Argentina's new crisis is coming

This is a brief thread to talk about Argentina's upcoming financial crisis.

tl,dr: Argentina is fucked

The roots of the crisis:

1. Argentina only produce primary commodities (farming. mostly onions. Also some mining.). It

2. Argentina can't produce any industrial products since we can't compete with China's slave driven industry. So nobody invest their money since it s a lost cause.

Hence, there are no jobs for us.

Farming is mostly made by machines and a small group of people own the land and/or the rights to use it. That also allows the feudal lords (aka the governors of the inner states), to hold a thight grip on the country.

So most of us can only get a job in the commercial area (bringing those producst mae by the chinese), or in those service industries (law firms, financial consultants firms, macdonalds, bla, bla)

What was the "solution"? create jobs inside the goernment. At the end of Cristina Fernandez's administration, 1 out of 4 Argentinians worked for the government. 10 million people. Even with onions on the rise, all the money she collected by income tax was not enough. So she had to print a lot a money. That gave us a nasty inflation

Now with Macri, he decided to let that stay (since there are no other jobs), but instead he place a bunch of treasury bonds, in order to lower the real amount of paper money in the economy. That worked for a while, but onions prices fell and he didn't want to print more money to fight inflation, so he created a bunch of taxes. (he also lower some other, which he promised during his campaing, but actually he only replace them) one of tose taxes was an income tax to the financial revenue (AKA the interest you would have gain from the treasury bonds) continue...

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So people started to sell tem and buy us dollars, that aso was accompanied by trump's new fed interest rate. and the dollar rose a lot. And the treasury bonds were getting to their expiring day, and nobody was going to renew them because fo the taxes and he was going to dry the tresaury, which was full of money because of the bonds. So he pacted with the banks (the true owners of those bonds), and he withdrawn a lot of money from the IMF, and put yet another bomb with expiring day in 2 years. So that is where we are now.

And we can't escape, since the roots of the problem are still there. There are is no industry, no jobs. And no one wants to invest

we are fucked

>yet another bomb with expiring day in 2 years. So that is where we are now


another bond

Venezuela v2.0 incoming.
And you're not even commies, kek.

Who can we blame for this then?

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Nobody cares dude.

>Who can we blame for this then?

the Uk, the US, the feudal lords of the 1800' hundreds and China

> says he doesn't care.
> reply

The root of the crisis is your massive welfare state. Privatize education, healthcare and remove all welfare benefits, invest more money in the Military and the police to curb the riots, and it will sort itself out.

No one wants to bear the political cost of carving away welfare. Also, againg, tehre are no jobs. We can't just cut it

If there are no jobs, people will emigrate or die. Problem solved. If they try to riot, jail them.

>Debt as a % of the GDP: 54%
>Deficit as a % of the GDP: 6%
It's not impossible to solve, but you're a bunch of fucking retards and you will probably collapse anyway.

We don't have money to jail them. We can't even pay the bonds.

Aslo, international instItutions won't bear with it, and WE NEED THEIR MONEY

Just cut welfare and your deficit is gone, fucking retards.

>Who can we blame
how about yourselves

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buy a farm in the south, grow paltas and embrace chaos, mate
the sun will rise again after this long night

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Had a chit-chat with beautiful Argentinian girl in the Train to Varanasi. She was 24 and traveling solo, gave her a very nice pussy massage and yes I had her consent.

Having said that your country is fucked. I'm sure we will beat your onion industry soon.

Gas all jews. That's the only answer.

dude shut up, you dont know what you are talking about... I see threads like this every once in a while, Argentinians complaining telling everyone their country sucks, you are embarrassing not only Argentina but us, the arg users.

Kindly fuck off to Jow Forums, kindly

>be Argentina
>B+ tier geographic location
>Rich in natural resources, farming, mining, gas and oil (some not even explored yet)
>Adequate water and power generation potential.
>Coastal resources.
>Still blame whitey

switch to so᠌y you fucking idiot

>>The roots of the crisis:
>
>1. Argentina only produce primary commodities (farming. mostly onions. Also some mining.)
>>Who can we blame for this then?
>
>the Uk, the US, the feudal lords of the 1800' hundreds and China

simply vile. Your ENTIRE nation, rich in resources and in a geographically advantaged position is capable of producing s,oy and ore, and Amiergga:DDD is to blame because you can't do anything for yourselves.

I dont understand Latin America. You're all so inept and corrupt and somehow, in all the nations down there, not even ONE major territory is incapable of creating a nation of Law, Institutions that enable an economy and peoples to grow and prosper. Not a SINGLE one

haha based pussy massager!

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P o o i n l o o

Structurally, it's not a hard issue to solve.

1. Remove most tariffs and replace it with the import certificate mechanism to manage trade and to bring your trade back into balance so it stops weighing on the value of the Peso. It would have the additional impact of creating opportunity for exporters and lower input costs for businesses and consumers over time, thereby significantly resolving inflation.
2. Invest in physical infrastructure to enable new businesses to be created and more efficient products to be provided.
3. Enact prudential capital controls to obtain favorable (or at least not unfavorable) capital flows and to reduce systemic risk.
4. Ensure by any means that a robust financial infrastructure exists to provide better access to capital and make available a multitude of risk-mitigating products

Basically, if you get your balance of payments stabilized with low/no tariffs (relying instead on import certificates), the value of the peso and inflation will stabilize. Then you have make sure that the infrastructure and supporting markets for businesses to thrive exists, even if it requires government intervention--you cannot simply assume 'the mystic hand of the market' will take care of that part.

the roots of the crisis is that your financial deficit is 1000 times larger than every other deficit combined. it's not the farming or the industry, you (and i mean macri, not cristina) literally just borrowed a bunch of money that you had no way of paying off ever, even the interest payments are way off budget for you. cristina kept you poor but macri is crashing your country with no survivors.

go ahead and crash like you always do but at least try to understand why this time.

that's not the problem, look at their financial deficit. even if they did 1 through 4 perfectly they would still crash.

