Thread dedicated to all things monarchistic
"Why I'm a Monarchist"
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Monarchism General
Josiah Hughes
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Angel Nelson
Reporting in. We need a monarchist meme flag
Nathaniel Cook
You should build a better first post for a general, we need youtube links, blogs, essential books, etc.
I have a lot of stuff in french, my only source in english was madmonarchist.blogspot.com
Juan Ramirez
monarchism threads (by meme flags)
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Samuel Howard
While I get the idea of having state power concentrated in the hands of one capable, effective, charismatic leader, the problem of succession is one that I don't think monarchy can properly answer. The problem is that, while the father might be a great leader, the son might end up being a retarded beta male that no one takes seriously. Just look at the Hapsburgs, or Kim Jong-Un. The son might also be lazy and hand power over to a council or adviser, or a liberal and create a Parliament with free elections and then let them do all the heavy lifting.
What's needed is a strong leader who's guided by ideology and backed by a party of like-minded individuals, from which, he can draw up a pool of candidates for succession and, ideally, the one most suited for the role is the one who's chosen. As for how the successor is actually chosen beyond simple appointment (I mean, just look at Spain if you want an example of how that can go wrong), maybe a closed election within the party, or set aside a group of (preferably) unbiased political experts to do the appointing.
Just a few ideas. Feel free to argue against them.
Isaiah Campbell
A party of like-minded individuals would lead to this party fighting over who they will appoint. I'm sure they'll try and get their own children appointed or even themselves, which I don't find better than a beta son.
Speaking of a beta son, the most important thing here is the heir having good genes, which requires a good king, and a good raising. That's the best thing about a monarchy, when you know who the heir is and they are raised knowing they are going to be Monarch their only interest is to be a good Monarch. Whereas if it is uncertain people will put becoming Monarch above actually being a good Monarch.
Wyatt Smith
>the son might end up being a retarded beta male that no one takes seriously
Not when he is educated his whole life by the best teachers possible. The role of the kind is to be an arbiter for the realm with the best interest of his people in mind.
Kayden Reed
r8
Isaiah Lee
too bright and flamboyant
Christian Nelson
>Get rid of the top crown and banner(s)
>Make the eagle one-headed
>make the crown the eagle wears the actual crown (no need for three/two crowns on the flag)
>have 13 stars on the necklace to symbolise the thirteen original colonies or whatever it is
>have 10 five pointed stars in the jewel to show the 50 states (and one 6 pointed star if there are 51 I always forget)
Isaac Campbell
>Just look at the Hapsburgs
A dynasty that has ruled for several hundred of years? Monarchies tend to have a better track record than other idiologies.
Jackson Price
we was heraldic und shid
Angel Thomas
Nolan Ortiz
Democracy is gay and relies on at least 51% of the population being well educated and correct.
Xavier Carter
Bonjour à toi cher Français !
As-tu de bonnes lectures de Monsieur Maurras à me conseiller ? et où me les procurer ?
Hunter James
Monarchy is gay and reactionary lead by incompetents who never earned the right to rule
Andrew Evans
>reactionary
The default for millennia, democracy is reactionary
>never earned the right to rule
>tricking more retards than the other guy is earning the right to rule
mk
Isaac Hughes
>Being so fucking dense that he thinks im defending democracy
Because you are to retarded let me spell it out for you
Fascism >>>>>>>>>> Democracy > Monarchy >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Communism
Andrew Harris
Maybe you could have avoided this misunderstanding if you posted a fascist leader that wasn't voted into office.
Angel Martinez
>Fascism
Pretty good honestly, I'd consider it equal to Monarchy
>Democracy
Why the fuck would you put this above Monarchy?
>Communism
Placed well.
Jonathan Wood
Reporting in
Isaiah Gonzalez
The best monarch ever. Prove me wrong. Hint you can't.
Jose Scott
>Why the fuck would you put this above Monarchy?
Because it beats
>god told me im the leader goyim
Evan Howard
>You need God for a Monarchy
Google is your friend.
Owen Rivera
>What is educating your children properly
Do you really think a modern day monarchy would function the same as one during the 18 century?
Logan Lewis
The basedest Brazilian to ever live.
Anthony Ross
a big problem w/ monarchy is lack of independence
every adolescent grows up wanting independence from their family. that's what entering adulthood is.
setting up a monarchy is basically preventing society from entering adulthood.
it's stripping society of their ability to be free and independent thinkers
Carson Rodriguez
Are you ignoring every philosopher ever?
Oliver Mitchell
Monarchism is the most natural, and human form of government. Rejecting monarchy is rejecting humanity!
Leo Ramirez
You do realize the only reason the US is not a monarchy is because you had no royal family, right? If you read the founding fathers you'll quickly realize they were not particularly fond of Democracy.
Noah Miller
Most monarchies rule by divine right
Joseph Wright
>not letting niggers, women and poor vote = hating democracy
favelamonkey
Josiah Kelly
>enshrining the pedo elite into law
What is seriously wrong with Europeans?
Joshua Allen
I unironically appreciate the fact that I live in an absolute monarchy. Citizens rally around the king here. Monarchy kept the country united and shielded us from unchecked mass immigration 5th column inside the government.
Aiden Russell
Would that argument be equally applicable to any government, including democratic ones?
Robert Bailey
Hamilton wanted to create a monarchy though?
