parasitic influences make socialism impossible.

>severko

wtf are you doing in macedonia grzegorz

This. Stalin =god, he is the greatest human to ever walk on earth.

VPN, lizard mods gots me.

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Typical normiefag response

Yeah, what is Barbarossa? His generals went against his orders (attack south, which was the right thing to do in that case). And the plan was retarded as fuck with no preparations at all and a heavy underestimation of the enemy.

Not surprised you fell for the Jewish narrative of WW2. It's in their interest to be alarmist about these things.

youtu.be/kVo5I0xNRhg

The one who won, obviously. I mean, what kind of rationalization would be to call a leader who lost "rational"?

>attacks the USSR
>during winter
why are americans always this dumb

The German generals were very talented generals but they thought taking Moscow,would end the war meanwhile Hitler thought that taking Moscow would be important,but not as important his generals showed it to be

His Generals believed that capturing Moscow would capitulate the Soviet Union, like what happened in France.
Hitler wanted to capture Stalingrad to control the Volga, cut off supplies to Moscow, encircle the Caucasus Armies and get the oil.
His generals wanted Moscow because.... ??? No reason
But Jews manipulated his smart reasoning into “hurrr this city is named after him”

He also believed that Citadel was a retarded move

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What narrative?

This and stalin

are you really a jew? why are you here?

Is this thread some sort of leftypol raid or why are there so many Sovietboos here?

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>Every Israel flag id is a Jew

>What is a VPN?

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>The craziest thing he did was not killing the Jews

ftfy

>Hitler was a closet homo
>But he was also a virgin
>Even though he used to rape his niece because he was so mad about being a virgin
>Then he shot himself in the forehead because it has the highest chance of killing him
>Even though it was established long before that the best place is actually behind the right ear
>But he probably didn't want to spoil his face by the exit path because he had to be identifiable
>By pure coincidence he didn't look at all like Hitler aside from the moustache
>Turns out years later he was actually a female with a female skull and everything

Hitler really was an unbelievable creation, that's even before you get into him bending space and time in order to murder 6m Jews and leave no trace behind without using any fuel at all except for dead Jews.
I can't even imagine how many dimensions were on his chessboard.

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You ludicrous to believe that any of the allies gave a shit about the sovereignty of irrelevant eastern nations.

Why didn't Britain and France also declare war on the USSR for invading Poland? What about Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Ukraine, and Finland? Last time I checked it was Nazi Germany that liberated these nations. Not like they cared much either.

Your international solidarity is meaningless Jew.

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Leftypol doesn’t even like stalin, they’re fucking liberals.

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The narrative to portray Hitler as an idiot, who fucked up an easy war with his arrogance.

The idea is to dissociate exemplary German fighting ability from the revolutionary strength drawn from National Socialism.

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They have an impressive capacity for double-think.
So tell me what's so great about Stalin?

leftypol is a Trotskiest haven

>Alex Jones strawmans
Fuck off, anyone who denies the holocaust at this time is retarded.
>inb4 where is the non-testimony evidence
See Goebbels's diary, Einsatzgruppen testimonies and testimonies from thousands of people.
>inb4 6 ovens
No one claims the ovens were used, its a well stated fact they used mass graves
>inb4 why not execute with guns
They did, the gas chambers were for field testing purposes
>inb4 turth does not fear investigation
I agree, and that's why censorship is retarded. Its the same reason that its illegal to insult faggots and use "hate speech", those aren't covering up anything, is it?

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Didn't know Israel was part of the 56% club.

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Yes. Because liberation means the mass murder of parts of the population. Did 25% of the Belarussian people disappear? No. They were murdered by the Fascists. The only places were the Fascists were considered liberators were in the early stages. When the Einsatzgruppen came to down, I can assure you that wasn't the case.

The other got funded by the international bankers, the other fought against this funding.

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>The German generals thought taking Moscow would end the war
Then they were useless fucks.

