Why is Western Europe not growing? But Eastern Europe is?

Well I am not talking about the balkan nigger but everyone northeast of Hungary up to Estonia has healthy growth wages. Why though is Western Europe basically decreasing. Too much money spent on Mohammeds?

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The Western beta fears the Hungarian bull.

it's easier to have a high growth when you gdp was turned to shit after communism, Germany and France are fine with a small growth. Spain Italy and bongs are fucked tho.

No wonder Orban gets reelected.

much easier to invest in the east

What is happening to Italy and England, though? Economical policies?

BASED BREXIT!!!

EU gibs + low immigration

rapefugees not working but taking welfare i would assume. or an incompetent economic minister.

The truth is that the euro is overvalued for Italy's economy.
It was a mistake adopting it in the first place.

Wages are being depressed by mass migration. Our masters want this.

B-but they said Orbán was destroying Hungary!

This user understands it.

When you unite fundamentally different economies under a single monetary policy and currency policy, the only way for the market to adjust to localized differences is through wage and price fluctuations.

The EU is an anti-worker and anti-consumer policy regime

kek they start in the shitter, of course they can only grow
it doesn't mean these shitholes are a legit alternative to living in a first world country

yet

It's because most east european shitholes still have to develop their economy

this.
>Conservative governments don't understand how integrated economy works.
Hopefully Italy will manage the damage better now that they acknowledged the problem. In UK's case it's just kikes punishing them for brexit. I wish my country had an actual government, that would be able to translate more of the economic growth into wealth.

Have any of you cucks been to Czech Republic or Poland?

I wouldn’t mind living there if I was middle class.

Makes sense to me. A large part of immigrants (in general) do not work. The ones who do work, properly work. Not sure about refugees, I would assume a tiny amount of them need occupations, or are even valid to be employed.

Christianity

you are ok
I hope you have enough water

Prague looks fantastic! I truly hope the best for the Czechs, Poles, and Huns.

It’s not kikes. We knew this would happen. Investors shit their pants every time something goes down. On top of that our retail is dying thanks to the internet mostly.

I would like to have a list of the Good and Bad Eastern European countries. I agree, most of them are underdeveloped (Balkans, Baltics to an extent, far Eastern Europe), but the more Westernized countries in Eastern Europe (CZ, PL, HU, SL, etc) are doing relatively better than the rest. Not sure why, either. Any theories or reasoning?

Brexit is ruining Britain's economy. Hungary elected a retarded government that's ruining their economy. Spain is hurting from their quasi-fascist supression of their best economic region (Catalonia). The liberal parts of Western Europe are doing great.

I hope at least your people bought back all the stocks thst were practically stolen after the Waterloo battle.

Belarus is isolated. Ukraine is currently fighting a war. The succesful states you mentioned are in the EU. In my opinion it is not the EU that got their economy up to speed but the common market. The Balkans on the other hand are unknown to me.

>Why are small shithole cunt growing when pumped full of EU gibs but big nations that must stand on there own don't?
Jesus Christ we learned this in like 8th grade

Us having a common market means they can't grow until we catch up more or less. That is why I understand their frustrations.

Bohemia was the powerhouse of Greater Austria, Poland had their own Commonwealth the size of the entire Western Europe(until they were dismantled, sadly) and Slovenia was an "appendage" of Austria if you will, while we had Br*tislava/Preßburg a "pearl on Danube", all of these western parts of Eastern Europe had high potentials already, sadly communism stunted everything but now after almost 3 decades after communism, the potential is finally showing up, I mean look at our interwar GDP, Czechoslovakia was a very developed Country, only our part was underdeveloped, since 2/3 of our country are mountains and the rest are very fertile fields in the south

because it's easier for poor countries to grow, than for rich countries you fucking retard

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you arent a real country if you dont have islands
get fucked latvia

Ex Ottoman provinces can't grow because of institutionalized corruption. Officials ripping off the population was an Ottoman public policy which survived in communism and still fails to be erradicated to this day.

t. idiot voting for PO
marcelku jak tam zupka?

Do you know how percentage works, right?

Why is op a faggot and why am i not?