Angel Rodriguez
Do you have a problem with divine right? Personally I find it necessary because it changes the relationship between ruler and subject. A king does not rule on behalf of the masses but rather he rules by will of the divine. His relationship to the masses is one of responsibility to care for, like a father. You can't have that without someone above.
If anyone is interested Evola wrote an essay on the function of monarchy. Well worth the read.
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Carson Reyes
Most fascist states collapsed within decades.
Lincoln Richardson
Threadly reminder that absolutists are crypto-republicans
Cameron White
Jayden White
>Best monarch
>Wife before country
Top jej
Blake Parker
>Hamilton
Hamilton was a cuck that got BTFO by Burr
>just ignore that part about being invaded by 100 million screaming slavs, its not important
>Do you have a problem with divine right?
its like you don't get the difference between a born leader and someone born to lead
Camden Reed
That's why the state would have to be run by anonymous. Pure collective gestalt.
Jayden Myers
Wilhelm II was completely retarded and incompetent and highlights my point entirely
Jacob Butler
>Make broad and ultimately irrelevant statement about monarchies in an attempt to discredit them
>Do the same for fascism
>Get butthurt
Fascism is just monarchism with some communism mixed in
Jeremiah Lee
>its like you don't get the difference between a born leader and someone born to lead
What are the chances of a person who is born to lead being produced outside a program designed to produce such a person? Why would any country trust the finding of such a person to elections of the most popular or most talented swindler?
Isaac Wright
>le hitler was a socialist fallacy
Name a few good monarchs because im sure i can name thousands of shit ones
Jacob Wright
>What are the chances of a person who is born to lead being produced outside a program designed to produce such a person?
Being born into a royal family doesn't make you a good leader, the romanovs are a good example of this.
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Joseph Thomas
It is no guarantee, you are correct, but the point remains. Why is an election which favors the better speaker, a better program for producing a man who can lead then trying to raise a child from birth to do that function?
Lucas Wood
The flaw with that logic is that there were so few fascist leaders, and tons upon tons of monarchs. However, what we can both agree on is that democracy - within it's lifespan of about a century or two - has spawned out more shit leaders than good ones, which is telling. When there was a good monarch, he was really fucking good. And one of the significant differences between monarchism and democracy is the quality of women leaders. There hasn't been a single good female authority figure in a democratic system, except maybe Margret Thatcher, but she contributed to the EU being what it is today.
Samuel Nelson
The Romanovs were literally okay-tier. What happened was out of their control. I mean, who could've predicted WW1, communism and Rasputin?
Ryan Reed
>Republics don't produce shitty leaders
Mason Lopez
They were incorrigible and they paid the price for it, unfortunately.
Parker Lewis
>The problem is that, while the father might be a great leader, the son might end up being a retarded beta male that no one takes seriously.
Still better than democrats or dictators without God nor Familial lineage to fall back upon.
Even the most retarded of the Hapsburg lineages had their more competent relatives at their backs.
>Says a commoner venerating another commoner who led his nation to ruin
top kek
Brazil was by far better off under the Orleans-Braganza
>Ignoring the fact that nation-states are a non-object in a society without human rights
If you, as an individual, doesn't have the right for representation, only the duty to act against your low-legitimacy monarch, how could your people to begin with?
Levi Rivera
Literally everyone that isn't inbred like Charles XII is a good monarch.
How could they have maintained the system for thousand of years otherwise?
Xavier Richardson
Heil dir im Siegerkranz!
Unironical supporter of a constitutional monarchy here, out head of state is terrible and useless so why not make somethink better with this position
pic related, Georg Friedrich Prinz von Preußen, Head of the House of Hohenzollern and Kaiser-in-being
Alexander Smith
I wish he would have been King and then make peace with Germany and attack the USSR together.. sigh..
Nolan Powell
You must forgive these people. They still believe in the lies of the Enlightenment and think every monarch was out to do nothing but oppress and plunder the citizens. Sadly they have a monarch confused with their own leaders found in democratic republics.
Hoppe is able to demonstrate as much all within the liberal framework. Loot now and loot often.
Carson Morgan
The difference between monarchy and democracy is that the former are much more relatable as decisions often fall upon an individual. Imagine the indecision of Nicholas, who after finally putting Russia's economy on the upswing and recovered somewhat from the failure of the Russo-Japanese war, was again thrust into war and watched as his country collapsed all around him. I can't think of another good example of this happening. Even bad monarchs didn't find their nation within an unrecoverable state by the time of their deaths. But here we had a semi-competent monarch, who walked unto rake after rake. Did you know he was the last king, hell, last ruler of a nation to lead his men personally into battle? I feel sorry for the Romanovs.
Isaac Evans
The only meaningful difference between fascism and monarchism is state control over industry/industries and maybe a war based economy (but that's just a byproduct, not the rule)
Ryan Powell
There was an idea early on in the US that we would refer to God as our king. I think in one of the early unofficial national anthems there was a line saying as much, so it would make to have an extra crown to represent God.
Michael Nguyen
Neat
Ayden Robinson
>The problem is that, while the father might be a great leader, the son might end up being a retarded
Well, lucky for us then that there are several mechanisms to deal with that problem. Either the monarch then steps down, hands the power to regent, or if the king retard is not co-operative enough, he will be removed via force. And if those who just committed the most grievous sin of regicide are not popular enough, then it is their heads that will be on the cutting block. Ultimately, monarchs life is in the hands of the common people.
Eli Ramirez
>those noses