>start the invasion of the largest country in Europe, known for it's harsh weather and lack of infrastructure
>start the invasion in late june
>make no preparations for winter and have no plan in case your initial plan doesn't work and the war lasts more than 3 months
>make no preparations to suply the army lacking thousands of trucks and big enough railway reparation and construction teams
>attack a pile of rubble instead of the valuable resources they are using to constantly replenish the casualties, resources you don't have and need very badly
>constantly underestimate your enemy and believe you have "beaten" them and they won't recover
>overextend like a retard with a last offensive when winter is already here and you can't supply most of the line instead of preparing defenses and reorganising for winter
>soviet conter attack happens, massive casualties, loss of most of the heavy equipment, you'll never be able to recover because you don't have enough men, resources and industry
>start stalingrad with a massive lack of everything because of your stupidity in 1941, make the SAME mistakes again over and over, and have all your women raped by mutts and liberators
this was the power of the German high command

whats the general isreali opinion on ethiopian jews?

see

They are definitely nothing like American niggers. Generally most of them are decent nowadays

See They underrestimated how much bankers would fund USSR. Underestimating the jew was their only mistake.

>purged globalists
>purged degenerates
>created the mightiest super power of the 20th century
>btfo’d gay fake nationalists
>btfo’d anglos
>btfo’d japan
>created the greatest industrial capacity of world history
>created the most powerfull land force in known history
>btfo’d kulaks
>moved ethnicities around without giving a fuck in order to create sensible borders
>btfo’d trotskyites
>btfo’d dumb anarchists
>btfo’d US
Do you want more?

Stalin was a sexual tyranossaurus that dealt with old bolsheviks one at a time, methodically and successfully while simultaneously industrializing Russia into a juggernaut.

Hitler was a legitimately stupid idealist that would do more damage if he actually managed to conquer Lebensraum.

It's not about funds. If you take the Caucasus they can't use tanks and planes. The necessary oil could have never been sent from the USA at the time.

the final red pill

Humanitarianism was never the primary motivator for the allies fighting Germany either. Japan was committing all kinds of Genocide in China years before US involvement. Russian atrocities before, during, and after the war dwarfs anything the Germans ever accomplished.

Trying to frame a "good" side and "bad" side is just childish. Stay focused on what we're arguing.

So then you have to ask yourself. What were the real motivations, and who was the perpetrator?

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I don't know what to be more impressed by:
>stalin commits 26,000,000 men to die
>Hitler manages to kill 26,000,000 ruskies
OY VEY, GOY. REMEMBER THE 26 GORILLION

>The people in charge of USSR admit the war was won because of american and british funding
>it’s not about funds

Fucking stop functioning for being this stupid.

why didn't they have any kids?
can you imagine their descendants quietly lurking on Jow Forums?

I think that the fault mostly weighs on Von Bock.It's his fault that Operation Barbarossa failed.He gathered more troops on Army Group Center,when most troops should've joined Army Group South.But still,Germans relaized their stupid mistake in 1942 when the war was clearly going to be lost.Also,Germany couldn't win the war because the USSR and the US had huge industries and their industrial production was doubling every month,but on the meantime the German industrial production was falling.Germans had done many miatakes in military production spending a lot of money on weapons that were shit.

>its debateable
fuck of faggot

>t.marxist faggot who got spoonfeed by Americans and Bongs failing humanity

Seems like you source most of the problems to high command in the Wehrmacht (which is true). Meaning Hitler wasn't an idiot like you claimed, and his biggest mistake was not keeping his generals in check.

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how does a feel that a communist jews beat the fuck out of htiler and fucked the sweet pussy and impregnated the german girls

>purged globalists
>purged degenerates
I'll give you those.
>created the mightiest super power of the 20th century
USA
>btfo’d gay fake nationalists
>btfo’d anglos
>btfo’d japan
Partisan bullshit, whether those are good or not depends on who you are.
>created the greatest industrial capacity of world history
USA
>created the most powerfull land force in known history
k
>btfo’d kulaks
Yeah let's take from these people what their families built for generations. How heroic!
>moved ethnicities around without giving a fuck in order to create sensible borders
There's a bunch of Russians in the Baltics now. How is that a sensible border?
>btfo’d trotskyites
>btfo’d dumb anarchists
And created something equally bad.
>btfo’d US
Huh?

>Hitler was actually too trusting.
Didn't Stalin sit and cry in his room for 3 days after Germany betrayed Russia and invaded because he thought him and Hitler were genuine friends?

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