Mex cartels and Russia? Opium Wars in the 21st century

Some have described connections between the Russian Mafia and Mexican Cartels. It would seem obviously innocuous that one organized crime gang would have interest in dealing with another. Pic related may show ports that RUS is able to access. But after the Soviet collapse, who was left to shift the balance of power in their favor? Conceivably, the new government might have had ties to the Mafia as an extrajudicial arm to make deals and achieve certain mutually beneficial ends. The opium wars give historical precedence to pump massive amounts of drugs across a border to destabilize a society. It seems possible to me that the reason the Cartels have flourished while US/NATO powers could have easily made better efforts to stop the growing menace south of our border, they may not be combating just one entity in this situation. What do you anons think, what have you seen or gathered? Depending on how this thread goes, I may make these threads more regularly to aggregate info that anons have dug up over time.


en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opium_Wars

washingtontimes.com/news/2001/may/28/20010528-023346-7901r/

washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1997/09/29/russian-mob-drug-cartels-joining-forces/b838dca0-5717-4c91-9d07-b798a435544d/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.76e94e61cb6a

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theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/01/wikileaks-cables-russia-mafia-kleptocracy
dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1334865/WikiLeaks-Putin-probably-knew-Alexander-Litvinenko-poisoning.html
rt.com/news/432419-mexico-radioactive-substance-stolen-truck/
express.co.uk/news/uk/475207/Police-did-nothing-to-track-down-victim-of-child-porn-snuff-film/amp
archive.today/HPwqD
brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/02_drug_trafficking_zhang_paper.pdf
bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-22/deadly-chinese-fentanyl-is-creating-a-new-era-of-drug-kingpins
m.theepochtimes.com/china-is-supplying-a-drug-war-against-the-united-states_1915904.html
scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/1996146/china-lair-major-drug-lords-says-philippines-duterte
archive.is/J0kQE
youtube.com/watch?v=8oekSnRNvOo
tucson.com/news/state-and-regional/justice-department-cites-arizona-heroin-opioid-crackdown/article_b1c83d0f-aed3-51f5-bae1-4c916a3a06a8.html
tucson.com/news/local/fentanyl-ingredients-for-mexican-traffickers-run-through-arizona/article_c3e5f10a-7a8a-5400-9ba3-9d3881515cae.html
theguardian.com/business/2016/feb/11/families-of-americans-killed-by-mexican-cartels-sue-hsbc
deceivedworld.blogspot.com/2010/08/william-cooper-ugly-truth-about-adl.html?m=1
twitter.com/NSFWRedditVideo

Are you literally fucking retarded? The cartels are literal CIA black projects.

>This.
If the Russians wanted to do shit they'd invest and stabilize Mexico as a threat to the US. Mexico has as much resources as the US it's just bogged by corruption and cartels. A Russian backed politician with enough Russian backing and agents could clear the streets within a few years. Gear up the economy with major Russian trade relations and be a thorn in the USA's ass literally.

It seems you're literally retarded for asserting this with no evidence.

Fast and Furious was a probe to see where the connections were. CIA may have no idea who or where the organizations are. It would make sense that such a probe would help determine networks of support that they did not prop up. Why are cartel hubs not on the gulf of mexico?

That's why we're here to dig. Are the weapons used by cartels predominately old soviet rifles? What does America gain by fueling their own opium war scenario? Did you even read the links?

>they'd invest and stabilize Mexico as a threat to the US
Lol

Who says they aren't already? Again why we're here to dig, if no one has evidence to submit. This is to get a lay of the land before we determine where to look. You're asserting bullshit.

Russia is doing so inside of BRICS agreements but these are countries with more stable governments. Why would a government need trade relations with an unstable and corrupt federal government in Mexico when it can just set up multinational corporate hubs without having to pay lip service to Mexico and their nonexistant infrastructure?

Why would they clear the streets across an ocean where logisitics would be an immense task while you assume it would be as easy as taking over Ukraine, when you can passively destabilize the region through simple means of support without drawing attention to direct action from US intelligence. Everyone knew it was Russia with their green-men in Ukraine, why would it go unnoticed and not provoke immediate reaction on our continent?

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Mutts are responsibles for the drug wars everybody knows that

(((Russian))) Mafia. What a joke.

gringo pendejo jajaja

And leftist in Latin American are being funded by radical Islam..

theguardian.com/world/2010/dec/01/wikileaks-cables-russia-mafia-kleptocracy

dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1334865/WikiLeaks-Putin-probably-knew-Alexander-Litvinenko-poisoning.html

probably not

It is CIA, you protect the Opium fields in Afghanistan

>blames whitey because his people are too genetically savage to handle their shit.
Pretty standard beaner behavior, here.

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>The only drugs in the world is opium and the CIA has it all in Afghanistan.