>if you get you balance of payments stabilized
Already addressed.

Argentian's GDP is at highest right now. Inflation is caused by private business, they print money because you buy dollars. You need to export, not increase investments. Importing and taking investments from foreigners obviously doesn't benefits natives, foreigners benefit themselves. Invest into natives and export, stop buying dollars and stop raising the prices.

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Sounds like they need some Anglos or a Pinochet.

machir is a jew himself

Uruguay is doing okay
>Country is a a bunch of European convicts that escaped and embarked on the same path of self destruction via (((progress)))

They're going to get colonized LOL

It's a situation that requires a reset, that's why it seems to unsolveable. We're exactly the same here, just 20 years behind (hello pension bubble, bye bye any prospects of ever retiring). Your economy needs to collapse, almost entirely, then restart, with more focus on internally manufactured goods. As you say, nobody wants to cut the welfare state, and it won't be cut. Not until it judders to a final, merciful halt. Then you can start fixing your country. In the mean time, start prepping and play the accellerationism game

They literally built an iphone factory in Argentina and you guys fucked it up, only yourselves to blame

>So most of us can only get a job in the commercial area (bringing those producst mae by the chinese), or in those service industries (law firms, financial consultants firms, macdonalds, bla, bla)
Why not just put tariffs on Chinese goods and have production for local use? No one can compete with billions of chinks.

What does building an iphone factory benefit anybody in Argentina? It only raises GDP, because something is being build. I can't eat a phone, can't live in a phone, can't marry a phone, can't extend native business with it, so basically can't extend native prosperity with it.

There's no Chink booheyman. Most of GDP growth in Argentina is from construction business, they use dollars to buy and dollars to store in private banks, which obviously doesn't benefits natives or native currency.

Who knows then, Argentina's economy has been fucked up forever.

youtube.com/watch?v=KD_1Z8iUDho

Argentina's economy has been praised by international economic community for being very good, mostly because they expand global companies. So what does a country get when you expand iPhone company? You are expanding iPhone business. iPhone isn't adding anything to government(country), since government isn't the owner of iPhone, they can maybe tax it, but what does that create anyway? That tax collection is dollar based and it only makes dollar more powerful, since international trade is based on dollar.

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Would a restoration of Perón's goverment be possible?

>t.fellow argie living in Spain

Is the filter removed?
Onions

Wait, how?

American superiority you so᠌yboy

Please teach me master

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Sorry dude. Seriously, I'm sad thinking you guys are destined to a favela life.

Still,
stay away from Europe, we already have hundreds of niggers, don't need more.

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Crisis and Argentina
Name a more iconic duo

Peru and Palomas.

based pajeet

Cringe

POO

Its socialism... Argentina does not qualify as Socialist but your leader has been instituting Socialism policies.

You elect a socialist, this is what happens.. It never fails..

Perú and lynching
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>exporting onions on dollars private banking
>importing globalist companies on dollar private banking
Yes user, you are stupid, massively retarded.
There's no Socialism in Latin America, especially not Venezuela who lives by international dollar oil trades. People also don't collectively own anything in Latin America.

die in hell fucking ashkenazi jew
macri is trump's chosen one to save this country
soon we are going to be free

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based

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Do you have any single fact to back that up?
I'm serious.
All he's done so far is following globalist agenda, we lack industry, as OP said all we produce are commodities and most of our smart guys either work in the private sector or just leave the country.
Our schools are filled with 90IQ foreigners and our universities with Huelizians and other latinos whom can't behave.
Argentina is a freemason wet dream, as we replicated their motto, the one used by the frogs in their so called revolution, that is the transition from a monarchy to a proto-plutocracy.

We NEED nationalism instead of all these jews in the govt and court.

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posts like these make me feel better about your nation's suffering

It's not like any guri likes Argentina anyways, our love for your people is the most unrequited love ever.

Private, public...etc. sector isn't so much important, important is if you create for country or for profit and foreigners. What people need all over the planet are 3 things: food/water, house, land. That's all. Country should first provide those 3 things, then think about international trade or selling anything else.

Hehheh.. U r gay..

The Day of Rake is now

Bump

Based Poo not only will massage the cunt of your women, but he's also gonna Onion the shit out of your loo, careful now Argentina!

So, Argentina really hasn't recovered since the 30's has it user?
That and I'm suprised that Argentina from the sounds of it hasn't adopted a secondary or tertiary specialisation for the country.
Also this needs more bumps
Posts like this make me sad that neither us at our height, nor the Americans took any interest in colonizing/liberating the fuck out of the rest of the Americas.

So what your saying is when SHTF here I shouldn't flee to Argentina?

Argentina's problem has always been, is and will be, unpayable state programs.

East and West Falkland

macri gato

thats impossible,they would literally destroy the country