True Prague is better then London if you disagree kill yourself

make babies.

(((wages))) are far less important.

look at the below as well

Poland homicide rate 0.67
French homicide rate 1.23
Germany homicide rate 0.88
United Kingdom homicide rate 1.20
Belgium homicide rate 1.85
Finland homicide rate 1.42

>it doesn't mean these shitholes are a legit alternative to living in a first world country

haha, French homicide rate is 2x times bigger than in Poland(per capita)
who’s the shithole now?

Poland homicide rate 0.67
French homicide rate 1.23

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the euro is draining us

Daily reminder that quality of life in London is lower than in Warsaw, UK has higher crime and homicide rate.
London-has 800 victims of knife attack injuries in 2 months

WHOLE Poland-has 700 victims of knife attack injuries in a WHOLE year.

Let this sink in. 38 mln country in Eastern Europe has less knife attacks in a year than London alone in 2 months


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Czechoslovakia before the war was richer than Austria

Your maps shows all of western Europe growing m8...

Maybe because all of our fucking industries are being shipped over to take advantage of your underpaid peons?

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Does this count Estii???

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Latvia has islands google it

>Hungary elected a retarded government that's ruining their economy
>real wage growth is the biggest in Europe
What did he mean by this

Italy should be rich AF I don't comprehend how a country like Italy with all the goods and quality shit they produce can have economic problems

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>Too much money spent on Mohammeds?
Basically. Too much money gets put into "social experiments" while forgetting about technological prowess an progress. Industry has to do most of it's future Investitions by themselves. Social shenanigans are taking up a lot of the money the states spend, so basically "gibs moneyz fo dem programs".
Also no Islam interfering in eastern Europe.

true true, start ups and shit is not enough you gotta fund the shit, give gibs for that instead of for example the eu giving somalia 3,5 billion which they do!!! fucking makes me shiver and quiver in a cold sweat

He's probably literally Ákos Kertész.

Its because western europe already has hit a line in terms of wealth, while eastern europe due to europes money and infrastructure starts to bring their economy up to ours
Why do you think do we spend that much money on countries like poland
Because we want the whole eu to be on a level
A few years ago, eastern europe was bitterly poor, and now they are catching up
In a few years, we will all have a relative equal economy in europe
The european leaders also plan to have a united states of europe then, but im not sure if that will happen

The Euro is too strong. We are a transformation engine, we take raw materials from poor shitholes ad turn them into high quality goods to export.
The price of raw materials isn't the limiting factor, because they're cheap anyway. The limiting factor is how much money outside buyers are willing to spend for our product.
At the moment our products are too expensive to be seriously competitive on the international markets.

A weaker currency would hurt us when buying foreign goods, but it doesn't really matter because the only true excellence products we import are computers. Everything else can easily be produced internally - like it was before the Euro disaster.

Almost nobody would buy a VW Jetta if it costed the equivalent of €30K and a Fiat Tipo still costed €15K, but a ton of Germans would consider buying an Alfa Giulia, because in their eyes it'd be cheap.

Italy always had a good economy, but its just that the south, is like greece, and that drags them down, and england, is because of brexit and too many nig nogs

>the eu giving somalia 3,5 billion which they do!!!
Yeah the EU...
While at it, I forgot to add, that most of the stupid EU regulations also take part in being a problem. When implemented, they cost the state a lot of cash, e.g. the diesel crisis or most prominently, the forced split of refugees amongst member nations. And in the case of Germany, the tax payers suffer the most of all, big companies are being favored by our government, they got their shills everywhere.

doesn't Fiat make a lot of money on lower cost automobiles? You bought up Chrysler I Know. But for real though Italy could potentially be wealthier then Germany if you guys got your shit together. Does the Euro make trade difficult. I am getting real fed up with the EU with the internet privacy bullshit and all the fucktard shit they have coming uppp

Explain America

Richest county on earth growing at 4% maybe 5

>Italy always had a good economy, but its just that the south, is like greece, and that drags them down
That was a manageable problem before the Euro though.
The south was what allowed us to have a weaker currency than Germany in the first place.
The problem is that now we've got all of the drawbacks and none of the benefits.