I thought you Germans were smarter than that.
Jow Forums really is the dumbest board, isn't it?

The Chinese are flooding the world with synthetic opioides.

Coke will be the only battle field left.

what a timeline
what about us fellow hue?
are our cartelz funded by cia or the ruskies?

Los Zetas has the most territory on the west coast of mexico. While all the retards think everything shady is exclusively the CIA it would be more sensible that they have some involvement, to wrestle some KGB monopoly on South American drug trade.

The CIAids.

Escobar, Noriega and everybody in between is a CIA asset.

Our opium comes from South America

fucking niggers

The CIA has had a presence in central and south america since the Carter administration due to the "commie scare".

yep...pretty fucking sad.

Imagine that Brazil has the cheapest cocaine in the world although we produce less than 4% of the world's cocaine. We are the transit corridor so we much always be kept in check.

Wikileaks even revealed that Temerda is a CIA asset.

*must

Russia is a major producer of snuff films

you're the ones growing the coca not us.

why don't we force all of Latin america to move south of the panama canal?

Thank you for your contribution /s

Thank you for your contribution /genuine
I did not know that about Temerda

That the interventions with the Contras and other groups were CIA footholds was not lost on me, though where those actions have reverberated now I do not know.

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rt.com/news/432419-mexico-radioactive-substance-stolen-truck/

express.co.uk/news/uk/475207/Police-did-nothing-to-track-down-victim-of-child-porn-snuff-film/amp

I am on mobile can you archive this

Obama’s “Fast and Furious” was about making sure things would go where they needed to be, this didn’t just include only guns. People, chemical weapons, biological weapons, US military hardware/intel and nuclear materials/weapons were also part of “Fast and Furious”.

Drug Cartels(some of them anyways) have W.M.D’s and have or can build Dirty Bombs(this is the reason why radioactive materials have been being stolen in Mexico and South America over the last several years). These Cartel W.M.D’s/Dirty Bombs are used to threaten the Mexican Government(which can be argued are the Cartels or that the Cartels are a extension of) with an attack on Mexico City and threaten primarily the southern US major cities(located in Texas, Nevada, Arizona and California) with an attack because many Border Patrol/DHS/ICE are threatened/told/payrolled/corrupted to ”look the other way or else” by the Cartels making the entire US a target due to Sanctuary Cities.

Since the Cartels are very good at getting things to other groups(as seen in ISIS’s Bataclan attack which used F&F guns) it can be assumed that US/EU Islamic groups and US/EU leftist groups now also have these other weapons. This makes the Cartels a far bigger threat then ISIS. Mass Graves of US citizens kill by the Cartels now exist around the country.

The amount of dangerous shit coming across the border from both sides is unacceptable and the US Public(and Congress) have no idea of the severity of this security threat. That needs to change.

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Opium War General

yea he sure glows in the dark

archive.today/HPwqD

These days they operate as NGOs. Many of them were distributing signs in english during the impeachment drive of our last president.

Lots of ex-military dudes form the USA and Isreal operate churches

I went to Uni with his daughter.
Even she hates her fucking dad. She is a giant man looking girl who would party like an animal.

>(((Washington Times)))
>(((Washington Post)))
>Muh Russia
ok.

thanks...

what happened to the paramilitarios?

thats gold user, you shoukd fuck her a post it here kek
you know... for the empire

So, in Campeche, PRI is trying to take a mayor seat by cheating after stalling a recount that they, themselves, forced into the INE by bringing outsiders from "Ejidos" into the city (literal US libtard's whole plattaform) and put it in on check.
No one is happy.

>no evidence
CIA connections with the cartels down south have long been known about. The CIA even brags about it. Don't even need to post evidence, just DIY.

i think russians probably help them smuggle stuff.

>Did you even read the links?
Also, CIA have people in the Washington Times and Washington Post.

>What does America gain by fueling their own opium war scenario?
The CIA stands to get billions in revenue.

>Are the weapons used by cartels predominately old soviet rifles?
Because it would look a little too obvious if Cartels were using US gear.

What's with all the baseless Russia speculation in here?
Hezbollah literally is working with the cartels and no one has mentioned it.

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Good lord. That would certainly allow any intervention if the pretext hitting the headlines is "Drug cartels have nuclear weapons"

More info on these NGO's and churches?
Do they extend operations to mexico and columbia?

retard

You seem to have a long history of stupid parties that have hardly any consideration to represent their people. I don't see the connection here though

>the CIA cares about revenue
>if the cartels carry M16's it must be Russians
Kill all memeflaggots

That's why we're here. Who is supporting the cartels is of less significance than the fact that this may be a 21st century iteration of the opium wars. This thread is to get the ball rolling and consider for once the its not La CIA

>the CIA doesn't care about revenue
>the CIA isn't a group of people
>people don't care about revenue

You are retarded. Or a jew.

the funny thing is that she used her mother's name...always had a body guard following her. Very strange person, always drunk or high.

