Which country is more free and democratic, Jow Forums?

None of them is democratic, but Russia at least has some degree of freedom.

I would say Vodka land, at least they don't pretend to be free and democratic, they are authoritarian and don't larp as otherwise.

> Russian cops don't throw you in jail for defending yourself from assailants
Few such cases. Postsoviet self-defence laws are retarded, and if case isnt loud and covered by media enough, youll surely go to prison.

china unironically
and when i mean democratic is that they respect the desires o the mayority o the population
han supremacism while in the west the mayority is being replaced
deslocalization of industries vs state control of the economy or the benefit of the mayority
and the authoritarism o china pale in comparison with what cia and their minions(google,facebook..)are doing

There's a story in the UK where a guy defended himself from a bunch of paki dipshits, and when the cops showed up, he got arrested because the pakis told the cops that he used racial slurs against them.
That's what I mean when I say that you're not allowed to defend yourself in the UK.

comparing freedom and democracy as equals.
wake up sheeple

Russians arent allowed to state their own opinion, but atleast they have one

Britain. Russia is ruled by a bunch of sinister oligarchs who pretend to hate capitalism, and the corrupt government constantly uses divide and conquer tactics on Western nations, while pretending that they're no longer evil kremlings and that the Cold War isn't going on, while infiltrating the so-called "alt-right movement" to spread racial hatred and anti-Semitic fearmongering.

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>Russian cops
well theres your problem there aint none

no guns, no freedom of speech or religion. You bootlicking nazi fucks make me sick

Neither

In one way or another, both Russia and UK are equally corrupted
But the only difference between those 2 countries is that British population is not even aware of its corruption

China looks much worse than Russia in every category and metric, besides 'muh GDP'.

You can criticize Putin or anyone in the government. Russia has more free speech then UK, in UK you get in jail for tweets. give me a break.

Even that is real fucky, I get the feel that all the china made shit is just a front so the country can artificially undervalue their yuans. I'd feel much safer investing in russian peso's then in the chink economy.

Russia

Looks like it's bongland.

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Russia.

Venezuela, North Korea, and Saudi Arabia allow you to deny the holocaust.

By your logic, those countries must be wonderfully free and open libertarian paradises then.

How effective and professional are police over there? I always imagined Russian cops as being nothing more than the strong arm of the state used to keep the peasantry in line

>Reply
who gives a shit about democratic cunt? the us is a constitutional fucking republic asshole. a better question would be what is the world's best republic. fuck off faggot.

They're more free in the most important way.
Exposing the Jewish lie is the ultimate truth.
And therefor the ultimate freedom.

I'm happy that Saudi Arabia and North Korea let you call out jewish lies, but that doesn't necessarily mean that I want to live in those countries, and I'm sure you wouldn't want to either if you were given a wider list of options.

certainly Russia, you fucking dumb. Their luxury Gulags are waiting for you to take some Holiday.

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texas

You can openly criticize government in Russia and Belarus, and say whatever you want. Nobody gives a fuck.
It's political activities (e.g. mass protests) that are punished.

darn tootin

I'm bongistan you cant expose child rape gangs, its punishable by prison.

have a mcdonalds to calm your blood pressure

Britain is starting to crack down on criticising jews and shills. Russia already does so, despite having other advantages admittedly. Yet, I'd say the UK is more free. You shouldn't forget that the Russian government is a literal cabal of jewish/shilling gangsters. The real Putin-Trump connection is via Chabad Lubavitcher Jew Jared Kushner and best friend of Putin rabbi with Chabad Lubavitch Berel Lazar.

Only concrete, objective, factual information matters.

is it true they got fancy options in mcdonalds france like croissant burgers

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He meant that you could be easily get jailed if you hurt someone who is attacking you. It's one of the disturbing laws we have. You cant harm attacker more, than he caused to you.

For any harm caused to a child - people got killed in a prisons easily, in women's blocks almost without exclusions.

/bread

this cuckery is unthinkable in Russia.
no one in police would look at what words were used, only on who were first to attack who, with what weapon, what physical damage were done.

payoffs for a psychological trauma caused by some mean words spoken - not exists, or symbolic at best.

Lauren Southern was banned from Britain but not from Russia. Hmm.

Russia in everyday freedom, UK in you vs the state cases.

We both have Internet censorship - we mostly censor opposition sites, but sometimes torrent trackers and porn sites get censored too. Not sure how much they censor in UK, but sounds like it's about the same
We both have strict gun laws, but UK laws are clearly more strict
Lolis are illegal in both of our countries, however possession of lolis both 2D and real life is legal here. Yes that is a bit weird but it's true, so more freedom there whether you like it or not
In terms of LGBT in UK you're free to be a homo and here you're free to live without homos around you, which are just different kinds of freedom
In terms of democratic elections UK is clearly more democratic however if they do back down on Brexit we may find out that UK is closer to our "democracy" than they're willing to admit
Justice system here is about as fair as it in UK when it comes to normal general cases but if the case involves politicians or some other corrupt assholes you're fucked. So clearly UK is more democratic there
When it comes to media, we both have state run media companies dominating the narrative in our countries, so not a lot of democracy on that front.

One is open air prison full of degenerates. The other one is Russia.

Gdp large ghost cities that fall down. After a few years see a connection