>doesn't Fiat make a lot of money on lower cost automobiles?
Well that's literally all they make so they better.

Anyway I used the automobile example but it applies to anything. Our precision mechanical industry has nothing to envy to the Germans.

t. dumb ignorant cocksucker white trash

pierdol się smieciu

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Because you have 100´s of millions of people, and country as a home, where a state is bigger than middle europe
Plus a country with many resources, also add the fact that you have no morals because of your jews, which resulted that you lead wars for your personal gain, and influence everything on the globe in order to make money
Also you gave money in 2 world wars, which your allies won, and so you got money and power from that too
Then its not hard to grow
When you lost 2 world wars, and got the shit bombed out of your country, and you live in a tiny ass country, with like no resources
Its not that easy

Yeah you also actually contribute a fuck ton of money actually to the EU, probably will be forced to even more now that the UK is leaving

Jews

im a big miele fan I thought it was Italian for some reason before but it is German, good brand though, really nice vacuum cleaner I have one.

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reveal your flag you trash

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this is now a pole hate thread

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WENN ICH DAS SEH

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Literally a native Pole

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That site has some serious bullshit in it.

>be londoner getvanned, stabbed and blown up regularly
>be torinese get pickpocketed if not careful
>london safer

>be torinese
>oh god summer is hot more news at 11
>be londoner
>rains literally all the time
>london higher climate index

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What is this racist bullshit?! Where is our stat?!

Bogdan don't you have to go milk the goats?

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Ronaldo made the right choice

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polacken CRAVE acceptance and respect from prestigious Westerners, so polacken will twist reality to make the case for their prestige

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Also Detroit is a great place to live apparently, kek.

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It is actually, the suburbs of Detroit are god tier this is probably what is referring to, downtown is also quite nice lots of hipsters gentrifying it

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America's homicide rate is higher than 4 and yet it it's supposed to be the first world country par excellence.

Pic related; Poland yes!

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anyone not blue pilled knows USA is a hybrid of Third and First World.
Poland does have somewhat this as well in Upper Silesia, which is our version of Detroit

>inb4 triggered Germanicucks ree about muh gibs when in reality 70% of it flows back to Germany

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What the fuck dude thats my town i live a half mile from there

I have us residence and lived in michigan and it was one of the nicer suburban towns in metro detroit imo...too high of taxes I have a house a little further more off near Brighton/Milford won't say which :D

yeah that taxes in birmingham are killer but it's like 95% white so it's worth the money
brighton is nice, glad to see we are still getting some white people coming over

The reason there are such bad conditions in certain parts of the U.S. is due to socialist reforms that utterly bankrupt surrounding areas leading to a collective collapse of a said area. Yes, there are nice areas but there are areas that are destroyed due mostly to the people's unwillingness to improve their current situation and/or place of residence.

Well the same goes with France, the very large majority of the crime in concentrated in small areas like Seine-Saint-Denis, and common folks live crime free lives.

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I hear the Czech republic is alright

Nah. Germany gets more immigrants (EU and outside) per capita than you do. Your problem is pisspoor productivity. You only blame the EEs because you're shit.

Daily reminder that GDPpc is total hours worked per annum + productivity per hour. The only reason you are even close to France in GDPpc is because you work many more hours than they do on average (hence your lower productivity).

Based Orbán

lol it's you again.

>Economical

The real truth is that wages in Eastern Europe are still so much further behind Western Europe and they have a lot of catching up to. Poles are still going to the UK to clean toilets so that really makes you think

Never heard of Austrian and Russian Poland ? + they probably don't count East Prussia, Danzig and Silesia as Polish

you are one autistic motherfucker

>Poland does have somewhat this as well in Upper Silesia, which is our version of Detroit

Granted, I've only ever been to Krakow and Warsaw, but I highly doubt that you have something even close to what Detroit is in terms of homicide, crime etc.

Also, given the size of Detroit, wouldn't a better comparison be Lodz? Both are de-industrial cities on the wane. Most people would want to avoid both but if they had to choose, I find it hard to want to live in Detroit unless you were a giganigger.

lol u think cdn wages are positive after adjusting for inflation? i doubt it

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