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I'm sure their need for money to make ends meet is putting their desire for power and domination on backburner.

Look up the name Haroldo Rahm
he operates a church in Sao Paulo state that helps drug addicts.

He is ex-US military.
He is a "pastor" although he is Jewish LOL

>consider for once the its not La CIA
user, the sources you are citing are the washington times and the washington post. Operation Mocking Bird, which isn't even a conspiracy theory, deeply suggests that CIA elements exist within these news agencies. You're saying it's not the CIA... based on what is likely being said by the CIA. Good for you, kiddo.

I always found it hilarious how unaware ameriniggers are of how the only difference between what the CIA has done to Latin America is nothing compared to what the likes have done to them.

Faulty genes, amirite

>make ends meet
>Running a global network of drug distribution to simply "make ends meet."

Hahahaha.

I'm aware of mockingbird. Get your Times right. It was Time and the new york Times. Get the fuck out of my thread you brainlet.

>not getting it
Please stop posting, I'm embarrassed for you

Daily reminder that China is the BIGGEST NARCO STATE on the planet. The Chink drug cartel is BIGGER than mexican, afghan, and south american drug cartels COMBINED.
China is the SOURCE of heroin, fent, meth, mdma and precursors of cocaine. The dirty money from illicit drug trade is laundered into acquiring western businesses, corporations, properties, and is responsible for creating housing bubbles throughout the West.

Chinks turned mexico into a narco state during 2000s, coinciding with china entering WTO.

deal with the chink/mestizo/shitskin problem and you solve the drug, housing, white genocide and economic crisis.

brookings.edu/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/02_drug_trafficking_zhang_paper.pdf

bloomberg.com/news/features/2018-05-22/deadly-chinese-fentanyl-is-creating-a-new-era-of-drug-kingpins

m.theepochtimes.com/china-is-supplying-a-drug-war-against-the-united-states_1915904.html

>China as world's largest Fent, Opium and Heroin producer, that dump there products on Capitalist market.
scmp.com/news/asia/southeast-asia/article/1996146/china-lair-major-drug-lords-says-philippines-duterte

the-china-drug-connection/
archive.is/J0kQE

youtube.com/watch?v=8oekSnRNvOo

Turn the border with Mexico into a DMZ

Thank you, I will pore over these. They were not off the suspect list, however their drugs seem produced. As the image above implies, it seems there could be a separate system of support to encourage manufacturing here on the Americas.

>deal with the chink/mestizo/shitskin problem and you solve the drug, housing, white genocide and economic crisis.

This is the hope

>I'm aware of mockingbird. Get your Times right. It was Time and the new york Times. Get the fuck out of my thread you brainlet.
The think the CIA ever stopped infiltrating agencies? C'mon man. The suggestion is what matters. The fact that they were infiltrating any of them means they may have very well infiltrated most of them. Also... a washington news agency? Yeah, I'm sure they skipped over that one lol.

>Please stop posting, I'm embarrassed for you
lol, what am I not getting, Juden? You think running a global drug empire generates enough money to simply make ends meet? I thought jews were supposed to be smarter than this.

>t. Mexican Intellectual

user, the krauts and the Japanese pulled that shit out during WWII. There was a surge in drug use by the end of the 30's in the US; the Chinese opened the opium trade and the Mexicans secured the routes and the smuggling. Japanese and kraut intelligence managed to pump a lot of quality junk into the US this way.

We are in the middle of Opium War III: Chinaman's Revenge

Interesting. Do you have an article/affair name as a starting point for me to look into?

Fucking chinks isn't there anything they won't ruin?

>Age of consent 12
Why is that places where having sex with little girls is legal there is also high amount of conflict, is there a correlation?

everyone works with the cartels, even western governments.

...

Yeah hes just another ignorant beaner or sudaka, they always came with this crazy ideas, its like saying guerrillas were founded by the CIA to destroy governments ... IMPOSSIBLE!!!!

i caught this. breitbart shit the bed on writing this. Totally sensationalized but couldn't glean anything useful anyways

when we're told that 'Russian Collusion' was actually (((Russian Collusion))), should we assume the same about the 'Russian Mafia' colluding with Mexican drug cartels?

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Juan Alberto Cedillo wrote a good book about that but I couldn't find an English translation. Sorry, user. Look for Operation Pastorius; flooding the US with drugs and sabotaging the US in general.

Should we? Shouldn't assume anything until more pieces are found. But 'Russian Collusion' was obviously (((Russian Collusion))) when it became media canon. Nobody is discussing or airing 'Russian Mafia.'

