Between Moldbug’s Universalism, the Sabbatean-Frankism sect, and Mazdak’s ur-socialist experiment there is a recurring theory that political movements are at there core religious movements. What other movements corroborate or break this paradigm? What would be the nature of political movements based off of cultism?
Finally is the Siege-inspired White Nationalism of James Mason merely a retooling of Manson’s cult for a modern era?
Progressivism (also called Universalism) is responsible for the vast majority of the world's problems today. It is a non-theistic religion descended in a direct line from the various Dissenter sects of England. Although the belief in God was dropped during the religion's evolution in order to improve its ability to spread, the core of progressive beliefs are very similar to the Quaker beliefs of a few centuries ago. In short, progressives are dangerous and creepy religious maniacs who don't need to believe in God but that makes them no less dangerous, creepy or maniacal.
The conflict between progressivism and conservatism
Progressivism always wins in the long run. Conservatism can at most slow down the implementation of selected progressive ideas. This is because progressives dominate the universities, media and non-governmental organizations which allows them to mold public opinion. Progressives dominate those institutions because progressivism is a far more attractive ideology for people who are intelligent, ambitious and status-seeking. In the US conservatives are largely members of Protestant sects of American origin (mostly Evangelical sects) whereas progressives are the spiritual descendants of the English dissenters, so this conflict is essentially a religious one.
>durr, progressivism, hurr, is bad >also derp, its the reason we no longer live in caves
moldburg is very dumb for a jew
Nolan Nelson
Retard detected
Adam Diaz
What is civilization if not a progressive innovation? Every single thing you may consider "traditionalist" was at one point something novel and new
Liam Gonzalez
exactly my point mate
how can he says progressives are dangerous, creepy and manical when they're the very same reason he can post stupid shit on the internet?
tecnology and social reform creates new problems, that's a given, but the benefits outweigh the costs
that's why fascists realized conservatives were dumber than niggers and embraced progressiveness from a right wing perspective
Grayson Jones
>Manson’s cult for a modern era wtf are you even talkin about Manson was the first false flag and was a patsy a stigmata on America and the first step in creating the hollywood propaganda machine Polanski was a rappiste who sold his soul and his wife he even made a movie about what happened to his wife
Kayden Gray
James Mason considers Manson to be an inspiration for much of his political theory. This isn't a defense of Manson, but rather a potential explanation that Siege's appeal is religious moreso than political.
Ryder Martinez
so where did James find Manson inspiration since Manson never wrote anything ? Did he had direct contact with him ? or based his whole premise on fabricated material like the whole story is ?
Bentley Brooks
You're still retarded. Progressives delusionally think history is just this one straight line of progressives winning. That's wrong. Alcohol Prohibition was a complete failure and it was something progressives pushed for. The idea of banning alcohol federally was something never done before. It was a new thing and it failed dramatically.
The fundamental problem of progressives is that they arrogantly believe that there is one single ideology that is applicable to the entirety of humanity. Anyone who questions their dogma is deemed evil.
Moldbug is probably one of the most important writers of our time.
Alexander Harris
>The earliest story of prohibition of alcohol is linked to the legendary Xia Dynasty (traditionally dated ca. 2070 BC–ca. 1600 BC) in China. Yu the Great, the first ruler of the Xia Dynasty, prohibited alcohol throughout the kingdom.[1] It was legalized again after his death, during the reign of his son Qi.
soiboi education
Luis Harris
Most people don't actually read before they write so clearly the real Manson and the Manson of Mason's writings will differ incredibly. James Mason was a Laveyan Satanist so that's probably how he got into emulating Manson.
Lucas Cox
Wow, another instance of progressives failing debunks my argument? As I said earlier, you're a retard
Grayson Price
I've been deeply interested in Manson story while reading the Bobby Beausoleil version of the story. Bobby had for many years a section on his website where he was showing his answer to the letter he receive all those years. Many where really interesting. Sad he has took them off. youtube.com/watch?v=oHvpCPhQZ_o Manson was not satanist though
Hudson Rodriguez
That's the fucking problem with progressives You people are always dead fucking certain that your "progress" is worth it, yet based on what? It's nothing more than faith.
You yourself wrote >but the benefits outweigh the costs How do you know? Nothing more than faith.
Dylan Ward
Furthermore, how is "benefit" even calculated? Let me guess, you're a utilitarian? It's always utilitarians who become crypto-totalitarians that want the entire world to accept one single ideology because they believe it to be best.
Cooper Roberts
people gotta believe in something and culture needs cult-like apparati enforcing the given orthodoxy that's not really a distinction point between ideologies
Cooper Brooks
I know that Manson wasn't a Satanist. The point is that James Mason was(is?) and that's why he saw Manson as a role model rather than a weirdo. James Mason tried to create a White Nationalist group in the 80s modeled after Manson's cult. Obviously it didn't take over the world, but that almost certainly inspires his work.
I haven't heard of Beausoleil so I'll have to check that out. I know Miles Mathis made the case for Manson being a fed plant.
Nathaniel Russell
>can't distinguish progressivism from technology and reform oh fucking baby do you have a long way to go lad, but at least you recognize neocons are tards
John Williams
im a fascist
progress based on my will to power, why should the lion concern itself with the sheep?
the nature of conservatives is to adapt and follow orders
your kind defends christian values now just like thousands of years ago it defended pederasty and slavery. You don't even know why, you just do. that's how dumb you guys are
Evan Martinez
I'm not conservative faggot
Jack Collins
Beware conflating progress with progressivism. These concepts are neither synonymous nor interchangable.
Aaron Howard
You're nothing more than a weak man using the fantasy of fascism to feel strong. You have no will to power yourself, so instead you latch onto the history of past regimes to feel powerful. >if I say I'm a fascist, then that means I am equal to powerful fascist people of the past
Aaron Hill
those digit though it's why i'm trying to tell you Mason use the false image given to Manson by zog to build his premise nothing in the story is true it's all fabricated see Manson as the first modern patsy Manson had a normal commune for the time the rest is pure invention Bobby Beausoleil is still refused parole to this day for crime people get out 20 years sooner why is the question
