not bitching, honestly curious what the fuck is wrong with society where I am such a dinosaur fuckup. don't do drugs, college educated, not edgy. literally know how to build houses, all the trades, science education. actually am just an informed normie. mfw we are actually 30yr old boomers. left wins. fuck.
where were you when you realized all the entrepreneurial prospects leave you as a soulless psychopath? turned 8k to 800k in two years with private business, but gave it up on principal. how fucked am I?
literally have nothing to brag about. i'm a failure all around. i'll admit it readily.
Wyatt Martin
>i made lots of money with my small business but i gave it up because of my high ideals >not trying to brag or anything lol
Eli Watson
yeah, when this is in play, i'll consider maxing out credit, traveling the world, humanitarian ngo's, subversive actions, etc. you go ahead and give up.
Jack Price
>turned 8k to 800k in two years with private business, but gave it up on principal Based fucking enlightened aristocrat Plato wrote about. You fucking happy now OP? You giant faggot.
was this supposed to be properly posted in Jow Forums and then Op goofed?
Oliver Evans
meh. i'll clarify - 800k in sales. was literally a normal blue collar startup. wasn't for me, as I found it soul crushingly depressing. again - this should be a normal everyday thing in the US, imo. I have a philosophically problem with where this sort of position leads to in current corporate america.
Zachary Cooper
nah man. i'm sad he had nothing more to offer past the republic. feels bad man.
Eli Richardson
>soulless psychopath theres a reason rich people suddenly find god or a cult
best advice throw away your principle and turn psychopathy to sociopathy
Christopher Campbell
you’re a pussy and can’t get it up. ask yourself how you could even cram your limp salami into some roastie’s flappy old beef tent, let alone why she would want you to try. all the other shit you talk about in your OP doesn’t matter unless you turn that 800k into 800MM
Jack Adams
I consider this a political question - do everything prim and proper and still get fucked. why?
screwing everyone else seems to be the direction society/leadership takes when answering this question, but I fundamentally reject this notion.
Jackson Cox
you'll soon find out that theres not a lot you can actually do with money
Jacob Richardson
fuck off, kikes
Ayden Wright
What give you excitement and drive OP?
Brody Torres
>gave it up on principal >how fucked am I? principal informed by what? you haven't described the basis of your moral tent-post, for lack of better words. as such you have not asked a question so much as you've made a statement.
it seems to me you're beginning to see the flaws within the modern roman social and economic system, which is the first step. ignore anything you're told, hold those beliefs close and start researching the parts you may be misunderstanding on your own, namely; political, religious.
and there you go, on to the political path. it's a four part system with one simple truth behind it. just know if you take the white pill, you'll truly be one in a thousand
Jose Cruz
no, no, i disagree, there’s a ton of shit you can do with money that you can’t do without. the question is, is it ever long enough to scratch that itch off your back. the answer to that, i think, is no.
yanno, standard american fare. raised on a farm. homestead. growing shit. making things out of wood and metal. My ideal is research, but at the moment, dipping my toe back in school has just confirmed the education/research forum has quickly degraded since my bachelors 7 years ago. Amazing how the common fucking knowledge of Americans has degraded within a single generation.
Anthony Torres
invest your money faggot
Levi Edwards
i probably won’t be able to watch a video on my phone until tomorrow, so i’m not sure if you’ll ever hear my answer or not
Noah Morales
so basically your unhappy with your life? maybe you need to really think about what it is that you want and reform your goals?
Elijah Wright
i don't reject the roman social and economic system, but rather reject society's rejection instead of improvement.
I can't quote the greek philosopher at the moment - but basically the guidelines on his tombstone are:
freedom from the market
food with friends and family
self-sufficiency on your own property
Ryder Anderson
So run for office somewhere. help the Jow Forums movement.
Hunter Butler
it's just lynard skynard simple man. basic advice.
not unhappy with my life; i'm unhappy that my seemingly simple goals are near impossible to attain for the average person; save from enter psychopathy and/or screwing over your fellow man. Is humanitarianism truly dead? I'm talking within your small social network; your neighbors, your community.
I'd like to think if I have attained my goals, that I would be willing to mentor/guide or offer help to those within my community who want the same thing. All I've find is someone looking for cheap labor...
Juan Evans
yeah, this is an option. farmer called to service is certainly something I and everyone should consider. This move is immature in my current position. You have to lead by example. Im desperately trying to find how to get there, without losing essential morals.