Read the rest of the thread. The point is Eastern powers have motive and means to engage in a quasi opium war. The orthodoxy on Jow Forums assumes all (key word, all) cartels are leftovers from Domino Theory which is just a lazy assumption

Will do thank you

When you say 'Russian Mafia' what you mean is (((Russian Mafia))).

Well not (((Russian Mafia))) but [[[Russian Mafia]]] if that makes sense.

What do you think?

Again, everyone deals with the cartels. And since the Russian mafia is so efficient everyone has to deal with them. If you ask me, every western government is involved in this; there are more ways to hurt the US without being hostile. I bet my ass krauts are still at it, add the chinks and Israel to that... Intelligence services need to pay up, and they need to make money. Kinda like Iran-Contra; if you want shit done, you have to get out of budget money somewhere.

>there are more ways to hurt the US without being hostile. I bet my ass krauts are still at it, add the chinks and Israel to that..
I would agree. I'd like to seek more definitive proof, and get a better sense of the context. Has AMLO decided to make a fence because of increased production? If so, why did production and increase and by whom; is it part of a new larger push now that they feel destabilization can happen? These things.

I will return to the thread later, but have to leave for a bit. Please if anyone happens by it leave any articles that would be worth reading. I will likely compile them into a new thread more regularly

there is a difference however, when it comes to "allies". Russia and China are not trusted like Israel. There are no Chinese nor Russians within all factions of education, media, government all the way up to the SCOTUS; but Israeli loyalists, Jews, crypto Jews, Sayanim, and their loyal Shabbos abound, actually running these entities. So yeah, you're correct that the US has a lot of enemies; some rightly so, but none of them are on the same level as a group that's been at subversion, deceit, blackmail, murder, etc ... for several 1000-years

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>I will likely compile them into a new thread more regularly

Do it, and you will find info comes to you pretty fast here.

should i start hiding IP too?

Like Ukraine desu

see

Fuck this shit

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I dont, but it couldn't hurt.

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blame whitey when you refuse to blame your third world shit hole selves.

Apparently you are going to see Syrian style war rigs running the US/Mexico border in the future.

whats this chart from?

Assuming the US military doesn't wipe out the cartels the status quo will likely be maintained. This could mean the drugs play into the Russian destabilization tactics that started in the cold war. Yuri Bezmenov and on Mihai Pacepa are two ex KGB people to read up on for that.

The interesting question is what happens following an event which severely weakens the military like a civil war. At that point the cartels could ally with a host of groups, probably Russia, for an invasion. It'd be a unique opportunity to launch such an invasion as its the scenario that could be feasible.

Drugs also help any group that wants a weakened US population which is a lot more than just Russia. Venezuelan islamists for instance.

The necessary solution for fighting back against all of those groups is to close the border and violently destroy the cartels.

tucson.com/news/state-and-regional/justice-department-cites-arizona-heroin-opioid-crackdown/article_b1c83d0f-aed3-51f5-bae1-4c916a3a06a8.html

tucson.com/news/local/fentanyl-ingredients-for-mexican-traffickers-run-through-arizona/article_c3e5f10a-7a8a-5400-9ba3-9d3881515cae.html

Ingredients to make 30 million deadly doses of fentanyl were seized in Southern Arizona after being mailed from China, two federal investigations show.

Fentanyl entering the United States from Mexico is a known problem, but investigators working in Tucson and Nogales seized on its way to Mexico enough ingredients to make more than $600 million worth of the deadly opioid.

Drug traffickers often mail ingredients for fentanyl to the United States, an they are then taken across the border to be turned into fentanyl, authorities said. The nearly 130 pounds of 4-ANPP, which is a controlled substance that is synthesized through a chemical reaction to make fentanyl, were mailed from China, the largest supplier of fentanyl and its ingredients to the United States

theguardian.com/business/2016/feb/11/families-of-americans-killed-by-mexican-cartels-sue-hsbc


You do the math. HSBC is in this to the brim. Look at william coopers series on the ADL and you will see that it has been this way for decades.

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And check those Tucson articles, it all goes through mccainistan.

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Henry Carey, one of the architects of Abraham Lincoln's Reconstruction Program and a leading proponent of the American System of Political Economy, warned about Britain's opium war against China and India in his 1853 book, "The Slave Trade: Domestic and Foreign". Get the book and read it.

He described the trade in, quote:

"...that pernicious drug opium..."

as, quote:

"...one of perfect free trade...."

Defeated in the secessionists' insurrectionist plot, Britain and its fifth column of agents in both the North and the South would eventually regroup around a strategy for running an opium war against the United States.

As the reader will learn in later chapters, the B'nai B'rith and its Anti-Defamation League's Secret Lodge played a central role in the drugging of America.

deceivedworld.blogspot.com/2010/08/william-cooper-ugly-truth-about-adl.html?m=1


Is it a coincidence that Trump is implementing the "American system" of economics?

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