Nathaniel Jackson
you can read that song two ways. 1. follow this advice or you’re being jewed 2. if you follow this advice you’re being jewed both interpretations seem equally compelling to me, why should i choose one over the other?
Benjamin Torres
>i don't reject the roman social and economic system if you don't understand how the political and religious components fit into it, then you don't understand the system as a whole. in other words, without being patronizing, you have not made an informed decision
you can't fully embrace or reject something you don't completely understand. which to my original point, I believe is the basis of your confusion
>cheap labor... why not free labor? every cost is a deceit
let's define terms - I agree with what the roman social/economic system is based upon, pkings, etc. I don't consider your statement patronizing. I welcome any criticism.
>>free labor
fine with me.
what, is this not something fundamental? There's something to be said about even questioning this song, and the degree at which we fear our own self-actualization. The jq question is fine and all, but simplicity and independence from others is something that I don't consider problematic, regardless of worldview.
I'd say find a church where you really feel like you're part of community there. Devote some time to helping others, either by starting your own family or mentoring, volunteering, etc. Travel helps people gain a new perspective too, and may help find a innie qt3.14
Nicholas Taylor
Well that you're aware of it may well be enough. But what are you bitching about? Did you provide a product or service at market value that people were willing to pay for? Did they feel they got their money's worth? And you made a profit? WTF are you on about?
Let me get in the position to build one, and I'll do it. at least 'till someone supplies a pratt&whitney that's not 1.5mil...yeah.
Jose Stewart
eh, fed contracts. it was a little more philosophically complicated than blue collar. selling x widget for y (200% surplus, heh, sometimes 2k and hour prices) widget prices is a serious problem. the fact that you can cowboy at the federal level has left me ruined as far as state/federal level business is concerned.
Noah Martinez
>I agree with what the roman social/economic system is based upon at face value as it was presented to you and taught to you (and your parents, and theirs), most all of us do. the key is those are only parts, not the whole
in an effort to stimulate thought, read the lyrics of popular music for example. they are a part of the same system, the part of it you don't understand. the part of it if you were never taught to understand.
don't let anything you've ever been taught inform your decision. just read the words as they appear, like poetry
after reading the lyrics and from that perspective, it's clearly a declaration, followed by a question. who _are_ you? it's that question you need to answer.
self-autonomy and occam's razor are all that apply
Austin Brown
for sake of conversation:
I get the autonomy. I do. It's up to us all to self-identify. What I'm questioning is why in the fuck does society not embrace this? Why is this sort of thing not at the forefront of humanity - and how does the common man see this as an inalienable truth? I see the other side, the obvious obstruction from those seeking to suppress humanity's ability.
Adam Reyes
because we're reared in lies from birth. as were our parents, and their parents. did you also notice in that song the part that said: I'm what's left, I'm what's right, I'm the enemy?
in your OP you identified the left as the enemy. begin to question things. for example, what if they were both the enemy?
what do the obelisk at st peters basilica, the wash monument, egypt, david rockefeller's (richest man to ever live) grave and the 4th of july all have in common? it's not a trick question.
why did kanye west have a breakdown on stage, yelling that facebook lied to you, google lied to you and told you that he could lose his standing; his life - for talking to you that way - only to show up a week later with the president? it's related to the last question i asked and again, these are NOT trick questions.
there are only two choices in life. the rest are falsehoods and deceit. make of that information what you will
Owen Hughes
adding to that - what if the truth was so simple they hide it in plain sight? using the foo fighers lyrics example - go back before that band; they tell you: youtube.com/watch?v=i5LxJ3ZoS9E
also, i love how threads that have REAL information meet utter silence. like i said, 1 in 1000. 0 in 1000 for women, or so i've read
Charles Wright
not your personal shrink sage
Gavin Hall
iirc the song is about a mom trying to protect her son. it can be universalized for Jow Forums by reframing into a who’s jewing who context, but the underlying struggle of home and adventure has been written about since people started writing. I think the whole point is that even if the mom’s advice is right in the long run, the kid still has to go out and sow his wild oats anyway. Most “advice from experience” is like that. Almost everyone knows deep down that it’s right, even when they’re inexperienced, but it doesn’t affect most people’s actions until they burn off a lot of youthful energy first.